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So there have been some conversations between the Jets and the Bears. No one thinks the Jets asked the Bears what they want for Cutler?
When a WR can't get open against man coverage it won't matter.Wouldn't having a run-heavy coach actually make it easier to pass, since defenses were obviously playing to stop the run, leaving WRs in man coverage>For those wondering what geno had to work with, it was not much. having a run heavy coach with a bad OC was not helpful, two players in two years with over 40 catches. i still dont think geno is the answer but marshall should be helpful as a legit #1 option.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/2013.htm(Kerley, Nelson and Hill)
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/2014.htm(Decker, Kerley and Harvin for half season)
Too bad the draft isn't still in New York. That would've made for some high drama and a lot of booing.Not to get too far off topic, but the Jets are clearly trying to upgrade their offense and many say the Jets take Mariotta at 6 or that is the place the Eagles trade up to get him at 6. This could be so FASCINATING on draft day with the Redskins at 5. The skins should trade back and get more picks. If anyone else wants to move up for Mariotta (especially someone not as far back as 20 like the Eagles), then the Skins have quite a bit of leverage.
Should the skins trade to anyone just to get some more picks and make sure the Eagles don't get Mariotta? Can they get even more from the Eagles than the Jets could so that the Jets can't simply take Mariotta themselves? Fascinating stuff really...glad the draft is in primetime.
>> Back to Marshall talk...
He will stomp him into the ground after 2 weeks of ineptness.Interesting to see how Marshall deals with Geno...
Oakland, Cleveland, Buffalo and Tennessee all seem worse?Can't land in a worse spot. This won't end well.
- Marshall owner.
If the Jets want a Franchise QB they wouldn't answer the phone if a team called who would want their guyNo but he could be part of a package to move upExcept Foles isn't worth the #6 pick.Nick Foles seems like a likely candidate in a draft day trade for the Jets #6 overall pick.Why? Is a good QB going to magically appear or do you think Gino can make a big jump?buy low on marshall and decker. something is brewing in NY.
Ithink mariota goes at 2 to someone maybe not Tennessee
I agree and I don't own himCan't land in a worse spot. This won't end well.
- Marshall owner.
If he is cheap, I would love to see him on the Panthers for a season or 2. But he aint going to be cheapi think its still funny people assume harvin is staying. that is a sure sign that someone really dont understand what is going on.
might fit well in carolina.If he is cheap, I would love to see him on the Panthers for a season or 2. But he aint going to be cheapi think its still funny people assume harvin is staying. that is a sure sign that someone really dont understand what is going on.
I would as well and I'd also take Cleveland over the Jets-due in large part to McCown and lack of comp for targets.I would take Oak and Carr over NY and Gino 100 times out of 100Oakland, Cleveland, Buffalo and Tennessee all seem worse?Can't land in a worse spot. This won't end well.
- Marshall owner.
Those 4 are actively seeking a real QB. The Jets aren't.Oakland, Cleveland, Buffalo and Tennessee all seem worse?Can't land in a worse spot. This won't end well.
- Marshall owner.
I certainly hope so. John Fox has no use for Cutler, he's a low scoring, lets play D kinda coach. That would certainly save the day.I hope they actually know something:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h 1 hour ago
Is the trade for WR Brandon Marshall a precursor to a trade by the Jets for QB Jay Cutler?
lolololololI hope they actually know something:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h 1 hour ago
Is the trade for WR Brandon Marshall a precursor to a trade by the Jets for QB Jay Cutler?
You in one sentence about fox said exactly why not being in chicago and going anywere else including nyj helps marshall fantasy wise.I certainly hope so. John Fox has no use for Cutler, he's a low scoring, lets play D kinda coach. That would certainly save the day.I hope they actually know something:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h 1 hour ago
Is the trade for WR Brandon Marshall a precursor to a trade by the Jets for QB Jay Cutler?
