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[Bigboy10182000]

Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

They could light that money on fire. It has been established that 10M is nothing to these people. They'll just write a check and be done with it.

Then the hit men would have to kill them. Walt specifically told them not to give Flynn a dime of their own money.

HFS, you seriously need something else to do with your time...buy a dog or something.

 

[dparker713]

Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

Edit: Also, to address the "but it's pocket change to a billionaire" point, that doesn't matter. Billionaires generally don't like going to prison, and they also don't like having all their assets seized.

I think you're significantly overestimating the difficulty for Elliot and Gretchen to get that money deposited overseas. Even if they don't get a private banker to do it - private jet to Cayman/Isle of Mann/Switzerland, meet security detail, walk in, deposit money. Chances of them getting caught are essentially zero.

 

[FlapJacks]

Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

Edit: Also, to address the "but it's pocket change to a billionaire" point, that doesn't matter. Billionaires generally don't like going to prison, and they also don't like having all their assets seized.

I think you're significantly overestimating the difficulty for Elliot and Gretchen to get that money deposited overseas. Even if they don't get a private banker to do it - private jet to Cayman/Isle of Mann/Switzerland, meet security detail, walk in, deposit money. Chances of them getting caught are essentially zero.

HFS they can stick the money in a safe or burn it

Write a check for the amount and be done with it.

easy peasy.

 

[FlapJacks]

Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

They could light that money on fire. It has been established that 10M is nothing to these people. They'll just write a check and be done with it.

Then the hit men would have to kill them. Walt specifically told them not to give Flynn a dime of their own money.

What? How would anybody know how they processed the money. If they write the check for the exact amount he gave they're fine.

They're not going to show up with THAT money in a briefcase for Flynn.

he meant the exact amount. he didn't want charity. Not literally those actual bills

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

They could light that money on fire. It has been established that 10M is nothing to these people. They'll just write a check and be done with it.

Then the hit men would have to kill them. Walt specifically told them not to give Flynn a dime of their own money.

What? How would anybody know how they processed the money. If they write the check for the exact amount he gave they're fine.

They're not going to show up with THAT money in a briefcase for Flynn.

People keep telling me that the Schwartzes should be terrified of Walt because he's a huge drug kingpin and that's why they're going to risk prison by transferring drug money to Flynn. But then you turn around in the next breath and tell me that they're going to blow off his super-explicit order not to use their own money. If you're going to treat this plan as being plausible, you have to be internally consistent about it. Either they're scared of Walt and they follow his instructions or they're not and they don't.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

jfc

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

I know, but that was the point of showing the interview with the Schwartzes in the penultimate episode. That interview simultaneously reminded Walt that he turned over his "empire" to other people before (much to his regret) and it alerted him to the fact that his signature product was still being produced. That's what changed his mind about turning himself in and prodded him to return to NM.

In other words, when Walt gets all mad while watching that interview, it's because he realizes that he's currently making the exact same mistake that he made with Grey Matter all over again. He returns to ABQ because he's determined to not do that. It's sort of a weird moment of clarity.

 

[FlapJacks]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

 

[Premier]

Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

They could light that money on fire. It has been established that 10M is nothing to these people. They'll just write a check and be done with it.

Then the hit men would have to kill them. Walt specifically told them not to give Flynn a dime of their own money.

What? How would anybody know how they processed the money. If they write the check for the exact amount he gave they're fine.They're not going to show up with THAT money in a briefcase for Flynn.

People keep telling me that the Schwartzes should be terrified of Walt because he's a huge drug kingpin and that's why they're going to risk prison by transferring drug money to Flynn. But then you turn around in the next breath and tell me that they're going to blow off his super-explicit order not to use their own money. If you're going to treat this plan as being plausible, you have to be internally consistent about it. Either they're scared of Walt and they follow his instructions or they're not and they don't.

Wow.

 

[FlapJacks]

Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

They could light that money on fire. It has been established that 10M is nothing to these people. They'll just write a check and be done with it.

Then the hit men would have to kill them. Walt specifically told them not to give Flynn a dime of their own money.

What? How would anybody know how they processed the money. If they write the check for the exact amount he gave they're fine.

They're not going to show up with THAT money in a briefcase for Flynn.

People keep telling me that the Schwartzes should be terrified of Walt because he's a huge drug kingpin and that's why they're going to risk prison by transferring drug money to Flynn. But then you turn around in the next breath and tell me that they're going to blow off his super-explicit order not to use their own money. If you're going to treat this plan as being plausible, you have to be internally consistent about it. Either they're scared of Walt and they follow his instructions or they're not and they don't.

he meant the exact amount because he didn't want charity. Not literally those actual bills

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

 

[Chase Stuart]

At the end of Ozymandias, Walt tells Skyler that he still has things left to do. In the end, he did those things, but he also nearly turned himself in. At the start of Granite State he wanted to go after the Nazis (and maybe Lydia?), but he pretty quickly lost his resolve. I suppose when he was talking to Skyler he expected to meet up with the vacuum cleaner, have Saul call some thugs, and then attack the Nazis?

