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I DO NOT EVER CALL PEOPLE OUT yet you as much as anyone on these boards go around and try to start #### with people every step of the way. I didn't try and make it personal, I stated an opinion and then you like most of the time are just trying to get a rise. I don't make the thread about me, you do.
:lmao:This thread has made it almost 100 pages discussing nothing but the show. You get here and that immediately changes. Why do you think that is?
 
I don't give a crap about whether Ted is back or not. I hope his storyline ends right here. Nice that they have options and I won't be upset if they use the Ted running his mouth option, but I hope they go other directions (they have plenty).

I certainly didn't get the feeling the "pulled a fast one" bringing him back. I assumed he was dead, but that was never remotely confirmed.

As mentioned, I'm just fired up Mike is back and it appears he'll be quite involved this season. IMO, with Mike playing a large role, it's virtually impossible to have a bad season. What a wonderfully acted and well-written character. He might be my favorite character on TV right now, and we really don't even know a damn thing about him.
I'd be fine with this too.The scene with Skyler served its purpose well.

Sh thinks of herself as a really savvy person who comes in to save the day.

The gambling story, the car wash purchase, first discovering Ted's illegalities, then fixing it for him.

This time, her savvy solution indirectly led to a very messed-up Ted.

She's not the problem-solving savior this time.

 
The way you keep treating possibilities as facts, then are disappointed with the direction the story moves tells me this program may not be right for you.
What is your obsession with me?Can you pull even 1 post where I start in with you? How many posts of yours can I pull where I am not talking to you and you butt right in with some slimy put down? Same with Bender.
 
I don't give a crap about whether Ted is back or not. I hope his storyline ends right here. Nice that they have options and I won't be upset if they use the Ted running his mouth option, but I hope they go other directions (they have plenty).

I certainly didn't get the feeling the "pulled a fast one" bringing him back. I assumed he was dead, but that was never remotely confirmed.

As mentioned, I'm just fired up Mike is back and it appears he'll be quite involved this season. IMO, with Mike playing a large role, it's virtually impossible to have a bad season. What a wonderfully acted and well-written character. He might be my favorite character on TV right now, and we really don't even know a damn thing about him.
Thank You as did most rational people
 
I don't give a crap about whether Ted is back or not. I hope his storyline ends right here. Nice that they have options and I won't be upset if they use the Ted running his mouth option, but I hope they go other directions (they have plenty).

I certainly didn't get the feeling the "pulled a fast one" bringing him back. I assumed he was dead, but that was never remotely confirmed.

As mentioned, I'm just fired up Mike is back and it appears he'll be quite involved this season. IMO, with Mike playing a large role, it's virtually impossible to have a bad season. What a wonderfully acted and well-written character. He might be my favorite character on TV right now, and we really don't even know a damn thing about him.
Thank You as did most rational people
 
Add in that Mike returned and Ted is not dead and they have quite a bit to work with for the next 15 episodes.
They made it seem like he died in the last episode of Season 4...then Saul announces he woke up, an act of God...just seemed forced to me.
They did not make "it seem like he died". The last shot of him was his fingers twitching. The reference to "Act of God" isn't that he woke up, that's the phrase Saul's men (Huell and the redheaded dude) used when reporting back to Saul that despite instructions that there was to be no violence, Ted got hurt. They meant that Ted getting hurt was not by their own doing, it was a self-caused accident, and more like getting hit by lightning (an act of god) than something they did to Ted.
Exactly...when Acts of God happen you are lead to believe he died by tripping and hitting his head. They showed Gus with half his face blown off adjusting his tie so it was not far fetched by the show's standards that Ted died or it was implied that Ted died. Now Ted is alive.
The way you keep treating possibilities as facts, then are disappointed with the direction the story moves tells me this program may not be right for you.
"act of God" and the symbolism of the oranges seemed to indicate that the writers wanted us to believe that he was dead. I agree they never said so definitively, but it still felt like a little bit of a walkback
Again, not alone in thinking this.
 
The way you keep treating possibilities as facts, then are disappointed with the direction the story moves tells me this program may not be right for you.
What is your obsession with me?Can you pull even 1 post where I start in with you? How many posts of yours can I pull where I am not talking to you and you butt right in with some slimy put down? Same with Bender.
So this is an IM with you and one other person here?We've been doing fine in here without your schtick.
 
