Braylon Edwards traded to the Jets (1 Viewer)

[Adebisi]

This comes shortly after Crabtree agrees with the Niners.More evidence that they were hoping to land him.

How were they hoping to land Crabtree when the deadline for dealing the rights to drafted players passed long ago?

I was wondering that myself during the "tampering" accusations.Could SF sign him under an agreement that says they immediately trade him to the Jets?

Sure, if they want his entire signing bonus to blow up their salary cap.

 

[chihawk]

Wonder what it means for Robieskie - he was supposed to be the impact rookie not Masso. I think people are getting too hyped on Mass -- He was single covered all game with the #2 corner. Without 17 it will be much diffferent

IMO this is probably a bad thing for Mass. BE was drawing the number one CBs (if not double teamed) since there weren't too many other playmakers on the Browns. Mass showed that he can make plays, but he now will probably get the attention that BE used to get...which as a rookie I don't think is a good thing.I like the move from BE's perspective. I think a new start with a better organization and better team will benefit him a great deal....and he doesn't have to worry about staph infections anymore...that's always a good thing.

 

[AB in DC]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.

Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

 

[runner06]

WOW...the Jets got ripped off.

How did they exactly get ripped off? They traded a 3rd, 5th, and two backups for a player who was a stud WR two seasons ago who is still very young. If he doesn't pan out, it's not that big of a deal because they only gave the Browns scraps to get him. If he turns it around, then they robbed the Browns. In my opinion, he was probably worth a 2nd and a 4th.

 

[MCguidance]

Can Sanchez even throw the long ball?

Yes.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

Problems:1) Edwards > Roy2) NYJ > Dal3) Sanchez > Romo4) Chambers did OK a few years back

 

[Banger]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

Problems:1) Edwards > Roy2) NYJ > Dal3) Sanchez > Romo4) Chambers did OK a few years back

AND most importantly he's moving to place where he knows the system.

 

[AcerFC]

Just had a Jet season ticket fan come into my classroom and tell me there is no way they arent going to the SB. Gotta love Jet fans

I told him Braylon would not have caught the two TDs that Stucky did and he said, no way he is going to be awesome.

 

[Reaper]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

Good thing they are almost identical.

 

[Casting Couch]

LOL... Bouncing between boards it's hard for me to tell who's more excited, Cleveland Fans or Jets fans....I'd say Jets fans are still skeptical not knowing the draft picks, maybe 80% Happy. so far saying:"THANK YOU Mangina for Sanchez and Edwards, he's done more for the Jets as a Cleveland coach" Hoping to get a Randy Moss type change of scenery.And I'm pretty sure Cleveland fans are 100% Happy just waiting to see the total Booty they get in return.

Evidently you haven't heard the news. Braylon is in his 5th year in the NFL, he's a bust.

 

[george]

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[Two Deep]

Great news for Cotchery, Edwards can take defenders long and clear out the underneath stuff.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Will there be a long term deal out of this?

Edwards is a FA next year (provided new CBA), so is trading for a rental player of 12 games worth that much?

 

[zamboni]

Bump up Keller. Another endzone threat will open up catches for him.

Actually, I think this hurts Keller, at least from a fantasy perspective.The primary reason he was viewed as a sleeper with great upside is the lack of WR threats heading into the season. With Cotch having elevated his game and Edwards likely to be integrated meaningfully once he gets acclimated to the offensive scheme, that could mean fewer targets for Keller.

 

[massraider]

Will there be a long term deal out of this?Edwards is a FA next year (provided new CBA), so is trading for a rental player of 12 games worth that much?

No one thinks there will be a CBA, plus they have the franchise tag. Edwards is only leaving if the Jets want to let him go.

 

[amnesiac]

Didn't the conventional thought use to be that Edwards was actually a high character guy?

First you get reports that he was with Stallworth and then this latest incident. What the heck happened?

You hold that against Edwards? Seriously?

Could have just as easily been him. I'm think I'm safe saying Braylon wasn't the DD.

So if a group of guys get together and party, and one of them drives home drunk, then it's safe to assume that they all drove home drunk? Is this the line of thinking here?

