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I could see Hank figuring it out it's Walt who he's been chasing all this time while Walt in his room then Walt ends up suffocating with a pillow.
Hank's upper body still works, Goggins.
So what, he's out of shape and lays in bed most of the time. Plus he couldn't out muscle Walt.
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Severe trauma, half his body is done, overweight, how many months has this been since he was shot? Seriously why would you think he's stronger than Walt at this point? Remember Walt's first kill with the drug dealer choking him with a bike lock? He's come a long way while Hank is a shell of his former self.
 
Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.

I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.

Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.

 
Wouldn't it be great if Walt takes a look at Hank's minerals and tells him they're pieces of crap? Either way I think Hank is going to get Walt going on the minerals. He may finally start to respect Walt's knowledge of chemistry and try to get him to help tracking down the meth. Walt can even play Hank and lead him right to Gus.But I'm getting ahead of myself.
Well if we are to believe that Walt is going to do something that will clearly make him an evil person beyond belief, I could see Hank figuring it out it's Walt who he's been chasing all this time while Walt in his room then Walt ends up suffocating with a pillow or killing him in some sick way. You know if Hank figures out it's Walt he'll want to make 100% sure and want Walt to admit it to him face to face.
That's pretty good.
 
Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.

I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.

Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
I was thinking along the same lines. Hank was talking about a blue mineral. Maybe he'll find out that what makes it blue can also be found in Meth ingredients.
 
What I'm a little surprised by is that it seems clear that Mike is really shaken up over Gus' box cutter scene. You go back and watch when Gus begins to use the box cutter, Mike actually pulls his gun with a WTF/am I going to shoot you look on his face. You would have thought he had seen it all. Seems like Walter believes now he can convince Mike to go on his side and eliminate Gus if not Walt wouldn't have attempted to bring up that conversation with Mike in the bar.
ReactionThey had to work on that for a while.
It could be but remember when Mike went into the warehouse and began to kill people off (ended with shooting the guy through the wall)? He was so calm and cool, never flinch even when people were shooting at him. This is his boss who didn't have a gun so it's not as if Mike's life was in danger (he was far away). Perhaps it was also done to ramp up the scene as much as possible. Mike definitely doesn't seem like himself since that scene which to a contract killer seemed bizarre.
It could be what?
You said "reaction" and thought your reply to me was that he pulled his gun because it's a natural reaction. Could be but found that odd given how calm he's been in a prior multiple killing. He's always calm in every scene I can remember him being in except box cutter.
It makes no sense your way. If it was planned by Mike and Gus, why did Mike do it behind Walt and Jessie's back? The writer's purpose was to show that what Gus did was so unexpected even Mike freaked.
I never said it was planned my Mike and Gus. I think it's possible that Mike ends up helping Walt kill Gus but never know with this show.Not once has Mike ever flinched no matter what the situation came his way. Just found it odd that he is working for a man who is far from good to be shocked and pull his weapon just because Gus pulled out and used a box cutter. Mike seems like he's been through and done stuff that most people have never imagined.
Questioning whether it was a "natural reaction" implies you think it could have been planned.
 
Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
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Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
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Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
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I think he strongly disagrees with all three if the things you're saying. If that's not what he's saying, I'll say it. None of that makes sense.
 
Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
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I think he strongly disagrees with all three if the things you're saying. If that's not what he's saying, I'll say it. None of that makes sense.
How so? They randomely mention Hanks' minerals in both episodes so far? Have a scene with Marie lugging them around. Very likely they come into play.
 
Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
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I think he strongly disagrees with all three if the things you're saying. If that's not what he's saying, I'll say it. None of that makes sense.
How so? They randomely mention Hanks' minerals in both episodes so far? Have a scene with Marie lugging them around. Very likely they come into play.
Yes, I think they will come into play. But the rest of your analysis makes no sense. He's ordering hundreds of these things, for reasons unknown, solely to set up a later plot where his brother in law, about whom he currently has no suspicions, will randomly come over and do a chemical analysis that will arouse suspicion in Hank's mind that his brother in law is actually the drug manufacturer he's been chasing? That would a "deus ex machina" of the worst kind, and avoiding that sort of thing is exactly what makes the show great. I think it's far more likely that Hank is bored and growing obsessed with his Heisenberg investigation to the point that he orders blue-colored minerals in order to determine whether their composition holds any clues about the blue-colored meth.As for the other two things ... they're just wild theories. I suppose they're possible but both would be lazy writing. There's no reason Gus wouldn't have brought Walt into his house, since Walt knew where he worked and how to find him and could have found out that information easily if he chose. And Hank has given no indication whatsoever that he wants out of his marriage.
 
