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Breaking Bad on AMC (2 Viewers)

I thought it was great. They can't have Gus cutting someone every episode. And I like what they've done with the women.

My only issue is with Jesse's house. Anyone else think it's a little unrealistic that a drug den with a 24 hour party could be going on in his neighborhood unnoticed?
Extremely unrealistic beyond belief it's laughable
I didn't know you were an authority on drug dens.
Not drug dens--middle class neighborhoods with older, white collar professionals living in close proximity. When I was a kid and we had parties in neighborhoods like that that spilled out on the street, the cops were there almost every time. And you can bet they'd have been there if the party was going the next day.
Yeah, I definitely see where you're going. But in the grand scheme of things, it's minor and I'm willing to look past it. If it never gets addressed, there's a serious issue obviously.
 
not sure they need to make Pinkman's agony so blatant.

i don't need to see the car explode in to 1000 pieces, melt and kill 33 people to know that a car crashed. subtletly is underrated.

 
Notice how Walt is trying to be very careful about how he spends money and not wanting to draw any unwanted attention to himself - although not good enough for Skylar it seems when he bought the champagne with cash to celebrate . Now compare that to Jesse.....

 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.

The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had.

The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.

 
not sure they need to make Pinkman's agony so blatant.

i don't need to see the car explode in to 1000 pieces, melt and kill 33 people to know that a car crashed. subtletly is underrated.
33 people died, huh? Was it a clown car?
of course. are you jerking me here?
of course not. :hifive:
would you agree that Paris is the capitol of France?
Capitol? No.
 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had. The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.
You're making a lot of assumptions which don't jibe with what I know about parties with a lot of drugs/alcohol available.
 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had. The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.
Yeah I think people have overstated this as well. There also seems to be some assumptions made about the neighbors when we haven't actually met any of Jessie's neighbors.
 
Did anyone else notice who the guy was that was passed on on the floor? The one Jesse was throwing money at?

 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had. The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.
Yeah I think people have overstated this as well. There also seems to be some assumptions made about the neighbors when we haven't actually met any of Jessie's neighbors.
Yeah, could be a bunch of college kids in all of those houses.
 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had. The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.
I agree with this.
 
Didn't get a chance to post this last week:

I'm pretty sure that the guy trying to take apart the roomba was doing the 21st century version of the "freebase crawl"

 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had. The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.
Yeah I think people have overstated this as well. There also seems to be some assumptions made about the neighbors when we haven't actually met any of Jessie's neighbors.
In Albuquerque, it's probably a bunch of 75 year olds who can't hear what's going on because they refuse to wear hearing aids.
 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had. The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.
You're making a lot of assumptions which don't jibe with what I know about parties with a lot of drugs/alcohol available.
Such as what? With this particular type of party scene, it's routine for people to show up and not step back outside, let alone leave the house, for days. I've read about guys like Rick James and LT who lived in much more expensive houses and better neighborhoods (i.e. upper class) who had this type of scene going on in their home for weeks, if not months, at a time. It's not at all implausible, imo.
 
not sure they need to make Pinkman's agony so blatant.

i don't need to see the car explode in to 1000 pieces, melt and kill 33 people to know that a car crashed. subtletly is underrated.
33 people died, huh? Was it a clown car?
of course. are you jerking me here?
of course not. :hifive:
would you agree that Paris is the capitol of France?
Capitol? No.
o, a, they're interchangeable, imoYMMV

 
I wouldn't call it a "filler episode", but definitely a "setup episode" and I thought it was great. A few thoughts:

[*]The key part of the episode IMO was when Skyler was explaining how important all of the details were to Walt. Same type of thing that Walt did to Jessie when he was teaching him how to cook. This shows a few things to me (1) Walt is still slipping and clearly isn't focused (2) Skyler clearly is (3) How powerfull can they both be when they are both on their game

[*]Agree with the poster above, where it's only been a few days for Jessie's house...it will definitely become an issue. I don't think you focus on something that much without addressing it

[*]Hank realizing that he's being a ##### and then taking a look at the report that night was a great setup. He's finally turning the corner mentally.

