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No one is concerned about Brown at all? I think he gets 5-10 touches. If Oliver has a similar day to last week, he's near unstartable if that happens.

He's starting for me over Sims, Tre Mason, and Knile Davis.

 
No one is concerned about Brown at all? I think he gets 5-10 touches. If Oliver has a similar day to last week, he's near unstartable if that happens.

He's starting for me over Sims, Tre Mason, and Knile Davis.
I'm hoping a bit of oliver's issue was that they faced a tough bronco run d on what I think was a short week. denard robinson looked ok running against the fins lastweek. I realize it may be a different skill set but they will have to respect rivers more that bortles I would think. not very concerned with brown.

 
No one is concerned about Brown at all? I think he gets 5-10 touches. If Oliver has a similar day to last week, he's near unstartable if that happens.

He's starting for me over Sims, Tre Mason, and Knile Davis.
I'm not worried about Brown getting 10 touches.

 
Just to circle back on some of our discussion, curious about those who had the choice between Oliver and McKinnon as to what people ultimately did. I ran with Oliver over McKinnon, switching them out at the last second. Thinking was it was a coin flip, and would be better to go with the guy with the better matchup and a potentially more solid floor.

Thems the breaks, I guess.

Wondering what others did in terms of their thoughts before the game.

 
Brown, naturally, getting the garbage time touches. Kind of strange given that we know Brown sucks. Why not give Oliver some burn before Mathews to come back to help clarify his role moving forward?

 
Did Oliver look that bad today? Or can most of the blame go to the O-line? It's not like the Chargers offense looked great as a whole.

 
flash in the pan looks like Oliver fans. This guy looks like Olive Oil out there last few games.... sucks for us owners of him who thought he would be sproles on steroids... SD looking like garbage.

 
Did Oliver look that bad today? Or can most of the blame go to the O-line? It's not like the Chargers offense looked great as a whole.
Oliver got pummeled behind the line but he didn't look good either. Hard to disentangle individual performances from the ineptitude of the entire offense in a game like this.

 
Just to circle back on some of our discussion, curious about those who had the choice between Oliver and McKinnon as to what people ultimately did. I ran with Oliver over McKinnon, switching them out at the last second. Thinking was it was a coin flip, and would be better to go with the guy with the better matchup and a potentially more solid floor.

Thems the breaks, I guess.

Wondering what others did in terms of their thoughts before the game.
I did the same thing but it was only a 6 point difference. If I lose on a coin flip, I can't fault myself.

 
Matthews will probably be healthy and starting if he is, Dammit Donald getting playing time, Oliver doing nothing, bye week, the Oline sucks, the whole team has looked like crap. I cant think of any reason to hold him if your not a Matthews owner, can you?

 
Stompin said:
Just to circle back on some of our discussion, curious about those who had the choice between Oliver and McKinnon as to what people ultimately did.
I picked McKinnon because 1) Peterson wasn't coming back, and 2) it seemed like McKinnon was going to get a good share of touches even if Asiata remained the starter. Oliver just seemed like a stopgap until Mathews came back.

 
Matthews will probably be healthy and starting if he is, Dammit Donald getting playing time, Oliver doing nothing, bye week, the Oline sucks, the whole team has looked like crap. I cant think of any reason to hold him if your not a Matthews owner, can you?
It was an all around SD stink fest today. I will still be holding him because Matthews will get hurt as usual and I don't think Brown is a real threat.

 
Holding in a few leagues... Happy to have dealt him and Larry Donnell and Allen Hurns for Christine Michael and Kyle Rudolph in a dynasty league a wk ago... SD line looks awful

 
Cut Oliver...it's time
Yeah I'm holding him in a couple of leagues with larger rosters and dropping him in one with very tight roster limits. Looks like I was wrong about him. Sure thought he could carve out a significant role but I think it's gonna be all about Mathews with Oliver and Dammit Donald sprinkled in if everyone stays healthy the rest of the way.

 
Just to circle back on some of our discussion, curious about those who had the choice between Oliver and McKinnon as to what people ultimately did.
I picked McKinnon because 1) Peterson wasn't coming back, and 2) it seemed like McKinnon was going to get a good share of touches even if Asiata remained the starter. Oliver just seemed like a stopgap until Mathews came back.
A stop gap like mckinion is for ADP?

 
This SD line is god awful. I thought I would have seen them go more to a short passing game to setup some draws etc... but it hasn't materialized. Oliver is a hold right now because he is talented with space.

 
Life in fantasy circles is sometimes 2 weeks, but to be honest, he's a dynasty keeper in deeper leagues.

There's no value to trade him now, so why give him away if Chargers get it together he can show again that he can run.

It's not like his skills were lost with age after 2 weeks. Patience is the word here now.

 
Like I said before, there will be some nice games for Oliver going forward....and some pure busts. I like him in the same vein as Sproles/Forsett/etc. Let's see what the everyone thinks of him when he chalks up another 23-yard afternoon, like he did two weeks ago against the Jags.

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:whistle:

I guess my question was answered.