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Only thing I didnt like about this episode is how Walt was handling himself. If this was the first episode that I have ever seen, I might be inclined to think that Walt is a little bit of a buffoon. He just wasnt his normal intelligent self. :shrug:
Did you watch season 1? Walt is a buffoon, that's his thing. He gets himself into a pile of #### and works it out or someone comes to his rescue. He's brilliant at what he knows (making meth) but he is out of his element in the drug trade (distributing meth). He's learning but stuff like going to Gus's house in order to shoot him are the kind of mistakes that make Walt the great character he is.
 
When Walt went to deal with Tucco he had a plan and he pulled it off. When he went to do whatever he planned on doing to Gus--I don't even know what the plan was. To think he could show up at his house with a gun and take care of him was almost child-like. I'd agree that he was acting like a bafoon.

Based on his desperate chattering to Gus in the first episode, his ridiculous trip to Gus's house and his pointless rationalizing to Mike, Walt has appeared very weak and bumbling so far.

 
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Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.

I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.

Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
Gus had Walt to dinner at his house last season.
 
'Daywalker said:
Have we seen Mike at home before? Think it is unlikely Gus would have brought Walt to his own house. Perhaps the house is Mike's and Gus was using it to have dinner with Walt.

I think the minerals are going to come into play in that Walt is going to analyze them in a fashion that causes Hank to get a hunch Walt makes crystal meth. Perhaps, Hank reades the notebook and after Walt uses a phrase or description from it when looking at his minerals. Then Hank starts thinking about how his medical bills are really getting paid.

Hank is probably treating Marie so poorly in order to get her to leave him.
Gus had Walt to dinner at his house last season.
Just saying we are assuming it is Gus' house and I wouldn't be suprised if it wasn't.
 
When Walt went to deal with Tucco he had a plan and he pulled it off. When he went to do whatever he planned on doing to Gus--I don't even know what the plan was. To think he could show up at his house with a gun and take care of him was almost child-like. I'd agree that he was acting like a bafoon. Based on his desperate chattering to Gus in the first episode, his ridiculous trip to Gus's house and his pointless rationalizing to Mike, Walt has appeared very weak and bumbling so far.
He's been a dead man the whole time he's been on Gus's radar. He's just realizing this. Gus never intended him to be "part of the family".
 
I said it once already, but I'm really liking Jesse's transformation to the dark side, and Aaron Paul is pulling it off well. during the party scene when everyone was dancing, he just seemed so out of it. he was there in the middle of the crowd, dancing with everyone, but you could tell he was a million miles away. his demons are getting louder, and he's having a hard time shutting them out, as evidenced by sitting right in front of the speaker at the end. he's losing it. I could see him transforming into a real psychopath.

 
I said it once already, but I'm really liking Jesse's transformation to the dark side, and Aaron Paul is pulling it off well. during the party scene when everyone was dancing, he just seemed so out of it. he was there in the middle of the crowd, dancing with everyone, but you could tell he was a million miles away. his demons are getting louder, and he's having a hard time shutting them out, as evidenced by sitting right in front of the speaker at the end. he's losing it. I could see him transforming into a real psychopath.
This is interesting. I predict the exact opposite. I think as Walt breaks bad, Jesse will be the counterbalance and will eventually "break good," if that's a thing. His story will be one of redemption. I think the cash gift to his old girlfriend and the recommendation that she use it to get her son in a better situation was the first sign of that. Just my own theory.
 
