Braylon Edwards Value (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.

What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster.

Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?

If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

 

[eefflrat]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster. Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

lot of looks, no comments.Is there another thread that talks about this, I feel like I am being shunned

 

[Londo]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.

What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster.

Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?

If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

lot of looks, no comments.Is there another thread that talks about this, I feel like I am being shunned

Lot's of talk about his value in this thread

 

[5Rings]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster. Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

I think last year was a fluke and even in Cleveland, he's a legit WR1 this year because a) Cleveland is terrible, will be throwing all the time, especially in garbage time (entire 2nd half?) and b) who else will get the targets in Cleveland without KW2 or a WR2?I'm probably in the minority 'cause I think his value declines if he goes to NY.

 

[FUBAR]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster. Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

I think last year was a fluke and even in Cleveland, he's a legit WR1 this year because a) Cleveland is terrible, will be throwing all the time, especially in garbage time (entire 2nd half?) and b) who else will get the targets in Cleveland without KW2 or a WR2?I'm probably in the minority 'cause I think his value declines if he goes to NY.

I'm not sure if you're in the minority, but I disagree. I'll take Eli over Quinn or DA, and despite the Giants being a running team, they did throw for 3k/23 last year. If Braylon's there, I think he has some huge games, but also some stinkers. If he stays in Cleveland, they'll have to throw to him more but they don't have the offense to put up a big game too often. More garbage time in Cleveland, more TDs in the game plan in NY. Just my

 

[5Rings]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.

What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster.

Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?

If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

I think last year was a fluke and even in Cleveland, he's a legit WR1 this year because a) Cleveland is terrible, will be throwing all the time, especially in garbage time (entire 2nd half?) and b) who else will get the targets in Cleveland without KW2 or a WR2?I'm probably in the minority 'cause I think his value declines if he goes to NY.

I'm not sure if you're in the minority, but I disagree. I'll take Eli over Quinn or DA, and despite the Giants being a running team, they did throw for 3k/23 last year. If Braylon's there, I think he has some huge games, but also some stinkers. If he stays in Cleveland, they'll have to throw to him more but they don't have the offense to put up a big game too often. More garbage time in Cleveland, more TDs in the game plan in NY. Just my

I'll buy that. Say CLE: 90-1200-6, and NY: 70-1050-11 look about right?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster. Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

I think last year was a fluke and even in Cleveland, he's a legit WR1 this year because a) Cleveland is terrible, will be throwing all the time, especially in garbage time (entire 2nd half?) and b) who else will get the targets in Cleveland without KW2 or a WR2?I'm probably in the minority 'cause I think his value declines if he goes to NY.

Edwards and Cleveland didnt accomplish anything in "garbage time" last year with KW2 and Stallworth, so what leads you to believe that will change this year?Last year Cleveland got beat by 14 points or more in 6 of their 12 losses, and it was a terrible year for Edwards.I don't see how things get any better for Edwards this year when you take away more of the weapons surrounding Edwards. I think it is more wishful thinking on your part that they will be good in garbage time this year, cause at the end of last year, the Cleveland Browns offense did not score a TD in their last 6 games.

 

[5Rings]

Edwards and Cleveland didnt accomplish anything in "garbage time" last year with KW2 and Stallworth, so what leads you to believe that will change this year?

Last year Cleveland got beat by 14 points or more in 6 of their 12 losses, and it was a terrible year for Edwards.

I don't see how things get any better for Edwards this year when you take away more of the weapons surrounding Edwards.

I think it is more wishful thinking on your part that they will be good in garbage time this year, cause at the end of last year, the Cleveland Browns offense did not score a TD in their last 6 games.

You don't think Quinn/Anderson/any live body is an improvement over Duck Dorsey at QB? Seriously? I hear the Browns had Kosar ready to go in week 16 with all the injuries they had.Hey, I'm probably wrong, but the combination of improved QB play, more targets, and a return to form by Edwards should mean a huge improvement over last year's numbers. Or, like you said, nothing will change and he'll suck again. We'll see.

 

[FUBAR]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.

What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster.

Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?

If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

I think last year was a fluke and even in Cleveland, he's a legit WR1 this year because a) Cleveland is terrible, will be throwing all the time, especially in garbage time (entire 2nd half?) and b) who else will get the targets in Cleveland without KW2 or a WR2?I'm probably in the minority 'cause I think his value declines if he goes to NY.

