If TO really wanted to kill himself, he would have done it in a more efficient way. Why would you take pills with someone in the room if you planned on committing suicide? He did this solely for attention, IMHO. I know a girl who tried to "committ suicide" 7 or 8 times by slitting her writsts. She knew exactly how to slit them so she would bleed alot, but not die. She did it for attention.Has not TO shown in the past what kind of person he is? I am not degrading the guy, I am simply making a statement that he did not intentionally want to kill himself, but rather wants attention....or help as most of you would say.
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Breaking News - Terrell Owens Rushed to local hospital (1 Viewer)
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BoulderBob
Footballguy
If he took 35 pills, he was trying to kill himself. He wasn't looking for attention, he was looking for a way to end his life. This is a matter that should have remained private, and the media whores will get what is coming to them. Owens obviously needs help, and hopefully his family and/or the Cowboys provide it for him. I hope to see him on the field as soon as he is in the right frame of mind, if leaving the game is better for him, good, one less person for the media whores to write about.
She said she made the call. If she is lying about that I'd have to deduce she is in spin mode and more importantly does not want the media to contact the person who really made the call.
cantrell
Footballguy
Let's hope.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Needing real help and wanting attention are two completely different things. If someone needs help, they are not right in the head, so it is not like they are thinking clearly when planning a suicide attempt, which is why so many of them fail. It is hard to carefully plan when your head is not right.
I agree.Killing yourself is not difficult. The only way you can fail is if someone catches you and gets medical attention.
What better way to have someone catch you than to have someone in the room?
I'm not saying that it makes it any less sad for Owens, he still needs to get himself help, but let's not make the mistake that he wished he was dead.
nightshift
Footballguy
Since someone did call 911, it's only a matter of time before the tape of the call surfaces. Can't spin that.If it is a miscommunication of some nature, it will be cleared and forgotten shortly. If it is a suicide attempt, as much as I don't like TO's antics, no one deserves this. His money (and the Cowboys) will make sure he gets the best help possible and I, for one, wish him a speedy recovery from whatever happened to him yesterday.
stp-d
Footballguy
You know what I love most about the U.S.? Freedom of speech! Nothing like a bunch of wannabe policeman, trying to keep someone down for posting there opinion. get with it boys, it's the 1st amendment, whether you like it not, you can't turn this into a good christian board, otherwise you'll los most of your subscriptions, because last time I checked, those of us who gamble, aren't considered good christians 
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
The drama deepens:
UPDATE: Clarence Hill, beat writer for the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram, appeared just moments ago on ESPNs Cold Pizza and said he spoke with the woman who actually called 911 and she told him this was NOT a suicide attempt. Apparently Owens took some pain medication along with his normal supplements and there was, in fact, a bad reaction. His stomach was not pumped and hospital personnel did not induce vomiting. The Cowboys will be holding a news conference at 1:30 pm CT.
UPDATE: Clarence Hill, beat writer for the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram, appeared just moments ago on ESPNs Cold Pizza and said he spoke with the woman who actually called 911 and she told him this was NOT a suicide attempt. Apparently Owens took some pain medication along with his normal supplements and there was, in fact, a bad reaction. His stomach was not pumped and hospital personnel did not induce vomiting. The Cowboys will be holding a news conference at 1:30 pm CT.
Texican
Footballguy
(KFFL) Updating an ongoing storyline, ESPN's Ed Werder reports Dallas Cowboys WR Terrell Owens' publicist said Owens did not try to attempt suicide. His publicist said Owens was groggy when asked questions by the first response unit and there was a miscommunication because he of it. During a press conference, the Dallas Police Department would not confirm or deny Owens attempting suicide. The Cowboys have called a press conference for the afternoon to discuss the situation. Owens has already been ruled out for the team's Week 4 game.
B-Deep
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I just got off the phone with a friend who is a pshyc doctor and you're not going to like this.
1. He said none of the reasons TO has tried to committ suicide will be made public...this isn't like a knee injury where the doctors want to let the public know the player will make a full recovery. Nothing is going to be said publicly about TO's mental problems. It's actually a violation, so be real careful what you read on ESPN or any news outlet because all of it will be pure speculation.