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I said it once already, but I'm really liking Jesse's transformation to the dark side, and Aaron Paul is pulling it off well. during the party scene when everyone was dancing, he just seemed so out of it. he was there in the middle of the crowd, dancing with everyone, but you could tell he was a million miles away. his demons are getting louder, and he's having a hard time shutting them out, as evidenced by sitting right in front of the speaker at the end. he's losing it. I could see him transforming into a real psychopath.
This is interesting. I predict the exact opposite. I think as Walt breaks bad, Jesse will be the counterbalance and will eventually "break good," if that's a thing. His story will be one of redemption. I think the cash gift to his old girlfriend and the recommendation that she use it to get her son in a better situation was the first sign of that. Just my own theory.
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I said it once already, but I'm really liking Jesse's transformation to the dark side, and Aaron Paul is pulling it off well. during the party scene when everyone was dancing, he just seemed so out of it. he was there in the middle of the crowd, dancing with everyone, but you could tell he was a million miles away. his demons are getting louder, and he's having a hard time shutting them out, as evidenced by sitting right in front of the speaker at the end. he's losing it. I could see him transforming into a real psychopath.
This is interesting. I predict the exact opposite. I think as Walt breaks bad, Jesse will be the counterbalance and will eventually "break good," if that's a thing. His story will be one of redemption. I think the cash gift to his old girlfriend and the recommendation that she use it to get her son in a better situation was the first sign of that. Just my own theory.
Jesse's little wave to the kid as he was being driven away was encouraging. I read somewhere that he still has a little hope for others in the world even if he no longer has any for himself.
 
I said it once already, but I'm really liking Jesse's transformation to the dark side, and Aaron Paul is pulling it off well. during the party scene when everyone was dancing, he just seemed so out of it. he was there in the middle of the crowd, dancing with everyone, but you could tell he was a million miles away. his demons are getting louder, and he's having a hard time shutting them out, as evidenced by sitting right in front of the speaker at the end. he's losing it. I could see him transforming into a real psychopath.
This is interesting. I predict the exact opposite. I think as Walt breaks bad, Jesse will be the counterbalance and will eventually "break good," if that's a thing. His story will be one of redemption. I think the cash gift to his old girlfriend and the recommendation that she use it to get her son in a better situation was the first sign of that. Just my own theory.
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some of that was reminicent of the Don Vito backstory from Godfather 2 where he used his powers to help some people out.Hank is a man's man. He doesn't want to depend on anybody. I could see him trying to push Marie away so that she doesn't have to take care of him.I could also see Hank having a casual conversation withWalt about the minerals and letting something slip that could be a clue
 
I said it once already, but I'm really liking Jesse's transformation to the dark side, and Aaron Paul is pulling it off well. during the party scene when everyone was dancing, he just seemed so out of it. he was there in the middle of the crowd, dancing with everyone, but you could tell he was a million miles away. his demons are getting louder, and he's having a hard time shutting them out, as evidenced by sitting right in front of the speaker at the end. he's losing it. I could see him transforming into a real psychopath.
This is interesting. I predict the exact opposite. I think as Walt breaks bad, Jesse will be the counterbalance and will eventually "break good," if that's a thing. His story will be one of redemption. I think the cash gift to his old girlfriend and the recommendation that she use it to get her son in a better situation was the first sign of that. Just my own theory.
totally. he could go either way. my point was that right now, he's headed down the bad path. he still has some good in him, but it's fading. he'll have to turn things around to have a redemption.also, based on what she said, it sounded like he gave the girl that money BEFORE he shot Gale.
 
I found this

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2011/07/breaking-bad-review-episode-42.html

Season four of Breaking Bad is shaping up to be a game of cat and mouse. Walter is hellbent on killing Gus, and Gus seems to be two steps ahead. After all, he wouldn’t be where he is today if he wasn’t that cautious. The game is uneven, as Walter is still relatively new to all of this. He’s an amateur. Gus has been doing this for years, and if his message sent by slitting the throat of one of his most loyal workers with a box cutter wasn’t enough to prove he’s not to be ####ed with, I don’t know what is. Despite this, Walter now understands the game. He knows that’s it has nothing to do with loyalty or the good work he puts in. The minute he becomes a risk to Gus, he is liable to be killed on the spot. That’s something he can’t live with. And, maybe on a deeper level, Gus has insulted him.

So much of the transformation of Walter White into Heisenberg has been about Walt’s willingness to play by the rules and do what he was told prior to his decision to break bad. His decision to give in completely into criminality has offered him freedom. But with this newfound freedom also comes flaws. Simply put, he’s “gung-ho.” Much of the “Thirty-Eight Snub” revolved around Walt’s plan to kill Gus. He purchases a pistol from a gun dealer that is recommended to him by Saul. From his draw time when reaching for his gun in his holster to the accuracy of which he is able to point the gun at his target, he’s fully committed to this. Walter is going at this full speed. The problem, then, is that he’s not fully thinking out his plans.

