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BREAKING: Bradford requests trade from Eagles (3 Viewers)

Pwingles said:
he better be careful stomping those feet, he may blow out his knee and break his collarbone
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Yep. Eat a bag of 'em if you can't be a professional about this, Sammy. Yeah I get his side, but stomping and crying like a little kid because he's not getting his way is a complete 180 of what is is to be a team leader IMO. I'm glad the Eagles moved up to #2 and showed a commitment to taking a shot at a top rated prospect, but Sam is under contract. I'm treating him as I would any other player who's holding out. You're under contract, so do what the contract stipulates or don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya.

 
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Never has a player who has accomplished so little of consequence been so petulant. He acts as if he's a franchise QB. What team in their right mind would trade for him, hand him the keys, and then not look to add another QB given his extensive injury history.

 
This guy is just the worst.  He gets paid insane amounts of money for poor play and now he's the one whining about unfair?  With not just a huge rookie deal but also a big second contract this guy has got to have one of the worst money to performance ratios of any athlete in NFL history. 

His team wanting a new quarterback is his fault for not playing well.  Yet he'd still probably have a chance to start this year and audition for another job, where with even a mediocre performance he could probably land yet another big contract because of his draft status all those years ago.  Yet instead he whines and pouts and cries about how he's going to get paid outrageous amounts of money to play poorly for 12 games instead of 16.

The worst.

 
:cry:  

:bye:   have fun backing up RG3 in Cleveland.

or just retire already. 

 
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I wrote this in the Eagles thread as well, Bradford has always had injury issues ands hasn't come near reaching the expectations on him coming out of college as the number one overall pick. But one thing NFL insiders always said was that he was a great leader and coaches and players loved his attitude. The way he's handling this is taking his one positive attribute and throwing it out the window.  So now, instead of just being injury prone and underachieving, he's also a selfish whiner. I hope Philly can trade him. Be nice to see them get a 3rd for him.

 
Must have been a longer post or article I didn't see. Whining, pouting, crying and being selfish? I've read more of that in this thread than I've seen from Bradford. 

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Must have been a longer post or article I didn't see. Whining, pouting, crying and being selfish? I've read more of that in this thread than I've seen from Bradford. 
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Yeah. What the hell is wrong with us?  Expecting a guy who's set to make 35 million over the next two years to live up to his end of the deal. And that's not taking into consideration the 200 million he's already stolen.

 
I haven't followed this closely.  How tough is it going to be for Philly to get out of his new deal he signed?  What a crazy organization.  Give a big deal to Bradford and a pretty big deal to Chase and then trade a boat load for the #2 pick.  I guess I'm not seeing a genius plan on how to build a franchise.

 
JuniorNB said:
Yeah. What the hell is wrong with us?  Expecting a guy who's set to make 35 million over the next two years to live up to his end of the deal. And that's not taking into consideration the 200 million he's already stolen.
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Again, I didnt read the long article you guys must have, but from what i can tell, this has zero to do with money. 

 
How does that work if he wants to be released today? Could he and the Eagles just figure out something where he gave back the bonus and they void the deal? I doubt the union would allow that.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Oh, so it is about the money? I cant find it. Please share the link or the story. Thanks. 
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No. Read the comments. People are giving the guy slack because he's never accomplished anything and is having a temper tantrum. Please give your expert analysis as to why you think it's fine that he, as the team's starting quarterback, isn't going to participate in anything with his teammates going forward. Thanks

 
Grahamburn said:
I'd be done with them too.  They clearly don't know what they're doing.
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this.

so they sign him to starter money, then seemingly change course w/ the plan @ the QB position, and he's a whiner because he wants to feed his competitive drive by getting an opportunity to lead a team beyond one yr? got it.  

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Again, I didnt read the long article you guys must have, but from what i can tell, this has zero to do with money. 
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In Sam's mind it probably doesn't have anything to do with money.  But when you're paid to do a job you do your job.  He's apparently whining that the team feels he's failing.  FWIW, I don't really blame him for being irritated by it but he needs to take the lead from Drew Brees when the Chargers acquired Rivers and show some leadership.  Or just follow his own words:
 

Bradford, who re-signed with the Eagles earlier this offseason, "is mad and wants to show everyone who's best," a source told Schefter last week.
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I'd be curious where he thinks he'll go with a better scenario. What I mean is that while the Eagles may not be in the position to win it all in the next few years, what teams in search of a QB are that much closer than they are?

I presume his only chances to go somewhere else and fight for the starting role on day 1 are the Jets, Broncos, and Browns. I doubt the Browns cough up more cash for another retread QB and instead see what they have in RG3. Denver likely couldn't make the cap numbers work even if they wanted to. Does this literally leave him with the Jets as his only option? Maybe a team like the 49ers?