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Honestly, I never felt he was dead until I read this thread. Wouldn't have minded if they had killed him off but this angle gives them a lot more possibilities. We've already seen Ted tip-toe around blackmail. We'll see if he is too scared to talk or if at some point he decides it's going to take some cash to keep quiet.
The TED angle is simple, finish the job. The guy is a total ####### so killing him would do nothing except make fans happy. They have killed a lot of people in the last couple season s so killing is not above Walt anymore. I can't imagine he would hesitate for a second in finishing this guy off. Send Mike and be down with it. I hate this storyline with Ted still alive. It just feels hokie and an excuse to inflict further agony on everyone including the audience :)Maybe this show is not for me.
 
I don't give a crap about whether Ted is back or not. I hope his storyline ends right here. Nice that they have options and I won't be upset if they use the Ted running his mouth option, but I hope they go other directions (they have plenty).

I certainly didn't get the feeling the "pulled a fast one" bringing him back. I assumed he was dead, but that was never remotely confirmed.

As mentioned, I'm just fired up Mike is back and it appears he'll be quite involved this season. IMO, with Mike playing a large role, it's virtually impossible to have a bad season. What a wonderfully acted and well-written character. He might be my favorite character on TV right now, and we really don't even know a damn thing about him.
I'd be fine with this too.The scene with Skyler served its purpose well.

Sh thinks of herself as a really savvy person who comes in to save the day.

The gambling story, the car wash purchase, first discovering Ted's illegalities, then fixing it for him.

This time, her savvy solution indirectly led to a very messed-up Ted.

She's not the problem-solving savior this time.
I did find that scene quite interesting.I need to watch it again, but first time around, I almost felt a mini-transformation in Skylar.

It seemed to me that she walked in horrified and freaked out by what she'd done.

At the end of the scene (after he said he wouldn't rat), she felt very matter of fact, cold and maybe a bit "gangsterish" to me. I think she just responded "good", but it felt like she was a cold-hearted, seasoned scumbag only interested just making sure he wouldn't rat (not terribly worked up about what's happened to him).

I might've read that completely wrong, but I remember feeling that at the time.

 
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I did find that scene quite interesting.I need to watch it again, but first time around, I almost felt a mini-transformation in Skylar.It seemed to me that she walked in horrified and freaked out by what she'd done.At the end of the scene (after he said he wouldn't rat), she felt very matter of fact, cold and maybe a bit "gangsterish" to me. I think she just responded "good", but it felt like she was a cold-hearted, seasoned scumbag.I might've read that completely wrong, but I remember feeling that at the time.
She was ice cold and I agree when she said "good" it was very gangsterish.
 
I don't give a crap about whether Ted is back or not. I hope his storyline ends right here. Nice that they have options and I won't be upset if they use the Ted running his mouth option, but I hope they go other directions (they have plenty).

I certainly didn't get the feeling the "pulled a fast one" bringing him back. I assumed he was dead, but that was never remotely confirmed.

As mentioned, I'm just fired up Mike is back and it appears he'll be quite involved this season. IMO, with Mike playing a large role, it's virtually impossible to have a bad season. What a wonderfully acted and well-written character. He might be my favorite character on TV right now, and we really don't even know a damn thing about him.
I'd be fine with this too.The scene with Skyler served its purpose well.

Sh thinks of herself as a really savvy person who comes in to save the day.

The gambling story, the car wash purchase, first discovering Ted's illegalities, then fixing it for him.

This time, her savvy solution indirectly led to a very messed-up Ted.

She's not the problem-solving savior this time.
I did find that scene quite interesting.I need to watch it again, but first time around, I almost felt a mini-transformation in Skylar.

It seemed to me that she walked in horrified and freaked out by what she'd done.

At the end of the scene (after he said he wouldn't rat), she felt very matter of fact, cold and maybe a bit "gangsterish" to me. I think she just responded "good", but it felt like she was a cold-hearted, seasoned scumbag.

I might've read that completely wrong, but I remember feeling that at the time.
I think you have it about right.She was severely shaken by the devastation in front of her. That she had a hand in.