2. Timeframe for him to come back. Physically he could play Sunday...but more likely he will be ruled out. And the idea that the Cowboys would subject him to the Philly fans in 2 weeks...not likely. he could actually miss the remainder of the season but that will be determined by TO, his doctors, and of course Jerry Jones who is now in a terrible PR situation.
If JJ pushes TO to get back in the saddle than he is going to look like a heel...maybe not to everyone but he has to appear supportive and I think he will do that. Parcells will just be quiet about the whole thing and get his other 52 players ready to go on Sunday.
I know people are trying to be nice but the reality is we are on here taking up 16 pages so far because of the FF slant. IMO, Crayton has the most value going forward...but that is just my personal opinion...maybe a completely seperate thread with Herd vs Crayton should be started and try to keep the TO speculation to a minimum....because all of it is pure spec at this point.
1. He said none of the reasons TO has tried to committ suicide will be made public...this isn't like a knee injury where the doctors want to let the public know the player will make a full recovery. Nothing is going to be said publicly about TO's mental problems. It's actually a violation, so be real careful what you read on ESPN or any news outlet because all of it will be pure speculation.
2. Timeframe for him to come back. Physically he could play Sunday...but more likely he will be ruled out. And the idea that the Cowboys would subject him to the Philly fans in 2 weeks...not likely. he could actually miss the remainder of the season but that will be determined by TO, his doctors, and of course Jerry Jones who is now in a terrible PR situation.
If JJ pushes TO to get back in the saddle than he is going to look like a heel...maybe not to everyone but he has to appear supportive and I think he will do that. Parcells will just be quiet about the whole thing and get his other 52 players ready to go on Sunday.
I know people are trying to be nice but the reality is we are on here taking up 16 pages so far because of the FF slant. IMO, Crayton has the most value going forward...but that is just my personal opinion...maybe a completely seperate thread with Herd vs Crayton should be started and try to keep the TO speculation to a minimum....because all of it is pure spec at this point.
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BlueOnion
Footballguy
It is possible she called 911 and reported an allergic reaction. F & R could have shown up, asked T.O. some questions ("Did you try to commite suicide?") and F & R could have contacted police about a potential suicide.The police report could support this scenario too.
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
Which is sad unto itself, no? Or does it spawn hate in you?
BrentBlack
Footballguy
I guess what you fail to grasp is that no one cares about your opinion.
butcher boy
Footballguy
So the police report that was posted earlier was a fake? It clearly stated it was a suicide attempt.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Wonder when the question of the media's role in all of this will be brought up. I don't blame the media but certainly they have played a part in making TO who he is, for better or worse. Hard not to feel badly for the guy on some level. I think if this was truly a suicide attempt you will not see TO on the football field for a good while. If it wasn't I'd guess he'll be back as soon as his finger is healed.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Here's another vote for "he's just seeking more attention."
If you really want to kill yourself, you will kill yourself.
The guy is a terribly sad case. He has a need to be on the front page every day.
If you really want to kill yourself, you will kill yourself.
The guy is a terribly sad case. He has a need to be on the front page every day.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Making friends in every thread you go I see.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
:11:Are the police coming to your door for what you've posted? No? Then, try to process that this has nothing to do with the 1st A. :11:
CA_7
Footballguy
If you are TO's publicist, what value is there in telling the truth (to the media) at this point? Of course they are going to spin this as overblown and miscommunication. I am not a lawyer but won't they know they should be protected by doctor-client privilege regarding TO's true mental state?
Tau837
Footballguy
If this is true, and by leaving it means he will be going home, then I'm pretty sure they don't think he attempted suicide. They don't just let people leave the next day after that, they commit them for a mandatory period into a psychiatric center/clinic for evaluation. At least, that's what they do in VA.And it is logical that they would/should do that everywhere... it would be incredibly irresponsible to let someone who is depressed enough to have just attempted suicide to leave quickly without counseling or evaluation, when he might still be similarly depressed and could therefore make another attempt.