 

[Limp Ditka]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

She just showed up at the car wash to talk to Walt. Walt has no idea that she's threatened Skyler. She's no more of a threat to Skyler (at that point) than Jesse is.

 

[FlapJacks]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

She just showed up at the car wash to talk to Walt. Walt has no idea that she's threatened Skyler. She's no more of a threat to Skyler (at that point) than Jesse is.

Walt knows Jesse won't kill unless he absolutely has to

Walt also know that Lydia will kill witnesses as easy as breathing

 

[Limp Ditka]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

She just showed up at the car wash to talk to Walt. Walt has no idea that she's threatened Skyler. She's no more of a threat to Skyler (at that point) than Jesse is.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

She just showed up at the car wash to talk to Walt. Walt has no idea that she's threatened Skyler. She's no more of a threat to Skyler (at that point) than Jesse is.

Did I miss something from that episode? Lydia has met Skyler, but that's it. So has Jesse. Lydia later goes on to threaten Skyler, of course, but Walt doesn't know that when he poisons her.

Edit; It's been a while since I've seen that particular episode. It's very possible that Lydia was somehow menacing to Skyler in that one and I'm just forgetting it. But that's sort of besides the point. Lydia had to die, from Walt's perspective, because it's intolerable that she or anybody else would profit from his work without him, just like with Grey Matter.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

FWIW, this is how I took it as well

 

[Politician Spock]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

She just showed up at the car wash to talk to Walt. Walt has no idea that she's threatened Skyler. She's no more of a threat to Skyler (at that point) than Jesse is.

Walt watched Skylar threaten Lydia at the car wash. Walt knows he has to close that loop before he dies.

 

[simey]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

He didn't know they were still producing his signature blue stuff until those two guys in the backseat of his car told him.

 

[FlapJacks]

"She's a loose cannon. The woman put a hit out on me" - Mike Ehrmantraut

Walt was going to kill her earlier, but the only reason he didn't was she had the Czech connections

 

[fruity pebbles]

Walt knows what Lydia is capable of. She put a hit out on Mike. He knows that once the Nazis are out of the picture, she will find someone to go after his family given Skyler has seen her and knows who she is.

 

[fruity pebbles]

and he wasn't wrong. she did want skyler dead and she was going to have walt killed

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

"She's a loose cannon. The woman put a hit out on me" - Mike Ehrmantraut

Walt was going to kill her earlier, but the only reason he didn't was she had the Czech connections

If Mike did kill her imagine how much better things would have turned out.

 

[Politician Spock]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

This doesn't make any sense. Walt transfered his empire to her because he was done. He had no reason to kill Lydia until his post retirement plans failed to work out. At that point Lydia has to die to protect Skylar.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

This doesn't make any sense. Walt transfered his empire to her because he was done. He had no reason to kill Lydia until his post retirement plans failed to work out. At that point Lydia has to die to protect Skylar.

Yeah, I addressed this already. That's what the ending of Granite State was all about.

Seriously guys, it's not an accident or coincidence that the writers juxtaposed Grey Matter and the continued production of blue meth in the same 30-second scene. That's deliberate. There's a reason why Walt changes his mind about turning himself in at that exact point.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

"She's a loose cannon. The woman put a hit out on me" - Mike Ehrmantraut

Walt was going to kill her earlier, but the only reason he didn't was she had the Czech connections

But that was when Walt and Co. also thought she'd planted the GPS tracker. The bug in Hank's office exonerated her from that.

Tying her up as a loose end makes sense I guess, but why not just rat her to the cops if you're Walt? Maybe that's plan B if she doesn't choose the right table or brings her own Stevia?

 

[Buckfast 1]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

He didn't know they were still producing his signature blue stuff until those two guys in the backseat of his car told him.

Walt had newspaper articles mentioning that his blue meth was still out there posted on the wall in his New Hampshire cabin. Charlie Rose also mentioned that the blue meth was still on the market reaching as far as Europe during the interview with Elliot and Gretchen. Walt knew it was still out there when he returned to Albuquerque.

 

[simey]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

He didn't know they were still producing his signature blue stuff until those two guys in the backseat of his car told him.

Walt had newspaper articles mentioning that his blue meth was still out there posted on the wall in his New Hampshire cabin. Charlie Rose also mentioned that the blue meth was still on the market reaching as far as Europe during the interview with Elliot and Gretchen. Walt knew it was still out there when he returned to Albuquerque.