 
JuniorNB said:
No. Read the comments. People are giving the guy slack because he's never accomplished anything and is having a temper tantrum. Please give your expert analysis as to why you think it's fine that he, as the team's starting quarterback, isn't going to participate in anything with his teammates going forward. Thanks
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Its pretty clear they f*cked up and are planning to go in another direction. It seems, he is willing to part ways as well and has asked for that. 

 
They aren't cutting him, that's an $18M cap hit vs. the $12.5M he already on the books for.  They might trade him, that would only incur $11M and end up saving them a few bucks.  Would be a VERY reasonable contact for someone to take on too if they believed in Bradford.  $7M this year is right up Denver's alley, and $13M next year can be figured out with a restructure if they want to keep him and it's not guaranteed if they don't.

 
Grahamburn said:
I'd be done with them too.  They clearly don't know what they're doing.
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Bradford signed a two-year deal, $35 million deal with this exact front office seven weeks ago. Seven weeks! I've got beer in my refrigerator older than that.

Now, which is more likely: (a) the angel of Vince Lombardi came to him in a dream just last night and told him that the Eagles' front office is a bunch of incompetent hacks, or (b) he swallowed his pride in March because he got $35M to wash it down, and is now butthurt because even though he only got a 2-year deal, his employer suddenly seems to be acting on their doubts that he can be their QB of the future?

 
FUBAR said:
In Sam's mind it probably doesn't have anything to do with money.  But when you're paid to do a job you do your job.  He's apparently whining that the team feels he's failing.  FWIW, I don't really blame him for being irritated by it but he needs to take the lead from Drew Brees when the Chargers acquired Rivers and show some leadership.  Or just follow his own words:
 

Bradford, who re-signed with the Eagles earlier this offseason, "is mad and wants to show everyone who's best," a source told Schefter last week.
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I agree in general, but I don't much much stock in a fourth party quote. 

 
dehaven123 said:
this.

so they sign him to starter money, then seemingly change course w/ the plan @ the QB position, and he's a whiner because he wants to feed his competitive drive by getting an opportunity to lead a team beyond one yr? got it.  
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"Feed his competitive drive". :lmao:

He's done nothing to show a team that they should dedicate themselves to him 100% at the position, but that's apparently what he wants anyway.  And his best chance to get that is to play out this year as the starter so someone would want to bring him in next year.  But that would require actually playing well.  And we all know he doesn't want that.  Having to actually EARN that money/dedication?  Pfft.  You have to dedicate yourself to him blindly.

There are hundreds of players in the league who had competition brought in this offseason.  But not for Bradford.  That's just not fair!

 
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I get where Bradford is coming from but his agent took the totally wrong route here. He should have stayed behind the scenes and worked with the Eagles to get a trade done. Doing this basically just announced to the NFL my feelings are hurt and I don't care about my current team despite them paying me a lot of money for a 2 year deal to be a starting QB.  Who wants that as their starter?

 
Jayded said:
I'd be curious where he thinks he'll go with a better scenario. What I mean is that while the Eagles may not be in the position to win it all in the next few years, what teams in search of a QB are that much closer than they are?

I presume his only chances to go somewhere else and fight for the starting role on day 1 are the Jets, Broncos, and Browns. I doubt the Browns cough up more cash for another retread QB and instead see what they have in RG3. Denver likely couldn't make the cap numbers work even if they wanted to. Does this literally leave him with the Jets as his only option? Maybe a team like the 49ers?
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those teams are better scenarios but they won't pay his contract.

Nevermind - if this is true, they should do that:

Hankmoody said:
They aren't cutting him, that's an $18M cap hit vs. the $12.5M he already on the books for.  They might trade him, that would only incur $11M and end up saving them a few bucks.  Would be a VERY reasonable contact for someone to take on too if they believed in Bradford.  $7M this year is right up Denver's alley, and $13M next year can be figured out with a restructure if they want to keep him and it's not guaranteed if they don't.
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dehaven123 said:
this.

so they sign him to starter money, then seemingly change course w/ the plan @ the QB position, and he's a whiner because he wants to feed his competitive drive by getting an opportunity to lead a team beyond one yr? got it.  
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I like the way he feeds his competitive by throwing a tantrum when someone gets brought in to compete with him.  

 
By the way, this is Sam Bradford, that wants out.  Sam Bradford.  

There are QBs that get to expect no questioning of their job security.  Gimpy McLigament isn't one of them.  

