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Blind Bid Auctions for free agents are becoming more and more popular. In saying that with a $100 cap (the normal default number from what I have seen), what would you bid for Jackson?

I am currently placing bids I think for about $72 to make sure I get him. To high or to low?

 
I'd keep a couple of bucks back if you need it to pick up a kicker or a D later on in the year, but I don't think it's going to get better than Jackson... then again I thought that when I big my wad on Massaquoi right before Austin broke out. :rolleyes:

 
i'b bet it all. Someone else will and he is now a starting RB for the rest of the year.
Dunno that he's guaranteed to start for the rest of the year, but he'll certainly be given the chance to earn it. They could trade for someone and Starks should be back after week 6.
 
depends on if you can pick up players for 0$ and depends on your rb core.

 
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i got a $70 cap and my rbs are best bradshaw tomlinson and barber im thinking i only wanna bid $15 i just have a gut feeling Fred Taylor is gonna take off like corey dillons last hoorah in new england so ill put out a bid for jackson but my real sneaky target will be taylor

 
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We have always used blind bidding in my league for all non-rostered players. We start w/ a budget of $120, and I'm guessing our high bid will be in the $80 range. Our league has learned the need to have $$ towards the end of the season--no money = no ability to pick up "free agent" players.

 
My league you can bid $0 on a player and still receive him, so that would be my plan for bye week k, te and def. My running back situation is Benson, Foster, Best, Michael Bush and Benard Scott.

I could use Jackson esp next week since they play the Bills and Benson gets the Ravens. I think I may bet the entire $100

 
We have always used blind bidding in my league for all non-rostered players. We start w/ a budget of $120, and I'm guessing our high bid will be in the $80 range. Our league has learned the need to have $$ towards the end of the season--no money = no ability to pick up "free agent" players.
It's our first year with blind bids - and we do have the ability to bid $0 for players. So, is the smart move to bet the entire cap on Jackson and then just muddle thru the rest of the season or should I still try to leave a few $$ in the bank?
 
this is the first year one of my leagues has done blind bids - does anyone think that will make people more cautious with their money in the first week?

aka can I get Jackson without bidding 60%+ of my money or do I have to bid the same as if I was in a league full of sharks.

 
We use blind bidding in many of my longest running leagues and there's no way he'll go for full bids. But we don't have FCFS waivers so you have to use your $$$ for every roster move. I expect he'll go for between 50% and 60% of our annual budget in most of my leagues.

 
$100 cap..my RB's are Pierre, Spiller, Jerome, Forsett and Leon

I'm thinking I blow my wad on this one..

thoughts..?

 
We have always used blind bidding in my league for all non-rostered players. We start w/ a budget of $120, and I'm guessing our high bid will be in the $80 range. Our league has learned the need to have $$ towards the end of the season--no money = no ability to pick up "free agent" players.
It's our first year with blind bids - and we do have the ability to bid $0 for players. So, is the smart move to bet the entire cap on Jackson and then just muddle thru the rest of the season or should I still try to leave a few $$ in the bank?
What would you be saving those last few bucks for? If something worthwhile pops up on the WW later in the season, you won't be winning them for a few bucks anyway. Go all in on Jackson, and just pick up K and D for $0 as needed when byes roll around.
 
again....... if you want him, bid it all. Many twitter guys that are followed by tons of people are saying if you want him bid it all. SOMEONE in your league will bid it all - right or wrong. So, if you need him then bid it all or you wont get him. Only bid less than all if you play in a very casual league or just dont care if you get him. If you want him then bid it all.

 
We have always used blind bidding in my league for all non-rostered players. We start w/ a budget of $120, and I'm guessing our high bid will be in the $80 range. Our league has learned the need to have $$ towards the end of the season--no money = no ability to pick up "free agent" players.
It's our first year with blind bids - and we do have the ability to bid $0 for players. So, is the smart move to bet the entire cap on Jackson and then just muddle thru the rest of the season or should I still try to leave a few $$ in the bank?
Depends on exactly how you're system is set up. In our league, there is no true waiver wire. You NEED to have fantasy $ to bid on a non-rostered player (& we have $5 minimum bids required). We have owners in our league who have learned the hard way to have money to pick up an extra DST or K, or even a crappy QB as an emergency starter. 5 years ago (I think), one team lost the championship game b/c he ran out of $$ & couldn't pick up a replacement for his injured K...he lost by .5 point. Personally, I'm gonna probably bid $40 on BJ, and I'm 99.9% sure that won't be enough...but you never know. Just an example, just before week 1, the winning bid on Seattle Mike Williams was $20...
 