Yes it is out of line thinking. You are right. But if I'm going to make an assumption in this case, knowing that Braylon likes to get his party on in town here, that's the side I'm going to assume on. Not looking for a pissing match here, just my opinion on the matter.

i remember reading the story that said Braylon stayed at the hotel that night. so it didn't happen that night at least.

 

[Native]

Jets fans have to love how aggressive their FO is being.

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Will there be a long term deal out of this?

Edwards is a FA next year (provided new CBA), so is trading for a rental player of 12 games worth that much?

No one thinks there will be a CBA, plus they have the franchise tag. Edwards is only leaving if the Jets want to let him go.

This is the opposite of what I have read/heard.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

Problems:1) Edwards > Roy2) NYJ > Dal3) Sanchez > Romo4) Chambers did OK a few years back

1. Better at dropping passes, sure. Other than that I would say Roy was regarded a LOT more highly at the time he was traded than Edwards is now.2) Dallas was considered an elite team at the time they traded for Roy. The Jets got off to a hot start, and they (and especially their offense) came crashing down to Earth last week. I would certainly be a LOT less surprised to see them play mediocre the rest of the year than most people were to see Dallas do the same after the way they started last year.3) Again, Romo was considered an elite quarterback at the time of the Roy trade. Sanchez is a rookie off to a hot start and once again, I think people would be much less surprised to see him come back down to Earth this year than they would have been to see Romo do the same last year. Besides, Romo threw for 3500/26 in only 13 games last year. Do you really think Sanchez is going to touch those numbers even if he plays all 16 this year? Highly, highly unlikely.4) 555 yards and 4 TDs in 10 games for Chambers after the 07 trade, not exactly WR2 material, maybe WR3. And that was from a guy that was averaging 80 yards receiving per game that year before the trade, not someone who had been completely inept prior to the trade a la Edwards.

 

[Bobcat10]

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

I'm sorry that you know nothing about the Browns.

 

[eoMMan]

How does the Jets offense compare to the Browns offense?

Are they both considered West Coast?

How hard would it be for Braylon to pick it up?

 

[Jason Wood]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

They are VERY similar. Remember Brian Schottenheimer was the Jets OC under Mangini, too, and Browns OC Brian Daboll brought along his own version of the same playbook. Not saying that means Edwards is going to light the world on fire, but the lack of understanding of the playbook won't be a reason to avoid him.

 

[Bobcat10]

How does the Jets offense compare to the Browns offense?Are they both considered West Coast?How hard would it be for Braylon to pick it up?

One or two Jets fans in here are saying they are very close.Daboll did come with Mangini from the Jets, but he was not OC there.

 

[massraider]

As a reluctant Braylon owner in two leagues, this is a good thing for his fantasy prospects. I am doubtful he returns to 2007 levels, but he simply has to be happier, right? Ecstatic, more likely.

You may have to wait a few weeks before you put him in your lineup, but that's a wash, because in CLE, he probably should not have been in your lineup every week anyway. At least this way, you won't be tempted.

I think this hurts Cotchery, and Keller maybe a little. Cotch will have fewer plays where he is the number #1 option. Not sure I buy this about Braylon drawing coverage away from everyone. It's been 20 games since he was dangerous, I'm not sure how scared other defenses are.

I think the CLE situation is much tougher to get a hand on. Is Massaquoi the guy, or just Frisman Jackson? Will Robiskie get more PT? Stuckey is a guy I'd keep an eye on, and grab in dynasty if I could. Furrey will probably be a nice emergency starter for the next few weeks.

I really don't buy the notion that Mass will suddenly face double teams, and the other teams best CB. Any one know how rare that is, for a CB to just cover ONE guy? I really don't know if he is the #1 guy or not, but he had a big game, and they traded their previous #1 guy. Not sure how anyone can let him sit on the waiver wire.

 

[Native]

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

I'm sorry that you know nothing about the Browns.

Care to elaborate? What am I missing?

 

[Reaper]

How does the Jets offense compare to the Browns offense?Are they both considered West Coast?How hard would it be for Braylon to pick it up?