She had to seize back control.

Her plans/schemes have always worked out pretty well (in her mind, perfectly).

Till now.

 
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I did find that scene quite interesting.I need to watch it again, but first time around, I almost felt a mini-transformation in Skylar.It seemed to me that she walked in horrified and freaked out by what she'd done.At the end of the scene (after he said he wouldn't rat), she felt very matter of fact, cold and maybe a bit "gangsterish" to me. I think she just responded "good", but it felt like she was a cold-hearted, seasoned scumbag.I might've read that completely wrong, but I remember feeling that at the time.
She was ice cold and I agree when she said "good" it was very gangsterish.
She responded to the fear. She liked it. It will be interesting to see how she reacts to that discovery.
 
A few notes:

Skyler getting afraid of Walt is interesting and she has reason to.

Walt become more of a predator for people like Saul and dictate to them just when their business together is finished.

The whole "because I said so" in the back of the car is very telling of Walt.

By the end of this season I think Walk kills hank if he gets too close with his investigation (the laptop was not the end of all the evidence).

 
I cant do this.

Should have re-titled the thread to "FBG MATH DISCUSSION THREAD" so MOP would have never figured out we were discussing the show in here.


Good, you do nothing but spread hate everywhere in this place, this is nothing more than an alias as it has been since the start. You do nothing but try and make fun of others on an internet message board, how sad.



I DO NOT EVER CALL PEOPLE OUT yet you as much as anyone on these boards go around and try to start #### with people every step of the way. I didn't try and make it personal, I stated an opinion and then you like most of the time are just trying to get a rise.



I don't make the thread about me, you do.
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I don't give a crap about whether Ted is back or not. I hope his storyline ends right here. Nice that they have options and I won't be upset if they use the Ted running his mouth option, but I hope they go other directions (they have plenty).

I certainly didn't get the feeling the "pulled a fast one" bringing him back. I assumed he was dead, but that was never remotely confirmed.

As mentioned, I'm just fired up Mike is back and it appears he'll be quite involved this season. IMO, with Mike playing a large role, it's virtually impossible to have a bad season. What a wonderfully acted and well-written character. He might be my favorite character on TV right now, and we really don't even know a damn thing about him.
I'd be fine with this too.The scene with Skyler served its purpose well.

Sh thinks of herself as a really savvy person who comes in to save the day.

The gambling story, the car wash purchase, first discovering Ted's illegalities, then fixing it for him.

This time, her savvy solution indirectly led to a very messed-up Ted.

She's not the problem-solving savior this time.
I did find that scene quite interesting.I need to watch it again, but first time around, I almost felt a mini-transformation in Skylar.

It seemed to me that she walked in horrified and freaked out by what she'd done.

At the end of the scene (after he said he wouldn't rat), she felt very matter of fact, cold and maybe a bit "gangsterish" to me. I think she just responded "good", but it felt like she was a cold-hearted, seasoned scumbag only interested just making sure he wouldn't rat (not terribly worked up about what's happened to him).

I might've read that completely wrong, but I remember feeling that at the time.
Totally agree. I was second guessing myself after reading Sepy's review as he painted Skylar as being emotional and not wanting to play the heavy hand whereas it seemed to be that she enjoyed being "gangsterish" and wanted to let Ted know that she was in control and really felt that way.

 
They never confirmed whether Ted was dead or not. It was not a walk-back, it was not trickery, it was not anything but what it was. :lmao: at some of the complaints in here.

 
I'm not sure that was some grand, or even "mini", transformation by Skylar. She had already thrown some weight at Ted. She had to respond to him the way she did in the hospital. She had no choice. If she let him think that his family was safe no matter what he did, then her family was threatened. She had to do that, it wasn't an ego, power, or whatever display.

 
I felt that Walt's dialogue felt overly dramatic and forced. I know he's the big boss now and all, but just hope the writters don't overdo it for the rest of the season.

A Mike based spin-off where he goes around fixing problems would be really fun.

