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I think that's the point too. Trying to be a tough guy when he's deep down just a coward - and he knows it. Mike knows it too, he's not the least bit afraid of him.
Not sure how you call Walt a coward. He walked right into Tuco's den. He put his life on the line to save Jesse's. He just got done raiding a police station. He's not the badass he's pretending to be, but he's not a coward either.
He only did those things to protect his own interests - at that point he felt he had nothing to lose. And I hope you are not intimating he cares about Jesse? He'd off Jesse in a heartbeat if he thinks that's what he should do (and he still might). I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I can't stand Walt. I think this show has revealed that deep down Jesse is the one that has a shred of human decency.
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
 
Walt abandoned by everyone, even his family which was the original reason he went into the drug business ,relapses and dies of cancer, alone.
This is how I ultimately think it's going to end. Still a lot of holes to fill in...but I can see him reflecting on everything and the irony of it all, that he's going to die alone rather than die with family by his side.As a side note, I thought this was how Big Love should have finished up their series as well. Bill in jail for trying to bring everything to light to make his family "comfortable", when ultimately they could have just kept on living just fine the way they were.
 
I think that's the point too. Trying to be a tough guy when he's deep down just a coward - and he knows it. Mike knows it too, he's not the least bit afraid of him.
Not sure how you call Walt a coward. He walked right into Tuco's den. He put his life on the line to save Jesse's. He just got done raiding a police station. He's not the badass he's pretending to be, but he's not a coward either.
He only did those things to protect his own interests - at that point he felt he had nothing to lose. And I hope you are not intimating he cares about Jesse? He'd off Jesse in a heartbeat if he thinks that's what he should do (and he still might). I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I can't stand Walt. I think this show has revealed that deep down Jesse is the one that has a shred of human decency.
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
 
I think that's the point too. Trying to be a tough guy when he's deep down just a coward - and he knows it. Mike knows it too, he's not the least bit afraid of him.
Not sure how you call Walt a coward. He walked right into Tuco's den. He put his life on the line to save Jesse's. He just got done raiding a police station. He's not the badass he's pretending to be, but he's not a coward either.
He only did those things to protect his own interests - at that point he felt he had nothing to lose. And I hope you are not intimating he cares about Jesse? He'd off Jesse in a heartbeat if he thinks that's what he should do (and he still might). I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I can't stand Walt. I think this show has revealed that deep down Jesse is the one that has a shred of human decency.
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
Because he is now awake instead of sleeping through a boring life teaching kids who don't care, coming home to a ##### wife, and having a BIL who puffs his chest so much that his own son chooses the uncle over him (unless he gets pancakes every day). Walt is making up for lost time and rebuilding himself up on the inside due to some mistake(s) he made with that company before becoming a teacher. He thought of himself as a loser, and now he wins.
 
I think that's the point too. Trying to be a tough guy when he's deep down just a coward - and he knows it. Mike knows it too, he's not the least bit afraid of him.
Not sure how you call Walt a coward. He walked right into Tuco's den. He put his life on the line to save Jesse's. He just got done raiding a police station. He's not the badass he's pretending to be, but he's not a coward either.
He only did those things to protect his own interests - at that point he felt he had nothing to lose. And I hope you are not intimating he cares about Jesse? He'd off Jesse in a heartbeat if he thinks that's what he should do (and he still might). I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I can't stand Walt. I think this show has revealed that deep down Jesse is the one that has a shred of human decency.
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
Hence, the title of the show.
 
I think that's the point too. Trying to be a tough guy when he's deep down just a coward - and he knows it. Mike knows it too, he's not the least bit afraid of him.
Not sure how you call Walt a coward. He walked right into Tuco's den. He put his life on the line to save Jesse's. He just got done raiding a police station. He's not the badass he's pretending to be, but he's not a coward either.
He only did those things to protect his own interests - at that point he felt he had nothing to lose. And I hope you are not intimating he cares about Jesse? He'd off Jesse in a heartbeat if he thinks that's what he should do (and he still might). I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I can't stand Walt. I think this show has revealed that deep down Jesse is the one that has a shred of human decency.
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
Because he is now awake instead of sleeping through a boring life teaching kids who don't care, coming home to a ##### wife, and having a BIL who puffs his chest so much that his own son chooses the uncle over him (unless he gets pancakes every day). Walt is making up for lost time and rebuilding himself up on the inside due to some mistake(s) he made with that company before becoming a teacher. He thought of himself as a loser, and now he wins.
No doubt, and it's part of what makes the show so compelling. I almost expect an episode this season where he ties up Elliot and makes him watch as he has his way with Gretchen.
 