Bringing his pistol to work, he gets ready to shoot Gus as a figure walks down the lab stairs, but it turns out to be Victor’s new replacement. Flabbergasted, Walter asks Mike the cleaner where Gus is. Mike bluntly replies: “Walter, you aren’t ever going to see him again.” This really sets the stage for this game of strategy between these two men. Gus is already fully aware of the possible consequences of his actions to try to have Walt killed in the past, to the point that he refuses to meet with Walt in person again. Failed attempt number one.

Jesse, on the other hand, seems to be in a completely different world. He’s still reeling from having to kill Gale. In the premiere, Jesse seemed cold about everything, but here we see that there is a lot more going on with him. His purchase of a new sound system and other stuff to fill up his house isn’t just the fruit of his labor. Breaking his rehab program to snort a line with Badger and Skinny Pete isn’t about him slipping back into irresponsibility. In fact, I would argue this is the most focused we have seen Jesse. He shows up to work on time; he does his job efficiently. He doesn’t lip off to Walter or his superiors. The scene where his ex-girlfriend shows up and asks about Tomás’ killers being found dead, and the envelope full of money left in her mailbox, also showed Jesse in the role of a provider. No, all of this is just a front—a way for him to deal with his guilt and pain of having to take another man’s life. The party he throws is just an excuse for there to always be noise blasting in his ears to drown out his thoughts. He even makes a point to show up at work with earbuds. From the time he goes to work, to the time he comes home, all of it is a distraction. But when even the deadbeat partiers are partied out and, you know, have responsibilities, they’ve had enough of Jesse’s fantasy world of distraction. Shuffling out, he’s left alone to a room of silence. And finally we see Jesse break down what he’s been holding in since the murder. Walter and Jesse have always been on different pages throughout the series, but I have a feeling sooner rather than later, Walter is going to need Jesse to step up to the plate.

Gilligan has also done a fantastic job with his use of the secondary characters this season. Dean Norris brilliantly depicts Hank’s painful road to recovery. His obsession with minerals and his absurd purchasing habits really show the mental toll that a serious injury like that can have on a person. But, more importantly, the distance that is building between him and Marie due to the hardship this has caused is wonderfully written. Hank in a lot of ways is pushing Marie further from him, and it’s really given these actors room to shine. Skylar is also finally given something to do besides constantly trying to foil Walter and his plans. I particularly enjoyed the scene where she goes into the car wash and offers to buy it from Walt’s old boss. While Walt and Jesse’s plots are more gripping, any moment on screen revolving around the other characters is just as rewarding and helps flesh out the impact of the choices our main characters make on the people around them.

Still determined after Gus refuses to meet with him, Walt drives over to Gus’ house late in the night. Getting into the moment, he throws on his infamous Heisenberg hat, adjusts his gun and is ready to go. The scene very much reminded me of the end of “Half-Measure” where Jesse is slowly walking over to the drug dealers to pull his gun on them. The incredible use of music ticks away, and the tension slowly builds. However, Walt’s cell phone goes off, and he fumbles for it. “Go home, Walt,” says an ominous voice over the phone. Failed attempt number two.

Walter now knows that Gus has surveillance around his house. It’s not as easy as attacking the man at his work. Finally, he tracks down Mike the cleaner at the bar that he usually visits with the hopes of flipping him. What transpires here is Walt’s attempt to convince Mike that Gus is a bad boss to work for. After all, he killed Victor just like that, and that means that Gus has no loyalty to any of his workers, but only to himself and his own survival. Walt says, “Everything I did, I did out of loyalty to my partner.” Trying to show Mike the great lengths he is willing to go to fight for his people, he tells him, “Get me in a room with him, and I will do the rest.” Mike won’t have any of it. He punches Walt in the face, and kicks him a few times for good measure. Failed attempt number three.

Gus clearly anticipated that Walt might try to outwit him. He’s done everything in his power to make sure that all possible angles Walt could have taken are blocked off. Walt, then, is going to have to play it smart from here on out. This isn’t a game that can be won strictly on violence alone. “Thirty-Eight Snub” was another incredible episode of Breaking Bad. The impending war between Gus and Walt has the makings of one of television’s finest showdowns. We’re constantly being left on the edge of our seats as we wait each week to see how each side makes its next move.

