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'PlasmaDogPlasma said:
'Raider Nation said:
What happened with Skylar banging her boss, and all that?
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They're over. Remember when he came by the house and was trying to get her to talk and she yelled "Are you really gonna make me do this right now?"Shortly after Walt Jr. told Hank than neither one of his parents was working, so apparently she doesn't work for him anymore either.
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Good notebook. So much crap happens in this show, it's hard to remember all of it.
 
'Raider Nation said:
'PlasmaDogPlasma said:
'Raider Nation said:
What happened with Skylar banging her boss, and all that?
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They're over. Remember when he came by the house and was trying to get her to talk and she yelled "Are you really gonna make me do this right now?"Shortly after Walt Jr. told Hank than neither one of his parents was working, so apparently she doesn't work for him anymore either.
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Good notebook. So much crap happens in this show, it's hard to remember all of it.
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I watched the whole series again leading up to the new season.
 
'boubucarow said:
I could go with an assumption that Hank is trying to determine why the meth is blue in his own odd ball obsessive way.
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This is my thought as well. Don't think he is collecting minerals because he's turning into a space cadet, there is a reason.
'wildbill said:
Alan Sepinwall has an update at the end of his review where he asked Vince Gilligan about the voice on the phone.

UPDATE: There's been so much debate in the comments about who called Walt - Gus or Mike - that I went and asked Vince Gilligan. I don't view his answer as any kind of spoiler (as it's info from an episode that's already aired), but in case you do, don't read the next short paragraph:

So as it turns out, it wasn't Mike. And it wasn't Gus. It was, instead, the new third man in the operation, Tyrus (played by Ray Campbell), whom we saw earlier weighing the batch. And that explains why no one could agree on whether it was Esposito's voice or Banks's voice, I suppose.
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Nice job there bud. Check the spoiler tag post a few up from yours :thumbup:
 
'Red Forman said:
'Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
'Sam Quentin said:
'Walton Goggins said:
'PlasmaDogPlasma said:
'Walton Goggins said:
-I wonder why Mike the cleaner punched Walt. Was he insulted that Walt would even bring up the idea of killing Gus? Or was he simply just showing Walt that he's not anywhere close to being the man to pull something off like that. I keep going back and forth on this.
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This one seems pretty easy. First of all he blames Walt for the situation getting to where it's at. Secondly it's insulting to him to suggest that he would even need Walt if he chose to go the killing Gus route.
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:confused: He's a cleaner so what bad situation is he in? You don't tell cleaners what to do. See: Winston Wolf
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His partner Victor is dead.New procedures at the lab

He has to help make sure Walt goes nowhere near Gus

Mike has to worry if he is any way a risk to Gus
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Might it be possible that Mike and Gus are partners at the head of the drug empire?
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Doubtful, especialy after Mike's comment to Walt that Walt makes way more money then him.
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If Mike does not want Walk to know then it would be a nice lie to tell, and it would explain Mike's reaction to the conversation.
 
Anyone believe that Mike has killed off Gus? When he told Walt "You'll NEVER see Gus again" I thought that was strange given the fact that Gus is a person who is quite visible in the community.

Also wonder if it'll come into play how Walt and Mike look very similar and Mike will be seen as Eisneberg, not Walt.

 
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'Walton Goggins said:
Anyone believe that Mike has killed off Gus? When he told Walt "You'll NEVER see Gus again" I thought that was strange given the fact that Gus is a person who is quite visible in the community.Also wonder if it'll come into play how Walt and Mike look very similar and Mike will be seen as Eisnehaur, not Walt.
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I don't know. There are definitely moments when you could think it. Didn't Gus take on and kind of cripple the Cartels in the third Season? If that was case, and Gus is isolated from Mexico.....it's possible for Mike to jump in, particularly with the Eisenberg coincidence.
 
'Thunderlips said:
'Walton Goggins said:
Anyone believe that Mike has killed off Gus? When he told Walt "You'll NEVER see Gus again" I thought that was strange given the fact that Gus is a person who is quite visible in the community.Also wonder if it'll come into play how Walt and Mike look very similar and Mike will be seen as Eisnehaur, not Walt.
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I don't know. There are definitely moments when you could think it. Didn't Gus take on and kind of cripple the Cartels in the third Season? If that was case, and Gus is isolated from Mexico.....it's possible for Mike to jump in, particularly with the Eisenberg coincidence.
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Could be a possibility, a few random thoughts:1. He's got Walt scared now 2. He told Walt he will never see Gus again3. Does Mike have the knowledge of how to actually run the drug trade? Or does Gus have a #2 that we might not know about :shrug:4. I love this show
 
Someone explain Marie's house hunting. Is she actually looking for a place in case she leaves Hank?