'TexanFan02 said:
I think that's the point too. Trying to be a tough guy when he's deep down just a coward - and he knows it. Mike knows it too, he's not the least bit afraid of him.
Not sure how you call Walt a coward. He walked right into Tuco's den. He put his life on the line to save Jesse's. He just got done raiding a police station. He's not the badass he's pretending to be, but he's not a coward either.
He only did those things to protect his own interests - at that point he felt he had nothing to lose. And I hope you are not intimating he cares about Jesse? He'd off Jesse in a heartbeat if he thinks that's what he should do (and he still might). I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I can't stand Walt. I think this show has revealed that deep down Jesse is the one that has a shred of human decency.
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
I don't think we're supposed to like Walt anymore.
:goodposting:
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection? :no: it's for Ted
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
:no: it's for TedLord knows he deserves the overkill.
 
Are people really complaining about Sunday's premiere? It was awesome.
I loved it. Teaser at the start that totally distracts you of the things season 4 left you wanting more of, then a nice 45min plot that moves right along. Skylar loved the power she felt in that hospital room with Ted. She's breaking too.
 
So just because I am kind of dense: The opening sequence was a dream sequence?
Was a flash forward.
I assume it's similar to the floating pink stuffed animal/eyeball thing from before the plane crash, which was the first episode of the season but had no context at all until the season finale.
If Walt uses that weapon to spray bullets across a mob of enemies before getting riddled with bullets himself in the final scene, I'll probably be at full-wood.
 
I am surprised that they do not do a one hour review of the storyline covering the major points and story lines of the previous seasons. It would be great for ratings and would likely capture a larger audience that might want to go back to see the previous seasons. I guess the argument would be that it would hurt DVD sales but who knows. Didn't Lost do something like that?

 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.
He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.Yep. he said something to the waitress about how long a drive it was from NH.
 
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.
He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.I assumed he was in ABQ since he bought the gun from the same gun dealer he bought a pistol from before...plus he said he was about a 30 hour drive from NH if you only stop for gas, and that's about right.Interesting he mentioned only stopping for gas. He was obviously in a hurry to get there - crap and fan must be about to meet.
 
I am surprised that they do not do a one hour review of the storyline covering the major points and story lines of the previous seasons. It would be great for ratings and would likely capture a larger audience that might want to go back to see the previous seasons. I guess the argument would be that it would hurt DVD sales but who knows. Didn't Lost do something like that?
With the availability of digital media, Netflix, DVDs, etc it pays to create a good show that requires you to watch every episode to understand it.I wouldn't do a show any other way. Making each episode self-contained takes more effort, dilutes the story, and is basically giving money away.
 
The last 4 or 5 pages of this thread make me wonder if people actually watch the show or just have it in the background while they do a Jumble.

 
Are people really complaining about Sunday's premiere? It was awesome.
I loved it. The flash forward, Walt and Jesse hooking up with Mike, the return of the junkyard lawyer, Skyler visiting Ted in the hospital, the magnet mission, Walt forgiving Skyler, it was all great. But this episode didn't have anyone's throat getting slit with a box cutter, so the shock value was much lower than last season's premire.It could've used more Hank, but other than that I've got no complaints.
 
I think Walt will end up outing himself, either directly or indirectly. he wants everyone to know what he's doing. he can't stand it when someone else gets the credit for one of his plans. in the last episode, he seemed pretty annoyed when Junior was calling Hank a hero for bringing Gus down.

he's doing everything right now to cover his tracks, but as his ego and power grows, I can see him saying in some capacity "F it...it's me. I'm the one you want. now try and stop me."

 
I am surprised that they do not do a one hour review of the storyline covering the major points and story lines of the previous seasons. It would be great for ratings and would likely capture a larger audience that might want to go back to see the previous seasons. I guess the argument would be that it would hurt DVD sales but who knows. Didn't Lost do something like that?
With the availability of digital media, Netflix, DVDs, etc it pays to create a good show that requires you to watch every episode to understand it.I wouldn't do a show any other way. Making each episode self-contained takes more effort, dilutes the story, and is basically giving money away.
No idea how it compares to DVD and streaming royalties, but I'd assume syndication is a pretty big draw for shows with self-contained episodes.
 
