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Brand Spanking new ***OFFICIAL*** Ohio State Buckeyes thread! (2 Viewers)

BTW- Here's a list of all the prospects that were at the game today. Even though Harrison wasn't there, hopefully he was paying attention...

Edit- well that looks like crap. Here's the link: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2018/11/99367/the-hurry-up-a-final-look-at-this-weekends-official-visits-buckeyes-welcome-prospects-to-practice-and-the 

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	PLAYER                  CLASS      SCHOOL           HT.     WT.       POSITION      STAR RATING
	CAVON BUTLER (UK COMMIT)2019TOLEDO WHITMER (TOLEDO, OH)6-3285DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★
	D'VON ELLIES2019MCDONOGH SCHOOL (OWINGS MILLS, MD)6-3280DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★
	JARED HARRISON-HUNTE2019CHRIST THE KING REGIONAL (MIDDLE VILLAGE, NY)6-4286DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★
	BRYSON SHAW (OSU COMMIT)2019THE BULLIS SCHOOL (POTOMAC, MD)6-2175SAFETY★★★
	RENARDO GREEN (FSU COMMIT)2019WEKIVA (APOPKA, FL)5-11164CORNERBACK★★★
	STEELE CHAMBERS (OSU COMMIT)2019BLESSED TRINITY CATHOLIC (ROSWELL, GA)6-2215RUNNING BACK★★★★
	DOUG NESTER (OSU COMMIT)2019SPRING VALLEY (HUNTINGTON, WV)6-7314GUARD★★★★
	NOAH POTTER (OSU COMMIT)2019MENTOR (MENTOR, OH)6-6250DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	CADE STOVER (OSU COMMIT)2019LEXINGTON (MANSFIELD, OH)6-5235LINEBACKER★★★★
	CRAIG YOUNG (OSU COMMIT)2019WAYNE (FORT WAYNE, IN)6-4200ATHLETE★★★
	JACK MILLER (OSU COMMIT)2020CHAPARRAL (SCOTTSDALE, AZ)6-4210QUARTERBACK★★★★
	PARIS JOHNSON (OSU COMMIT)2020ST. XAVIER (CINCINNATI, OH)6-7285OFFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★★
	JAKE WRAY (OSU COMMIT)2020MARIETTA (MARIETTA, GA)6-5290OFFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★
	LEJOND CAVAZOS (OSU COMMIT)2020IMG ACADEMY (BRADENTON, FL)6-0186SAFETY★★★★
	TOMMY EICHENBERG2019ST. IGNATIUS (CLEVELAND, OH)6-3225LINEBACKER★★★★
	JESTIN JACOBS (IOWA COMMIT)2019NORTHMONT (CLAYTON, OH)6-3210LINEBACKER★★★★
	MICHAEL O'SHAUGHNESSY2019NEW ALBANY (NEW ALBANY, OH)6-4200PUNTERN/A
	MJ DEVONSHIRE2019ALIQUIPPA (ALIQUIPPA, PA)5-11170CORNERBACK★★★
	FRED DAVIS II2020TRINITY CHRISTIAN (JACKSONVILLE, FL)6-1177CORNERBACK★★★★★
	DANE MIDDLEBROOK2020BROWNSBURG (BROWNSBURG, IN)6-1310DEFENSIVE TACKLEN/A
	DEAMONTE TRAYANUM2020ARCHBISHOP HOBAN (AKRON, OH)5-11215RUNNING BACK★★★★
	MICHAEL DRENNEN2020DUBLIN COFFMAN (DUBLIN, OH)5-11190ALL-PURPOSE BACK★★★★
	JUTAHN MCCLAIN2020FAIRFIELD (FAIRFIELD, OH)5-10180ALL-PURPOSE BACK★★★
	RAKIM JARRETT2020ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE (WASHINGTON DC)6-0182WIDE RECEIVER★★★★
	DEVELL WASHINGTON2020BAY CITY CENTRAL (BAY CITY, MI)6-4200WIDE RECEIVER★★★
	MALIQ CARR2020OAK PARK (OAK PARK, MI)6-6215WIDE RECEIVER★★★
	IAN STEWART2020OSCAR A CARLSON (ROCKWOOD, MI)6-3200WIDE RECEIVER★★★
	GEIREAN HATCHETT2020FERNDALE (FERNDALE, WA)6-5275GUARD★★★★
	JAKOB JAMES2020ELDER (CINCINNATI, OH)6-5260OFFENSIVE TACKLE★★★
	DALLAS FINCHER2020EAST KENTWOOD (GRAND RAPIDS, MI)6-4260GUARD★★★
	TRE WILLIAMS2020ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE (WASHINGTON DC)6-2308DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★
	JACOLBE COWAN2020PROVIDENCE DAY SCHOOL (CHARLOTTE, NC)6-5265DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	DARRION HENRY2020PRINCETON (CINCINNATI, OH)6-6260DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	JAHEIM THOMAS2020PRINCETON (CINCINNATI, OH)6-5218LINEBACKER ★★★★
	MEKHAIL SHERMAN2020ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE (WASHINGTON DC)6-3234LINEBACKER★★★★★
	BRIAN BRANCH2020SANDY CREEK (TYRONE, GA)6-0175SAFETYN/A
	ELIJAH EBERHARDT2020PRINCETON (CINCINNATI, OH)6-1175CORNERBACK★★★
	SAMMY ANDERSON2020TROTWOOD-MADISON (DAYTON, OH)6-2170CORNERBACK★★★
	DONOVAN EDWARDS2021WEST BLOOMFIELD (WEST BLOOMFIELD, OH)5-11190RUNNING BACK★★★★
	A.J. KIRK2021DUBLIN COFFMAN (COLUMBUS, OH)6-0200SAFETY★★★★
	DAMON PAYNE2021BELLEVILLE (BELLEVILLE, MI)6-4255GUARD★★★★
	JAYDEN THOMAS2021PACE ACADEMY (ATLANTA, GA)6-2185WIDE RECEIVERN/A
	LORENZO STYLES2021PICKERINGTON CENTRAL (PICKERINGTON, OH)6-1170WIDE RECEIVERN/A
	WYATT MILLUM2021SPRING VALLEY (HUNTINGTON, WV)6-7245OFFENSIVE TACKLEN/A
	JACK SAWYER2021PICKERINGTON NORTH (PICKERINGTON, OH)6-5219DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	CHASE HARRISON2022CENTERVILLE (DAYTON, OH)6-2185QUARTERBACKN/A
 