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Its pretty clear they f*cked up and are planning to go in another direction. It seems, he is willing to part ways as well and has asked for that. 
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Please explain how its "clear." The contract they gave Bradford seems to show that they didn't think they had a franchise QB on the roster, so they were still making moves to get one for the future.  You don't know if you're moving from #13 to #2 when Free agency starts. Would have been more evident they don't know what they're doing if they didn't sign Bradford back and tried to make these trades without a backup plan. 

 
massraider said:
I like the way he feeds his competitive by throwing a tantrum when someone gets brought in to compete with him.  
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Or they could use all those picks they just threw away to get some players to put around him.  Basically they're setting him up for failure and asking him to go take a beating while this other guy is waiting in the wings to take his job.  Eff that.  I'm sure he'd rather go play for someone who wants to win.

 
dehaven123 said:
this.

so they sign him to starter money, then seemingly change course w/ the plan @ the QB position, and he's a whiner because he wants to feed his competitive drive by getting an opportunity to lead a team beyond one yr? got it.  
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he's on an NFL team, there's his opportunity. 

 
Grahamburn said:
Or they could use all those picks they just threw away to get some players to put around him.  Basically they're setting him up for failure and asking him to go take a beating while this other guy is waiting in the wings to take his job.  Eff that.  I'm sure he'd rather go play for someone who wants to win.
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I'm sure the Eagles would have preferred to win with him.  So would have the Rams.

 
Grahamburn said:
Or they could use all those picks they just threw away to get some players to put around him.  Basically they're setting him up for failure and asking him to go take a beating while this other guy is waiting in the wings to take his job.  Eff that.  I'm sure he'd rather go play for someone who wants to win.
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Take what beating?  This isn't the Browns.  

They are planning on winning the division this year.  They drafted a long term QB, and he has a two year deal.  TWO YEAR DEAL.  

And I come back to the main reason why he doesn't have a leg to stand on:  He's Sam Bradford.  

 
Grahamburn said:
Or they could use all those picks they just threw away to get some players to put around him.  Basically they're setting him up for failure and asking him to go take a beating while this other guy is waiting in the wings to take his job.  Eff that.  I'm sure he'd rather go play for someone who wants to win.
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I'm sure he can wash away those tears with a couple of thousand dollar bills he has on his coffee table. 

He's in the NFL. If he wants to show he's the best, go out there and prove it on the field. Then someone will be beating the Eagles door down to come get him.

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Its pretty clear they f*cked up and are planning to go in another direction. It seems, he is willing to part ways as well and has asked for that. 
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He signed a two year deal. Wentz didn't even play division one. Sam has the chance to use this time to finally show he's a franchise quarterback. This isn't Drew Brees we're talking about here. Or even a Dalton or Rivers type. This guy has never shown he can win or stay healthy. This year (and possibly next) are his audition.  A true competitor would relish the opportunity. Instead, he's sulking like a junior high player. Not a good look

 
I understand this is professional sports, but it would still be disconcerting as an employee when the employer continues going in a direction that doesn't include you.  Just kind of makes me understand his thinking.

 
JuniorNB said:
He signed a two year deal. Wentz didn't even play division one. Sam has the chance to use this time to finally show he's a franchise quarterback. This isn't Drew Brees we're talking about here. Or even a Dalton or Rivers type. This guy has never shown he can win or stay healthy. This year (and possibly next) are his audition.  A true competitor would relish the opportunity. Instead, he's sulking like a junior high player. Not a good look
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Ironically, that's sort of exactly what this is; Drew Brees 2003.  But I don't remember Drew throwing a tantrum.

 
Grahamburn said:
I understand this is professional sports, but it would still be disconcerting as an employee when the employer continues going in a direction that doesn't include you.  Just kind of makes me understand his thinking.
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yeah, I think that's the issue here; if the employer is going in a different direction because you failed to perform; can't really blame the employer.

 
Grahamburn said:
I understand this is professional sports, but it would still be disconcerting as an employee when the employer continues going in a direction that doesn't include you.  Just kind of makes me understand his thinking.
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And yet when you were cashing that $18mil paycheck I am betting you would get re-concerted pretty quickly.

 
Grahamburn said:
I understand this is professional sports, but it would still be disconcerting as an employee when the employer continues going in a direction that doesn't include you.  Just kind of makes me understand his thinking.
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Your team decided to take Jameis Winston because he has potential to be a franchise guy. After signing Bradford, the opportunity arose for Philly to do the same thing Tampa Bay did. They have a six year body of work to determine that Bradford isn't that guy. They resigned him because Osweiler and Cousins were the only other options as free agents. Not exactly inducing Lombardi trophy images.  If Bradford was a real man, he'd have confident that he'll stay healthy and become the player people thought he'd be coming out of college.  Then he could write his own check in two years,

 
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