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Breaking Bad on AMC (4 Viewers)

'comfortably numb said:
'Wingnut said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'dozer said:
'identikit said:
'Charlie Frown said:
'CBusAlex said:
'Socrates11 said:
'Charlie Frown said:
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
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Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
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If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
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So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
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Personal protection?
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In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- “I’ve got your word…this doesn’t cross the border?”Walt- “It will never leave town”.So I guess we assume he’s going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike’s friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score’s to exchange for something else.
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He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.
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I assumed he was in ABQ since he bought the gun from the same gun dealer he bought a pistol from before...plus he said he was about a 30 hour drive from NH if you only stop for gas, and that's about right.Interesting he mentioned only stopping for gas. He was obviously in a hurry to get there - crap and fan must be about to meet.
Didn't the waitress ask if he was going to California?Which supports that he is still in ABQ. Obviously, 40 is a common route for people going west to southern California.
 
'Wingnut said:
'comfortably numb said:
'Wingnut said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'dozer said:
'identikit said:
'Charlie Frown said:
'CBusAlex said:
'Socrates11 said:
'Charlie Frown said:
For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
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Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
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If you had told me at the end of season 2 that the series would end with Walt dying alone and penniless, I would have been disappointed. Now, I'll be kind of disappointed if it doesn't.
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So have we started speculating on
who the machine gun is for?
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Personal protection?
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In the opening scene the conversation in the restroom goes something like this:Gun Runner- "I've got your word…this doesn't cross the border?"Walt- "It will never leave town".So I guess we assume he's going to hole up and battle it out with a bunch of DEA agents, cartel guys, or maybe a gang of Mike's friends. A battle royale in New Hampshire?Maybe the M-60 is something he score's to exchange for something else.
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He wasnt in new hampshire. Just had new id and plates from there. I assume they were in NM still but cant be sure.
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I assumed he was in ABQ since he bought the gun from the same gun dealer he bought a pistol from before...plus he said he was about a 30 hour drive from NH if you only stop for gas, and that's about right.Interesting he mentioned only stopping for gas. He was obviously in a hurry to get there - crap and fan must be about to meet.
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Didn't the waitress ask if he was going to California?
Yes, and he said no, and that he was here on "business".I didn't really get the question about California.Guess I-40 would be the road of choice to get there.Maybe in ABQ it's just assumed you're on the way to somewhere else.
 
'jdoggydogg said:
'Breaking Bad' Creator Considering a Saul Goodman Spin-Off

We're only one episode into the first half of the final season of Breaking Bad and, if you're like me, you're already dreading the end. Vince Gilligan's show is so good, so tense and so fun that every episode is like Christmas morning. With meth and murder. Still, every great show has to end and Breaking Bad has eight total episodes this year and then eight total episodes next year before hanging up the lab coat. The show runner hasn't decided what he'll do after that, there's still lots to do with this show, but one idea he's floated around is a spin-off centering on Bob Odenkirk's sleazy, but smart, lawyer character Saul Goodman.

Gilligan spoke to IndieWire at Comic-Con and said that he and Odenkirk have talked about a possible spin-off and though it's not in any sort of stage of production, he thinks it could work:

I would love to see a Saul Goodman spinoff. I can't say that it is genuinely in the works at this moment, but certainly Bob Odenkirk and I have talked about it a little bit. I can't promise that it will ever happen, but I think I personally, as fan number one of this world, meaning the first one to partake of these plot moments and whatnot, I personally would love to tune in and see a good Saul Goodman show.

I like the idea of a lawyer show in which the main lawyer will do anything it takes to stay out of a court of law. He'll settle on the courthouse steps, whatever it takes to stay out of the courtroom. That would be fun — I would like that.

Kind of Law and Order without any law or order. If Odenkirk is involved, sign me up.
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Sounds cool in theory, but Saul is great in small doses on BB, Im not sure how or if it would work if he was the main character. How many great Saul-type lines would/could they work in, and at what ratio? It would be tough, IMO to keep the edge to his character.
 