Stray Observations:



-Did anyone else think that Bryan Cranston was one of the partiers at Jesse’s party? Right after Jesse leaves to work, a man in a wig pops up at the left of the screen and shakes his head to the music. It really looked like Cranston.

-I wonder why Mike the cleaner punched Walt. Was he insulted that Walt would even bring up the idea of killing Gus? Or was he simply just showing Walt that he’s not anywhere close to being the man to pull something off like that. I keep going back and forth on this.

-Great use of camera work on that Roomba.

-Saul’s commercial that exploited the crash in season two was tasteless, but also perfect for the character. Loved it.
 
I said it once already, but I'm really liking Jesse's transformation to the dark side, and Aaron Paul is pulling it off well. during the party scene when everyone was dancing, he just seemed so out of it. he was there in the middle of the crowd, dancing with everyone, but you could tell he was a million miles away. his demons are getting louder, and he's having a hard time shutting them out, as evidenced by sitting right in front of the speaker at the end. he's losing it. I could see him transforming into a real psychopath.
This is interesting. I predict the exact opposite. I think as Walt breaks bad, Jesse will be the counterbalance and will eventually "break good," if that's a thing. His story will be one of redemption. I think the cash gift to his old girlfriend and the recommendation that she use it to get her son in a better situation was the first sign of that. Just my own theory.
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some of that was reminicent of the Don Vito backstory from Godfather 2 where he used his powers to help some people out.Hank is a man's man. He doesn't want to depend on anybody. I could see him trying to push Marie away so that she doesn't have to take care of him.I could also see Hank having a casual conversation withWalt about the minerals and letting something slip that could be a clue
Hank's attitude resonates with me and I think I'd probably be the exact same way.
 
I can't believe this show is in its 4th season and I'm just finding out about it. I went back and watched the first three seasons thanks to you guys. Up to date now.

Damn this show is good. Agree that it's right there with Sopronos and The Wire :thumbup:

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Here's an answer to the question of who was on the phone with Walt when he was outside Gus's house, straight from Vince Gilligan as relayed by Sepinwall. I'm putting it in spoiler tags because it reveals something about the show that hasn't been aired yet:

UPDATE: There's been so much debate in the comments about who called Walt - Gus or Mike - that I went and asked Vince Gilligan. I don't view his answer as any kind of spoiler (as it's info from an episode that's already aired), but in case you do, don't read the next short paragraph:

So as it turns out, it wasn't Mike. And it wasn't Gus. It was, instead, the new third man in the operation, Tyrus (played by Ray Campbell), whom we saw earlier weighing the batch. And that explains why no one could agree on whether it was Esposito's voice or Banks's voice, I suppose.
ETA: I should clarify that this isn't really much of a spoiler. It's not like it reveals what's gonna happen the rest of this season. It's borderline, so I figured better safe than sorry.

 
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-I wonder why Mike the cleaner punched Walt. Was he insulted that Walt would even bring up the idea of killing Gus? Or was he simply just showing Walt that he's not anywhere close to being the man to pull something off like that. I keep going back and forth on this.
This one seems pretty easy. First of all he blames Walt for the situation getting to where it's at. Secondly it's insulting to him to suggest that he would even need Walt if he chose to go the killing Gus route.
 
-I wonder why Mike the cleaner punched Walt. Was he insulted that Walt would even bring up the idea of killing Gus? Or was he simply just showing Walt that he's not anywhere close to being the man to pull something off like that. I keep going back and forth on this.
This one seems pretty easy. First of all he blames Walt for the situation getting to where it's at. Secondly it's insulting to him to suggest that he would even need Walt if he chose to go the killing Gus route.
:confused: He's a cleaner so what bad situation is he in? You don't tell cleaners what to do. See: Winston Wolf
 
When Walt went to deal with Tucco he had a plan and he pulled it off. When he went to do whatever he planned on doing to Gus--I don't even know what the plan was. To think he could show up at his house with a gun and take care of him was almost child-like. I'd agree that he was acting like a bafoon. Based on his desperate chattering to Gus in the first episode, his ridiculous trip to Gus's house and his pointless rationalizing to Mike, Walt has appeared very weak and bumbling so far.
Near the end of season one Jesse wanted to shoot Tuco. Walt talked him out of it, in a really patronizing way, and said Jesse didn't really have a plan. It seems Walt put himself in that same situation with Gus, but there was no one there to tell him it was a bad idea, until he got that phone call.If Jesse had tried to shoot Tuco he would have probably just gotten himself killed. Had Walt actually come face to face with Gus the same would have probably happened to him.
 
