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[Nathan R. Jessep]

Nothing to add: just killing time waiting for the next random thought that pops into SacBob's head.

One thing I didn't get was why did Walt (and Skyler) leave all that money under the house? Pretty sure I would have taken it with me or at least stashed it in a bus depot locker or something.

OHH! Thank you for reminding me of the one other thing I was wondering about.The two goons Walt killed in the lab were not the same goons who were chasing Walt in his house (I went back to confirm).So the two goons from the house are still out there. Once they find out Gus and Tyrus are dead, they won't still come hard after Walt?

I noticed and thought the same thing, but then thought "who's gonna pay em??" They are probably in Mexico by now.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Well clearly, they need money at this point. BUT...They don't have a lab to cook in, and don't have the capital to get it going again. I'm sure the car wash will go under soon since they don't have all of the illegal $ coming in. That coudl be the red flag that actually tips Hank off (i.e. it was doing great, then all of a sudden it's bankrupt). My guess is that alot of the last season will be Walt just trying whatever he can to clear up his mess (money, tie to Gus, Jessie, Saul, marriage, etc).

I'm probably 100% wrong though, I always suck at predicting these things

Walt could say Skylar lent her ex-boss all/most of their cash to bail him out, but then that would bring her and Ted as well into the whole investigation, since he's "arguably" dead.

 

[The Gator]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

The employees at the laundry could tell him about Walt and Jessie pulling the fire alarm and telling them to "vamanos" before the explosion. That would certainly raise suspicions.

That and all the video Gus had around there just sitting on his laptop.

 

[Daywalker]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

The employees at the laundry could tell him about Walt and Jessie pulling the fire alarm and telling them to "vamanos" before the explosion. That would certainly raise suspicions.

That and all the video Gus had around there just sitting on his laptop.

Mike might have some chores to do.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Lastly, a comment and a question, then I'll stop hogging the thread.I agree that Gus's face looked ridiculously fake after the explosion. Go back and pause it; it's comical. The makeup artist should be fired.The question: I can't figure out why Tyrus was at the DEA office when Hector was inside? He usually follows Walt. Now that Walt was in the wind, did Gus assign him to follow Hector?

Perhaps someone in DEA gave Tyrus a head's up Hector was coming in?

Yeah, like Gomez, he was working for Gus Im pretty sure.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

The employees at the laundry could tell him about Walt and Jessie pulling the fire alarm and telling them to "vamanos" before the explosion. That would certainly raise suspicions.

That and all the video Gus had around there just sitting on his laptop.

Mike might have some chores to do.

I've been assuming those were live feeds that weren't being saved. I can't imagine Gus just stacking up evidence against himself in his Pollos office.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Lastly, a comment and a question, then I'll stop hogging the thread.I agree that Gus's face looked ridiculously fake after the explosion. Go back and pause it; it's comical. The makeup artist should be fired.The question: I can't figure out why Tyrus was at the DEA office when Hector was inside? He usually follows Walt. Now that Walt was in the wind, did Gus assign him to follow Hector?

Perhaps someone in DEA gave Tyrus a head's up Hector was coming in?

Mike said he had DEA contacts earlier, so Tyrus might share those.

 

[Big_Russel]

They are setting Jesse up to be the hero, so I think it's him that takes him out Walt right about the same time Hank discovers the truth. The antagonist for Walt is going to be Hank. No need for a new criminal villain.

That doesn't make sense. If Walt is killed then Hank/DEA/Cops want to know. It'll be clear to Hank that he was wrong about Gus since his death clearly shows there's a bigger fish to catch. Law enforcement who are looking to catch someone doesn't stop if that person is killed by someone.Will be interesting to see who lives, dies and who gets away with it or not.

Wonder if Hank will think the bomb was somehow meant for him, but it accidentally went off with Gus in the room.

 

[biggamer3]

Lastly, a comment and a question, then I'll stop hogging the thread.I agree that Gus's face looked ridiculously fake after the explosion. Go back and pause it; it's comical. The makeup artist should be fired.The question: I can't figure out why Tyrus was at the DEA office when Hector was inside? He usually follows Walt. Now that Walt was in the wind, did Gus assign him to follow Hector?

Perhaps someone in DEA gave Tyrus a head's up Hector was coming in?

Yeah, like Gomez, he was working for Gus Im pretty sure.

