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what he has is the ability to delude people into thinking he's better than he ishe is not better than Brees, but people are so convinced he is, that the obvious course of action is to keep Brees (the better QB) and trade Cutler to the sucker who is willing to sell his soul to get him
Brees turns 30 this January, Cutler turns 26 in August. The difference for a QB isn't as large as the values would indicate.
If either one traded straight up for a RB or WR who would you expect to get:ForteStatonB MarshallColstontypes???
I think that is the key. Brees is better for near term, Cutler has longer time horizon. I would be happy keeping either - so I would just see what you can get for each one. I would think it would be more for Cutler because of the age thing and to some extent that there's a little more hype around Cutler. I would think because of perceived "potential" value - you trade Cutler and keep Brees. And then in the next few years you have some time to come up with a younger QB who winds up replacing Brees when he fades.
Its futile to project more than 2-3 years out, and Brees is at least equal to Cutler over that period of time. Yet, you can get a stud player for Cutler because of what people see as an investment for longer than that. Around week 4 I was able to move Cutler/Keith Rivers/3rd for Chris Johnson/Dustin Keller. I'm not sure I could have gotten the same deal without Cutler, but I actually value Brees higher. Win-win for me, and like sinatravolta said, I've got several years to find a suitable guy to take over when Brees starts to fall off.
Completely depends on the league. Not only type but also the values seem to fluctuate depending on owners. I've been in relatively standard 12 team leagues where an elite QB can draw almost any player in a trade, short of Peterson or in the past, LT. However, I've also been in some where you're pulling teeth to trade a QB and lucky to get a mid 1st. Larger leagues tend to place more value on QBs, as do those with a larger weight on QB scoring. But, often the values are independent of any discernible logic. I'd try for Forte, but expect Colston.
I think an effective running game only helps Cutler's numbers. And Marshall.footballguy#1 said:
He might be more efficient and accurate, but my point is I think he ends up throwing less.
Especially for late in the year, give me the QB that more than likely will be playing indoors. Just look what weather can do to a complete stud QB, like Warner this year and Brady last year. That being said, sometimes a QB will have a good game like Cassel, but that's the exception...I'd rather have the safe play and have a dome QB in December
I actually think a better ground game will help Cutlers numbers. The more RB's the Broncos lost this year, the more defenses focused on stopping the passing game, and Cutlers numbers suffered as the year went on. Teams were double and triple covering Marshall, and with Scheffler in and out of the lineup, Royal was their only other threat on offense. Also, too many Broncos drives stalled with a lack of a good running game. Cutler is only getting better, and a more consistent running game will help take some pressure of the young QB. Cutler and Brees are both top 3-5 dynasty QB's, but i would take Cutler over Brees, due to a bigger upside and the fact that Cutler is quite a bit younger.footballguy#1 said:
Elway had his best season with Davis in the picture in 96 and 97- at least as far as passing TD's go. His yardage those two seasons were on par with his career norms.In 98, his numbers dipped a bit but he missed 3 games and only attempted 356 passes that season.Even if Denver develops a solid running game, I still see Cutler throwing 500+ times per season.fsufan said:
I have had Manning his entire career plus Cutler in one league. I also have Brees in another league. Not sure who I would choose between Brees and Cutler if I had to.
Using Peyton as an argument is like using LT. Once in a generation talent is an exception, not a rule. There are always exceptions. LaDainian has given his owners great productions outside the 3 year window as well, that doesn't mean all RBs with a bright future are going to do so.I'll give you that QBs seem more likely to maintain production over the long haul, but its far from a lock. Going farther than 3 years is way too risky for me, and I very much doubt you'd find many of the "experts" that would put much of any weight on that. If you feel comfortable doing it, then good luck to you.
Had both. Offered both. Received lots of offers for Cutler, none for Brees.Maybe people were scared of the price tag I would put on Drew, but I ended up getting something for Cutler that I would have taken for Brees, so if they valued Drew higher then they screwed up.many are saying Cutler should have more value but it appears Brees would net the most coming back to me
what offers did you get for Cutler??
Post #10 above. Most were just starters ( "Hey, what do you want for Cutler" ), but I got none of those for Brees. Ended up taking Chris Johnson/Dustin Keller for Cutler/Keith Rivers/3rd round pick. 12 teams, relatively standard scoring PPR.
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I would factor in my decision that Cutler is playing with diabetes. Yes he had a great year, but who knows the long term effects on his playing ability. I would keep Brees over Cutler.
I think Jennings is worth more than Cutler in a Dynasty (young #1 WR are gold). Braylon is a crap shoot...really depends on whether you think the situation in Cle improves and his physical skills overcome his hands.