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BTW- Here's a list of all the prospects that were at the game today. Even though Harrison wasn't there, hopefully he was paying attention...

Edit- well that looks like crap. Here's the link: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2018/11/99367/the-hurry-up-a-final-look-at-this-weekends-official-visits-buckeyes-welcome-prospects-to-practice-and-the 

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	PLAYER                  CLASS      SCHOOL           HT.     WT.       POSITION      STAR RATING
	CAVON BUTLER (UK COMMIT)2019TOLEDO WHITMER (TOLEDO, OH)6-3285DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★
	D'VON ELLIES2019MCDONOGH SCHOOL (OWINGS MILLS, MD)6-3280DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★
	JARED HARRISON-HUNTE2019CHRIST THE KING REGIONAL (MIDDLE VILLAGE, NY)6-4286DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★
	BRYSON SHAW (OSU COMMIT)2019THE BULLIS SCHOOL (POTOMAC, MD)6-2175SAFETY★★★
	RENARDO GREEN (FSU COMMIT)2019WEKIVA (APOPKA, FL)5-11164CORNERBACK★★★
	STEELE CHAMBERS (OSU COMMIT)2019BLESSED TRINITY CATHOLIC (ROSWELL, GA)6-2215RUNNING BACK★★★★
	DOUG NESTER (OSU COMMIT)2019SPRING VALLEY (HUNTINGTON, WV)6-7314GUARD★★★★
	NOAH POTTER (OSU COMMIT)2019MENTOR (MENTOR, OH)6-6250DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	CADE STOVER (OSU COMMIT)2019LEXINGTON (MANSFIELD, OH)6-5235LINEBACKER★★★★
	CRAIG YOUNG (OSU COMMIT)2019WAYNE (FORT WAYNE, IN)6-4200ATHLETE★★★
	JACK MILLER (OSU COMMIT)2020CHAPARRAL (SCOTTSDALE, AZ)6-4210QUARTERBACK★★★★
	PARIS JOHNSON (OSU COMMIT)2020ST. XAVIER (CINCINNATI, OH)6-7285OFFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★★
	JAKE WRAY (OSU COMMIT)2020MARIETTA (MARIETTA, GA)6-5290OFFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★
	LEJOND CAVAZOS (OSU COMMIT)2020IMG ACADEMY (BRADENTON, FL)6-0186SAFETY★★★★
	TOMMY EICHENBERG2019ST. IGNATIUS (CLEVELAND, OH)6-3225LINEBACKER★★★★
	JESTIN JACOBS (IOWA COMMIT)2019NORTHMONT (CLAYTON, OH)6-3210LINEBACKER★★★★
	MICHAEL O'SHAUGHNESSY2019NEW ALBANY (NEW ALBANY, OH)6-4200PUNTERN/A
	MJ DEVONSHIRE2019ALIQUIPPA (ALIQUIPPA, PA)5-11170CORNERBACK★★★
	FRED DAVIS II2020TRINITY CHRISTIAN (JACKSONVILLE, FL)6-1177CORNERBACK★★★★★
	DANE MIDDLEBROOK2020BROWNSBURG (BROWNSBURG, IN)6-1310DEFENSIVE TACKLEN/A
	DEAMONTE TRAYANUM2020ARCHBISHOP HOBAN (AKRON, OH)5-11215RUNNING BACK★★★★
	MICHAEL DRENNEN2020DUBLIN COFFMAN (DUBLIN, OH)5-11190ALL-PURPOSE BACK★★★★
	JUTAHN MCCLAIN2020FAIRFIELD (FAIRFIELD, OH)5-10180ALL-PURPOSE BACK★★★