 
I'm not sure that was some grand, or even "mini", transformation by Skylar. She had already thrown some weight at Ted. She had to respond to him the way she did in the hospital. She had no choice. If she let him think that his family was safe no matter what he did, then her family was threatened. She had to do that, it wasn't an ego, power, or whatever display.
I agree, but I do not think that was her intention when she went to visit him. His reaction dictated hers. Had he just laid there sympathetically, I am not sure how Skylar would have reacted.
 
I'm not sure that was some grand, or even "mini", transformation by Skylar. She had already thrown some weight at Ted. She had to respond to him the way she did in the hospital. She had no choice. If she let him think that his family was safe no matter what he did, then her family was threatened. She had to do that, it wasn't an ego, power, or whatever display.
I agree, but I do not think that was her intention when she went to visit him. His reaction dictated hers. Had he just laid there sympathetically, I am not sure how Skylar would have reacted.
No, of course not, you could see the recognition in her face when he said what he said and did it so convincingly. Although, who knows, I can see it having been written for her to go in genuinely broken up about what happened to him, but still getting the message across before leaving that his family was on the hook.
 
Perfectly reasonable to bring back Ted and (as I expect) use him as a plot device to demonstrate somebody's growing ruthlessness

Love that Mike is back in. That was really all I was hoping for coming in. Those three should be an awesomely entertaining dysfunctional team.

 
I felt that Walt's dialogue felt overly dramatic and forced. I know he's the big boss now and all, but just hope the writters don't overdo it for the rest of the season.

A Mike based spin-off where he goes around fixing problems would be really fun.
I actually think that is the point. He is trying to act like a kingpin. This while he still can't even enjoy a celebration glass of booze before panicking about the flowers. He isn't in control yet but wants so badly to be. So he oversells it.
 
Bender has been using that account for a long time. Pretty sure he was Common and Ghost of Common before that but he's not what I would call an "alias".

Let's move on. People don't have to engage MOP in every thread he enters.

 
Perfectly reasonable to bring back Ted and (as I expect) use him as a plot device to demonstrate somebody's growing ruthlessness

Love that Mike is back in. That was really all I was hoping for coming in. Those three should be an awesomely entertaining dysfunctional team.
I think he was always meant to be alive (and really hurt) for this exact reason. Basically, Skyler sent thugs to intimidate him, and he winds up very seriously injured (maybe even paralyzed from the waist down? We're not sure how injured.) And Skyler gets through her initial shock to be as cold as any criminal would be regarding it. She went from somewhat willing partner to Tony Soprano in an instant. Awesome. Ted really isn't needed anymore. I think the above is the point. Whether someone visits him in the hospital to smother him with a pillow is almost irrelevant.

 
Perfectly reasonable to bring back Ted and (as I expect) use him as a plot device to demonstrate somebody's growing ruthlessness

Love that Mike is back in. That was really all I was hoping for coming in. Those three should be an awesomely entertaining dysfunctional team.
I think he was always meant to be alive (and really hurt) for this exact reason. Basically, Skyler sent thugs to intimidate him, and he winds up very seriously injured (maybe even paralyzed from the waist down? We're not sure how injured.) And Skyler gets through her initial shock to be as cold as any criminal would be regarding it. She went from somewhat willing partner to Tony Soprano in an instant. Awesome. Ted really isn't needed anymore. I think the above is the point. Whether someone visits him in the hospital to smother him with a pillow is almost irrelevant.
I disagree. And if that's the case, then that is bad writing, which is not going to happen. She is not Tony Soprano. Her hand was forced there. It's possible that she will go in deeper and that this scene was a baby step in that process, but there isn't much to conclude from the hospital scene aside from the fact that Ted made it easy on her and all she had to do was not say that she would never hurt his family. She wouldn't hurt his family, and letting Ted fear that she might is not remotely the same thing.Of course Ted is relevant. He could sink them. And he screwed Walt's wife.

 
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I don't give a crap about whether Ted is back or not. I hope his storyline ends right here. Nice that they have options and I won't be upset if they use the Ted running his mouth option, but I hope they go other directions (they have plenty).

I certainly didn't get the feeling the "pulled a fast one" bringing him back. I assumed he was dead, but that was never remotely confirmed.