Was it only a method of stealing nice stuff?

And was she crying because she was hoping to go to jail instead of returning home to Hank?

 
'Raider Nation said:
Someone explain Marie's house hunting. Is she actually looking for a place in case she leaves Hank?Was it only a method of stealing nice stuff?And was she crying because she was hoping to go to jail instead of returning home to Hank?
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Marie isn't leaving Hank. She wasn't looking for a house to buy, she was looking for loose items to steal.She was crying because she didn't want to face him now that he knows she has been stealing again. She wasn't hoping she would go to jail, she was hoping she wouldn't get caught.
 
dont want to be that guy who rips on greatness but this episode was super filler to me. If you went from last episode to the next where it seems like shist will be getting crazy, i dont think you would have missed a thing.

When Walt gets under 10 mins of screentime this show is not the same.

PS anyone else was hoping Walt and Jess actually went Go Carting together? That scene and convo's would have been epic

 
Such a horrible episode. This is only slightly better then the fly episode from last season. Just a bunch of filler and no advancement of the story. The Marie angle is just cringe worthy, not even watchable. Saul was good as always but its just for comedy and the Jessie storyline was set from last week. Hopefully next week takes off.

 
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.

My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?

 
Sepinwall:

A review of tonight's "Breaking Bad" coming up just as soon as I get a lifetime supply of french manicures and enzyme peels..."The devil is in the details." -SkylerLast week found most our characters stuck in a state of stasis, with Walt's plan to assassinate Gus not working out, Skyler appearing to blow her big move with Bogdan and the car wash, Hank still being a less-than-model patient, etc.With "Open House," we see some characters finally get moving a bit. Skyler finally figures out how to make Bogdan an offer he can't refuse - and not in a Luca Brasi way, because "We do not do that." And Hank - whether out of boredom with his new lifestyle or a desire to get out of the house and away from Marie's problems - picks up Gale's notebook and almost immediately sees the connection between this murder victim and Heisenberg.Yet Skyler and Hank's moves are really about setting things up for later episodes, when we'll no doubt see her asserting herself at the car wash and him rediscovering his investigative mojo. What really fascinated me in "Open House" were the two characters(*) stuck in neutral: Marie and Jesse.(*) And it's a mark of this show's evolution they can do an episode this good in which Walt isn't the main character in any of the storylines. Way back in the show's early days, I watched for Bryan Cranston and to see if Vince Gilligan and company could figure the rest of it out. Today, we can get an hour where Cranston's only occasionally prominent, and it's not a big deal, because every part of the series is so strong.When I interviewed Betsy Brandt a few months ago, I asked her about the transformation of Marie from the strange kleptomaniac she was in the show's early days into the character she became in seasons two and (especially) three. I hadn't seen any of these episodes at that point, and had no idea that the show would be revisiting that old territory, but I'm glad that we have. TV characters change and grow to fit both the needs of the story and also the actors playing them, but the kleptomania was the most memorable thing about Marie in the first season, and it's not something that should simply be forgotten. And if ever there were a time to give in to bad old patterns, it would be now, under so much emotional pressure from Hank and his situation.We know and understand why Marie doesn't want to be in that house, and now we see that she's developed an elaborate coping mechanism where she goes to open houses, invents a series of elaborate, contradictory fantasy lives for herself - the individual details don't matter, so long as each one isn't the life she has now - and then takes a memento from each house to remember those brief moments where she wasn't Marie Schrader, wife to bitter, paralyzed Hank.It was a great showcase for Brandt, and yet my favorite scene of that story didn't feature her on camera at all. Rather, it let Dean Norris do all the acting for both of them, with Hank's manner changing abruptly from the indignant "Are you seriously doing this to me again?" to the more tender "Will you stop crying?" Norris' face shows exactly what Hank heard in between to make him change that way. (Obviously, he says it, but you see it even before the words are out.)As for Jesse, not only has he not made any progress in getting over Gale's murder, he seems to be devolving - as is the party at his house, which has gone from bacchanal to an outer circle of Hell. He can numb himself briefly with go-kart racing, or by making the animals at the party go even more feral after he makes it rain with cash. But you can see in the desperate pleading in his eyes when he asks Walt to join him, or in the primal screams when he's behind the wheel of the go-kart, just how delicate his grip on it all has become. The usual great work from Aaron Paul throughout.And Skyler gets a victory over Bogdan because she happens to share her husband's stubborn streak - and also can exploit his own when it suits her purposes. (Skyler getting Walt on board with the plan by talking about how Bogdan insulted him was beautiful.) But as impressive as her victory was, the most notable Skyler scenes involved her once again grappling with the reality of this business she's becoming an accomplice to.We're so used to seeing Walt's drug life through his eyes or Jesse's that it's not a big deal that he would still have a shiner courtesy of Mike's beat-down last week. But to Skyler, this is an understandably terrifying thing, as is Saul's casual suggestion of inflicting violence on Bogdan. Obviously, some of this is willful blindness - Skyler doesn't know about the people Walt has killed, wouldn't want to know, and is focusing on the money laundering rather on the end users of Heisenberg's product - but for a few moments in this hour, we got what felt like a very different perspective on things we've come to take for granted.As an audience, we haven't been running in place - the show changes too much, too frequently, for that to happen - but perhaps some of our attitudes about Walt's work have. We've accepted by now that this is the business that he has chosen, that these are the risks, etc. Skyler hasn't been on this journey with us. It's all new and raw to her. And seeing it through her eyes may just force us to be less complacent about how we view that part of this great series.Some other thoughts:• In case you missed the late update to last week's review, I checked in with Vince Gilligan to clarify who called Walt when he was walking towards Gus's house, since half the commenters were convinced it was Gus, and the other half that it was Mike. Instead, it turned out to be Tyrus, the new guy who replaced Victor, weighed the meth batch last week and this week was surveilling Jesse's house.• The show has assembled a terrific rotating group of regular directors, but every now and then we get a special guest director, usually from the world of indie film. Last season, it was Rian Johnson ("Brick") handling the claustrophobia of "Fly," and tonight our man behind the camera was David Slade, who did "30 Days of Night" (and, more famously, "Twilight: Eclipse"), and who also directed my favorite network pilot of the season, NBC's "Awake." In such a collaborative show - especially one with a great director of photography like Michael Slovis - it's hard to ascribe any visual flourish to one man, but Slade and everyone else did especially strong work during the jump cuts of Jesse's go-kart trip and later when he made it rain at his house. • Perhaps to make up for Walt being relatively inconspicuous for the rest of the hour, Bryan Cranston got to solo in the pre-credits sequence, where he delivers a hilariously clenched response to the surveillance cameras. While I understand Gus's desire to keep tabs on his two valuable-but-mutinous employees, the idea of making recordings of the work in the Super Lab just reminds me of Stringer Bell asking Shamrock, "Is you taking notes on a criminal ####in' conspiracy?"• The non-parents among you are probably tired of me harping on just how placid and well-behaved Holly is, but I have to laugh every time the show cuts to her for a reaction shot while Skyler's busy conducting her latest scheme. A fussier baby would make this whole car wash plan much harder to pull off.
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'Christo said:
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
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:goodposting: Great episode. Good to see some ground being laid and characters developed. This isn't a drawn out summer action blockbuster. It is a show centered around great characters. These episodes are important. Jesse's house will become an issue. It's only been a couple days (hasn't it?).
 