[*]Assume that the dude in the car that kind of looked like Gus was in fact the same guy who called Walt on the phone?
That part with Skyler was dumb in my opinion. They were celebrating the purchase of a new business that cost in the hundreds of thousands, but he can't spend $400 in cash at a liquor store that he probably never goes into? I do like that she is breaking bad as well and her mind for money is really going to be interesting to see. Also seeing Bill Burr was cool.

 
That part with Skyler was dumb in my opinion. They were celebrating the purchase of a new business that cost in the hundreds of thousands, but he can't spend $400 in cash at a liquor store that he probably never goes into?
Maybe it's not really about the money, it's just a power thing with Walt. She's establishing that she's going to decide on what it's OK for Walt to spend the money he makes. You know, like she's his wife or something.
 
I don't think the plotline of the parties occurring at Jessie's house without someone calling the police is as farfetched as people are making it out to be. Assuming there's not a nosy or bad neighbor living by his house, it's not unreasonable at all to have no one call the police on him at this point.The first party lasted 3 days, IIRC. For all we know, this is only the second extended party that Jessie has had. The windows and curtains/blinds on the house are closed. No one is loitering outside. In fact, we've only seen one partygoer outside leaving the party, this last episode, with the toaster oven or whatever he was carrying. And there doesn't appear to be any underage kids there which could arose suspicion.
Yeah I think people have overstated this as well. There also seems to be some assumptions made about the neighbors when we haven't actually met any of Jessie's neighbors.
Wasn't the house valued at 800k before Jesse blackmailed them down to like 400k? This is in Albuquerque too. They do seem to show a lot of scenes outside where it is quiet and little activity. Guess it's Gilligan trying to give the scenes some sort of plausibility.
 
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I wouldn't call it a "filler episode", but definitely a "setup episode" and I thought it was great. A few thoughts:

[*]The key part of the episode IMO was when Skyler was explaining how important all of the details were to Walt. Same type of thing that Walt did to Jessie when he was teaching him how to cook. This shows a few things to me (1) Walt is still slipping and clearly isn't focused (2) Skyler clearly is (3) How powerfull can they both be when they are both on their game

[*]Agree with the poster above, where it's only been a few days for Jessie's house...it will definitely become an issue. I don't think you focus on something that much without addressing it

[*]Hank realizing that he's being a ##### and then taking a look at the report that night was a great setup. He's finally turning the corner mentally.

[*]Assume that the dude in the car that kind of looked like Gus was in fact the same guy who called Walt on the phone?
That part with Skyler was dumb in my opinion. They were celebrating the purchase of a new business that cost in the hundreds of thousands, but he can't spend $400 in cash at a liquor store that he probably never goes into? I do like that she is breaking bad as well and her mind for money is really going to be interesting to see. Also seeing Bill Burr was cool.
:goodposting: IRS : Please provide us with proof on where you got the hundreds of thousands of dollars to allow you to purchase this car wash. We'll hang up and listen.

Busted. Done. Jail.

Perhaps because I am not making a living by dealing drugs but I am not "getting" this whole "you must buy a business to launder your money" when you have NO job to speak of. How can you get around the IRS when they come knocking on how you came up with the money to buy it in the first place? This money that's not deposited into any accounts and paid for in cash. And I am sure by setting it up as a dummy corp won't protect you from the IRS when it's clear you are running it and they want to know where the money came from to buy this business when you have no job.

 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show.

How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?