As mentioned, I'm just fired up Mike is back and it appears he'll be quite involved this season. IMO, with Mike playing a large role, it's virtually impossible to have a bad season. What a wonderfully acted and well-written character. He might be my favorite character on TV right now, and we really don't even know a damn thing about him.
Just putting this out there for anyone that watches spoilers / reads about spoilers / has Vince Gilligan as a regular customer buying milk at the Cumberland Farms that you work graveyard shift at - now I'm not saying this information was gleaned from any of the aforementioned, but now that the last season is being shown I wanted to get this out there for all of the spoiler fans:Do not discuss anything in this thread that has been revealed by a "spoiler".

I'd even go so far as to say start up a BREAKING BAD SPOILER thread to discuss all this stuff if you want - when people use spoiler tags in thread you get people respond with spoiler tags and you always get that knucklehead that doesn't know how to use spoiler tags and just starts discussing the information openly. I know I'm not alone here in that there are at least a few people in this thread that enjoy watching the show week-to-week without any insider information and try to avoid any and all spoiler information even if it means not watching anything on AMC until after BB is shown ending that week.

 
Perfectly reasonable to bring back Ted and (as I expect) use him as a plot device to demonstrate somebody's growing ruthlessness

Love that Mike is back in. That was really all I was hoping for coming in. Those three should be an awesomely entertaining dysfunctional team.
I think he was always meant to be alive (and really hurt) for this exact reason. Basically, Skyler sent thugs to intimidate him, and he winds up very seriously injured (maybe even paralyzed from the waist down? We're not sure how injured.) And Skyler gets through her initial shock to be as cold as any criminal would be regarding it. She went from somewhat willing partner to Tony Soprano in an instant. Awesome. Ted really isn't needed anymore. I think the above is the point. Whether someone visits him in the hospital to smother him with a pillow is almost irrelevant.
I disagree. And if that's the case, then that is bad writing, which is not going to happen. She is not Tony Soprano. Her hand was forced there. It's possible that she will go in deeper and that this scene was a baby step in that process, but there isn't much to conclude from the hospital scene aside from the fact that Ted made it easy on her and all she had to do was not say that she would never hurt his family. She wouldn't hurt his family, and letting Ted fear that she might is not remotely the same thing.Of course Ted is relevant. He could sink them. And he screwed Walt's wife.
This is why I tend to think Walt will handle it. Right now he knows everything so they'd have to introduce something else if they wanted to give Skyler a real motive to kill somebody herself, for the first time. But who knows, they could easily force a circumstance in which she does it.. I'm certainly not expecting any "bad writing" as I agree that would be unprecedented on this series.
 
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Perfectly reasonable to bring back Ted and (as I expect) use him as a plot device to demonstrate somebody's growing ruthlessness

Love that Mike is back in. That was really all I was hoping for coming in. Those three should be an awesomely entertaining dysfunctional team.
I think he was always meant to be alive (and really hurt) for this exact reason. Basically, Skyler sent thugs to intimidate him, and he winds up very seriously injured (maybe even paralyzed from the waist down? We're not sure how injured.) And Skyler gets through her initial shock to be as cold as any criminal would be regarding it. She went from somewhat willing partner to Tony Soprano in an instant. Awesome. Ted really isn't needed anymore. I think the above is the point. Whether someone visits him in the hospital to smother him with a pillow is almost irrelevant.
I disagree. And if that's the case, then that is bad writing, which is not going to happen. She is not Tony Soprano. Her hand was forced there. It's possible that she will go in deeper and that this scene was a baby step in that process, but there isn't much to conclude from the hospital scene aside from the fact that Ted made it easy on her and all she had to do was not say that she would never hurt his family. She wouldn't hurt his family, and letting Ted fear that she might is not remotely the same thing.Of course Ted is relevant. He could sink them. And he screwed Walt's wife.
Beginning with her cheating and cooking books, she has also been breaking bad. Her reaction to Ted's fear was another step in that direction but you could see in her face in the last scene that she isn't in a place to fully accept what Walt is. I also wonder if she misses being in charge of the relationship. Can she reconcile with Walt's newfound assertiveness?

 
Before reading any thread updates, I'll give my quick take on the episode last night.

It was an average (meaning good) episode. They had a couple of surprises, a couple of "oh ####" moments, and the story moved forward.