'Christo said:
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.

My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
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I'm with you on that front Christo. The drug den is a little ridiculous and doesn't even seem fathomable. Loved the go cart scene and Jesse driving home but was really let down by the 'party'.
 
'Christo said:
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
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Agree that thought it was a great episode. On Jesse's house, the new guy (Victor's replacement) was in a car outside Jesse's house. The preview for next week showed Mike telling Gus something along the lines of someone getting careless. So, I think they are setting up for something.
 
It was a setup episode for sure. I enjoyed it, but not having Mike in the episode is the weak sauce. Mike is :moneybag: .

Saul and his bodyguard are hilarious. :lmao:

 
Interesting. Maybe it was mentioned before, but I missed it.

• In case you missed the late update to last week's review, I checked in with Vince Gilligan to clarify who called Walt when he was walking towards Gus's house, since half the commenters were convinced it was Gus, and the other half that it was Mike. Instead, it turned out to be Tyrus, the new guy who replaced Victor, weighed the meth batch last week and this week was surveilling Jesse's house.
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I wouldn't call it a "filler episode", but definitely a "setup episode" and I thought it was great. A few thoughts:

[*]The key part of the episode IMO was when Skyler was explaining how important all of the details were to Walt. Same type of thing that Walt did to Jessie when he was teaching him how to cook. This shows a few things to me (1) Walt is still slipping and clearly isn't focused (2) Skyler clearly is (3) How powerfull can they both be when they are both on their game

[*]Agree with the poster above, where it's only been a few days for Jessie's house...it will definitely become an issue. I don't think you focus on something that much without addressing it

[*]Hank realizing that he's being a ##### and then taking a look at the report that night was a great setup. He's finally turning the corner mentally.

[*]Assume that the dude in the car that kind of looked like Gus was in fact the same guy who called Walt on the phone?