'Socrates11 said:
'Charlie Frown said:
'Jed said:
'PlasmaDogPlasma said:
'Jed said:
I think that's the point too. Trying to be a tough guy when he's deep down just a coward - and he knows it. Mike knows it too, he's not the least bit afraid of him.
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Not sure how you call Walt a coward. He walked right into Tuco's den. He put his life on the line to save Jesse's. He just got done raiding a police station. He's not the badass he's pretending to be, but he's not a coward either.
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He only did those things to protect his own interests - at that point he felt he had nothing to lose. And I hope you are not intimating he cares about Jesse? He'd off Jesse in a heartbeat if he thinks that's what he should do (and he still might). I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I can't stand Walt. I think this show has revealed that deep down Jesse is the one that has a shred of human decency.
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For the first time I am actually starting to dislike Walt.
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Dislike might be strong, but he is definitely morphing into something much darker. I liked him more when it seemed he only wanted to 'cook' to provide his family with some money when he died from cancer. Now he seems to enjoy being a ruthless drug lord more than anything.
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He was willing to endanger the life of a child. I'm not sure there's any moral ambiguity to Walt left. He's a bad guy.
 
'Wingnut said:
'jdoggydogg said:
'Breaking Bad' Creator Considering a Saul Goodman Spin-Off

We're only one episode into the first half of the final season of Breaking Bad and, if you're like me, you're already dreading the end. Vince Gilligan's show is so good, so tense and so fun that every episode is like Christmas morning. With meth and murder. Still, every great show has to end and Breaking Bad has eight total episodes this year and then eight total episodes next year before hanging up the lab coat. The show runner hasn't decided what he'll do after that, there's still lots to do with this show, but one idea he's floated around is a spin-off centering on Bob Odenkirk's sleazy, but smart, lawyer character Saul Goodman.

Gilligan spoke to IndieWire at Comic-Con and said that he and Odenkirk have talked about a possible spin-off and though it's not in any sort of stage of production, he thinks it could work:

I would love to see a Saul Goodman spinoff. I can't say that it is genuinely in the works at this moment, but certainly Bob Odenkirk and I have talked about it a little bit. I can't promise that it will ever happen, but I think I personally, as fan number one of this world, meaning the first one to partake of these plot moments and whatnot, I personally would love to tune in and see a good Saul Goodman show.

I like the idea of a lawyer show in which the main lawyer will do anything it takes to stay out of a court of law. He'll settle on the courthouse steps, whatever it takes to stay out of the courtroom. That would be fun — I would like that.

Kind of Law and Order without any law or order. If Odenkirk is involved, sign me up.
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Sounds cool in theory, but Saul is great in small doses on BB, Im not sure how or if it would work if he was the main character. How many great Saul-type lines would/could they work in, and at what ratio? It would be tough, IMO to keep the edge to his character.
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I'd say the success or failure of this show would lie in the writing and supporting cast. If those two are in place, I think we have a winner.
 
'identikit said:
I didn't really get the question about California.

Guess I-40 would be the road of choice to get there.

Maybe in ABQ it's just assumed you're on the way to somewhere else.
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This is my guess. I think she probably asks that question to most people she sees that are driving from back east. As a waitress in a Denny's, she probably sees lots of travelers driving from there as ABQ is just along the way.
 
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'jdoggydogg said:
'Breaking Bad' Creator Considering a Saul Goodman Spin-Off

We're only one episode into the first half of the final season of Breaking Bad and, if you're like me, you're already dreading the end. Vince Gilligan's show is so good, so tense and so fun that every episode is like Christmas morning. With meth and murder. Still, every great show has to end and Breaking Bad has eight total episodes this year and then eight total episodes next year before hanging up the lab coat. The show runner hasn't decided what he'll do after that, there's still lots to do with this show, but one idea he's floated around is a spin-off centering on Bob Odenkirk's sleazy, but smart, lawyer character Saul Goodman.