-I wonder why Mike the cleaner punched Walt. Was he insulted that Walt would even bring up the idea of killing Gus? Or was he simply just showing Walt that he's not anywhere close to being the man to pull something off like that. I keep going back and forth on this.
This one seems pretty easy. First of all he blames Walt for the situation getting to where it's at. Secondly it's insulting to him to suggest that he would even need Walt if he chose to go the killing Gus route.
:confused: He's a cleaner so what bad situation is he in? You don't tell cleaners what to do. See: Winston Wolf
His partner Victor is dead.New procedures at the lab

He has to help make sure Walt goes nowhere near Gus

Mike has to worry if he is any way a risk to Gus

 
-I wonder why Mike the cleaner punched Walt. Was he insulted that Walt would even bring up the idea of killing Gus? Or was he simply just showing Walt that he's not anywhere close to being the man to pull something off like that. I keep going back and forth on this.
This one seems pretty easy. First of all he blames Walt for the situation getting to where it's at. Secondly it's insulting to him to suggest that he would even need Walt if he chose to go the killing Gus route.
:confused: He's a cleaner so what bad situation is he in? You don't tell cleaners what to do. See: Winston Wolf
His partner Victor is dead.New procedures at the lab

He has to help make sure Walt goes nowhere near Gus

Mike has to worry if he is any way a risk to Gus
Might it be possible that Mike and Gus are partners at the head of the drug empire?
 
-I wonder why Mike the cleaner punched Walt. Was he insulted that Walt would even bring up the idea of killing Gus? Or was he simply just showing Walt that he's not anywhere close to being the man to pull something off like that. I keep going back and forth on this.
This one seems pretty easy. First of all he blames Walt for the situation getting to where it's at. Secondly it's insulting to him to suggest that he would even need Walt if he chose to go the killing Gus route.
:confused: He's a cleaner so what bad situation is he in? You don't tell cleaners what to do. See: Winston Wolf
His partner Victor is dead.New procedures at the lab

He has to help make sure Walt goes nowhere near Gus

Mike has to worry if he is any way a risk to Gus
Might it be possible that Mike and Gus are partners at the head of the drug empire?
Doubtful, especialy after Mike's comment to Walt that Walt makes way more money then him.
 
Alan Sepinwall has an update at the end of his review where he asked Vince Gilligan about the voice on the phone.

UPDATE: There's been so much debate in the comments about who called Walt - Gus or Mike - that I went and asked Vince Gilligan. I don't view his answer as any kind of spoiler (as it's info from an episode that's already aired), but in case you do, don't read the next short paragraph:

So as it turns out, it wasn't Mike. And it wasn't Gus. It was, instead, the new third man in the operation, Tyrus (played by Ray Campbell), whom we saw earlier weighing the batch. And that explains why no one could agree on whether it was Esposito's voice or Banks's voice, I suppose.
 
Guy on the phone could be the "new Victor". I think we'll get answers in the weekly chat. Not huge issues. I don't want to start feeling like a Trek nerd dissecting every minute detail.
So how many of you guys that said "of course it was Gus on the phone, stupid" are going to get their crow self served? :popcorn:
 
Guy on the phone could be the "new Victor". I think we'll get answers in the weekly chat. Not huge issues. I don't want to start feeling like a Trek nerd dissecting every minute detail.
So how many of you guys that said "of course it was Gus on the phone, stupid" are going to get their crow self served? :popcorn:
I think it's a pretty big detail that we never saw or heard Gus in that entire episode.
What happened with Skylar banging her boss, and all that?
They're over. Remember when he came by the house and was trying to get her to talk and she yelled "Are you really gonna make me do this right now?"Shortly after Walt Jr. told Hank than neither one of his parents was working, so apparently she doesn't work for him anymore either.

 

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