Starting RBs don't fall off trees and it's a long season.

I'd go large and never regret if I double then next closest bet - it can certainly save a season and has in the past.

 
Okay, so I get that now, if you want him, you have to bid 100%, or close to it. My question then becomes is Jackson worth that? My initial thought is that this is the surest waiver bet to make, but it could also turn into a full fledged committee right?

This is my first year at this blind bidding stuff too so I'm not sure, but my opinion is that there is not going to be anybody else worth the risk, especially in leagues that has a free for all after waivers. If you need a kicker or something at that point then just pick up whoever is there.

 
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We have no limit, but whatever you bid is how much you owe in actual $ at the end of the year. $150 buy in. I'm excited to see how crazy it gets, but I probably won't get involved as I have Rice/Wells/Benson/Barber. LY we had bids in the $25-30 range, I expect BJax to be in the $50 range.

 
cubbie5150 said:
We have always used blind bidding in my league for all non-rostered players. We start w/ a budget of $120, and I'm guessing our high bid will be in the $80 range. Our league has learned the need to have $$ towards the end of the season--no money = no ability to pick up "free agent" players.
not to mention that this isn't the only injured RB this year. Just the only significant injury in week one. There will be 4 or 5 other major injury 'insta-stars' in the next 6-7 weeks.I think we need to more thoroughly look at what Brandon Jackson brings to the table before we start calling him the next Priest Holmes just because he's the back up RB on a pass first team that will put up a good number of points (though last weak they were not nearly as explosive as advertised.... or Philly D is just that good).
 
Brandon Jackson is a total buyer beware.

Whoever will get the majority of the carries by week 4 for the Packers isn't on their roster as of yet.

 
Hipple said:
todisco1 said:
benm3218 said:
i'b bet it all. Someone else will and he is now a starting RB for the rest of the year.
Dunno that he's guaranteed to start for the rest of the year, but he'll certainly be given the chance to earn it. They could trade for someone and Starks should be back after week 6.
If starks wasn't hurt, this'd be a full blown RBBC. That ain't gold boys, it's pyrite.
wrong - MM already said before Grant injury that he sees Jackson as their three down back if Grant gets hurt:
"Brandon Jackson to me is an every-down back," McCarthy said. "(He) is a good special teams player, too. He's a complete football player, and if we had to play all three downs with him, I wouldn't even blink."
 
cubbie5150 said:
We have always used blind bidding in my league for all non-rostered players. We start w/ a budget of $120, and I'm guessing our high bid will be in the $80 range. Our league has learned the need to have $$ towards the end of the season--no money = no ability to pick up "free agent" players.
not to mention that this isn't the only injured RB this year. Just the only significant injury in week one. There will be 4 or 5 other major injury 'insta-stars' in the next 6-7 weeks.
Disagree, only Chris Johnson has a clear everydown backup among the top 10-15 RBs. Lotsa RBBC if starters go down. Also a lot of the major injuries to RBs will happen to RBBC backs, where back that gains is already rostered.I feel confident that Bjax has most potential value of any WW pickup this year.
 
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Peiz said:
Okay, so I get that now, if you want him, you have to bid 100%, or close to it. My question then becomes is Jackson worth that? My initial thought is that this is the surest waiver bet to make, but it could also turn into a full fledged committee right?This is my first year at this blind bidding stuff too so I'm not sure, but my opinion is that there is not going to be anybody else worth the risk, especially in leagues that has a free for all after waivers. If you need a kicker or something at that point then just pick up whoever is there.
GB coaches said during preseason that they'd be perfectly comfortable using Brandon Jackson as a 3-down RB if they had to. I doubt they knew that their comments would seem so prescient after just one week, but there it is. I expect Green Bay to roster someone else for depth, but I think Jackson is the guy from here on out.
Hipple said:
meh jackson is pretty bad. I could see putting a chunk down but I'm not blowing my full stack on a guy that mediocre.
He's really not bad. He's a slightly worse runner than Grant, but it's not like Grant was a world-beater. Jackson is a better blocker and receiver than Grant. That offense is tailor-made for big production from the RB position. I think he's a quality fantasy RB2 for the rest of the season.
 