I'm not surprised Ted is alive because his "death" seemed like a shortcut that they would never take on this show. I think Ted is going to start extorting Skylar and Walt somehow.

I liked the magnet thing, although we still don't know if it worked for sure. There will probably be some data recovery that gives another clue.

Mike doesn't seem like quite as much of a badass now.

 
RE: Mike. He seems to know a lot of people, but with Gus no longer around, is a new Walt-led operation his best opportunity for steady work?

 
I wonder if the guilt eats Skyler alive and that plus her fear of Walt now leads her to tip Walt off to Hank. A stretch, maybe...but the dots would at least connect :shrug:

 
My mother in law has an interesting theory.

I'm going to put a spoiler tag on because if it ends up being the case it would be a huge twist. It's unlikely but if you don't want to think about huge twists, don't open.

Hank's DEA partner - Gomez - is in on everything. He was the one who warned Hank of the attack. If you look at his reactions to everything he does come off a little fishy. That would be a huge twist.
 
My mother in law has an interesting theory. I'm going to put a spoiler tag on because if it ends up being the case it would be a huge twist. It's unlikely but if you don't want to think about huge twists, don't open.

Hank's DEA partner - Gomez - is in on everything. He was the one who warned Hank of the attack. If you look at his reactions to everything he does come off a little fishy. That would be a huge twist.
I think your MIL is spot on with that.
 
My mother in law has an interesting theory. I'm going to put a spoiler tag on because if it ends up being the case it would be a huge twist. It's unlikely but if you don't want to think about huge twists, don't open.

Hank's DEA partner - Gomez - is in on everything. He was the one who warned Hank of the attack. If you look at his reactions to everything he does come off a little fishy. That would be a huge twist.
I think your MIL is spot on with that.Ohh, i like that
 
'comfortably numb said:
'meatwad1 said:
'17seconds said:
My mother in law has an interesting theory. I'm going to put a spoiler tag on because if it ends up being the case it would be a huge twist. It's unlikely but if you don't want to think about huge twists, don't open.

Hank's DEA partner - Gomez - is in on everything. He was the one who warned Hank of the attack. If you look at his reactions to everything he does come off a little fishy. That would be a huge twist.
I think your MIL is spot on with that.
Ohh, i like thatGood theory. It would explain some prior developments and provide a strong closing scene to one of the upcoming episodes.
 
'John Bender said:
MOP - do us a favor and just stop posting in this thread please. You are awful.
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: He sucks and still doesn't realize it. I can't concentrate on the non-Sean posts in this thread now.I can't even figure out how to put him on ignore. Go to his profile, then what? I don't see the "ignore" tab anymore.
 
'EYLive said:
I felt that Walt's dialogue felt overly dramatic and forced. I know he's the big boss now and all, but just hope the writters don't overdo it for the rest of the season.A Mike based spin-off where he goes around fixing problems would be really fun.
I thought it depended on the scene.The scene in the car with Mike and Jesse seemed forced. You could almost feel Mike rolling his eyes in his head. Do you really think Mike is scared of "Heisenburg"? Of course not. But I'm sure that's how the writers decided to write it.The scene with his lawyer and with Skylar seemed 100% legit. Both looked scared and you could tell he had flipped the switch.
 
'EYLive said:
I felt that Walt's dialogue felt overly dramatic and forced. I know he's the big boss now and all, but just hope the writters don't overdo it for the rest of the season.

A Mike based spin-off where he goes around fixing problems would be really fun.
I thought it depended on the scene.The scene in the car with Mike and Jesse seemed forced. You could almost feel Mike rolling his eyes in his head. Do you really think Mike is scared of "Heisenburg"? Of course not. But I'm sure that's how the writers decided to write it.

The scene with his lawyer and with Skylar seemed 100% legit. Both looked scared and you could tell he had flipped the switch.
I don't think he's "scared", but perhaps has some newfound respect. And maybe thinking he underestimated him some. Walt did beat Gus.

 
In the end, Ted being alive but seriously hurt was the best way to get out of the "Ted Situation". If he died, that would be a whole other loose string storyline that, IMO....would slow down these final episodes. Ted's hurt, scared and afraid for his family. He's done in the show.

 

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