I'm not sure if you're in the minority, but I disagree. I'll take Eli over Quinn or DA, and despite the Giants being a running team, they did throw for 3k/23 last year. If Braylon's there, I think he has some huge games, but also some stinkers. If he stays in Cleveland, they'll have to throw to him more but they don't have the offense to put up a big game too often. More garbage time in Cleveland, more TDs in the game plan in NY. Just my

I'll buy that. Say CLE: 90-1200-6, and NY: 70-1050-11 look about right?

He stays in Cleveland, I don't see better than 80/1200/6 (roughly 176 points)He goes to the Giants, I can see him hitting 70/1100/16 (roughly 221 points)

 

[fridayfrenzy]

He stays in Cleveland, I don't see better than 80/1200/6 (roughly 176 points)

He goes to the Giants, I can see him hitting 70/1100/16 (roughly 221 points)

Most Plax ever had in NYG was 12 TDs.

 

[cstu]

He stays in Cleveland, I don't see better than 80/1200/6 (roughly 176 points)

He goes to the Giants, I can see him hitting 70/1100/16 (roughly 221 points)

Most Plax ever had in NYG was 12 TDs.

Can I go out on a limb here and say that Edwards is better than Burress?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster. Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

Bray had four different QBs throwing him the ball last year, two of whom are out of the league today and probably won't ever be in the league again.As far as what to expect if he were to land in The Big Apple?Just look at his three best games last year.- His best game. Week six on MONDAY NIGHT against the Giants in one of the four games the Browns won 35-14 He had 5 catches for 154 yards and one of his two TDs. - His second best game, week 11 against Buffalo on MONDAY NIGHT in another Browns rare win. 29-27 He had 8 catches for 104 yards, no scores.- His third best game MONDAY NIGHT week 15 against the 'Iggles' in a loss 30-10 He had 5 catches for 102 yards, no score.See a pattern?He LOVES the spotlight.Braylon would blow up in the Big Apple. The Giants should pounce on him if they can get him.

 

[RC94]

In the Shark Pool mock we just started, BAL traded for Edwards. What do you guys think of Edwards' fantasy value if he goes to BAL instead of staying in CLE or getting traded to NYG?

 

[Londo]

In the Shark Pool mock we just started, BAL traded for Edwards. What do you guys think of Edwards' fantasy value if he goes to BAL instead of staying in CLE or getting traded to NYG?

In my estimation, Braylon's value in each of the respective cities in play is:New York>Baltimore>Cleveland

 

[mlball77]

While I'm not a huge Eli fan, he is definitely upgrade over anything the Browns had playing at QB last year. Further, the NYG running game would probably afford Edwards more single coverage than he has seen in the last two years. I think if he plays for the Giants this year that he could probably produce 1200 and 9-10.

 

[Loomba]

Do we like Braylon over Antonio Bryant for next season?

I do. Bryant will come back down some without Garcia there. Bryant can only improve, even if he stays in Cleveland. New York would be a huge boost to his value methinks.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster. Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

Bray had four different QBs throwing him the ball last year, two of whom are out of the league today and probably won't ever be in the league again.As far as what to expect if he were to land in The Big Apple?Just look at his three best games last year.- His best game. Week six on MONDAY NIGHT against the Giants in one of the four games the Browns won 35-14 He had 5 catches for 154 yards and one of his two TDs. - His second best game, week 11 against Buffalo on MONDAY NIGHT in another Browns rare win. 29-27 He had 8 catches for 104 yards, no scores.- His third best game MONDAY NIGHT week 15 against the 'Iggles' in a loss 30-10 He had 5 catches for 102 yards, no score.See a pattern?He LOVES the spotlight.Braylon would blow up in the Big Apple. The Giants should pounce on him if they can get him.

So he intentionally drops the ball in daylight?

 

[cstu]

So he intentionally drops the ball in daylight?

Do you remember Randy Moss in Oakland?

 

[Bills_Fan11]

So he intentionally drops the ball in daylight?

Do you remember Randy Moss in Oakland?

Yes. I can't pretend to have watched all of his games but I thought the consensus was that he was running at half speed because he didn't care; as opposed to working to get open on every play and dropping a ton of balls.

