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Are you sure that's the only reason? It's not because they are required to fill out a police report for every 911 call that is responded to? Or for any potential crowd control issues that might arise from an ambulance showing up at a famous athlete's house? The only reason was to investigate a crime? Is that seriously your opinion here?
no, i'm asking for a legitemate reason why they are asking for an apologylet's be clear, i have NO PROBLEM with the police involvement in this whole thing up until the point they asked for an apology. they did their job, that's it. whether they reached a correct or incorrect conclusion of a suicide attempt, doesn't matter to me.if they are really so insecure that they demand an apology every time a subject's recount of events differs from their report, than that's sadif they are only doing it because it's TO and they are getting caught up in the media frenzy, then that's sadder.
His PR person called them liars...Doesn't she speak for TO ?link to TO calling the police liars?Wasn't idiotic at all, it was spot on...no, reallynon-idiotic answers encouraged
His PR person called them liars...Doesn't she speak for TO ?Let's put it this way, basically "TEAM T.O." is now saying that the cops made a big deal out of this, when they are the ones that called 911, and the dispatcher at the 911 center sends out police along with EMTs to the scene when there is a possible suicide. Who is the only one that has anything to gain by lying OTHER then T.O. ??? They went out to do there job, and because "TEAM T.O." doesn't like how the story is sounding now that it is out, they want to call the cops liars for putting in the police report what T.O. and his PR lady said??
I think once you put everything together, this is clearly the most likely scenario. TO screwed around with his meds, or pretended to screw around with them, she came over, panicked, called the cops, said he was "depressed" and told them how she had to take pills out of his mouth, this all went into the police report. Then, when it turns out that he was just dicking around, they try and reel back what happened because it makes him look bad, and they HAVE to essentially call the cops liars to discount what was in the police report (police are considered under oath when they write those reports, by the way).
The police fill out an accident report. As I understand things, the original report included an event in which the woman who called 911 put her fingers in TO's mouth and tried to pry out a couple of pills that he tried to swallow after she had called 911.In the second, revised report, there is no mention of this incident. The obvious conclusion is that a.) this incident never happened, and the police either totally made this up or somehow misunderstood something someone said as (paraphrased) "he tried to swallow a couple more pills, but I put my fingers in his mouth and tried to pry them out;" or b.) she went back and changed her story, then called the first report inaccurate.I'm sorry, but I find the second scenario to be far, far more likely than the first. That being said, if you were an officer, and you filled out a report based on what someone told you, then that someone told everyone that she never said that and your report was inaccurate, wouldn't you be a little upset?For the record, that is why I believe they are asking for an apology. I don't necessarily agree with this request, and I definitely believe that the way in which they asked for it (I believe they called TO "a fancy little football player" and said the officers "were 10 times better than TO," or something along those lines) was completely unprofessional.
I think it was shown earlier that suicude isn't illegal. Try again.We go to suicide calls...all the time...everytime. No charges are filed because it ain't illegal to kill yourself. Some folks think others need to come along with them though, so we go to them all. Just in case. Not to own you, but to protect you.
nope, part of the businesslike someone you pulled over for DUI arguing the next day about how drunk he was.the cops did their job. walk away and let it lie.
What's the deal with the ESPN report of a player saying TO was depressed because his fiance broke off the engagement and he wouldn't be able to be with his daughter on her birthday?His PR person called them liars...
Doesn't she speak for TO ?
Let's put it this way, basically "TEAM T.O." is now saying that the cops made a big deal out of this, when they are the ones that called 911, and the dispatcher at the 911 center sends out police along with EMTs to the scene when there is a possible suicide. Who is the only one that has anything to gain by lying OTHER then T.O. ??? They went out to do there job, and because "TEAM T.O." doesn't like how the story is sounding now that it is out, they want to call the cops liars for putting in the police report what T.O. and his PR lady said??
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/15625252.htm
The guy that gets that DUI usually doesn't have every media source in the world hanging on this defendants every word, printing it and analyzing it either...
which is why i said this above
the cops would get way more respect from me if they stayed above it and backed away
Actually, I think mbuehner is being quite reasonable and rational in his statements. Not all of us are as eager to believe anything but the most outrageous scenarios when it comes to TO. While it's true that one must keep his greater body of work in mind at all times, it's also important to retain a sense of perspective when analyzing each individual incident.
As I read this post, I could hear Bob Ross talking....."Happy little tree..."
Can't wait...
It may die but it will only be a matter of time until TO does something else.