The Browns OC is the Jets QB coach from last year with little to no experience at all running an offense..I wouldn't be surprised if it's almost identical.

 

[massraider]

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

I'm sorry that you know nothing about the Browns.

Care to elaborate? What am I missing?

They got a 3rd and a 5th and two role players for a stiff.he might not be a stiff in NY, but that doesn't do CLE any good. They weren't ever going to see 2007 Braylon again, they traded 2008 Braylon for that price.

 

[footballnerd]

Wow. 4 pages of comments in an hr.

 

[Reaper]

As a reluctant Braylon owner in two leagues, this is a good thing for his fantasy prospects. I am doubtful he returns to 2007 levels, but he simply has to be happier, right? Ecstatic, more likely.

I think he has to be an immediate #1 Red Zone target and IMO he's been a pretty good guy in jump ball situations... He was against the Jets the few times they played.For the Jets that's exactly what they lacked.

 

[Bobcat10]

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

I'm sorry that you know nothing about the Browns.

Care to elaborate? What am I missing?

Braylon has brought zero to the table, or field, since his one good season. It's very well known that he was not happy here and was looking forward to 2010. That has made him lazy among other things....basically more dead weight than worth. And no matter what Mangini has said about Braylon since he was named coach, you just know Braylon isn't his type of guy and would not want to resign him. Getting anything for him, even just a 2nd day pick, would seem worth it for the Browns, imo of course. With the Browns going nowhere this year, it makes even more sense.

 

[NYRAGE]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.

Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

Problems:1) Edwards > Roy

2) NYJ > Dal

3) Sanchez > Romo

4) Chambers did OK a few years back

1. Better at dropping passes, sure. Other than that I would say Roy was regarded a LOT more highly at the time he was traded than Edwards is now.2) Dallas was considered an elite team at the time they traded for Roy. The Jets got off to a hot start, and they (and especially their offense) came crashing down to Earth last week. I would certainly be a LOT less surprised to see them play mediocre the rest of the year than most people were to see Dallas do the same after the way they started last year.

3) Again, Romo was considered an elite quarterback at the time of the Roy trade. Sanchez is a rookie off to a hot start and once again, I think people would be much less surprised to see him come back down to Earth this year than they would have been to see Romo do the same last year. Besides, Romo threw for 3500/26 in only 13 games last year. Do you really think Sanchez is going to touch those numbers even if he plays all 16 this year? Highly, highly unlikely.

4) 555 yards and 4 TDs in 10 games for Chambers after the 07 trade, not exactly WR2 material, maybe WR3. And that was from a guy that was averaging 80 yards receiving per game that year before the trade, not someone who had been completely inept prior to the trade a la Edwards.

Sounds like a nice dream as a Fins fan, but I have a feeling it will be a nightmare for you Monday night.

 

[TLEF316]

The Jets got off to a hot start, and they (and especially their offense) came crashing down to Earth last week.

Crashing down to earth? A rookie QB makes 2 big mistakes and a defense (missing their # 2 and 3 CB's and their best pash rusher) limits the best offense in football to 10 points on the road. It happens. If you think thats "crashing down to earth", I imagine you'll be a tad surprised monday night.

 

[drdgreenlove]

Braylon will be a good addition to the Jets team. He may not be a good fantasy player. Its unrealistic to have high hopes for a WR traded mid season to a team with a rookie QB. I would try to trade Braylon today because he won't produce for several weeks and his value will decline. He hasn't been a good start in Fantasy Football and becomes worse now... This does help Sanchez in fantasy because he has a higher chance of long TD passes.

 

[B-Deep]

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

I'm sorry that you know nothing about the Browns.

Care to elaborate? What am I missing?

Braylon has brought zero to the table, or field, since his one good season. It's very well known that he was not happy here and was looking forward to 2010. That has made him lazy among other things....basically more dead weight than worth. And no matter what Mangini has said about Braylon since he was named coach, you just know Braylon isn't his type of guy and would not want to resign him. Getting anything for him, even just a 2nd day pick, would seem worth it for the Browns, imo of course. With the Browns going nowhere this year, it makes even more sense.

kinda makes the browns look foolish for not trading him before the season, no?