 
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'Tiger Fan said:
I wouldn't call it a "filler episode", but definitely a "setup episode" and I thought it was great. A few thoughts:

[*]The key part of the episode IMO was when Skyler was explaining how important all of the details were to Hank. Same type of thing that Hank did to Jessie when he was teaching him how to cook. This shows a few things to me (1) Hank is still slipping and clearly isn't focused (2) Skyler clearly is (3) How powerfull can they both be when they are both on their game

[*]Agree with the poster above, where it's only been a few days for Jessie's house...it will definitely become an issue. I don't think you focus on something that much without addressing it

[*]Hank realizing that he's being a ##### and then taking a look at the report that night was a great setup. He's finally turning the corner mentally.



[*]Assume that the dude in the car that kind of looked like Gus was in fact the same guy who called Walt on the phone?
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I just reposted a snippet from Sepinwall's review which was posted earlier.

• In case you missed the late update to last week's review, I checked in with Vince Gilligan to clarify who called Walt when he was walking towards Gus's house, since half the commenters were convinced it was Gus, and the other half that it was Mike. Instead, it turned out to be Tyrus, the new guy who replaced Victor, weighed the meth batch last week and this week was surveilling Jesse's house.
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Key scene: Hank picking up the lab notes. This is a big turning point. Hanks was very close to breaking the Heisenberg case before he went on the DL. If he gets back in action, he start to figure it out...

Another key: Skylar is all in on the criminal activity. Eyebrows was a jerk, but they basically conned him.

 
'Tiger Fan said:
[*]The key part of the episode IMO was when Skyler was explaining how important all of the details were to Hank. Same type of thing that Hank did to Jessie when he was teaching him how to cook. This shows a few things to me (1) Hank is still slipping and clearly isn't focused (2) Skyler clearly is (3) How powerfull can they both be when they are both on their game
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don't you mean Walt here?

 
'biggamer3 said:
dont want to be that guy who rips on greatness but this episode was super filler to me. If you went from last episode to the next where it seems like shist will be getting crazy, i dont think you would have missed a thing. When Walt gets under 10 mins of screentime this show is not the same.PS anyone else was hoping Walt and Jess actually went Go Carting together? That scene and convo's would have been epic
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:goodposting: Since box cutter I've been fairly disappointed but looking at next week's episode hopefully it'll pick back up. The last three you could fall asleep too.
 
'Christo said:
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.

My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
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Extremely unrealistic beyond belief it's laughable
 
'Walton Goggins said:
'Christo said:
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.

My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
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Extremely unrealistic beyond belief it's laughable
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I didn't know you were an authority on drug dens.
 
'SmoovySmoov said:
'Walton Goggins said:
'Christo said:
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.

My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
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Extremely unrealistic beyond belief it's laughable
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I didn't know you were an authority on drug dens.
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Exactly, you don't know.
 
'joffer said:
'Tiger Fan said:
[*]The key part of the episode IMO was when Skyler was explaining how important all of the details were to Hank. Same type of thing that Hank did to Jessie when he was teaching him how to cook. This shows a few things to me (1) Hank is still slipping and clearly isn't focused (2) Skyler clearly is (3) How powerfull can they both be when they are both on their game
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don't you mean Walt here?
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Yeah, sorry. Guess there was too much Hank and not enough Walt on the episode last night.
 
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'Tiger Fan said:
I wouldn't call it a "filler episode", but definitely a "setup episode" and I thought it was great. A few thoughts:

[*]The key part of the episode IMO was when Skyler was explaining how important all of the details were to Walt. Same type of thing that Walt did to Jessie when he was teaching him how to cook. This shows a few things to me (1) Walt is still slipping and clearly isn't focused (2) Skyler clearly is (3) How powerfull can they both be when they are both on their game

[*]Agree with the poster above, where it's only been a few days for Jessie's house...it will definitely become an issue. I don't think you focus on something that much without addressing it

[*]Hank realizing that he's being a ##### and then taking a look at the report that night was a great setup. He's finally turning the corner mentally.

[*]Assume that the dude in the car that kind of looked like Gus was in fact the same guy who called Walt on the phone?
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My point was, it's not some sort of yuppie, industrial conversion neighborhood where parties happen a lot. This is his parents' neighborhood. If my Dad lived next door or across the street, the police would have already received a call.
 
'SmoovySmoov said:
'Walton Goggins said:
'Christo said:
I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.

My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
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Extremely unrealistic beyond belief it's laughable
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I didn't know you were an authority on drug dens.
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Not drug dens--middle class neighborhoods with older, white collar professionals living in close proximity. When I was a kid and we had parties in neighborhoods like that that spilled out on the street, the cops were there almost every time. And you can bet they'd have been there if the party was going the next day.
 
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