Hipple Long Ware & Peete
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was actually about to try and trade for him as Bradshaw owner looking to hedge with Thomas/Jones out on bye. Now it looks like I'll prolly run redman.
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Brandon Jacobs (knee) MCL sprain Probable for MNF (1 Viewer)
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Dought Man
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Jacobs sat out of practice Friday. He was on the sidelines.
Bradshaw with 25+ carries and a huge day coming! choo choo !!!!!
Coughlin doesnt like playing guys with injuries and will likely hold Jacobs back, especially if they get up early..
Bradshaw with 25+ carries and a huge day coming! choo choo !!!!!
Coughlin doesnt like playing guys with injuries and will likely hold Jacobs back, especially if they get up early..
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drfeelgood
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Danny Ware would get a few carries.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Dammit Jacobs. I haven't played you once and you've been steady with limited carries. Nothing magical, but a solid number was all I needed this weekend.
Furious Yeti
Footballguy
ESPN reports that Giants RB Brandon Jacobs, who missed practice Wednesday and Thursday, is not just dealing with swelling in his knees but has an MCL sprain. The New York Daily News confirmed through a source that Jacobs has a "mildly" sprained MCL. Jacobs missed practice Friday for a third straight day and is listed as doubtful for Week 5 against Seattle.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
So this is a 3-4 week injury kind of like Hernandez, or is it more mild. I mean he's not listed as OUT?
from the WSJ
from the WSJ
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Was wondering this too. Will he get some carries?
the_vision
Footballguy
I believe I read somewhere that not one player listed as doubtful started a game last season.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Maybe reading articles posted in the thread would lessen this sense of wonder.from the article posted 3 posts above
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vamphyri
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Dought Man
Footballguy
Make sure you start Bradshaw this week. Coughlin doesnt trust anyone else with carries. Huge day coming...he will be in the top 5 this week.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I'd start K Williams in Detroit if you're stuck this week, he has a shot at a TD.
I wouldn't start Ware in FF, but he's been there a good while now for this very reason. 3 years? Coughlin is fine with Ware, you're mistaken.He's always been an under appreciated tough back. IIRC The Jets cut him after a nice preseason and their fans here balked about it. I don't want to make any projections here, but Bradshaw isn't getting 100% of the carries. Coughlin's and Gilbride's coaching careers pretty much prove they'll use more than one. Lion's share? Sure, but some in this thread are too excited and a lil overboard.For as long as I can remember, the Gmen have often gone with the hot hand at RB. It didn't seem to matter who was the coach. I can remember young Ward keeping Tiki on the sidelines for a bit-not all game, maybe a series, but Ward made some good runs-a let's see what he can do type of reaction to a nice run. Many here are too young, but the Giants actually struggled mightily to find a RB and had a FB Charles Way as their best runner for a while there and third down back David Meggett was an integral part of the offense(relied upon more than any 3rd RB in today's game).I would start Bradshaw with a ton of confidence, but the Gmen will kick the tires with the rook and Ware. I still believe Bradshaw gets easily tired and think it's in his best interest to sit for a spell. The Gmen can't run Bradshaw eight times on a long drive, maybe with a couple screens, then stop the opposing O quickly and expect Bradshaw to last for an entire long drive again. He's not a workhorse or sled-dog type. He loses his outsanding burst when they do this and even some of his wiggle. If you watch, if he sits a five? plays, he's suddenly rejuvenated. Ironic and oddly enough anyone hinting they won't use the rook's speed as a fresh set of legs, discredit how Bradshaw earned his spot and initially got noticed.Just move Bradshaw to the top of the pecking order and skip the rest of these projections. He'll do fine.
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duaneok66
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just a hunch??
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I don't think anyone is saying Bradshaw won't get spelled a little, and that he's gonna become a 40 carry a game okoye. But the splits so far this season have been far from that. He won't be sitting out full series IMO as he was when Jacobs was the RBBC mate.
netnalp
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I think Bradshaw will get more touches. The Giants normally alternate drives with Bradshaw and Jacobs taking turns at being the main back, then spelling for each other after a long run or several plays in a row. Giants seem to be running more screen plays, which makes sense since the line has had trouble run blocking so far this season.