 

[Breesisdaman]

From a fantasy standpoint this has to be a bump for Braylons value. Right? Snanchez is certainly and upgrade at QB over Quinn and Anderson.

 

[Pictus Cat]

I am in the camp that thinks Edwards finds new life in New York. The guy has immense skills, but had become worthless as he was doubled every game. I think this will open up the Jets attack a lot as the season moves forward. Although Mass now becomes the #1 in Cleveland, it feels like a bad situation for him in my opinion. This Cleveland team looks like it's going to be a mess the rest of the year. Mass, Stuckey, Robiskie and Cribbs? What defense is going to fear this unit?

I agree. How could this make Braylon worse? It's just a matter of how big a bump he gets.

 

[cstu]

Luckily NY doesn't have any good basketball players so there won't be any rivalry to be concerned with there.

 

[TLEF316]

Luckily NY doesn't have any good basketball players so there won't be any rivalry to be concerned with there.

i think someone already made that joke.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Wow...if all it takes to get traded out of Cleveland is to issue one of LeBron's toadies a beatdown you can be sure Grady Sizemore is driving all over NE Ohio looking for LeBron's wheelman.

Edwards needed a change of scenery. He will be money for the Jets.

 

[Doug B]

From a fantasy standpoint this has to be a bump for Braylons value. Right? Snanchez is certainly and upgrade at QB over Quinn and Anderson.

I'm looking forward more to 2010 for Sanchez & Edwards. ISTM that once he goes through a full offseason, OTAs, and camp ... Edwards can "out-talent" Cotchery for that real-life WR1 spot on the Jets.

 

[B-Deep]

Luckily NY doesn't have any good basketball players so there won't be any rivalry to be concerned with there.

i think someone already made that joke.

how bout this oneluckily in NY he won't party as much, since he'll have trouble catching a cab...

 

[Bobcat10]

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

I'm sorry that you know nothing about the Browns.

Care to elaborate? What am I missing?

Braylon has brought zero to the table, or field, since his one good season. It's very well known that he was not happy here and was looking forward to 2010. That has made him lazy among other things....basically more dead weight than worth. And no matter what Mangini has said about Braylon since he was named coach, you just know Braylon isn't his type of guy and would not want to resign him. Getting anything for him, even just a 2nd day pick, would seem worth it for the Browns, imo of course. With the Browns going nowhere this year, it makes even more sense.

kinda makes the browns look foolish for not trading him before the season, no?

Depends on what they might have been offered and what they believed they had (a chance?) going into the season. Someone is bound to bring up the Giants again here, but I'm pretty sure if the Giants took any Browns offer, or made a good enough counter that the Browns liked, then Braylon would have been gone prior to the draft. I just don't think the Giants were as serious about Braylon as some have made it. So overall I disagree with your statement, I don't think there has been much of a market for Braylon.

 

[wudaben]

I love how everyone rationalizes their negative statements by saying the guy cannot catch. Let's put this in perspective... in 2008 Braylon led the league in drops w/ 16 but also on that list were: Bowe 13, Marshall 12, Owens 10, C Johnson 9, R White 9 and in 2007 Marshall led the league w/ 15 and 2006 was Owens w/ 17. Those guys all suck too correct?? At Michigan the guy broke all kinds of Michigan and Big Ten records but he couldn't catch then either?

Let's just remember that Cleveland was a mess the whole time Braylon was there and he showed his potential in the one season where they were not a horrible trainwreck and I'm sure that his work ethic and focus were not great the past two years but I think this change of scenery will be very good for him and the Jets!

 

[cstu]

Didn't the conventional thought use to be that Edwards was actually a high character guy?First you get reports that he was with Stallworth and then this latest incident. What the heck happened?

I haven't seen anything to question his character, but just a guy who has had some bad luck and made a couple mistakes. In 4 years in the league he has punched someone one, driven 120mph and drank at a club with a guy who later killed someone with his car. I made a lot more mistakes that that when I was his age and I wasn't a multimillionaire celebrity.