There CANT be someone deep inside DEA because if there was then they would have told Gus the whole meeting was one big joke

 

[Christo]

Lastly, a comment and a question, then I'll stop hogging the thread.I agree that Gus's face looked ridiculously fake after the explosion. Go back and pause it; it's comical. The makeup artist should be fired.The question: I can't figure out why Tyrus was at the DEA office when Hector was inside? He usually follows Walt. Now that Walt was in the wind, did Gus assign him to follow Hector?

Perhaps someone in DEA gave Tyrus a head's up Hector was coming in?

Yeah, like Gomez, he was working for Gus Im pretty sure.

There CANT be someone deep inside DEA because if there was then they would have told Gus the whole meeting was one big joke

How much time passed between Tio leaving and Gus heading to the old folks home?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Another cheap shot by the Bears. Typical.

 

[corpcow]

Classy to the end

Well, he is a perfectionist... so he had to fix his... ahh, nevermind. Terminator face FTW.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Another cheap shot by the Bears. Typical.

They should fine Ted for that.

 

[corpcow]

Is their any evidence that it was Walt and not the cartel that took out Gus. Just thinking from Mike's eventual perspective.

Wasn't the cartel pretty much wiped out?

I would think that if it was the cartel going after Gus, they wouldn't need the ruse with Tio... they would just go after him. It's not like they didn't have the snipers and the chance before even when Mike was in the picture.

 

[njherdfan]

Anyone else think that Walt's cancer is going to make a big re-appearance soon. When Walt says "I won," he thinks that he's conquered everything around him, but he can't conquer his disease. Also, does Walt even have the money to pay for treatment anymore? He's almost broke, right?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Walt didn't have enough money to pay for him and his family to be "disappeared" but that doesn't mean he's broke. He came up with the $25k just to get a phone number without too much difficulty. Would his wife have really given away nearly all of the money they had? She can't be that dumb.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Anyone else think that Walt's cancer is going to make a big re-appearance soon. When Walt says "I won," he thinks that he's conquered everything around him, but he can't conquer his disease. Also, does Walt even have the money to pay for treatment anymore? He's almost broke, right?

Can always make the best meth out there. Won't be surprised if they somehow incorporate their hidden lab somewhere in the carwash.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Walt didn't have enough money to pay for him and his family to be "disappeared" but that doesn't mean he's broke. He came up with the $25k just to get a phone number without too much difficulty. Would his wife have really given away nearly all of the money they had? She can't be that dumb.

She is basically a plot device to make Walt's life that much more difficult. He probably has a couple hundred grand laying around total.

 

[ArcticEdge]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab.

I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

 

[beer 30]

Walt has clearly crossed fully over to the dark side at this point. Blowing people up, poisoning kids, shooting people, etc. Not even sure he can give up the life and go back to running the car wash or whatever.

Why not? Gus did exactly that running the chain of chicken restaurants for years while being a drug kingpin. Instead of a chicken shack it is a car wash for Walt and he easily steps into Gus's vacancy. Somebody gotta sell the blue.Agree on the finale, really great season for the show.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Walt has clearly crossed fully over to the dark side at this point. Blowing people up, poisoning kids, shooting people, etc. Not even sure he can give up the life and go back to running the car wash or whatever.

Why not? Gus did exactly that running the chain of chicken restaurants for years while being a drug kingpin. Instead of a chicken shack it is a car wash for Walt and he easily steps into Gus's vacancy. Somebody gotta sell the blue.

well I think the whole story arc of the series is exploring how one character turns from being basically good to evil. Walt looks to be past the point of no return, IMO.Gus was no saint either. Guy was cold blooded.

 

[Raider Nation]

Aaron, I didn't see you in the thread much prior to this season. You are caught up on the whole series, yes?

 

[beer 30]

Walt has clearly crossed fully over to the dark side at this point. Blowing people up, poisoning kids, shooting people, etc. Not even sure he can give up the life and go back to running the car wash or whatever.

Why not? Gus did exactly that running the chain of chicken restaurants for years while being a drug kingpin. Instead of a chicken shack it is a car wash for Walt and he easily steps into Gus's vacancy. Somebody gotta sell the blue.

well I think the whole story arc of the series is exploring how one character turns from being basically good to evil. Walt looks to be past the point of no return, IMO.Gus was no saint either. Guy was cold blooded.

absolutely but he still needed a cover. So does Walt and as I said earlier in this thread, as much as Walt comes off as the lovable loser most of the time, he's pretty damn smart & lucky. I don't think the car wash is that big of a deal but it's his only source of income right now so similar to the Tony hanging out at the Bada Bing, I think e see Walt hanging at the car wash a lot in season 5.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Aaron, I didn't see you in the thread much prior to this season. You are caught up on the whole series, yes?

yesI don't usually watch shows when they air and watch them later on DVR, but this season was too good to wait on. This thread got way too much action to keep up with though.I've been listening to the podcast and reading the Sepinwall stuff you started posting.