Looking back in this thread to about Page 6 and Page 7, there is some classic humor.

 
Anyone holding on? Or just cutting him and moving on?
Holding. My thought was when I took him off waivers was that he was going to fill the Woodhead role at the very least.
I think you have to hold. Even if Mathews comes back to his regular timesharing load and Oliver assumes the Woodhead roll, Mathews is always a play away from missing significant time.
It seems most people/experts are assuming Oliver "assumes the Woodhead" role." But if this is the case then why was Ronnie Brown subbing in for Oliver on virtually every 3rd down situation?

If the coaches thought he was Woodhead II then you'd think he would have had played 100% in those situations with Mathews out. That is where I would get nervous as an Oliver owner.

 
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Anyone holding on? Or just cutting him and moving on?
Holding. My thought was when I took him off waivers was that he was going to fill the Woodhead role at the very least.
I think you have to hold. Even if Mathews comes back to his regular timesharing load and Oliver assumes the Woodhead roll, Mathews is always a play away from missing significant time.
It seems most people/experts are assuming Oliver "assumes the Woodhead" role." But if this is the case then why was Ronnie Brown subbing in for Oliver on virtually every 3rd down situation?

If the coaches thought he was Woodhead II then you'd think he would have had played 100% in those situations with Mathews out. That is where I would get nervous as an Oliver owner.
Agreed. Since day 1 people have been making the comparisons to Sproles, Woodhead, etc., but that's really not his game. They still may end up putting him in that role when Mathews returns, but I think he's more of a back-up to Mathews than to Woodhead.

 
Anyone holding on? Or just cutting him and moving on?
Holding. My thought was when I took him off waivers was that he was going to fill the Woodhead role at the very least.
I think you have to hold. Even if Mathews comes back to his regular timesharing load and Oliver assumes the Woodhead roll, Mathews is always a play away from missing significant time.
It seems most people/experts are assuming Oliver "assumes the Woodhead" role." But if this is the case then why was Ronnie Brown subbing in for Oliver on virtually every 3rd down situation?

If the coaches thought he was Woodhead II then you'd think he would have had played 100% in those situations with Mathews out. That is where I would get nervous as an Oliver owner.
:goodposting:

Donald Brown and Ronnie Brown are both better at pass protection, which is a major problem for the Chargers. Oliver is a more dynamic receiver and better with the ball in space, so he deserves some looks as a receiver, but "the Woodhead role" from last year doesn't exist any more.

 
I don't think Oliver takes the Woodhead role, but I am also holding. If Matthews gets injured again (not at all unlikely), Oliver is the guy. He had a couple duds in a row, but he had TOUGH matchups. Denver was insane and Miami has a sick rush D.

He is a hold also in dynasty in that Matthews is in the final year of his contract. If Oliver still gets carries when Matthews comes back and out plays him, then the Chargers will go with the cheaper option, let Matthews go and draft competition at RB. He's a hold simply because of opportunity.

 
Anyone holding on? Or just cutting him and moving on?
Holding. My thought was when I took him off waivers was that he was going to fill the Woodhead role at the very least.
I think you have to hold. Even if Mathews comes back to his regular timesharing load and Oliver assumes the Woodhead roll, Mathews is always a play away from missing significant time.
It seems most people/experts are assuming Oliver "assumes the Woodhead" role." But if this is the case then why was Ronnie Brown subbing in for Oliver on virtually every 3rd down situation?

If the coaches thought he was Woodhead II then you'd think he would have had played 100% in those situations with Mathews out. That is where I would get nervous as an Oliver owner.
:goodposting:

Donald Brown and Ronnie Brown are both better at pass protection, which is a major problem for the Chargers. Oliver is a more dynamic receiver and better with the ball in space, so he deserves some looks as a receiver, but "the Woodhead role" from last year doesn't exist any more.
Yeah, I've been saying the same thing. There is no such thing as the Woodhead Role. Woodhead is a unique weapon; you don't just plug in another guy and expect the same results.

 
So is this done or is he worth a stash over a lottery ticket like Christine Michael?

Kind of intrigued by this Oakland matchup

 
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Anyone holding on? Or just cutting him and moving on?
Holding. My thought was when I took him off waivers was that he was going to fill the Woodhead role at the very least.
I think you have to hold. Even if Mathews comes back to his regular timesharing load and Oliver assumes the Woodhead roll, Mathews is always a play away from missing significant time.
It seems most people/experts are assuming Oliver "assumes the Woodhead" role." But if this is the case then why was Ronnie Brown subbing in for Oliver on virtually every 3rd down situation?

If the coaches thought he was Woodhead II then you'd think he would have had played 100% in those situations with Mathews out. That is where I would get nervous as an Oliver owner.
:goodposting:

Donald Brown and Ronnie Brown are both better at pass protection, which is a major problem for the Chargers. Oliver is a more dynamic receiver and better with the ball in space, so he deserves some looks as a receiver, but "the Woodhead role" from last year doesn't exist any more.
It's worth noting that the above was true for Woodhead, too. Guy was a turnstile in pass pro.

 

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