 

[Tanner9919]

I see the staff average rankings have Braylon ranked 13th...I am wondering if these rankings consider Braylon in Cleveland or in NY.What could you expect from a trade to NY? Plax had 3 good years with Eli before last year's disaster. Would it be wrong to think Braylon could get 80 catches 1200 yards and 10 TD's as a Giant, considering he has the pedigree, and is just one year removed from even better than that production?If so, would that move him from borderline WR1 to clear WR1 with that potential?

Bray had four different QBs throwing him the ball last year, two of whom are out of the league today and probably won't ever be in the league again.As far as what to expect if he were to land in The Big Apple?Just look at his three best games last year.- His best game. Week six on MONDAY NIGHT against the Giants in one of the four games the Browns won 35-14 He had 5 catches for 154 yards and one of his two TDs. - His second best game, week 11 against Buffalo on MONDAY NIGHT in another Browns rare win. 29-27 He had 8 catches for 104 yards, no scores.- His third best game MONDAY NIGHT week 15 against the 'Iggles' in a loss 30-10 He had 5 catches for 102 yards, no score.See a pattern?He LOVES the spotlight.Braylon would blow up in the Big Apple. The Giants should pounce on him if they can get him.

you've hit the nail on the head..this guy l-o-v-e-s the spotlight..he's going to thrive in NY( if traded here)..last year was a fluke...the Brownies threw in the towel early on after a slow start, and never recovered from it..The dropped passes were part of that..Edwards will be a top 5 WR if he plays in NY...

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

 

[ebcpastor2004]

Anybody else see this Rotoworld blurb? I didn't notice it on the 1st three pages & didn't see it in a search. I thought I'd bump this thread since it is about a NY team, just not the Giants.

(Rotoworld) Browns beat writer Tony Grossi suggests that Braylon Edwards could still be traded to the Jets, with Thomas Jones coming to Cleveland.

Analysis: It's unclear if Grossi is basing this on inside information or merely adding two and two together to come up with 22, though he did boast: "You heard it here first." Even with Edwards pushing for a massive contract extension, he carries quite a bit more trade value than Jones does.

Actual quote

Hey, Tony: Thomas Jones is unhappy with the Jets and last season put up Pro Bowl numbers including 1,300 yards and 13 TDs. The Jets drafted Shonn Greene and already have Leon Washington. Any chance the Jets release Jones and he becomes the next Cleveland Jet? A two-headed monster pounding the rock in Cleveland would be a welcome sight. -- Aaron Howell, Canton.

Hey, Aaron: Rex Ryan knows that Mangini would scoop up Jones in a New York second if Jones were released. More likely is a future trade involving Jones and, yes, Edwards. You heard it here first.

Article link- http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...swers_y_42.htmlSo, what would his value be as a Jet? Any thoughts?

 

[The Man With No Name]

Anybody else see this Rotoworld blurb? I didn't notice it on the 1st three pages & didn't see it in a search. I thought I'd bump this thread since it is about a NY team, just not the Giants.

(Rotoworld) Browns beat writer Tony Grossi suggests that Braylon Edwards could still be traded to the Jets, with Thomas Jones coming to Cleveland.

Analysis: It's unclear if Grossi is basing this on inside information or merely adding two and two together to come up with 22, though he did boast: "You heard it here first." Even with Edwards pushing for a massive contract extension, he carries quite a bit more trade value than Jones does.

Actual quote

Hey, Tony: Thomas Jones is unhappy with the Jets and last season put up Pro Bowl numbers including 1,300 yards and 13 TDs. The Jets drafted Shonn Greene and already have Leon Washington. Any chance the Jets release Jones and he becomes the next Cleveland Jet? A two-headed monster pounding the rock in Cleveland would be a welcome sight. -- Aaron Howell, Canton.

Hey, Aaron: Rex Ryan knows that Mangini would scoop up Jones in a New York second if Jones were released. More likely is a future trade involving Jones and, yes, Edwards. You heard it here first.

Article link- http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...swers_y_42.htmlSo, what would his value be as a Jet? Any thoughts?

ManKock are out of their minds if they trade Edwards for Jones straight up.

 

[cstu]

ManKock are out of their minds if they trade Edwards for Jones straight up.

TJ will be cut at the end of the season and they've already drafted his replacement. No need to keep him when they can add good WR.