nyy45 said:
$100 cap..my RB's are Pierre, Spiller, Jerome, Forsett and LeonI'm thinking I blow my wad on this one..thoughts..?
No way. Look at the GB Back field right now.It is RB: Brandon Jackson (3RB), James Starks (PUP)[out at least 6 weeks], Ryan Grant (IR)FB: Korey Hall, John Kuhn, Quinn JohnsonThey are OBVIOUSLY going to either trade for a back or bring in an unsigned free agent to share the load. They have too. Any idea who it looks like that is gonna be? That would also be nice to know, because I've done the opposite and bought the farm on a crap back, only to have them bring in a replacement days later, and it sucks.
 
nyy45 said:
$100 cap..my RB's are Pierre, Spiller, Jerome, Forsett and LeonI'm thinking I blow my wad on this one..thoughts..?
No way. Look at the GB Back field right now.It is RB: Brandon Jackson (3RB), James Starks (PUP)[out at least 6 weeks], Ryan Grant (IR)FB: Korey Hall, John Kuhn, Quinn JohnsonThey are OBVIOUSLY going to either trade for a back or bring in an unsigned free agent to share the load. They have too. Any idea who it looks like that is gonna be? That would also be nice to know, because I've done the opposite and bought the farm on a crap back, only to have them bring in a replacement days later, and it sucks.
they already did: Dimitri Nance, a PS back from ATL.You have this one wrong, Hipple, Bjax is their everydown back and MM is confident in him. They wouldnt have gone into the season with only two tailbacks if he didn't feel that way. Two backs GB cut are on rosters right now (Wynn-NO, Lumpkin-TB), so it isnt like they cut camp bodies to get down to those 2.
 
I think bid amount depends on the depth of the rosters. If you have fairly large rosters and do not anticipate needing to add many more players during the season I can see where someone may choose to spend up near 90%. If you have smaller rosters with decent talent available and a need to make frequent moves during the season that high number might drop to something like 65%?