 

[B-Deep]

I love how everyone rationalizes their negative statements by saying the guy cannot catch. Let's put this in perspective... in 2008 Braylon led the league in drops w/ 16 but also on that list were: Bowe 13, Marshall 12, Owens 10, C Johnson 9, R White 9 and in 2007 Marshall led the league w/ 15 and 2006 was Owens w/ 17. Those guys all suck too correct?? At Michigan the guy broke all kinds of Michigan and Big Ten records but he couldn't catch then either?Let's just remember that Cleveland was a mess the whole time Braylon was there and he showed his potential in the one season where they were not a horrible trainwreck and I'm sure that his work ethic and focus were not great the past two years but I think this change of scenery will be very good for him and the Jets!

at michigan he made great catches and dropped easy ones, all the time

 

[Multiple Scores]

Can Sanchez even throw the long ball?

Yes.Bump Sanchez up your dynasty rankings!

 

[Native]

As a Brownies fan, Im sorry that you were once again shafted. A 3rd and 5th and two role players? Eric Mangini is one obstinate individual.

I'm sorry that you know nothing about the Browns.

Care to elaborate? What am I missing?

Braylon has brought zero to the table, or field, since his one good season. It's very well known that he was not happy here and was looking forward to 2010. That has made him lazy among other things....basically more dead weight than worth. And no matter what Mangini has said about Braylon since he was named coach, you just know Braylon isn't his type of guy and would not want to resign him. Getting anything for him, even just a 2nd day pick, would seem worth it for the Browns, imo of course. With the Browns going nowhere this year, it makes even more sense.

Im simply talking about the value he ought to generate in the market. Hes a young, talented WR who caught 16 TD's not too long ago. Its as if they waited until his value reached its absolute lowest point and then decided to trade him. And its not like this trade came as a huge surprise - hes been on the block for a long time and Id bet my house they had better offers for him six months ago. Why not trade him before the draft if the plan was to select two WR's on the first day? Why not trade him in the offseason, after its clear that Massaquoi is the real deal? Even the Lions got a 1st and 3rd out of Roy Williams (in midseason no less) - a comparable player with regards to NFL production in that he had one great year, boatloads of potential and little else. Didnt mean to pile on or disrespect the team - sorry if my post came across as crass. Just commenting on what I perceive to be less than adequate compensation for a 26 year old player in a league hungry for #1 WR's.

 

[Bobcat10]

I still think this is a good trade for the Jets assuming he can get the offense soon. The drops are a bit overrated if you are producing, see Braylon 2007. It's not like he caught everything in his sights that season. Definitely a good change of scenery possibility. Braylon has talent.

 

[AB in DC]

Unless the CLE & NYJ offenses are almost identical, Edwards has basically zero fantasy value for the rest of the year. There's no way he'll know enough of the playbook to be effective.Think Roy Williams to Dallas last year, except with a rookie QB.

They are VERY similar. Remember Brian Schottenheimer was the Jets OC under Mangini, too, and Browns OC Brian Daboll brought along his own version of the same playbook. Not saying that means Edwards is going to light the world on fire, but the lack of understanding of the playbook won't be a reason to avoid him.

OK, that definitely helps. I agree with whoever suggested Chris Chambers as a better example (including both player's complete inability to catch the football) -- maybe a borderline fantasy WR3 for the second half. The problem is that Cotchery is better than whoever SD had as WR#1, and the SD offense as a whole was a lot better, so Edwards probably won't get the same number of opportunities.

 

[superbeck1]

Braylon will be a good addition to the Jets team. He may not be a good fantasy player. Its unrealistic to have high hopes for a WR traded mid season to a team with a rookie QB. I would try to trade Braylon today because he won't produce for several weeks and his value will decline. He hasn't been a good start in Fantasy Football and becomes worse now... This does help Sanchez in fantasy because he has a higher chance of long TD passes.

Wait a minute. How exactly does BE come a fantasy football nightmare but Sanchez get help for the long TD opportunities? This defies logic.....I could see BE being a low performer but a better red zone target for Sanchez but he cant be a bust and improve on the long ball.