Brees record get an *? (1 Viewer)

[QuizGuy66]

I feel like the less serious people in this thread got the ball rolling and have now let the serious people take over



-QG

 

[AmosMoses]

Some are acting like it was so easy to have broken Marino's record because of how pass happy the NFL is nowadays, but if that were the case, why was it not broken until now? The NFL has been pretty pass happy for quite a while now; this isn't something that just started happening this year, for God's sake.

Records are hard to break. That's why they are records.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Some are acting like it was so easy to have broken Marino's record because of how pass happy the NFL is nowadays, but if that were the case, why was it not broken until now? The NFL has been pretty pass happy for quite a while now; this isn't something that just started happening this year, for God's sake.

Records are hard to break. That's why they are records.

CDs are harder to break than records, cassette tapes are way harder to break than either.

 

[Otis]

Let's asterisk every record since they aren't achieved under identical circumstances.

 

[gianmarco]

The record was 5084 yards.

Brees is about to finish 24 yards shy of 5500 yards. Again, he didn't just break this record. He's destroyed it with 5476 yards.

Oh, and something else to keep in mind:

--New Orleans is about to finish 7th in the NFL in rushing yards

--New Orleans is about to finish 6th or 7th in the NFL in rushing TDs

So it's not as if they abandoned the running game en route to throwing for so many yards.

ASTERISK IT!!

 

[dickey moe]

Marino apologists: SHUT IT DOWN

 

[AmosMoses]

The record was 5084 yards.

Brees is about to finish 24 yards shy of 5500 yards. Again, he didn't just break this record. He's destroyed it with 5476 yards.

Oh, and something else to keep in mind:

--New Orleans is about to finish 7th in the NFL in rushing yards

--New Orleans is about to finish 6th or 7th in the NFL in rushing TDs

So it's not as if they abandoned the running game en route to throwing for so many yards.

ASTERISK IT!!

So there should be an asterisk for having one of the greatest single season overall offenses of all time, is that what you are saying?

 

[Man In The Box]

Hell of a season by Brees. He's fun to watch.

 

[Steelers4Life]

The record was 5084 yards.

Brees is about to finish 24 yards shy of 5500 yards. Again, he didn't just break this record. He's destroyed it with 5476 yards.

Oh, and something else to keep in mind:

--New Orleans is about to finish 7th in the NFL in rushing yards

--New Orleans is about to finish 6th or 7th in the NFL in rushing TDs

So it's not as if they abandoned the running game en route to throwing for so many yards.

ASTERISK IT!!

No asterisk necessary, obviously. Yardage is yardage.But he also threw the ball a ridiculous 85 more times than Marino did, with a lower YPA attempt in a much easier passing era.

Congrats Drew, very nice season.

 

[Bri]

As for Marino, his receiving options were fewer ...

I'm seeing this written here and there, and It's just not true. Marc Clayton (5x Pro Bowl) and Marc Duper (3x Pro Bowl) were stars in the mid-80s. Sure, they didn't keep it going all that long and didn't become HOFers, but they certainly were not pedestrian players.3rd WR Nat Moore was getting old by 1984, but he was a former All-Pro himself (1977). Not too bad for a 3rd WR.

Dan Marino enjoyed no third option that presented a coverage problem. In fact, the Dolphins legend arguably never played with a dominant tight end or running back throughout his entire career. The offensive sets werent as complex. I admire marino for doing more...with nothing. There should not be an asterisk to Brees accomplishment, he deserves the accolade.

The offensive set you guys are accustomed to was brought over by Spurrier and the USFL. Slot WRs weren't so common til then

 

[Luke Skywalker]

No asterisk necessary, obviously. Yardage is yardage.But he also threw the ball a ridiculous 85 more times than Marino did, with a lower YPA attempt in a much easier passing era.

I would say that's simply a function of the offense. Because of the Saints' passing scheme and effective running game, they ran more offensive plays from scrimmage than any other team in NFL history.

 

[General Tso]

If he doesn't win the MVP it's a freaking crime. Anyone who thinks Rogers is the MVP please explain Flynn's performance today. If Roger's was so valuable, how does the backup QB outperform him??????

 

[Steelers4Life]

No asterisk necessary, obviously. Yardage is yardage.But he also threw the ball a ridiculous 85 more times than Marino did, with a lower YPA attempt in a much easier passing era.

I would say that's simply a function of the offense. Because of the Saints' passing scheme and effective running game, they ran more offensive plays from scrimmage than any other team in NFL history.

Yep, I understand that. More than anything else to me, Brees' season makes Marino's 1984 season look that much more impressive considering that he was in a traditional offense and only threw the ball 572 times at a whopping 9.0 yards per attempt. Even in that offense under those rules, if Marino threw it 85 more times, that's another 765 more yards he'd have thrown for. He'd have eclipsed 50 TDs, too.

 

[General Tso]

And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

 

[Steelers4Life]

And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

No, she'd still be your aunt, only she'd have balls. Which would probably make her pretty unattractive.

 

[General Tso]

Maybe. Maybe not : )

 

[Ghost Rider]

If he doesn't win the MVP it's a freaking crime. Anyone who thinks Rogers is the MVP please explain Flynn's performance today. If Roger's was so valuable, how does the backup QB outperform him??????

Detroit is a young team and probably thought they could just show up and beat the Packers backup QB. Funny things happen when you think that way.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

9 out of the Saints last 10 games where in a Dome

 

[jon_mx]

I am pretty sure lots of records include games which happened in ideal weather or in domes. Games played in bad weather conditions which impact the game are in the small minority. If anything, I think Brees put an "!" on the record with the way he finished.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

Of the two seasons, Marino's 1984 was definitely the bigger fluke. What was Marino able to accomplish sans Clayton and Duper? Brees has accomplished plenty regardless of surrounding personnel.

 

[AngryPatriot]

Definitely an asterisk now, Brady is the new record holder!!

 

[Bri]

Of the two seasons, Marino's 1984 was definitely the bigger fluke. What was Marino able to accomplish sans Clayton and Duper? Brees has accomplished plenty regardless of surrounding personnel.

oh I don't know. Some Sundays it sure seemed Duper and Clayton just went deep and couldn't do more. That wasn't so true, but it was a common argument about the Marx brothers.

 

[jon_mx]

If he doesn't win the MVP it's a freaking crime. Anyone who thinks Rogers is the MVP please explain Flynn's performance today. If Roger's was so valuable, how does the backup QB outperform him??????

Detroit is a young team and probably thought they could just show up and beat the Packers backup QB. Funny things happen when you think that way.

Detroit played hard, and its secondary while beat up some isn't the worst in the league. I kind of think it does show that QB performance is a lot more than just one player. A great offensive line probably adds 30 points to a QB's rating. Having some stud WR's certainly is a big boost too. Flynn is a legitimate NFL starter IMO, but the talent he had on the field with him yesterday was a big contributor to his success. Put him out there with Denver's offensive line and WR's and his numbers would have been a lot more pedestrian.