 

[Raider Nation]

I've been listening to the podcast and reading the Sepinwall stuff you started posting.

He just posted this wrap-up interview with Gilligan:

"Breaking Bad" just ended its fourth season in memorable fashion and I spoke with the show's creator, Vince Gilligan, about everything that went down and some of his plans for the series' final 16 episodes, all coming up just as soon as I spend time in an electrician chat room...

We have to start at the ending, with that shot of the Lily of the Valley plants in Walt's backyard. This is a very, very bad thing he's done, isn't it?

Yes it is. Walt has come a long way in 46 episodes, that is for sure. But he had a reason for doing it. As bad as it is, my personal take on it is that it was not about murdering a child. It was about making a child very sick but making it seem, more importantly, to Jesse that a child who was very close to him had been poisoned with Ricin. To our way of thinking, it was a very cold-blooded and yet pragmatic way of getting Jesse back in Walt's sphere of influence. It was a very big gamble that Walt was taking, to essentially make Jesse think he had poisoned this child, so Jesse would come to him, ostensibly to kill him, but then to ultimately hear him out and get back on Walt's side. It was a very big gamble that could have ended in Walt getting his head blown off by Jesse, but also a very, very dark secret that goes pretty much hat in hand with the secret that Walt keeps from Jesse about Jane - his guilt about Jane's death. Walt's a pretty bad guy these days, but as usual, everything he does, he does for a very specific reason, cold-blooded though it may be.

I want to get into the mechanics of the plan that Walt hatched. A big deal is made in the previous episode about the chain of custody of the ricin cigarette. What happened to it?

I think Jesse had the right idea. I think it was lifted off him by Huell. When he comes to Walt in the previous episode, and Walt asks how on earth would he could have done it, and Jesse says, "The big man mountain security guard of Saul's just had to see me, and he pats me down. You got him to get it off of me." So having done that, he could've just flushed it in the toilet, because as we find out, the child wasn't poisoned with ricin, he was poisoned with something else.

And Walt was somehow able to get access to Brock, to give him the berries.

Yeah. That part's probably the trickiest part. I can't remember the specifics, but we worked it out in the writer's room. He technically had enough hours to do it. How he found his way over there unseen is probably a little improbable, perhaps, but not impossible, is the way we figured it.

Well, one of the things I found interesting was that even earlier in the episode, before we find out about the Lily of the Valley plant, there's the scene where Walt goes to the house, and he sends his neighbor in, basically as the canary in the coal mine. So there's a couple of points in the episode where Walt is risking innocent civilian lives to protect himself.

That's true. And by the way, the little old lady next door is my mom. (laughs)

Was that bit there to set up the idea that Walt has already moved past that point, so it'll perhaps be a little bit less out of character when you then see the Lily of the Valley shot at the end?

Yeah, I think so. Walt has been a dark guy for a while, but he's definitely darker than he's ever been.

What exactly causes Gus's incident of Spidey-sense in the parking garage that keeps him from going to the car?

I think with that, he finds out in the previous scene in the chapel, he knows his lynchpin remaining meth cook is acting up, and hears this child's in the hospital, figures he has to go talk to the kid, get him right with Jesus, get him cooking, despite what's going on in his personal life. I think his Spidey-sense is all about the way Jesse looks at him in the chapel when he says the little boy's not sick, he was poisoned. That in and of itself sounds strange and sounds too coincidental not to be somehow involved with Walter White. I think his Spidey-sense keys off of Jesse's strange behavior in this hospital chapel.

Well, watching that episode, you have set all of us up to believe what Jesse believes, which is that Gus has poisoned him. It definitely makes more sense from the perspective we have now, but at the time, we don't quite know that.

I think it works on both levels. At the time, if you believe that Gus did indeed poison the little boy, then what you'd assume if you were Gus, when you get this kid alone and he says the little boy has been poisoned - then Gus is too smart to say, "Who do you think poisoned him?" But he's assuming Jesse will say, "I think Mr. White did it." But because Jesse never says who did it, or who he thinks, that's another reason for Gus's Spidey-sense, as it were, to tingle.