An explanation for how the magnet would/would not work:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407192,00.asp
I wish everyone would quit quoting PCMag, they are a bunch of buffoons over there:“No way to ensure the Breaking Bad method would work.”

“The strength of a junkyard magnet is unknown.”

And best one of that article:

“Magnetic metal used in vaults would have a shielding effect and regardless if there is metal in that wall it is still a wall.”

For example.

 
An explanation for how the magnet would/would not work:

http://www.pcmag.com...,2407192,00.asp
I wish everyone would quit quoting PCMag, they are a bunch of buffoons over there:"No way to ensure the Breaking Bad method would work."

"The strength of a junkyard magnet is unknown."

And best one of that article:

"Magnetic metal used in vaults would have a shielding effect and regardless if there is metal in that wall it is still a wall."

For example.
Yeah, I thought that article was a terrible waste of time.Here's a better one. It does come to basically the same conclusion, but with actual testing and math involved.

 
So just because I am kind of dense: The opening sequence was a dream sequence?
Was a flash forward.
I assume it's similar to the floating pink stuffed animal/eyeball thing from before the plane crash, which was the first episode of the season but had no context at all until the season finale.
If by season you mean the first 8 episodes, then I agree. I think it is basically the opening to the last 8, or season 6 (i.e., next year)
 
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'dozer said:
'identikit said:
'Charlie Frown said:
'CBusAlex said:
'Socrates11 said:
'Charlie Frown said:
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.
He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.Interesting that his fake id had him as Mr Lambert, which is Skyler and Marie's maiden names...
 
Do we know if the opening teaser is going to be resolved by the end of this "season" or if it's a glimpse into the series finale?

Just wondering if they're really treating these like two mini-seasons, or one whole season with a big hiatus in between halves.

 
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Do we know if the opening teaser is going to be resolved by the end of this "season" or if it's a glimpse into the series finale?Just wondering if they're really treating these like two mini-seasons, or one whole season with a big hiatus in between halves.
No clue as to the when.
 
'Breaking Bad' Creator Considering a Saul Goodman Spin-Off

We're only one episode into the first half of the final season of Breaking Bad and, if you're like me, you're already dreading the end. Vince Gilligan's show is so good, so tense and so fun that every episode is like Christmas morning. With meth and murder. Still, every great show has to end and Breaking Bad has eight total episodes this year and then eight total episodes next year before hanging up the lab coat. The show runner hasn't decided what he'll do after that, there's still lots to do with this show, but one idea he's floated around is a spin-off centering on Bob Odenkirk's sleazy, but smart, lawyer character Saul Goodman.

Gilligan spoke to IndieWire at Comic-Con and said that he and Odenkirk have talked about a possible spin-off and though it's not in any sort of stage of production, he thinks it could work:

I would love to see a Saul Goodman spinoff. I can't say that it is genuinely in the works at this moment, but certainly Bob Odenkirk and I have talked about it a little bit. I can't promise that it will ever happen, but I think I personally, as fan number one of this world, meaning the first one to partake of these plot moments and whatnot, I personally would love to tune in and see a good Saul Goodman show.

I like the idea of a lawyer show in which the main lawyer will do anything it takes to stay out of a court of law. He'll settle on the courthouse steps, whatever it takes to stay out of the courtroom. That would be fun — I would like that.

Kind of Law and Order without any law or order. If Odenkirk is involved, sign me up.
 
'Wingnut said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'dozer said:
'identikit said:
'Charlie Frown said:
'CBusAlex said:
'Socrates11 said:
'Charlie Frown said:
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.
He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.
I assumed he was in ABQ since he bought the gun from the same gun dealer he bought a pistol from before...plus he said he was about a 30 hour drive from NH if you only stop for gas, and that's about right.Interesting he mentioned only stopping for gas. He was obviously in a hurry to get there - crap and fan must be about to meet.Didn't the waitress ask if he was going to California?
 
'Wingnut said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'dozer said:
'identikit said:
'Charlie Frown said:
'CBusAlex said:
'Socrates11 said:
'Charlie Frown said:
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
Personal protection?
In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.
He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.
I assumed he was in ABQ since he bought the gun from the same gun dealer he bought a pistol from before...plus he said he was about a 30 hour drive from NH if you only stop for gas, and that's about right.Interesting he mentioned only stopping for gas. He was obviously in a hurry to get there - crap and fan must be about to meet.
Didn't the waitress ask if he was going to California?Yes, and he said no, and that he was here on "business" (to buy a gun and who knows what else)
 
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