	RAKIM JARRETT2020ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE (WASHINGTON DC)6-0182WIDE RECEIVER★★★★
	DEVELL WASHINGTON2020BAY CITY CENTRAL (BAY CITY, MI)6-4200WIDE RECEIVER★★★
	MALIQ CARR2020OAK PARK (OAK PARK, MI)6-6215WIDE RECEIVER★★★
	IAN STEWART2020OSCAR A CARLSON (ROCKWOOD, MI)6-3200WIDE RECEIVER★★★
	GEIREAN HATCHETT2020FERNDALE (FERNDALE, WA)6-5275GUARD★★★★
	JAKOB JAMES2020ELDER (CINCINNATI, OH)6-5260OFFENSIVE TACKLE★★★
	DALLAS FINCHER2020EAST KENTWOOD (GRAND RAPIDS, MI)6-4260GUARD★★★
	TRE WILLIAMS2020ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE (WASHINGTON DC)6-2308DEFENSIVE TACKLE★★★★
	JACOLBE COWAN2020PROVIDENCE DAY SCHOOL (CHARLOTTE, NC)6-5265DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	DARRION HENRY2020PRINCETON (CINCINNATI, OH)6-6260DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	JAHEIM THOMAS2020PRINCETON (CINCINNATI, OH)6-5218LINEBACKER ★★★★
	MEKHAIL SHERMAN2020ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE (WASHINGTON DC)6-3234LINEBACKER★★★★★
	BRIAN BRANCH2020SANDY CREEK (TYRONE, GA)6-0175SAFETYN/A
	ELIJAH EBERHARDT2020PRINCETON (CINCINNATI, OH)6-1175CORNERBACK★★★
	SAMMY ANDERSON2020TROTWOOD-MADISON (DAYTON, OH)6-2170CORNERBACK★★★
	DONOVAN EDWARDS2021WEST BLOOMFIELD (WEST BLOOMFIELD, OH)5-11190RUNNING BACK★★★★
	A.J. KIRK2021DUBLIN COFFMAN (COLUMBUS, OH)6-0200SAFETY★★★★
	DAMON PAYNE2021BELLEVILLE (BELLEVILLE, MI)6-4255GUARD★★★★
	JAYDEN THOMAS2021PACE ACADEMY (ATLANTA, GA)6-2185WIDE RECEIVERN/A
	LORENZO STYLES2021PICKERINGTON CENTRAL (PICKERINGTON, OH)6-1170WIDE RECEIVERN/A
	WYATT MILLUM2021SPRING VALLEY (HUNTINGTON, WV)6-7245OFFENSIVE TACKLEN/A
	JACK SAWYER2021PICKERINGTON NORTH (PICKERINGTON, OH)6-5219DEFENSIVE END★★★★
	CHASE HARRISON2022CENTERVILLE (DAYTON, OH)6-2185QUARTERBACKN/A
However, Harrison DID show up and visit and stuff on campus Wednesday. . .  You gotta think this game made a difference.

 
Color me shocked. But seriously, how is/was that UM defense ranked #1? Oof.
Winovich, Gary, and Bush. Those three came into the game hobbled, were wounded during, and knocked out - respectively. Those were the corner stones. Without them - just guys. And even with them Indiana laid the blue print last week. You guys just expanded on it. It wasnt going well obviously, but it didnt get out of hand until that Gary-Bush double whammy. 

 
Penn St got their in-home visit with Zach Harrison today.  Xichigan is tomorrow.  Meyer and the Bucks get the last visit.  That sounds better than it has been going.