How hard was it to say goodbye to Giancarlo Esposito, and to Mark Margolis as Tio? The story had reached a point where they had to go, but was that hard for you as a writer and producer of the show?

Very hard. We knew months and months ago how we were going to end the season, so I called up both of those gentlemen and told them 5 or 6 episodes in advance and of course swore them to secrecy. It was tough. Having that conversation with Giancarlo was tough, I felt I was letting him down somehow, but he was an absolute gentleman and a mensch. He said, "It sounds like a fun episode. Whatever you've got to do for the story, man. I'll miss being here, but do what you gotta do to tell your story." But it's tough. It's like ripping off your own hand or something, because these guys are an integral part of the show. But as you yourself just said, it was time. In the sense of the old "Highlander" movie, there can be only one. I think we got to the point where the town wasn't big enough for the both of them.

And if the goal is to ultimately have Walt become Scarface, you can't have Scarface's boss around anymore.

Exactly. At a certain point, you have to kill off Robert Loggia so Al Pacino can rise to prominence.

But on the other hand, you conveniently left Mike recuperating in Mexico. Have we seen the last of Mr. Banks?

I don't think we've seen the last of Mr. Banks. By the way, in keeping with the fact that people may die but don't completely leave us on "Breaking Bad," I would say that while we don't necessarily have plans for it at the moment, I can't imagine us getting through another 16 episodes of "Breaking Bad" without seeing Gus or Tio again in some flashback or another. I would hope, because it was just so much fun having those guys on the show. We historically do that: we bounce back and forth through time. I don't know why we couldn't do that again. But as far as Mike, you're right. Mike's still alive and kicking again down in Mexico, and I imagine we'll see him again next season.

Next season is 16 episodes, it sounds like they'll air over two years. How are you planning it out? Are you going to insert a specific break point around episode 8, 9 or 10?

I think so. It sounds to me like the thinking on the part of AMC is to split it into two seasons. So we'll try to have a proper cliffhanger, I would think, at the end of the first 8. Which I don't think would be too tough for us, because we try to do a cliffhanger more or less with everything we do. We try to play each one like it's our last as much as we possibly can. Hopefully, that won't be too tough.

There's also the question about how Jesse will be if or when he finds out about Brock, about Jane, and about all the things Walt has done to him and the people he cares about.

Well, you're right. (laughs) Now that you say that, I can think of a few other outstanding questions. But having said that, something feels satisfying on some level to me about the way 413 ends, so if we had to end it there, I don't think it would be a terrible tragedy. But having said that, I've got a lot more I want to do with the show, so I'm proud to have 16 more episodes to play with.

Getting back to Walt's cancer, you're not going to tell me if it's back or not, and I don't want to know. But Bryan was coughing an awful lot in the last few episodes, which brings to mind the fact that much earlier in the season, Mike was coughing a lot for a while. I've been trained watching years of TV that there's no such thing as a coincidental cough. Was this a coincidental cough?

(Laughs)

Did Jonathan Banks just have a cold at the start of production?

(Laughs) You know what? I don't know quite how to answer that. I hate to sound coy, but sometimes there are coincidences and other times there aren't. I have to let that one pass unremarked, so as not to give too much away.

Well, that brings to mind something that became a running gag on the blog this year. Every little element of the show started being compared to the Chekhov's gun theory: Chekhov's throw rug, Chekhov's Ricin cigarette, Chekhov's .38 snub. You plant these things and then you pay them off later on. How far in advance do you have to work to introduce those things?

The one with the rug, not so very hard, because it was all contained within one episode. But the Ricin cigarette, for instance - the short answer is, we try whenever we possibly can, we prefer the long set-up versus the short one. It pleases us. It satisfies us as writers when we can play a very deep game, and play it as many moves ahead as possible. To that end, setting up Tio as Gus's nemesis, that we didn't realize how deep their enmity towards each other was, we started that in earnest this season with episode 8. That was a pretty good lead time, five episodes ahead. But some part of me wishes it had been deeper still, maybe another season before that. Although you kind of get hints the very first time Tio meets Gus along with the Cousins, that the old ******* does not care for Gus.

And also in the flashback in "One Minute," he clearly has a low opinion of "the Chicken Man."