Fake news:Jets trade a 2016 5th round pick for Chad Henne and invite Brian Hartline for a visit as they try to recapture the glory of the 2010 Dolphins.Fake News: Marshall re-punctures own lung
It's good that he is away from Fox but this is the worst landing spot for FF owners of Marshall. Geno Stinks and he goes against Belicheck twice. IF Revis is there, look for nothing out of Marshall vs NE.You in one sentence about fox said exactly why not being in chicago and going anywere else including nyj helps marshall fantasy wise.I certainly hope so. John Fox has no use for Cutler, he's a low scoring, lets play D kinda coach. That would certainly save the day.I hope they actually know something:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h 1 hour ago
Is the trade for WR Brandon Marshall a precursor to a trade by the Jets for QB Jay Cutler?
football wise its great for nyj and i dont see how anyone can think this is a bad move for them i hope no one does.
SWC?since it is so depressing in here and this seems to be a down crowd. does anyone think this is the type of elite wr that geno needed? geno stinks but good players make bad players better. marshall is more physical than decker is a supreme route runner and is still a play maker. he had bad ankles and a punctured lung and a bad QB situation just like any work place animosity effects the result and cutler did not get along with the coaching staff. if we are talking value in the big picture does it really take such a hit. cutlers marginal success was because of marshall for most year now maybe marshall can help geno out. im not a marshall owner im just a jets fan.
If the Jets were interested in Cutler, why wouldn't they have just discussed adding him in the Marshall deal? Why would two teams making a trade today be a precursor to the same two teams making another trade?I certainly hope so. John Fox has no use for Cutler, he's a low scoring, lets play D kinda coach. That would certainly save the day.I hope they actually know something:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h 1 hour ago
Is the trade for WR Brandon Marshall a precursor to a trade by the Jets for QB Jay Cutler?
Now is a good time to buy Harvin at a discount. I highly doubt he stays in NY at that salary and he won't restructure to stay there. The deadline for them to make a move is March 19 based on draft pick compensation. Anywhere he signs as a FA will be an upgrade over what he has now and NE would be amazing for him.If he is cheap, I would love to see him on the Panthers for a season or 2. But he aint going to be cheapi think its still funny people assume harvin is staying. that is a sure sign that someone really dont understand what is going on.
Only thing I can think of is that they have other teams in the hunt for him.If the Jets were interested in Cutler, why wouldn't they have just discussed adding him in the Marshall deal? Why would two teams making a trade today be a precursor to the same two teams making another trade?I certainly hope so. John Fox has no use for Cutler, he's a low scoring, lets play D kinda coach. That would certainly save the day.I hope they actually know something:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h 1 hour ago
Is the trade for WR Brandon Marshall a precursor to a trade by the Jets for QB Jay Cutler?
This the Bears would have probably given the Jets Marshall to take Cutler. No one is trading for him most likely cut IMOIf the Jets were interested in Cutler, why wouldn't they have just discussed adding him in the Marshall deal? Why would two teams making a trade today be a precursor to the same two teams making another trade?I certainly hope so. John Fox has no use for Cutler, he's a low scoring, lets play D kinda coach. That would certainly save the day.I hope they actually know something:
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h 1 hour ago
Is the trade for WR Brandon Marshall a precursor to a trade by the Jets for QB Jay Cutler?
I don't think for a New York Minute that the Jets acquired Marshall to pair up with Smith.Interesting to see how Marshall deals with Geno...
Why are people assuming the Titans don't work a deal if there's one to be had?I was thinking the exact same thing. The football gods might be doing the Skins a favor, maybe feeling pity for them after the RG3 trade since Robert hasn't been the same since that injury. It would be awesome for them to get a boatload of picks for that 1.5. Crossing fingers as a life long Skins fan.Not to get too far off topic, but the Jets are clearly trying to upgrade their offense and many say the Jets take Mariotta at 6 or that is the place the Eagles trade up to get him at 6. This could be so FASCINATING on draft day with the Redskins at 5. The skins should trade back and get more picks. If anyone else wants to move up for Mariotta (especially someone not as far back as 20 like the Eagles), then the Skins have quite a bit of leverage.