 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
Do they own the home? Not hard to get a business loan if you own your home. Especially if the home is worth way more then the loan amount. It could also explain why Skyler insisted on the car wash because Walt knows the business and would be easier to explain a business plan to a bank that involves leaving your current job to peruse owning your own business using your home as collateral. A bank could approve based on that information alone; if the business doesn’t work, they’re both skilled professionals and could go back to their professions to pay off the loan.Stretch, I know but I tried to make sense of this last night.
 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
Do they own the home? Not hard to get a business loan if you own your home. Especially if the home is worth way more then the loan amount. It could also explain why Skyler insisted on the car wash because Walt knows the business and would be easier to explain a business plan to a bank that involves leaving your current job to peruse owning your own business using your home as collateral. A bank could approve based on that information alone; if the business doesn’t work, they’re both skilled professionals and could go back to their professions to pay off the loan.Stretch, I know but I tried to make sense of this last night.
Can't get a loan if you don't have a job and looks like they are going to use cash (drug money)
 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
Do they own the home? Not hard to get a business loan if you own your home. Especially if the home is worth way more then the loan amount. It could also explain why Skyler insisted on the car wash because Walt knows the business and would be easier to explain a business plan to a bank that involves leaving your current job to peruse owning your own business using your home as collateral. A bank could approve based on that information alone; if the business doesn’t work, they’re both skilled professionals and could go back to their professions to pay off the loan.Stretch, I know but I tried to make sense of this last night.
I think that's a fair assessment. I'm not a small businessman or accountant or anything, but $800,000 doesn't strike me as difficult to come up with using legitimate means if you're a homeowner with good credit and potentially a two-income home and you're purchasing a profitable business and the real estate that goes with it. Plenty of collateral there. And obviously once the business is up and running you can pay off the debt as quickly as you think is acceptable to without setting off warning bells.
 
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Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
Do they own the home? Not hard to get a business loan if you own your home. Especially if the home is worth way more then the loan amount. It could also explain why Skyler insisted on the car wash because Walt knows the business and would be easier to explain a business plan to a bank that involves leaving your current job to peruse owning your own business using your home as collateral. A bank could approve based on that information alone; if the business doesn’t work, they’re both skilled professionals and could go back to their professions to pay off the loan.Stretch, I know but I tried to make sense of this last night.
are they actually getting a loan? if not, how would they explain the lack of paperwork to the IRS?or do we assume that Saul could create some dummy documents?
 
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Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
IRS wont care. They will be running millions of dollars through the car washes books and paying taxes on it. IRS will be happy.
 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
Do they own the home? Not hard to get a business loan if you own your home. Especially if the home is worth way more then the loan amount. It could also explain why Skyler insisted on the car wash because Walt knows the business and would be easier to explain a business plan to a bank that involves leaving your current job to peruse owning your own business using your home as collateral. A bank could approve based on that information alone; if the business doesn’t work, they’re both skilled professionals and could go back to their professions to pay off the loan.Stretch, I know but I tried to make sense of this last night.
I think that's a fair assessment. I'm not a small businessman or accountant or anything, but $800,000 doesn't strike me as difficult to come up with using legitimate means if you're a homeowner with good credit and you're purchasing a profitable business and the real estate that goes with it. Plenty of collateral there. And obviously once the business is up and running you can pay off the debt as quickly as you think is acceptable to without setting off warning bells.
you can't get a loan for that amount if you don't have a job. Perfect credit or not you must put down a big chunk. I know this personally. I know this is a TV show and all but when they both aren't working, have a fairly cheap mortgage on a house that doesn't cost much (I think under 200k) there's no way you can get a loan out if you aren't even working.
 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
Do they own the home? Not hard to get a business loan if you own your home. Especially if the home is worth way more then the loan amount. It could also explain why Skyler insisted on the car wash because Walt knows the business and would be easier to explain a business plan to a bank that involves leaving your current job to peruse owning your own business using your home as collateral. A bank could approve based on that information alone; if the business doesn’t work, they’re both skilled professionals and could go back to their professions to pay off the loan.Stretch, I know but I tried to make sense of this last night.
are they actually getting a loan? if not, how would they explain the lack of paperwork to the IRS?or do we assume that Saul could create some dummy documents?
Hadn't even thought about this, or the possibility that Saul knows of some shady lending institution that is happy to make what they know to be virtually no-risk loans. A shady lender could ask for the full payment plus a fee up front and just fabricate records to show monthly payments going forward.
 