That's true. So we're proud of playing that long game. Sometimes, the game looks like it's been played longer than it truly has. As you just said, that flashback in "One Minute," I don't think we were thinking back then about how Gus and Tio would meet their demise. But we looked back over everything we'd done and we knew there was no love lost between those guys from day one when they first met. We realized we could build on that reality, and add to it and amplify it. The audience realized that these guys don't just dislike each other, they loathe each other. The deep game we try to play, sometimes it feels a little deeper than it truly is. Sometimes, we look around, see where we are and realize fortuitous bits of happenstance that we can build on.

Who was it, and how long ago was it, that came up with the idea that Tio's bell would detonate the bomb that would kill Gus?

In the writers room, it really is a group mind, and you often forget who came up with what. Though I will say in this instance I think it was me. I will take a little executive privilege here. I loved the idea of Tio dinging that bell and blowing up Gus. I think we talked about that at the very beginning of the season, and then we shelved it for a while, and then we came back to it.

This is the first time where I can think a Walter White plan actually worked. Pretty much every other time he's plotted to kill somebody, something's gone wrong, he's had to improvise and kill them at the last minute. This all went to form, at the same time that Walt has, as you say, gone to a very, very dark place. Thematically, is that a coincidence? Or is it deliberate in your mind that Walt could only succeed at that level when he becomes this evil?

That's a very interesting question. I hadn't really thought of it in those terms. This world that he finds himself in, he doesn't find himself in this world by accident. He has made a conscious decision, starting in the very first episode of season one, to be a criminal, to be a bad guy and to live on the wrong side of the law. A guy as smart as Walt should realize pretty quickly that you don't play with fire and not get burned. What's the best way to put this? I'm hoping that when people watch this, they'll think this is the lost episode of the Roadrunner and the Coyote where the Coyote actually gets the Roadrunner. I guess it's a good argument you make: the darker Walt goes, the more chance he has of competing on a level playing field with Gustavo Fring. I hadn't thought of it in those terms, but I guess there is truth to that. This is yet another section of the very dark path he has long ago chosen to tread. So it's nothing new in one sense. In one sense, he's gone very dark indeed, but in another sense, this is the same path he's been on for quite a long time. It starts to feel somewhat inevitable, to me at least, that he would go this dark.

You've kept certain story points about what Walt is up to from viewers before (like Jesse still being in Albuquerque after Walt killed the drug dealers in "Half-Measures"), but never something this big, for this long. This is, if not a complete departure from your narrative style, definitely outside the norm, which is that we see Walt during everything interesting he's doing and know what he's up to. Why did you choose to tell this part of the story this way, as opposed to, say, letting us know from the start that Walt poisoned Brock and was manipulating Jesse?

I think it's because there's no bigger reveal than the fact that Walt would poison a child (albeit to save his own life and the lives of his family). That's the moment that truly makes him no better than Gus. Simply put, it seemed wise to me to save Walt's deepest, darkest secret until the very end.

Having said that, the lily of the valley is hinted at in episode 412 the week before. Walt sits by his pool, waiting to die. He spins his pistol twice in a row, and both times the muzzle winds up pointed straight at him. Is this fate telling him to shoot himself? But then, on the third spin, the muzzle points at the nearby lily of the valley. This, to me, is the moment that Walt begins to get his bold (and reprehensible) idea of poisoning Brock. Divine -- or devilish -- inspiration? Who knows?

 

[Charlie Frown]

Holy crap!

Spoiler

I was like how the hell did he survive that, but then they showed the other side of his head. That was amazing.

Face-Off indeed.That would have been a good series ending but I can't wait to watch another.

 

[Tiger Fan]

So once Brock is healthy, he'll be able to identify Walt as the poisoner, correct?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

So once Brock is healthy, he'll be able to identify Walt as the poisoner, correct?

Not if Walt hid behind some bushes and used a blowgun.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab. I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I can't see why Mike wouldn't join Walt/Jesse. They need muscle and they need someone who is taped into getting muscle and Mike is the man to do that for them. Mike knows this is just a business and pretty sure Gus wasn't the first person he worked for. Plus on some deep level I think he likes Jesse. Reminds me in Scarface when Pacino kills his boss then asks his body guard "You want a job?"

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab. I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

 

[Apple Juice]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

 

[SacramentoBob]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

I can get on board with this.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

I must have missed a clue somewhere...who is Gus' son??

