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I think he lost some confidence when Marty Munsonheimer went for it on 4 and 11 early in the game instead of just kicking the 47 yd field goal with Kaeding. He then puts him out there for the 51 yder to win the game and he misses it.
And what about Merriman that they got from the NYG first round pick the following year?
I think he lost some confidence when Marty Munsonheimer went for it on 4 and 11 early in the game instead of just kicking the 47 yd field goal with Kaeding. He then puts him out there for the 51 yder to win the game and he misses it.
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It was actually a 54 yard attempt. The big mistake was the challenge that cost them a timeout which could have gotten them in better position to score.
It was actually a 54 yard attempt. The big mistake was the challenge that cost them a timeout which could have gotten them in better position to score.
That challenge was stupid.Not to mention their other timeout is burned following a NE injury timeout. How can you not have the play set up correctly following an injury timeout? They have the personel to win, they just don't have a coach that can win in the playoffsThat challenge was stupid.
This game was riddled with piss poor game management by Shotty. Add to that the stupid Florence personal foul penalty, dropped passes and turnovers and this game was given to the Patriots. I am afraid that it's time to let Marty go. This team has too much talent to piss away big games like this on a regular basis.Not to mention their other timeout is burned following a NE injury timeout. How can you not have the play set up correctly following an injury timeout? They have the personel to win, they just don't have a coach that can win in the playoffsIt was actually a 54 yard attempt. The big mistake was the challenge that cost them a timeout which could have gotten them in better position to score.
That challenge was stupid.
One of the Charger WR's lined up wide left when he was supposed to be in the slot right, or something like that. Lack of composure killed the Chargers.What we saw in that last 6 minutes last night was a composed, seasoned-veteran team taking a game over from a team that was more highly skilled yet panicky.
Fixed. I think it sent the wrong messgae to his team, namely that that play was potentially back-breaking and that he needed to try something - anything - to try to undo it. They were still up by 8 points. It was obvious that there was nothing to challenge, and his staff had plenty of time to view a replay and tell him that before he threw the flag. The result: I for the first time in that game thought I was beginning to see another Schottenheimer team give away a playoff game down the stretch. That, plus the lost time out made that a big gaffe to me.
That challenge was stupid desperate.
The Chargers are 26/45 274 2/4?Eli Manning has the same playoff record as the Chargers in the last 3 years.
What part of "playoff record" confuses you?redman said:The Chargers are 26/45 274 2/4?
What part of "team sport" confuses you?What part of "playoff record" confuses you?redman said:The Chargers are 26/45 274 2/4?
The argument as you've framed it is flawed. It's more like:Brees + ROYor Rivers + Kaeding + Oben + MerrimanPersonally, I'd rather have Rivers than Brees, and Merriman than ROY, with Kaeding and Oben as icing on the cake.
ROY was available when Rivers was selected so you could have Merriman, Oben, and your playoff FG missing kicker. Framing it the way you did, you would have Fitz instead. WOW, Brees/LT/Gates/Fitz would be almost unstoppable. Best comparision I can come up with is Elway/TD/Sharpe/Smith.The argument as you've framed it is flawed. It's more like:Brees + ROYor Rivers + Kaeding + Oben + MerrimanPersonally, I'd rather have Rivers than Brees, and Merriman than ROY, with Kaeding and Oben as icing on the cake.
Edited for accuracy4th-10, NYJ22 4:23 OT N. Kaeding missed a 40-yard field goal
D. Brees QB31-42, 319 yds2 TDs, 1 INT
Good counterpoint, however my main basis in this argument is that taking a QB early is a waste. NE is running with a late round pick. NO has a cast off. Chicago's best QB is on the bench. Heck, even Indy is winning based on their defense covering Manning's picks in the postseason.I agree that SD didn't know what they had in Brees. Probably applies to Gates and LT too. I'll concede that Rivers has exceeded all expectations, however even with that level of excellence the team is lagging where it could have been.What a surprise to see Bass making negative posts about Rivers.
At that point, taking Rivers was perfectly reasonable, especially now that their view of his potential has been justified this season.After 2004, they should have traded Brees, with his value at its peak and Rivers' cap number making the impact too great to move him. And this isn't just my hindsight--I advocated it on this forum. They would have not only gotten some good players/picks for him, they also would have freed up salary cap room in 2005 that might have made a difference.That is really where they messed this up IMO. When they decided not to trade Brees after 2004, they set the stage for his season ending injury the following season, which killed any chance they had of gaining substantive value from trading him.Now, if you're not going to look at context of when they selected Rivers, and instead use perfect hindsight, you're playing a game that can be played with every single team out there.Code:+---------------------------------------+-----------------+ | Passing | Rushing |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| 2001 sdg | 1 | 15 27 55.6 221 8.2 1 0 | 2 18 0 || 2002 sdg | 16 | 320 526 60.8 3284 6.2 17 16 | 38 130 1 || 2003 sdg | 11 | 205 356 57.6 2108 5.9 11 15 | 21 84 0 || 2004 sdg | 15 | 262 400 65.5 3159 7.9 27 7 | 53 85 2 || 2005 sdg | 16 | 323 500 64.6 3576 7.2 24 15 | 21 49 1 || 2006 nor | 16 | 356 554 64.3 4418 8.0 26 11 | 42 32 0 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| TOTAL | 75 | 1481 2363 62.7 16766 7.1 106 64 | 177 398 4 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