 
wrong - MM already said before Grant injury that he sees Jackson as their three down back if Grant gets hurt:"Brandon Jackson to me is an every-down back," McCarthy said. "(He) is a good special teams player, too. He's a complete football player, and if we had to play all three downs with him, I wouldn't even blink."
n the sixth round of the 2010 NFL draft, the Green Bay Packers added running back James Starks out of Buffalo with the hopes they have a future feature back to replace the aging Ryan Grant.The 6’2″ 218 lb. Starks should be well rested after a shoulder injury sidelined him for the entire 2009 season.Prior to the injury, the three year starter played all 36 games and amassed 3,140 yards on 698 carries, good for a 4.5 ypc. average. He also added 34 TDs, 16 of them coming in his last full year in 2008.In each year from 2006 through 2008, Starks managed to better his previous year in nearly every statistical category. There is no question he has the size, speed and intangibles to make for an intriguing rookie selection. Whether or not he is able to reproduce his production in the NFL is another matter altogether.While Starks should have fresh legs from many months of game day inactivity, those same legs are also likely to suffer from a lack of conditioning due to that same inactivity. Sideline and off-field conditioning does not replace the rigors of a full season of contact work.To wit, while impressive early in the Spring, Starks has now been sidelined for many weeks with a nagging hamstring injury and is losing ground to fourth string RB Quinn Porter.Running back coach Edgar Bennett had praised Starks’s explosion, vision and change of direction early, but his lack of practice time leaves only guesswork as to what he can become with more reps.Given the depth chart, there is a growing possibility that Starks could end up on injured reserve. Should that happen, je will not have seen game competition in more than two years. That would make for a dubious start to his professional career.Looking at Green Bay’s depth chart, the 27 year old Ryan Grant (he’ll be 28 before the end of 2010) remains the clear starter. He’ll most certainly have at least one further year as the unquestioned starter.Third down back Brandon Jackson, hasn’t been able to take advantage of the opportunities given to supplant Grant as the starter at any point, but as a free agent in 2011, could get an opportunity to compete for a starting job elsewhere at that time.In my opinion, there is little chance that Jackson returns to the Packers in 2011. This should leave a wide open opportunity to the No. 2 running back position. Someone could have starter potential within three years if they can achieve that role.Without the addition of another back in 2011, it would seem that the competition will be between Starks and Porter. Should Grant falter at any point along the way, the No. 2 running back would have immediate starting potential. Should this occur in 2010, Jackson is the obvious first choice. However, he has shown no ability to date to be a full-time replacement, so success is not guaranteed.When watching the available film, it’s obvious what the Packer coaching staff sees in Starks. True to Bennett’s assessment, he displays excellent vision and a good burst to daylight. While perhaps a bit stiff in the hips, this is not unexpected for a back of his size and he more than makes up for it with good lateral mobility and burst.Starks can reach his 4.5 40 yard dash top-end speed quickly and has the physicality to punish would-be tacklers.Perhaps even more noteworthy than his blend of size, speed and vision are his incredibly capable hands. Starks hauled in a very impressive 105 receptions in his three years in Buffalo. Couple that with the fact that he only pulled in 12 during his first year as a starter, and you find he averaged better than 46 receptions per year over his last two years. James Starks has a rare blend of NFL size and 3rd down ability.Starks was not asked to master blocking in Buffalo. As Brandon Jackson found out early in his career, lack of blocking expertise has, and will, keep you off the field. This area of growth will be a key for Starks.Not many sixth round running backs go on to have productive NFL careers and to expect anything other than a career matching this selection would normally be a fool’s folly. In this case, the rare combination of skills that Starks possesses, along with his drafted situation in Green Bay makes for a very intriguing early 2nd round selection in rookie drafts.When reviewing dynasty rookie drafts, Starks appears to be a selection in the early teens, on par with what I believe his value to be. Should you be a coach with adequate WR youth and depth (such that you could pass on a WR at this pick), as well as patience, I could actually make a case for a selection of Starks in the 9-11 range.With any 2nd round RB choice, the desire is for them to eventually get a crack to be a starter. The tea leaves tell me that he will get this opportunity.The rest is up to him.One Response To “Dynasty Spotlight: James Starks”Camperhead Says:August 15, 2010 at 11:14 amADP info I’ve compiled from draft results posted in the DLF forums show Starks to be a mid-third-rounder, the tenth rookie RB off the board. None of these show him going any earlier than 17th, and his ADP is around 26. I realize, of course, you may have access to more data than I’ve tracked down.With him likely being headed to IR (and the possible emergence of Porter), I wouldn’t expect that position to improve much, though I agree he’s a better flyer than a few of the RBs going ahead of him.
 
That article is pure speculation. Edgar Bennett gushed about Kregg Lumpkin a few years back and he got cut this year. Starks won't do diddly unless he gets healthy, which he hasn't been for over a year now. There is no reason to doubt that Bjax is everydown back, not sure why this is even a debate.

 
That article is pure speculation. Edgar Bennett gushed about Kregg Lumpkin a few years back and he got cut this year. Starks won't do diddly unless he gets healthy, which he hasn't been for over a year now. There is no reason to doubt that Bjax is everydown back, not sure why this is even a debate.
Any upside into the top12 there Sig?
 
That article is pure speculation. Edgar Bennett gushed about Kregg Lumpkin a few years back and he got cut this year. Starks won't do diddly unless he gets healthy, which he hasn't been for over a year now. There is no reason to doubt that Bjax is everydown back, not sure why this is even a debate.
Any upside into the top12 there Sig?
upside sure, but we still have to see Bjax hold up under that load, some risk too. Chances are he levels off at Grant's production, maybe slightly more in PPR lgs than Grant b/c he will actually play all 3 downs.
 