 
I am up in the air on what I want to happen with the Bucks and their bowl.  You always love your team to make the playoffs, and it is not like the Big12 has done anything in their attempts.  However, if they go to the Rose Bowl, I have the green light from the wife to get tickets for us to see the parade and game, so that would be cool.  And they do well beating up on PAC12 teams.

 
I'm feeling the same.  If they make the CFP, great.  If not, I'm okay with that too.  The team we saw play against TTUN isn't the same team we've been watching all season.  If they played that way all year, they would be in the mix for the CFP and controlling their own destiny (if not already have their ticket punched).  If they get in, I don't see them getting past Alabama or Clemson.  Maybe ND, but who knows.  I wouldn't mind seeing OSU vs OK, that would be a good game.  But overall, I'm not sold they have played well enough to get a spot in the CFP.  :shrug:

 
I would prefer to sit this CFP out, which is what I am anticipating. Although we looked good on Saturday, we have not looked good for most of the year. I would be happy with the Rose Bowl. 

If by chance we make the playoffs, then I hope they shock me and the world but I’m not betting on them!

 
I would prefer to sit this CFP out, which is what I am anticipating. Although we looked good on Saturday, we have not looked good for most of the year. I would be happy with the Rose Bowl. 

If by chance we make the playoffs, then I hope they shock me and the world but I’m not betting on them!
This is EXACTLY how I feel, to the letter.  If we don't make it in, I'm okay with that, just win the Rosebowl.  If we make it in, fine, just show up and play your asses off this year don't dial it in and lay a big goose egg like they did a couple of years ago.  I cannot stand that smug SOB Sweeney, I find that guy detestable.  

 
If they play like they did Saturday, they can beat any other team. Bar none.  It has just been the consistency.

That said, I love to watch a good underdog Bucks team go from game they are supposed to get crushed to the next like 2014.  They were supposed to get mauled by both Alabama and Oregon, and that did not happen.  I could see that outcome about as likely as not going well.  Either way, I look forward to see what Saturday holds.  I have a text notification once Ticketmaster starts selling the Rose Bowl tickets Tuesday AM.

 
The narrative stuff comparing team A and team X and team Z gets sillier and sillier every year...and at some point people start caring less with this setup or they already have.  

They need to get to 8 teams, with 5 conference champs getting bids, 2 wild cards (includes Notre Lame's way in), 1 non-power conference invite (if the team meets certain criteria which can easily be figured out, and if there are no teams then another wild card is handed out), and likely dump the conference championships (make the extra money in the playoffs since that's all they are for).  Opening round would be home games this weekend for 1-4 seeds.  It's not difficult, it works great in other divisions, so whoever has the strangle hold on the current setup needs to be removed.

 
The narrative stuff comparing team A and team X and team Z gets sillier and sillier every year...and at some point people start caring less with this setup or they already have.  

They need to get to 8 teams, with 5 conference champs getting bids, 2 wild cards (includes Notre Lame's way in), 1 non-power conference invite (if the team meets certain criteria which can easily be figured out, and if there are no teams then another wild card is handed out), and likely dump the conference championships (make the extra money in the playoffs since that's all they are for).  Opening round would be home games this weekend for 1-4 seeds.  It's not difficult, it works great in other divisions, so whoever has the strangle hold on the current setup needs to be removed.
It's the bowl games.

 
They need to get to 8 teams, with 5 conference champs getting bids, 2 wild cards (includes Notre Lame's way in), 1 non-power conference invite (if the team meets certain criteria which can easily be figured out, and if there are no teams then another wild card is handed out)
I'd be fine with this scenario.  But it wouldn't matter, as whoever is ranked as #9 would be pissed they didn't get in and off you go in the same circles.

likely dump the conference championships (make the extra money in the playoffs since that's all they are for)
Not sure how this would work.  For SEC this year, GA and Bama are both ranked top 8, so that's no issue.  But look at OSU and NW - NW isn't in the top 20, let alone the top 10.  Do they get an automatic berth into the CFP?  If not, why choose an OSU over a NW if both records are the same (10-1)?  For the P5 conferences that have Conf Championships, getting rid of them may be an issue now - if only because you would have teams with similar records.  Do you use Points For/Points Against to determine tie-breakers?  What if a #20 ranked NW team wins the tie-breaker over a #5 ranked OSU? 

I hear alot of talk about removing the Conference Championships, but not sure how well that would go.  If only because some conferences just added them due to the CFP scenario (like the Big12).