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

I'm sure that I'm the only one, but I thought that when Walt sent his neighbor in the house, it was going to blow up.

 

[Walton Goggins]

I'm sure that I'm the only one, but I thought that when Walt sent his neighbor in the house, it was going to blow up.

lol I thought the same thing.Funny, that old lady is Gilligan's mom.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

I'm sure that I'm the only one, but I thought that when Walt sent his neighbor in the house, it was going to blow up.

lol I thought the same thing.Funny, that old lady is Gilligan's mom.

me too, or when she went in the door, there would be a splash of blood on the wall

 

[Oscar]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

I must have missed a clue somewhere...who is Gus' son??

+ 1. Who is Gus' son?

 

[Sconch]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

I must have missed a clue somewhere...who is Gus' son??

+ 1. Who is Gus' son?

Gus Jr but he wants to be called "Flynn".

 

[corpcow]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

 

[Major]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

I must have missed a clue somewhere...who is Gus' son??

I disagree with this. Gus's son is a perfectionist and wouldn't entertain a woman with 96% bodyfat.

 

[ArcticEdge]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab. I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

I must have missed a clue somewhere...who is Gus' son??

I disagree with this. Gus's son is a perfectionist and wouldn't entertain a woman with 96% bodyfat.

He only accepts 99%.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

First scene of next season will feature Mike doing some dirty work, at the end of which we'll find out he's doing it for Walt. Next season is Mike, Jesse and Walt taking over the trade and Hank figuring out everything that has happened for four seasons. Much suspense with Hank going from clue to clue, Jesse figuring out the bad #### Walt has done to him, and Gus's son having an affair with Skylar and later learning that her husband is the one who killed his father but he mistakenly assassinates Mike thinking it's Walt.

I must have missed a clue somewhere...who is Gus' son??

I disagree with this. Gus's son is a perfectionist and wouldn't entertain a woman with 96% bodyfat.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab. I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

 

[ArcticEdge]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab. I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

So in other words, Hank some how has a red flag on that kind of equipment, and that company will call him if that kind of equipment goes to Albuquerque? No, I dont think that. Even if he could do that, who says Heisenberg uses that company? I mean, he doesnt even know that is where the equipment came from. Unless we are to believe he had some sort of conversation with Gus off screen. Nope.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Would be smart if Walt could somehow pin Mike as being Heisneberg and have him killed in the process then he's off scot-free. They look very similar.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab. I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

I think with the cartel dead and now Gus getting killed it's fairly safe to say that Hank and company are going to find out who killed Gus. It wouldn't make any sense for them to just drop it. Remember, only Hank thought Gus was Heisenberg and the rest weren't sure. When they figure out how the bomb was made and his lab torched they are going to investigate who was behind this.

 

[ArcticEdge]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab.

I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

I think with the cartel dead and now Gus getting killed it's fairly safe to say that Hank and company are going to find out who killed Gus. It wouldn't make any sense for them to just drop it. Remember, only Hank thought Gus was Heisenberg and the rest weren't sure. When they figure out how the bomb was made and his lab torched they are going to investigate who was behind this.

How exactly are they going to link it to Walt? Why would there minds go there when they could go to a more likely target like the cartel?

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab. I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

So in other words, Hank some how has a red flag on that kind of equipment, and that company will call him if that kind of equipment goes to Albuquerque? No, I dont think that. Even if he could do that, who says Heisenberg uses that company? I mean, he doesnt even know that is where the equipment came from. Unless we are to believe he had some sort of conversation with Gus off screen. Nope.

no I didn't mean a red flag, per se, just another hunch that leads to more snoopingbut even if it was from a different company, purchases that large wouldn't be hard for Hank to find *shrug* I'd have to go back and check it again, but it seems like they said it was highly specialized equipment, so there may not be more than one place to get it fromI'm not discounting the theory that Walt may try to set up a lab again, I just don't see him being able to rebuild a "super lab" like he had access to before

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab.

I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

I think with the cartel dead and now Gus getting killed it's fairly safe to say that Hank and company are going to find out who killed Gus. It wouldn't make any sense for them to just drop it. Remember, only Hank thought Gus was Heisenberg and the rest weren't sure. When they figure out how the bomb was made and his lab torched they are going to investigate who was behind this.

How exactly are they going to link it to Walt? Why would there minds go there when they could go to a more likely target like the cartel?

laundry employees who were there when Jessie and Walt set off the fire alarm?