That article is pure speculation. Edgar Bennett gushed about Kregg Lumpkin a few years back and he got cut this year. Starks won't do diddly unless he gets healthy, which he hasn't been for over a year now. There is no reason to doubt that Bjax is everydown back, not sure why this is even a debate.
Any upside into the top12 there Sig?
upside sure, but we still have to see Bjax hold up under that load, some risk too. Chances are he levels off at Grant's production, maybe slightly more in PPR lgs than Grant b/c he will actually play all 3 downs.
Good stuff - looking forward to your analysis with Matt and Cecil on "The Audible" this week.
 
BradtheAg said:
We have no limit, but whatever you bid is how much you owe in actual $ at the end of the year. $150 buy in. I'm excited to see how crazy it gets, but I probably won't get involved as I have Rice/Wells/Benson/Barber. LY we had bids in the $25-30 range, I expect BJax to be in the $50 range.
Ditto for my league with no limit. The normal kittie for our 12-team dynasty league is about $2500 for WW pickups and IR charges.I probably paid the most for any single player: $85 for Anquan Boldin in his rookie year. Clear starting RBs, should go between $40 and $60. The Ryan Grant owner is a penny pincher so he'll bid about $10 (even though he's running ADP also) and the 3-4 other guys will bid between $25 and $60.Me? I'll go $45 and see how it goes. :goodposting:
 
nyy45 said:
$100 cap..my RB's are Pierre, Spiller, Jerome, Forsett and Leon

I'm thinking I blow my wad on this one..

thoughts..?
No way. Look at the GB Back field right now.

It is

RB: Brandon Jackson (3RB), James Starks (PUP)[out at least 6 weeks], Ryan Grant (IR)

FB: Korey Hall, John Kuhn, Quinn Johnson

They are OBVIOUSLY going to either trade for a back or bring in an unsigned free agent to share the load. They have too. Any idea who it looks like that is gonna be? That would also be nice to know, because I've done the opposite and bought the farm on a crap back, only to have them bring in a replacement days later, and it sucks.
they already did: Dimitri Nance, a PS back from ATL.

You have this one wrong, Hipple, Bjax is their everydown back and MM is confident in him. They wouldnt have gone into the season with only two tailbacks if he didn't feel that way. Two backs GB cut are on rosters right now (Wynn-NO, Lumpkin-TB), so it isnt like they cut camp bodies to get down to those 2.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=529812a lot of love from some smart guys here. :shrug: And Bjackson has been given the chance to do this before how many times? I am just saying this ain't the first time (I know I've drafted him 2 or 3 of the last 5 years) that he was supposed to 'take the reins'. Each of those times he was passed by a previously unheard of guy (one being ryan grant). Just because he's the only RB that can suit up that's not a FB doesn't mean that he's an auto rb2 just yet.

 
That article is pure speculation. Edgar Bennett gushed about Kregg Lumpkin a few years back and he got cut this year. Starks won't do diddly unless he gets healthy, which he hasn't been for over a year now. There is no reason to doubt that Bjax is everydown back, not sure why this is even a debate.
Bloom - do you think BJax will get the GL carries?
 
No way. Look at the GB Back field right now.It is RB: Brandon Jackson (3RB), James Starks (PUP)[out at least 6 weeks], Ryan Grant (IR)FB: Korey Hall, John Kuhn, Quinn JohnsonThey are OBVIOUSLY going to either trade for a back or bring in an unsigned free agent to share the load. They have too. Any idea who it looks like that is gonna be? That would also be nice to know, because I've done the opposite and bought the farm on a crap back, only to have them bring in a replacement days later, and it sucks.
I actually know exactly who it's going to be. Dimitri Nance, an RB on Atlanta's practice squad.In NFL terms, signing a practice squadder to the active roster is basically the equivalent of saying "thanks for the concern, but we feel pretty good about the position already".
 
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=529812

a lot of love from some smart guys here. :eek: And Bjackson has been given the chance to do this before how many times? I am just saying this ain't the first time (I know I've drafted him 2 or 3 of the last 5 years) that he was supposed to 'take the reins'. Each of those times he was passed by a previously unheard of guy (one being ryan grant). Just because he's the only RB that can suit up that's not a FB doesn't mean that he's an auto rb2 just yet.
Other than Grant, what RBs have passed Jackson?
 

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