I think Ware will get less touches than Jacobs did, because in past seasons Ware hasn't seen the field much. Like last year, there was an emphasis on keeping the RBs healthy so Bradshaw and Jacobs shared the load. Despite the concern, Ware did not get many touches during garbage time and there were games like the Houston game, where it's odd Ware didn't handle the carries for the 4th quarter.
Ware and Scott will probably be used to give Bradshaw a breather. And Ware should go in as a pass blocker on some plays. If the Giants were interested in getting Ware experience or to see what he can do, they'd have done that in previous seasons.
I think Ware will get less touches than Jacobs did, because in past seasons Ware hasn't seen the field much. Like last year, there was an emphasis on keeping the RBs healthy so Bradshaw and Jacobs shared the load. Despite the concern, Ware did not get many touches during garbage time and there were games like the Houston game, where it's odd Ware didn't handle the carries for the 4th quarter.
Ware and Scott will probably be used to give Bradshaw a breather. And Ware should go in as a pass blocker on some plays. If the Giants were interested in getting Ware experience or to see what he can do, they'd have done that in previous seasons.
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VaTerp
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Bradshaw owner liking that he should get a bigger slice of the pie with Jacobs out but also wary of the matchup.
Seattle is one of the more underrated run defenses in the league. When Red Bryant is in the lineup they have been near dominant in stopping the run.
I think Bradshaw needs to get his points this week out of the passing game.
Seattle is one of the more underrated run defenses in the league. When Red Bryant is in the lineup they have been near dominant in stopping the run.
I think Bradshaw needs to get his points this week out of the passing game.
phillybirds
Footballguy
bump...looking for any updates on his injury
was hoping to use him for a bye week replacement
was hoping to use him for a bye week replacement
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
bump
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
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Brandon Jacobs learns lesson 'not to play hurt,' will return to NY Giants lineup when MCL heals
Read more: http://www.nydailyne...l#ixzz1bIBQ0w2d
After Brandon Jacobs suffered through a painful and miserable 2009 season he said he learned a valuable lesson: "Not to play hurt."
So he won't, no matter how much he wants to return to the Giants after the bye week after missing the last two games with a sprained MCL.
"No question about it and I will not do that again - point blank," Jacobs said Tuesday. "I knew (in 2009) I wasn't fully healthy, but I still went out there and tried to help the team as much as I can. It only ended up hurting me in the end. You can bet my bottom dollar that is definitely not going to happen to me (again)."
It may not be an issue, because the 29-year-old running back said the swelling and pain in his knee are "almost all gone" and he has "no question" that he'll be able to play against the Miami Dolphins on Oct. 30. But lingering in his mind is how he tore the meniscus cartilage in his right knee in the 2009 opener.
He needed surgery that would've sidelined him for a month. Instead he kept playing and suffered through his worst season, rushing for 835 yards on just 3.7 yards per carry.
That's why he said that even though his knee is much better, "I want it to go all the way where I don't feel nothing at all, because if I go out there and feel a little pain then it's not helping myself or the football team."
Just how much he'll actually help is also an issue. Before getting hurt, Jacobs carried the ball only 38 times (for 116 yards) in four games. And while that's slightly more than he averaged last season, Jacobs is clearly frustrated with his limited role.
Asked how much he'd be able to play upon his return, Jacobs said "When I say play, I mean do what I was doing before - three, four carries, five carries, whatever they ask." He also said his return would be more of "a mental lift" because he's not on the field very often.
"I'll come back and help as much as I can with what I get," he said. "I'm looking forward to helping as much as I can with the chances I'm given."
Clearly Jacobs was anticipating more of a chance, since back in February Tom Coughlin said Jacobs "has a lot of gas in the tank" and insisted "you'd want him to have a few more carries" than the 147 he had last season.
Jacobs said he dismissed that as just "people making comments in the offseason" and wasn't expecting anything.
"Listen, man, I don't know the way things go," Jacobs said. "I take what I'm given and I try to make it the best I can. That's it."