Yeah...lmao at all the conspiracy theorists.We see "Possiblbe Attempted Suicide" calls all the time that turn out to be nothing. Nobody ever hears about 'em though, 'cause they're just Joe Schmoes.
Incorrect.
If you are talking about the police report, it wasn't leaked. They are public. Anybody can look at them. THose officers are mostly thugs. I'll take TO any day over those clowns.
Actually, the only thing thats incorrect is that suicide is against the law in Texas. State DOES claim ownership over it's citizens AND cops had no good reason for being there (and they sure as hell weren't there to help). Thugs should have been out catching criminals instead of wasting taxpayer cash getting involved in things that aren't their business.
wow, some people jump out of the hole when it gets knee deep....you just keep diggin'
wow, you can't actually be serious. the number one media outlet for TO coverage is ESPN. and it's obvious where their views lie.
Dallas police I believe jumped the gun and reported w/o having all the facts.
For Dallas police!
Tell us how they should have handled the situation differently when they responded and the short time they had after to file a report?Dallas police I believe jumped the gun and reported w/o having all the facts.
The MAIN reason that ANYONE is quick to turn on TO is because of TO's past actions.
But that is the problem. If this is one time he didn't have anything to do with this his supporters should not be surprised at the reaction by people due to his past actions.
it's not surprising at all, it's just sadBut that is the problem. If this is one time he didn't have anything to do with this his supporters should not be surprised at the reaction by people due to his past actions.
And once again ESPN is left holding the bag. How many times do they have to get played before they go back to actual reporting of the news? I enjoyed them much more when they took news and reported it and provided analytical feedback.Since they became owned by ABC they are just another network looking for anything contraversial to get ratings. They no longer try to get the facts before they reprot but rather make the mad rush to be the first one to tell us what they don't know.Rogi said:
I'm sure we all have things we have said or done that were not proud of. I for one refuse to label a person by his/her past actions. I am more concerned with the person in the present.Fla\/\/ed said:
Thanks for posting this Flawed because I think this post uncovers part of the problem. Flawed points out that people are reacting to what thye have ssen before regarding TO. And he make the suggestion that it might not be their fault because of what TO has done in the past.IMHO-we as readers, listeners and observers are in fact responsibles for our reaction to others actions. Let me say that again in a different manner the way I teach my children:"You cannot control the actions of others but you can control your reaction to it".This is where many can lay blame. It's how we respond to things and tend to overreact. This is where the media has become unbearable at times and have credibility. ESPN was an example of this yesterday.But that is the problem. If this is one time he didn't have anything to do with this his supporters should not be surprised at the reaction by people due to his past actions.Bankerguy said:
Thanks for posting this Bankerguy. Your link is not good so I have found the right one for this article:http://www.mcall.com/sports/all-ag_quote-a...,2795214.columnBankerguy said:
I think it is really funny that people are blaming the police and ESPN and the paramedics for a bogus story based solely on the word of Terrell Owens. If it was a courtroom, you'd have those responders and hospital personnel able to speak freely and it would undoubtedly paint an entirely different story. Since no crime was committed, the police, rescue, and hospital personnel can't say much because of privacy reasons. Owens has taken advantage of this and has effectively established his carefully crafted story as the only public version available, and the naive have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker to the point that they now are ridiculing the police, rescue workers, and even the media. Rosenhaus and company are sipping fine wine and laughing at the public. I join them.
Nonsense.You wouldn't leave your children under the supervision of a daycare if you knew they employed someone who had previously been convicted as a pedophile, because of that pedophile's past actions.You wouldn't trust your money with an investment firm whose decision makers had a history of making poor financial decisions, because of the their past actions.You wouldn't bring your car back to a mechanic who had previously tried to rip you off, because of his past actions.I could come up with a hundred other examples. But to say you refuse to label a person because of his/her past actions is a load of bull.
Actually, the cops do have a role on calls like these. Patients who have attempted suicide can sometimes try again right on the spot. The police are summoned to:(a) help protect the medical first responders and bystanders from the patient. The patient may indeed not want any help, and may be violently opposed to receiving any.
That's an interesting take. I should clarify that I am not blaming the police or EMT's, just ESPN and other media that jumped before the facts were in. The police and EMT's did their job and did it fine from what I can see. The media's interpretation of the events is where it breaks down.Sometimes you just have to look at what's right in front of you to see what's going on. No way TO did what what he's accused of or he isn't playing/practicing football hours later. It was clear from looking at him that he didn't take 35 Vics. He may have too much of something but I highly doubt it was an attempted suicide.