He was surprised when those two guys told him the blue stuff was just like his, and he realized Jesse was still alive cooking it.

 

[simey]

I saw an interview with Gilligan this morning, and he was asked about Walt saying, "I did it for myself." Gilligan said it was time for Walt to tell the truth, and he really did do it for himself.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

He didn't know they were still producing his signature blue stuff until those two guys in the backseat of his car told him.

Walt had newspaper articles mentioning that his blue meth was still out there posted on the wall in his New Hampshire cabin. Charlie Rose also mentioned that the blue meth was still on the market reaching as far as Europe during the interview with Elliot and Gretchen. Walt knew it was still out there when he returned to Albuquerque.

He was surprised when those two guys told him the blue stuff was just like his, and he realized Jesse was still alive cooking it.

He was surprised at the QUALITY of the product. That meant only one person could've been involved with the product since he knew from Lydia that the quality took a nosedive after he left. Up until that point, his assumption was Jesse was dead.

 

[coyote5]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

I know, but that was the point of showing the interview with the Schwartzes in the penultimate episode. That interview simultaneously reminded Walt that he turned over his "empire" to other people before (much to his regret) and it alerted him to the fact that his signature product was still being produced. That's what changed his mind about turning himself in and prodded him to return to NM.

In other words, when Walt gets all mad while watching that interview, it's because he realizes that he's currently making the exact same mistake that he made with Grey Matter all over again. He returns to ABQ because he's determined to not do that. It's sort of a weird moment of clarity.

Walt had just had the phone convo with Jr. he now knows that there is absolutely NO way his family will take his money. Everything he's done has been for nothing. So he calls the popo to turn himself in. Then he sees the Rose interview and realizes he can use them to get the money to his family. That was the catalyst for his return to ABQ, he found a way to give the money to his family.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

I know, but that was the point of showing the interview with the Schwartzes in the penultimate episode. That interview simultaneously reminded Walt that he turned over his "empire" to other people before (much to his regret) and it alerted him to the fact that his signature product was still being produced. That's what changed his mind about turning himself in and prodded him to return to NM.

In other words, when Walt gets all mad while watching that interview, it's because he realizes that he's currently making the exact same mistake that he made with Grey Matter all over again. He returns to ABQ because he's determined to not do that. It's sort of a weird moment of clarity.

Walt had just had the phone convo with Jr. he now knows that there is absolutely NO way his family will take his money. Everything he's done has been for nothing. So he calls the popo to turn himself in. Then he sees the Rose interview and realizes he can use them to get the money to his family. That was the catalyst for his return to ABQ, he found a way to give the money to his family.

And since he was going back, he wanted to take care of his last enemy from the Heisenberg days. That included killing Lydia who had proven in the past should would do anything to save her own ###. He was protecting Walt Jr and Skyler from her.

 

[FlapJacks]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

I know, but that was the point of showing the interview with the Schwartzes in the penultimate episode. That interview simultaneously reminded Walt that he turned over his "empire" to other people before (much to his regret) and it alerted him to the fact that his signature product was still being produced. That's what changed his mind about turning himself in and prodded him to return to NM.

In other words, when Walt gets all mad while watching that interview, it's because he realizes that he's currently making the exact same mistake that he made with Grey Matter all over again. He returns to ABQ because he's determined to not do that. It's sort of a weird moment of clarity.

Walt had just had the phone convo with Jr. he now knows that there is absolutely NO way his family will take his money. Everything he's done has been for nothing. So he calls the popo to turn himself in. Then he sees the Rose interview and realizes he can use them to get the money to his family. That was the catalyst for his return to ABQ, he found a way to give the money to his family.

I think it's both

It rekindled his rage at having his genius taken advantage of and it also a potential way to get money to his kids that didn't come from him.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

She just showed up at the car wash to talk to Walt. Walt has no idea that she's threatened Skyler. She's no more of a threat to Skyler (at that point) than Jesse is.

He didn't talk to Skyler first?

 

[simey]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

Walt retired voluntarily and turned things over to Declan/Todd to produce. He obviously knew she was continuing to profit after he left, she even asked him to come back.

He didn't know they were still producing his signature blue stuff until those two guys in the backseat of his car told him.

Walt had newspaper articles mentioning that his blue meth was still out there posted on the wall in his New Hampshire cabin. Charlie Rose also mentioned that the blue meth was still on the market reaching as far as Europe during the interview with Elliot and Gretchen. Walt knew it was still out there when he returned to Albuquerque.

He was surprised when those two guys told him the blue stuff was just like his, and he realized Jesse was still alive cooking it.