When former Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce criticized Jacobs and Justin Tuck last week for sitting out the Week 4 loss to the Seattle Seahawks, Tuck fired back at Pierce, and added that Jacobs' reaction wasn't as "kindhearted and loving and lovable" as Tuck's own comments.
But Jacobs has had time to cool off. And Tuesday, he explained why.
"No, I wasn't bothered by Antonio," said Jacobs. "Antonio knows better than to say something like that. He knows this game very, very, very well. He knows. He knows what it is. He's getting paid to do that. They might have given him a little extra bonus to say that."
http://www.nydailyne...l#ixzz1bIBLsoH5
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
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Brandon Jacobs complaining about his work load is nothing new. His role with the Giants has always been that of a complimentary back who steps in when New York needs tough yards or sees his role expanded when someone is injured. For a short time at the beginning of last season, Jacobs was the Giants starting running back. With the emergence of Ahmad Bradshaw, he took a back seat.
Jacobs has missed New York's last two games with a sprained MCL and has yet to return to practice. Bradshaw racked up 130 total yards of offense and scored three touchdowns against Buffalo last weekend without Jacobs to spell him. Perhaps it is that performance that has Brandon feeling even more threatened about what his role will be when he makes his anticipated return against Miami next week.
"When I say 'play' I mean do what I was doing before, three, four carries, five carries," he said according to Newsday. "Whatever they ask."
He was then asked about what type of lift he believes his and Justin Tuck's return will provide for the Giants.
"It's only going to be a mental lift," Jacobs said. "Justin [Tuck], he actually takes 60-70 plays a game. Me, I'll come back and help as much as I can with what I get to help with. I'm looking forward to helping as much as I can with the chances I'm given."
Somebody call the whambulance. Running backs coach Jerald Ingram assured Jacobs that an expanded role will be coming in the later part of the season when guys are banged up and tired, the same way it shook out in the final two months of last season.
Most importantly, Jacobs is not even healthy. Rather than talking about what his role may or may not be when he can return to the field, he should probably concentrate his efforts on returning to the field. When he is healthy enough to play, the rest will work itself out.
About Steve DelVecchio:
Steve DelVecchio is an East Coast sports enthusiast serving as an editor and lead contributor for Larry Brown Sports. He also writes for The Daily News of Newburyport. You can follow him on twitter @SteveDelSports.
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Jacobs has missed New York's last two games with a sprained MCL and has yet to return to practice. Bradshaw racked up 130 total yards of offense and scored three touchdowns against Buffalo last weekend without Jacobs to spell him. Perhaps it is that performance that has Brandon feeling even more threatened about what his role will be when he makes his anticipated return against Miami next week.
"When I say 'play' I mean do what I was doing before, three, four carries, five carries," he said according to Newsday. "Whatever they ask."
He was then asked about what type of lift he believes his and Justin Tuck's return will provide for the Giants.
"It's only going to be a mental lift," Jacobs said. "Justin [Tuck], he actually takes 60-70 plays a game. Me, I'll come back and help as much as I can with what I get to help with. I'm looking forward to helping as much as I can with the chances I'm given."
Somebody call the whambulance. Running backs coach Jerald Ingram assured Jacobs that an expanded role will be coming in the later part of the season when guys are banged up and tired, the same way it shook out in the final two months of last season.
Most importantly, Jacobs is not even healthy. Rather than talking about what his role may or may not be when he can return to the field, he should probably concentrate his efforts on returning to the field. When he is healthy enough to play, the rest will work itself out.
About Steve DelVecchio:
Steve DelVecchio is an East Coast sports enthusiast serving as an editor and lead contributor for Larry Brown Sports. He also writes for The Daily News of Newburyport. You can follow him on twitter @SteveDelSports.
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Brandon Jacobs (knee) was limited in Friday's practice, but is listed as probable for Week 8.The probable tag means a player is "virtually certain" to be available for his normal role. For Jacobs, that means he should get somewhere around 10 touches against the Dolphins. He'd likely need a goal-line TD to help you. Oct 28 - 4:35 PM