Should the skins trade to anyone just to get some more picks and make sure the Eagles don't get Mariotta? Can they get even more from the Eagles than the Jets could so that the Jets can't simply take Mariotta themselves? Fascinating stuff really...glad the draft is in primetime.
>> Back to Marshall talk...
First thought we had here. Seems they like to follow each other.So there have been some conversations between the Jets and the Bears. No one thinks the Jets asked the Bears what they want for Cutler?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-marshall-bears-jets-rosenbloom-20150306-column.htmlI don’t care if Ryan Pace traded Brandon Marshall to the Jets for nothing more than a kiss from Joe Namath, that would be enough. Dumping Marshall was the point. Clearing his heavy baggage and divisive ways out of Halas Hall was the entire goal.
That the Bears rookie general manager reportedly got a mid-round draft pick in return for the embarrassing wide receiver is just a straight pantsing.
Give Pace a raise. Extend his contract. I don’t care that he just got here. Do you realize what he just did? Pace found a team stupid enough to give up something for a player the Bears were going to cut next week.
What’s more, the market is flooded with wide receivers, and this draft is stocked with them --- but yet Pace got something for Marshall that is more than just saving cash and salary cap space.
No wonder the Jets stink as a franchise. It’s like they hijacked Phil Emery’s stupid gas. Marshall has become more uncoachable and intolerable each year he has been a Bear. He is over 30, coming off injury, proven less productive, and has aliented half of Halas Hall, if not more. It got to the point that the coach couldn’t say Marshall ran the wrong pattern for fear that the wideout would spontaneously combust or something.
Marshsall was all kinds of loud, fake leadership. He has never been to the playoffs in his NFL career, and now he’s bringing his laughable act to one of the few teams last year’s horrible Bears were able too beat. Good luck with that.
The deal won’t be official until the league year begins Tuesday afternoon. The deal also cannot be official until Marshall passes a physical. Pray, Bears fans, that the Jets doctors are as lame as the front office.
If this goes through, Bears fans, you have every right to dream of big things under Pace. He knew Marshall was a bad actor who needed excising. He saw what a loser the guy is in a locker room setting.
Pace pretty much told everybody what he thought of Marshall when he said a team’s best players have to be its best leaders and that football has to be Priority No. 1.
Marshall is on record as saying that winning a Super Bowl is not his priority. Using the NFL as a platform for his causes is his priority. Some leader, huh?
Marshall also wants to continue appearing on “Inside the NFL,’’ and now he’ll be closer to the studio while remaining just as far from being a winner.
Friday became a great day for Pace the Bears. Now, double down, Ryan. See if the Jets are dumb enough to trade for Cutler.
It's in CHICAGO. DOn't worry, there will be booing.Too bad the draft isn't still in New York. That would've made for some high drama and a lot of booing.Not to get too far off topic, but the Jets are clearly trying to upgrade their offense and many say the Jets take Mariotta at 6 or that is the place the Eagles trade up to get him at 6. This could be so FASCINATING on draft day with the Redskins at 5. The skins should trade back and get more picks. If anyone else wants to move up for Mariotta (especially someone not as far back as 20 like the Eagles), then the Skins have quite a bit of leverage.
Should the skins trade to anyone just to get some more picks and make sure the Eagles don't get Mariotta? Can they get even more from the Eagles than the Jets could so that the Jets can't simply take Mariotta themselves? Fascinating stuff really...glad the draft is in primetime.
>> Back to Marshall talk...
I think the Titans grab Williams.Why are people assuming the Titans don't work a deal if there's one to be had?
maybe BM realizes some things are more important than football, while still giving his best effort.Steve Rosenbloom, Chicago Tribune:
Marshall is on record as saying that winning a Super Bowl is not his priority. Using the NFL as a platform for his causes is his priority. Some leader, huh?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-marshall-bears-jets-rosenbloom-20150306-column.html
Probably. But if there's a sweet deal on the table like they're talking about with Washington, they will probably drop down.I think the Titans grab Williams.Why are people assuming the Titans don't work a deal if there's one to be had?