 

[massraider]

ManKock are out of their minds if they trade Edwards for Jones straight up.

TJ will be cut at the end of the season and they've already drafted his replacement. No need to keep him when they can add good WR.

Right. I think he means the Browns would be getting the worst of the deal.Frankly, I am doubtful that Braylon goes anywhere. Once the draft is over, it's real tough to move top players. And if he couldn't get moved to a New York team during the draft, why would it be easier now that Nicks, Barden, and Maclin are there? He is still a malcontent, that has an expiring contract.

 

[az_prof]

He stays in Cleveland, I don't see better than 80/1200/6 (roughly 176 points)

He goes to the Giants, I can see him hitting 70/1100/16 (roughly 221 points)

Most Plax ever had in NYG was 12 TDs.

Can I go out on a limb here and say that Edwards is better than Burress?

You can say it, but there isn't much evidence to support it.

 

[cstu]

ManKock are out of their minds if they trade Edwards for Jones straight up.

TJ will be cut at the end of the season and they've already drafted his replacement. No need to keep him when they can add good WR.

Right. I think he means the Browns would be getting the worst of the deal.Frankly, I am doubtful that Braylon goes anywhere. Once the draft is over, it's real tough to move top players. And if he couldn't get moved to a New York team during the draft, why would it be easier now that Nicks, Barden, and Maclin are there? He is still a malcontent, that has an expiring contract.

For some reason I was thinking Mangini was still coaching the Jets.I think the Giants are out of the question now, but the Jets are short on receivers and probably wouldn't mind trading one malcontent for another if they think it'll make them a better team. On the face of it, the Browns would be getting the shaft but it seems like the market is really low for Braylon and I think they might just take whatever they can get for him. There's really no point in them keeping him and even though Jones is near the end of his career at least he can help them this year.

 

[cstu]

He stays in Cleveland, I don't see better than 80/1200/6 (roughly 176 points)

He goes to the Giants, I can see him hitting 70/1100/16 (roughly 221 points)

Most Plax ever had in NYG was 12 TDs.

Can I go out on a limb here and say that Edwards is better than Burress?

You can say it, but there isn't much evidence to support it.

Burress had one top 10 WR season in his career (#8) and never had more than 7 TD's his first 6 seasons. Edwards actually seems to be mirroring Burress' career quite well (not a good thing), but he has had a 16 TD season (#3 WR) which I think puts him ahead of Burress at comparable stages in their careers.

 

[FUBAR]

Anybody else see this Rotoworld blurb? I didn't notice it on the 1st three pages & didn't see it in a search. I thought I'd bump this thread since it is about a NY team, just not the Giants.

(Rotoworld) Browns beat writer Tony Grossi suggests that Braylon Edwards could still be traded to the Jets, with Thomas Jones coming to Cleveland.

Analysis: It's unclear if Grossi is basing this on inside information or merely adding two and two together to come up with 22, though he did boast: "You heard it here first." Even with Edwards pushing for a massive contract extension, he carries quite a bit more trade value than Jones does.

Actual quote

Hey, Tony: Thomas Jones is unhappy with the Jets and last season put up Pro Bowl numbers including 1,300 yards and 13 TDs. The Jets drafted Shonn Greene and already have Leon Washington. Any chance the Jets release Jones and he becomes the next Cleveland Jet? A two-headed monster pounding the rock in Cleveland would be a welcome sight. -- Aaron Howell, Canton.

Hey, Aaron: Rex Ryan knows that Mangini would scoop up Jones in a New York second if Jones were released. More likely is a future trade involving Jones and, yes, Edwards. You heard it here first.

Article link- http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...swers_y_42.htmlSo, what would his value be as a Jet? Any thoughts?

Is TJ even an upgrade from Lewis? I suppose Mangina can want his own player, but I didn't realize TJ was his guy.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

And if he couldn't get moved to a New York team during the draft, why would it be easier now that Nicks, Barden, and Maclin are there?

Maclin is on Philly, not a NY team

 

[ebcpastor2004]

And if he couldn't get moved to a New York team during the draft, why would it be easier now that Nicks, Barden, and Maclin are there?

Maclin is on Philly, not a NY team

Ande we're talking NY Jets, not NY Giants- the ones who drafted Nicks & Barden.