 
I'd be fine with this scenario.  But it wouldn't matter, as whoever is ranked as #9 would be pissed they didn't get in and off you go in the same circles.
True, but if #9 is a conference champion, then they're in. 

Honestly, if you're the fourth best non-conference champion, I really don't care what your case is. 

 
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In what fashion?  I'm pretty certain we could come up with something in less than 1 hour to either include them or phase them out over a few years.
40 bowl games produce a LOT of revenue for the schools. You'd have to have a 32 team playoff to come close to replacing that. 

The fear is an 8 team playoff, even if it included 7 bowl games, would make the other 33 bowls seem like the NIT in basketball, and their current revenue would plummet. 

 
40 bowl games produce a LOT of revenue for the schools. You'd have to have a 32 team playoff to come close to replacing that. 

The fear is an 8 team playoff, even if it included 7 bowl games, would make the other 33 bowls seem like the NIT in basketball, and their current revenue would plummet. 
My post awarded home games in the 1st round to the top 4 teams.  I suppose neutral sites could work too.

The bowl schedule remains completely untouched from the current format.  You still only need to rotate 3 bowl games (semi's and champ).  

 
My post awarded home games in the 1st round to the top 4 teams.  I suppose neutral sites could work too.

The bowl schedule remains completely untouched from the current format.  You still only need to rotate 3 bowl games (semi's and champ).  
Again, the fear (not that I agree with it) is that interest in the other bowls shrinks as the size of the playoff grows. So the fact that their schedule remains completely untouched is meaningless. It's the ticket sales and ad revenue from TV viewers that would shrink. 

Again, I would prefer an 8 team playoff and ZERO other bowls, so I'm not arguing to keep the bowls. But I can see why the schools want to keep them. They're gold mines. 

 
I'd be fine with this scenario.  But it wouldn't matter, as whoever is ranked as #9 would be pissed they didn't get in and off you go in the same circles.

Not sure how this would work.  For SEC this year, GA and Bama are both ranked top 8, so that's no issue.  But look at OSU and NW - NW isn't in the top 20, let alone the top 10.  Do they get an automatic berth into the CFP?  If not, why choose an OSU over a NW if both records are the same (10-1)?  For the P5 conferences that have Conf Championships, getting rid of them may be an issue now - if only because you would have teams with similar records.  Do you use Points For/Points Against to determine tie-breakers?  What if a #20 ranked NW team wins the tie-breaker over a #5 ranked OSU? 

I hear alot of talk about removing the Conference Championships, but not sure how well that would go.  If only because some conferences just added them due to the CFP scenario (like the Big12).
Ok, maybe keep the conference championships...only because these conference expansions have made them necessary.  They added to their money making machines and I'm not naive to think the conferences will kick teams out.  

Might have to reduce a game off the schedule though.  That's debatable.

Yes, NW would absolutely get the auto B1G bid.  

 
Again, the fear (not that I agree with it) is that interest in the other bowls shrinks as the size of the playoff grows. So the fact that their schedule remains completely untouched is meaningless. It's the ticket sales and ad revenue from TV viewers that would shrink. 

Again, I would prefer an 8 team playoff and ZERO other bowls, so I'm not arguing to keep the bowls. But I can see why the schools want to keep them. They're gold mines. 
I don't know this "fear" is substantiated.  I definitely don't agree. 

The bowl games are meaningless already today.  If Toledo against Wyoming is making that much money now, they'll be just fine with 4 major college football games being played before the bowls even start. 

You could even allow the 4 teams that lose the week after the conference championships to accept bowl bids.  Maybe they would be predetermined, loser of game A slots into Bowl XX.  Or, game A and B losers play in Bowl XX and game C and D losers play in Bowl YY.  That keeps some of the best teams competing in the bowl season in similar or the same bowls that they'd normally be in.

 
I remember growing up that it wasn't about the national championships as much as win the Big10 and beating Michigan.   It's reached the point of crazy now.   

 
I don't know this "fear" is substantiated.  I definitely don't agree. 

The bowl games are meaningless already today.  If Toledo against Wyoming is making that much money now, they'll be just fine with 4 major college football games being played before the bowls even start. 

You could even allow the 4 teams that lose the week after the conference championships to accept bowl bids.  Maybe they would be predetermined, loser of game A slots into Bowl XX.  Or, game A and B losers play in Bowl XX and game C and D losers play in Bowl YY.  That keeps some of the best teams competing in the bowl season in similar or the same bowls that they'd normally be in.
Again, I agree with you. But they're the ones that are holding back from expanding the playoff.... and that is what their fear is. 

 
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