Oh I know they'll be enough booing, I just meant with Jets fans thinking their taking Mariota at 6 and someone like the Eagles trading to 5 and grabbing him right before their pick. Radio City might have burned to the ground.It's in CHICAGO. DOn't worry, there will be booing.Too bad the draft isn't still in New York. That would've made for some high drama and a lot of booing.Not to get too far off topic, but the Jets are clearly trying to upgrade their offense and many say the Jets take Mariotta at 6 or that is the place the Eagles trade up to get him at 6. This could be so FASCINATING on draft day with the Redskins at 5. The skins should trade back and get more picks. If anyone else wants to move up for Mariotta (especially someone not as far back as 20 like the Eagles), then the Skins have quite a bit of leverage.
Should the skins trade to anyone just to get some more picks and make sure the Eagles don't get Mariotta? Can they get even more from the Eagles than the Jets could so that the Jets can't simply take Mariotta themselves? Fascinating stuff really...glad the draft is in primetime.
>> Back to Marshall talk...
I don't agree with a single thing in that article, it's like it's opposite day.Steve Rosenbloom, Chicago Tribune:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-marshall-bears-jets-rosenbloom-20150306-column.htmlI don’t care if Ryan Pace traded Brandon Marshall to the Jets for nothing more than a kiss from Joe Namath, that would be enough. Dumping Marshall was the point. Clearing his heavy baggage and divisive ways out of Halas Hall was the entire goal.
That the Bears rookie general manager reportedly got a mid-round draft pick in return for the embarrassing wide receiver is just a straight pantsing.
Give Pace a raise. Extend his contract. I don’t care that he just got here. Do you realize what he just did? Pace found a team stupid enough to give up something for a player the Bears were going to cut next week.
What’s more, the market is flooded with wide receivers, and this draft is stocked with them --- but yet Pace got something for Marshall that is more than just saving cash and salary cap space.
No wonder the Jets stink as a franchise. It’s like they hijacked Phil Emery’s stupid gas. Marshall has become more uncoachable and intolerable each year he has been a Bear. He is over 30, coming off injury, proven less productive, and has aliented half of Halas Hall, if not more. It got to the point that the coach couldn’t say Marshall ran the wrong pattern for fear that the wideout would spontaneously combust or something.
Marshsall was all kinds of loud, fake leadership. He has never been to the playoffs in his NFL career, and now he’s bringing his laughable act to one of the few teams last year’s horrible Bears were able too beat. Good luck with that.
The deal won’t be official until the league year begins Tuesday afternoon. The deal also cannot be official until Marshall passes a physical. Pray, Bears fans, that the Jets doctors are as lame as the front office.
If this goes through, Bears fans, you have every right to dream of big things under Pace. He knew Marshall was a bad actor who needed excising. He saw what a loser the guy is in a locker room setting.
Pace pretty much told everybody what he thought of Marshall when he said a team’s best players have to be its best leaders and that football has to be Priority No. 1.
Marshall is on record as saying that winning a Super Bowl is not his priority. Using the NFL as a platform for his causes is his priority. Some leader, huh?
Marshall also wants to continue appearing on “Inside the NFL,’’ and now he’ll be closer to the studio while remaining just as far from being a winner.
Friday became a great day for Pace the Bears. Now, double down, Ryan. See if the Jets are dumb enough to trade for Cutler.
Zilch. Put him to pasture with Cobb, Macklin, and Wayne.So he now has zero value?
Much like you can't brew a real beer without hops, you can't brew a real NFL offense without a quarterback.buy low on marshall and decker. something is brewing in NY.
Quarterbacks make receivers, not the other way around.Harvin, Marshall, Decker. If Geno can't get it done with all of that, beyond time to move on.
Bingo.I don't really think the way to build a franchise is with stud positional players. As great as guys like McCoy & Marshall are, I think they were both bad moves.
How often does Bill Belickick sign high priced WRs or RBs?