Gilligan spoke to IndieWire at Comic-Con and said that he and Odenkirk have talked about a possible spin-off and though it's not in any sort of stage of production, he thinks it could work:

I would love to see a Saul Goodman spinoff. I can't say that it is genuinely in the works at this moment, but certainly Bob Odenkirk and I have talked about it a little bit. I can't promise that it will ever happen, but I think I personally, as fan number one of this world, meaning the first one to partake of these plot moments and whatnot, I personally would love to tune in and see a good Saul Goodman show.

I like the idea of a lawyer show in which the main lawyer will do anything it takes to stay out of a court of law. He'll settle on the courthouse steps, whatever it takes to stay out of the courtroom. That would be fun — I would like that.

Kind of Law and Order without any law or order. If Odenkirk is involved, sign me up.
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I would totally give this show a chance. Not sure if it should be driven by Saul, or his various clients...

 
'Socrates11 said:
'jdoggydogg said:
'Breaking Bad' Creator Considering a Saul Goodman Spin-Off

We're only one episode into the first half of the final season of Breaking Bad and, if you're like me, you're already dreading the end. Vince Gilligan's show is so good, so tense and so fun that every episode is like Christmas morning. With meth and murder. Still, every great show has to end and Breaking Bad has eight total episodes this year and then eight total episodes next year before hanging up the lab coat. The show runner hasn't decided what he'll do after that, there's still lots to do with this show, but one idea he's floated around is a spin-off centering on Bob Odenkirk's sleazy, but smart, lawyer character Saul Goodman.

Gilligan spoke to IndieWire at Comic-Con and said that he and Odenkirk have talked about a possible spin-off and though it's not in any sort of stage of production, he thinks it could work:

I would love to see a Saul Goodman spinoff. I can't say that it is genuinely in the works at this moment, but certainly Bob Odenkirk and I have talked about it a little bit. I can't promise that it will ever happen, but I think I personally, as fan number one of this world, meaning the first one to partake of these plot moments and whatnot, I personally would love to tune in and see a good Saul Goodman show.

I like the idea of a lawyer show in which the main lawyer will do anything it takes to stay out of a court of law. He'll settle on the courthouse steps, whatever it takes to stay out of the courtroom. That would be fun — I would like that.

Kind of Law and Order without any law or order. If Odenkirk is involved, sign me up.
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I would totally give this show a chance. Not sure if it should be driven by Saul, or his various clients...
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Might work with Mike as his muscle.If he survives.

 
Anyone see Cranston on Conan last nite? They showed a clip from the next episode, looked like a snippet from a pretty good scene, Mike had a great line and of course was money with the delivery.

I know its better to end the series before it gets old, but I'm gonna hate seeing it end.

 
'The Noid said:
Do we know if the opening teaser is going to be resolved by the end of this "season" or if it's a glimpse into the series finale?Just wondering if they're really treating these like two mini-seasons, or one whole season with a big hiatus in between halves.
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On the insider podcast they said that the writers considered putting the entire rest of the series in the future, about one year after Walt kills Gus. In the end there were just too many loose threads they wanted to tie up. My guess is that they tie up the loose ends with 51 year old Walt this year, then complete the series with 52 year old Walt next year.
 
'wildbill said:
'The Noid said:
Do we know if the opening teaser is going to be resolved by the end of this "season" or if it's a glimpse into the series finale?

Just wondering if they're really treating these like two mini-seasons, or one whole season with a big hiatus in between halves.
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On the insider podcast they said that the writers considered putting the entire rest of the series in the future, about one year after Walt kills Gus. In the end there were just too many loose threads they wanted to tie up. My guess is that they tie up the loose ends with 51 year old Walt this year, then complete the series with 52 year old Walt next year.
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I think this is pretty close. That fast-forward would be a great way to start season 5½. My only concern is it seems like they have a lot of ground to cover to get there in 7 more episodes.
 
FYI

Episode 4 of this season is titled "Fifty-One"

For those wondering when the flash forward would be wrapped up, I'd say NEXT half season (2013).