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
Just passing along what I read/hear.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Freedom of speech simply prevents the government from stopping you from speaking your mind.Footballguys is a private organiation and can set rules of conduct as they see fit without worrying about whether or not they're infringing on "free speech."In other words, see my sig.You know what I love most about the U.S.? Freedom of speech! Nothing like a bunch of wannabe policeman, trying to keep someone down for posting there opinion. get with it boys, it's the 1st amendment, whether you like it not, you can't turn this into a good christian board, otherwise you'll los most of your subscriptions, because last time I checked, those of us who gamble, aren't considered good christians
diesel7982
Footballguy
Why even bother to post this?
BrentBlack
Footballguy
Posted any fake news stories about TO whimpering in the hospital?
joffer
Footballguy
the police report was based on answers TO gave to questions from the police. the publicist is now saying he didn't understand those questions because he was "out of it"
Dt's Mules
Footballguy
late to the thread, but has anyone mentioned this:
35 hydros probably ain't gonna get it done if you were trying to end it...hell favre was almost up to that on a daily basis...rush was way over that number...granted, they probably had built up a tolerance and thus the effects were lessened.
the only reason i mention this is that it would lend credibility to the spin that this wasn't a true suicide attempt
35 hydros probably ain't gonna get it done if you were trying to end it...hell favre was almost up to that on a daily basis...rush was way over that number...granted, they probably had built up a tolerance and thus the effects were lessened.
the only reason i mention this is that it would lend credibility to the spin that this wasn't a true suicide attempt
nightshift
Footballguy
By time the evening news comes out, you, I and everyone else will hear the 911 tape. The dispute over what was said on the call will be over.
B-Deep
Footballguy
Freedom of speech simply prevents the government from stopping you from speaking your mind.Footballguys is a private organiation and can set rules of conduct as they see fit without worrying about whether or not they're infringing on "free speech."In other words, see my sig.You know what I love most about the U.S.? Freedom of speech! Nothing like a bunch of wannabe policeman, trying to keep someone down for posting there opinion. get with it boys, it's the 1st amendment, whether you like it not, you can't turn this into a good christian board, otherwise you'll los most of your subscriptions, because last time I checked, those of us who gamble, aren't considered good christians
Leroy's Aces
Footballguy
Despite the amount of money that TO makes, he has had a LOT tougher life than almost any of us have had.
His father lived across the street from him and did not acknowledge that he was TO's father until TO tried to date the girl that lived across the street that was his half-sister. His grandmother locked him in the house all day long and almost never let him out to play with other kids. Sadly, TO has had a very rough childhood, and did not have the love and nurturing from caring parents that many of us take for granted. This impacts you for the rest of your life, whether you have money or not. Those that bash him should actually read his first book...it is available at many libraries for free. Many would understand his problems and issues better after knowing more about Terrell Owens and his early life.
Dave
Leroy's Aces
His father lived across the street from him and did not acknowledge that he was TO's father until TO tried to date the girl that lived across the street that was his half-sister. His grandmother locked him in the house all day long and almost never let him out to play with other kids. Sadly, TO has had a very rough childhood, and did not have the love and nurturing from caring parents that many of us take for granted. This impacts you for the rest of your life, whether you have money or not. Those that bash him should actually read his first book...it is available at many libraries for free. Many would understand his problems and issues better after knowing more about Terrell Owens and his early life.
Dave
Leroy's Aces
cobalt_27
Footballguy
It's not uncommon for folks to attempt suicide who really don't want to die. But, it would be foolish for any family member, any friend, any health care professional (and, by extension, the rest of us) to dismiss a suicide attempt if it's not completed. Absolutely, utterly foolish.
stp-d
Footballguy
There's always someone who cares, if not you, maybe Santa Claus, or the tooth fairy. Nice icon, an obese druggy who has the talent of a garage band singer might care what I think. If you smoke another, you might actually care about my opinion after your done.
joffer
Footballguy
i agree, that's the most conclusive piece of info we can find out right now. is he still in the hospital or not.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
zoonation
Footballguy
Yeah, he did this for attention...do you think you should maybe wait to actually find out what happened?The lack of compassion in here is really sad.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I thought some folks might want to know...maybe you're right.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
I can't believe TO is addicted to pain pills.
NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
11:53am NFL Network
Deion Sanders saying he spoke with TO in the last 20 minutes. According to PrimeTime TO "laughed" when asked about a suicide attempt. Deion is stating he is on his way to see him right now and TO should be holding his own conference today within "An hour or two".