He was surprised at the QUALITY of the product. That meant only one person could've been involved with the product since he knew from Lydia that the quality took a nosedive after he left. Up until that point, his assumption was Jesse was dead.

When he realized Jesse was still making the blue meth, Walt knew he was no longer needed, and they were profiting on his stuff. He also knew that if he met with Lydia, she would put a hit on him. He also knew that Skylar threatened Lydia outside of the carwash. Lydia was as bad as the rest of them, and she had to go.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Like all great shows, the ending is gonna be interpreted different ways. I really started to tune out after Hank was killed. I thought somehow someway that the family would stay intact. I can't imagine Jesse cooking once they killed his girl. There was no motivation at that point, maybe just a scare would have kept him moving along.

You can pick it apart or you can just accept that no matter how they ended it, things were going to break bad or end bad. I figured Walt would die, was hoping Jesse would blow him away but just like Jesse I thought he better not, was fitting he said NO. I also think the police would have picked him up and he would be facing serious jail time.

Thought Saul could have had a slightly better send off but looking forward to his spin off. It kind of stunk that it all boiled down to some skinheads and a character you grew to hate in Todd. I thought the gun or the trunk was pretty cool but again how did Walt get shot? he was laying down on Jesse as it started, again though you should respect the folks who brought you so much riveting TV over the last many years. This is what they came up with and the show felt a little more real in the earlier seasons but I would say this is easily in my top 10 all time shows.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Walt had just had the phone convo with Jr. he now knows that there is absolutely NO way his family will take his money. Everything he's done has been for nothing. So he calls the popo to turn himself in. Then he sees the Rose interview and realizes he can use them to get the money to his family. That was the catalyst for his return to ABQ, he found a way to give the money to his family.

That's part of it obviously, and it explains the money laundering scheme in the finale. That's not what Walt's mad about though. He's not watching the interview and having a light bulb go on about some brilliant solution to his problems. He's realizing that he's repeating the same mistake he made before.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I really hesitate to post this, given the way this thread has gone, but there's a simple question that I cannot figure out. Maybe I'm missing something really obvious.

Why kill Lydia?

She was profiting on Heisenberg's blue meth. That's not acceptable for Walt.

as long as she's alive, she's a threat to Skyler, as well.

When she finds out Jack's gang is dead, she becomes a wild card (due to her anxiety) who can kill indiscriminately.

To be fair, Walt is completely oblivious to that fact when he slips her the ricin. He only finds out about that later.

She showed up at the carwash. She's a threat.

She just showed up at the car wash to talk to Walt. Walt has no idea that she's threatened Skyler. She's no more of a threat to Skyler (at that point) than Jesse is.

He didn't talk to Skyler first?

No. Skyler tells Walt about Lydia after Lydia has already been poisoned.

Edit: Now that I think about it, if Lydia needed to die because she was a threat to Skyler, the writers could have established that very easily just by flipping the sequence of those two scenes. Instead they went out of their way to undermine that theory. That strongly suggests that their intended motivation for her poisoning was something else.

 

[3C's]

Pretty sure Howdy Doody will do the right thing.

 

[Slapdash]

Elliot probably heard Walk talking to Pete and Badger anyways.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Elliot probably heard Walk talking to Pete and Badger anyways.

 

[Abraham]

Like all great shows, the ending is gonna be interpreted different ways. I really started to tune out after Hank was killed. I thought somehow someway that the family would stay intact. I can't imagine Jesse cooking once they killed his girl. There was no motivation at that point, maybe just a scare would have kept him moving along.

AS soon as todd got back in the car Jack told Jesse to quit crying and to remember there was a little boy left to think about.

 

[JZilla]

Elliot probably heard Walk talking to Pete and Badger anyways.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Like all great shows, the ending is gonna be interpreted different ways. I really started to tune out after Hank was killed. I thought somehow someway that the family would stay intact. I can't imagine Jesse cooking once they killed his girl. There was no motivation at that point, maybe just a scare would have kept him moving along.

AS soon as todd got back in the car Jack told Jesse to quit crying and to remember there was a little boy left to think about.

Like MOPs going to understand being motvated for the welfare of a fatherless kid.

 

[Abraham]

Like all great shows, the ending is gonna be interpreted different ways. I really started to tune out after Hank was killed. I thought somehow someway that the family would stay intact. I can't imagine Jesse cooking once they killed his girl. There was no motivation at that point, maybe just a scare would have kept him moving along.

AS soon as todd got back in the car Jack told Jesse to quit crying and to remember there was a little boy left to think about.

Like MOPs going to understand being motvated for the welfare of a fatherless kid.

OH MY GOSH.

 

[Sebowski]

Wow. Looks like I did the right thing ditching this thread thread a couple seasons ago.