I am hoping they tie this part out since we know Walt is one who is always covering his bases so to simply plop down that kind of money in drug money to buy a car wash doesn't make any sense. Will be interested to see how they do this or if Hal explains in more detail how they can w/o it ever tracing to Walt.

 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
IRS wont care. They will be running millions of dollars through the car washes books and paying taxes on it. IRS will be happy.
So the IRS doesn't care if you purchase a business with drug money as long as you later pay taxes on it? :confused: Good to know.
 
Do you guys even watch the show?

They spent a bunch of time developing the blackjack angle - Walt counts cards. Then they talked about getting casino receipts from a shady indian casino Saul set them up with, even mentioning that the casino is quite happy to write off losses. This is how they are paying for Hank's medical care. They further talked about this as a means to get the capital to pay for the business which is why they were reviewing laser tag and nail salons to begin with. Hell they even mentioned that the casino receipts are not a long term viable strategy which is why they need the shell business.

 
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I don't hate Skyler as much as others seem to. I don't mind the family scenes at all in small doses, and I liked it when she got involved and tried to talk Walt into buying the car wash instead of the laser tag thing. Her stuff in the Season 4 episode was pretty pointless, but that's only one episode.I also don't mind that she's on the somewhat heavy side. She's a chemistry teacher's wife; if she was hot it would be distractingly unrealistic. Kind of like when Dexter's wife got all tanned and toned and added a fake rack. It was nice eye candy, but it totally didn't fit her character or the character's station in life.
Skyler is brilliant casting. She looks like the part she's supposed to be playing. She's a very good actor and not just some talentless eye candy.
 
Oh and this exact same setup (must set up a dummy corp / get a business) was done in Weeds. So either this is actually what you need to do and you can honestly get away with it or they stole it from that show. How can one purchase a business for a few hundred thousand dollars in cash without having a job and when the IRS comes to you can you explain where this cash came from?
Do they own the home? Not hard to get a business loan if you own your home. Especially if the home is worth way more then the loan amount. It could also explain why Skyler insisted on the car wash because Walt knows the business and would be easier to explain a business plan to a bank that involves leaving your current job to peruse owning your own business using your home as collateral. A bank could approve based on that information alone; if the business doesnt work, theyre both skilled professionals and could go back to their professions to pay off the loan.Stretch, I know but I tried to make sense of this last night.
Can't get a loan if you don't have a job and looks like they are going to use cash (drug money)
Walt won the money gambling at the casino. End of story.Saul will even show you the receipt from the casino and proper tax forms.wrt the champagne - Skyler is a demasculating b****. Same as day one.
 
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I don't hate Skyler as much as others seem to. I don't mind the family scenes at all in small doses, and I liked it when she got involved and tried to talk Walt into buying the car wash instead of the laser tag thing. Her stuff in the Season 4 episode was pretty pointless, but that's only one episode.I also don't mind that she's on the somewhat heavy side. She's a chemistry teacher's wife; if she was hot it would be distractingly unrealistic. Kind of like when Dexter's wife got all tanned and toned and added a fake rack. It was nice eye candy, but it totally didn't fit her character or the character's station in life.
Skyler is brilliant casting. She looks like the part she's supposed to be playing. She's a very good actor and not just some talentless eye candy.
She ate the candy over the past season.
 
Aside from a rough stretch in season 2 with that ridiculous, monochromatic Tuco character, this show is brilliant. I think this new season is shaping up to be the best in the series. Breaking Bad is already in the top five all time dramas, and it's possible it'll end up at #2 for me right behind Deadwood. Love it. Genius.

 
Do you guys even watch the show? They spent a bunch of time developing the blackjack angle - Walt counts cards. Then they talked about getting casino receipts from a shady indian casino Saul set them up with, even mentioning that the casino is quite happy to write off losses. This is how they are paying for Hank's medical care. They further talked about this as a means to get the capital to pay for the business which is why they were reviewing laser tag and nail salons to begin with. Hell they even mentioned that the casino receipts are not a long term viable strategy which is why they need the shell business.
:goodposting: I forgot about this. :thumbup:
 

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