Deion is saying this was a medical issue with regards to adverse reaction to meds. T.O. told him "inaccurate and that everyone will make a mountain out of a mole hill".
I will say Deion did not seemed convinced until he sees him physically.
Deion Sanders saying he spoke with TO in the last 20 minutes. According to PrimeTime TO "laughed" when asked about a suicide attempt. Deion is stating he is on his way to see him right now and TO should be holding his own conference today within "An hour or two".
Deion is saying this was a medical issue with regards to adverse reaction to meds. T.O. told him "inaccurate and that everyone will make a mountain out of a mole hill".
I will say Deion did not seemed convinced until he sees him physically.
PeaceBringer
Footballguy
if he was released, would be surprising but assess the publists side of things as being accurate or not enough grounds to hold him against his will.In terms of amount of what taken. They do a tylenol level to determine how much tylenol is in his system. Most of the narcotics have tylenol as secondary. I had heard that he claimed to take 5 when no one present and 2 later in front of paramedics, it could have just been ethridge.
BrentBlack
Footballguy
If you smoke another, you might actually care about my opinion after your done.
It didn't work.
Dt's Mules
Footballguy
i understand it's enough to kill you, but my point is if one was trying to end it, it doesn't seem like a big enough number.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
(1) Suicide is not a criminal offense under the Texas Penal Code. Neither is attempted suicide (of oneself - - distinguished from assisted suicide situations), which, if you think about it a bit, is the more likely action to be prosecuted. Successful suicide, as far as I know, results in a person that is no longer living, and is thus somewhat difficult to prosecute.
(2) Yes, I am a lawyer.
(3) I doubt this was really a suicide attempt. Some posters here seem to think the police report is totally conclusive - - when, in fact, most initial police reports are full of flaws and inconsistencies large and small, usually in proportion to the experience level of the responding officers. The police did not see him take 35 or 37 pills or whatever; for some reason they noted that, and if he really took that amount of pills, he'd be dead or close to it. I discount that notation entirely. Observe also that the DPD is backing away from the initial report - - they know it's nonsense.
(4) As someone pointed out upthread, if he tried to commit suicide, the state would almost certainly move to commit him civilly. So far, there's no evidence of such an action.
(5) My guess is that (like many people) he is prone to depression, and perhaps the operation followed by the pain pills aggravated that. It's fairly common, actually. He may have panicked, or the publicist may have panicked, and called 911 just to be sure. Until more details emerge, that seems the most likely explanation.
(6) His career is not over under any circumstances. The Cowboys have a history of rostering players with mental illness, and unless he can't perform on the field, which I doubt, there are laws that would prevent them from taking adverse action against him.
(7) He may need help for depression. I've owned him since 1998 and concluded that he is probably depressed judging by his behavior. And if he gets that help, guess what? He'll probably be fine - - perhaps even better than before.
(2) Yes, I am a lawyer.
(3) I doubt this was really a suicide attempt. Some posters here seem to think the police report is totally conclusive - - when, in fact, most initial police reports are full of flaws and inconsistencies large and small, usually in proportion to the experience level of the responding officers. The police did not see him take 35 or 37 pills or whatever; for some reason they noted that, and if he really took that amount of pills, he'd be dead or close to it. I discount that notation entirely. Observe also that the DPD is backing away from the initial report - - they know it's nonsense.
(4) As someone pointed out upthread, if he tried to commit suicide, the state would almost certainly move to commit him civilly. So far, there's no evidence of such an action.
(5) My guess is that (like many people) he is prone to depression, and perhaps the operation followed by the pain pills aggravated that. It's fairly common, actually. He may have panicked, or the publicist may have panicked, and called 911 just to be sure. Until more details emerge, that seems the most likely explanation.
(6) His career is not over under any circumstances. The Cowboys have a history of rostering players with mental illness, and unless he can't perform on the field, which I doubt, there are laws that would prevent them from taking adverse action against him.
(7) He may need help for depression. I've owned him since 1998 and concluded that he is probably depressed judging by his behavior. And if he gets that help, guess what? He'll probably be fine - - perhaps even better than before.