I would think the episode title references Walt's 51st birthday

 
Watched 1st episode again. The flash forward is ominous since the waitress sees his id and then calls his name out as he's leaving, meanwhile black dude at the counter kept looking at Walt. Leaving a $100 tip cements the memory in the girls mind

 
Do you think there's any way Walt pulls off his plan to kill Gus if Mike isn't down in Mexico recovering from a gunshot wound? I don't think that happens on Mike's watch.

 
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'Sarnoff said:
'Uruk-Hai said:
Can someone refresh my memory on how Walt poisoned the kid?
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It wasn't really explained. Sort of hand-waved at; I think the implication is Saul did it.
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Well Saul had his guy steal the ricin cig somehow from the pack in Jesse's pocket. How he got one specific cig out of there is beyond me though.
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Yeah thats a tough one to swallow. Hopefully they go into more depth about how he got it out but I doubt it.However I am almost 100% sure that how the kid was poisoned will definitely come out and become a key point in the plot.
 
'pantherclub said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
'Sarnoff said:
'Uruk-Hai said:
Can someone refresh my memory on how Walt poisoned the kid?
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It wasn't really explained. Sort of hand-waved at; I think the implication is Saul did it.
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Well Saul had his guy steal the ricin cig somehow from the pack in Jesse's pocket. How he got one specific cig out of there is beyond me though.
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Yeah thats a tough one to swallow. Hopefully they go into more depth about how he got it out but I doubt it.However I am almost 100% sure that how the kid was poisoned will definitely come out and become a key point in the plot.
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Thanks guys - thought I was losing my mind. My GF just caught up and was asking me how Walt did it; I couldn't recall and thought it was just one more sign of old age catching up to me.
 
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
Well Saul had his guy steal the ricin cig somehow from the pack in Jesse's pocket. How he got one specific cig out of there is beyond me though.
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In an episode prior, Jesse showed Walt the cigarette pack. Walt told Saul what brand. Huell replaced the whole pack, he didn't just lift one cigarette.
 
'Uruk-Hai said:
Can someone refresh my memory on how Walt poisoned the kid?
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My guess is that Saul's other guy (Burr) did it. Probably put it in some ice cream or candy or something. I think the kid end up id'ing him at some point and then Jesse starts to put it together.
 
'phishphan said:
'Sarnoff said:
'Leeroy Jenkins said:
Well Saul had his guy steal the ricin cig somehow from the pack in Jesse's pocket. How he got one specific cig out of there is beyond me though.
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In an episode prior, Jesse showed Walt the cigarette pack. Walt told Saul what brand. Huell replaced the whole pack, he didn't just lift one cigarette.
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:goodposting: that's what I'm thinking.
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Could very well be but smokers tend to have a good idea how many cigs they have left. Especially if it's a brand new pack or if they are nearly out.
 
just finished season 4.. what an awesome ending

i have no idea what season 5 will be about

im guessing its the last season

 
My guess relating to the flash forward where Walt was in the restaurant and ends up buying that gun is that the $100 that he tips the waitress for his free birthday meal was the last of his money. No idea where he goes from there or what he does with the gun, but I believe he goes broke.

 
'SayWhat? said:
My guess relating to the flash forward where Walt was in the restaurant and ends up buying that gun is that the $100 that he tips the waitress for his free birthday meal was the last of his money. No idea where he goes from there or what he does with the gun, but I believe he goes broke.
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I got caught up a month or so ago after watching 4 seasons on netflix and ripping the last season...I have been of the opinion that every dollar he makes goes out the window and he dies just as broke as he was when he started. I think I formulated that opinion sometime early in season 2 but I am not sure. The cost of security when you are that big of a criminal is enormous.
 
'SayWhat? said:
My guess relating to the flash forward where Walt was in the restaurant and ends up buying that gun is that the $100 that he tips the waitress for his free birthday meal was the last of his money. No idea where he goes from there or what he does with the gun, but I believe he goes broke.
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nice catch
 
The audio is all messed up for me on AMCHD on DirecTV. :boxing:

Not sure I'm going to be able to watch this tonight. Anyone else having audio difficulties on AMC?

 
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