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Brian Hartline (1 Viewer)

Not a monster game so far, but he currently has 4 catches for 59 yards with about five minutes left in the 3rd quarter. So far, I'm getting about what I expected out of him.

Miami is in control of the game, so I expect a lost of rushes as the game moves along, but hopefully he'll add a few more catches.

 
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4/59, not even double digits in PPR this week and a major disappointment outside of that. Good job by Cinci in putting a stop to a lot of Miami's pass offense.

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
4/59, not even double digits in PPR this week and a major disappointment outside of that. Good job by Cinci in putting a stop to a lot of Miami's pass offense.
They pretty much stopped passing the ball in the second half, or I think Hartline would have put up a slighty more respectable line.He did nothing to change my opinion that he's a solid WR3/flex option going forward. I doubt I'll be starting him in most weeks when I don't have injury/bye issues, but he's a guy that I certainly don't mind having on my bench.I started him over Steve Johnson (9.9 points) and Hixon (10.4 points). He got me 9.9, so he was pretty much in-line with everyone else on my team. I did bench Crabtree as well, but I would have started Johnson or Hixon over him anyway.
 
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4/59, not even double digits in PPR this week and a major disappointment outside of that. Good job by Cinci in putting a stop to a lot of Miami's pass offense.
Ok, I understand you're not high on the guy - but him having a "down" week of 4 & 59 with 5 targets is what you expect sometimes even from top WRs. Let's look at "down" weeks of guys ahead of Hartline in my main league:
[*]AJ Green - 5/70/0

[*]Brandon Marshall - 2/24/0

[*]Percy Harvin - 3/22/0

[*]Roddy White - 4/68/0

As Parcells might say "You are what your points say you are". In my league he's a top 10 WR right now. Even if you take out his top game a few weeks ago and replace it with what you might consider an average game (say 5/70) then he's still top 40. But that's kind of silly because if you take out every WRs top game as well then Hartline would move back up around the top 25 as a result.

Basically what i'm asking, MOP, is why are you so down on him? I'm not asking in a combative way, either. I'm sincerely curious if it is solely because of his injury history or are there other things I'm missing here?

To me it seems he's on a team with a young QB who's getting better and is locked in to throwing Hartline the ball as much as he can. I'm seeing a WR who will be very streaky but probably end up as a WR2/3 barring injury. His QB seems to be getting slightly better as the season goes on so I'd expect the "low" games to be not quite as low as the season progresses.

Am I missing something here - or are you just really not sold on him because you believe him getting inured is almost a certainty?

Just curious. :)

 
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He already told you guys what happened. Finnegan shut him down.

I'm not sure why anyone would think that he was going to have a big game against Finnegan. I questioned Dodds' ranking of him this week on the forums, because it just didn't make any sense to me.

 
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zero targets? How does that happen? He had a season low of 5?

I was expecting a sub-par day, but not a zero.

 
Sell high, dude cannot stay healthy, was injured all off season. Was injured much of last season. He's small/thin, cannot take a lot of punishment. Coming from a life long Miami fan. It's exciting but absurd at the same time.
Update please...in all seriousness Finnegan shut him down.
Didn't even catch a ball today. What happened?
Ya can anyone that watched the game tell us what happened to him?
The few times I watched the game today Tannehill never looked to the side of the field he was lined up on.
zero targets? How does that happen? He had a season low of 5?I was expecting a sub-par day, but not a zero.
He had a couple of targets that ended up being flags. -Tannehill was not looking over towards Finnegan, that is a fact. i watched every play, recorded 90% of them in the game thread, Miami's offense as a whole today was pretty bad. Tannehill was good 21/29, but Bess caught short stuff, Bush had some screens and short passes, Marlon Moore had some busted coverage, nothing to see there.
 
Seriously what is this guys floor and what is his ceiling? I think Hartline owners just want some reasonable middle ground in consecutive weeks if that's too much to ask. I'm so glad I was able to trade him away and his zero point game before kickoff yesterday. Destroyed his new owner (ok I feel guilty now), and catapulted my team from a sure loss to a probable win. So glad that I don't have to guess on Hartline anymore. Turn off your Hartline... :ph34r:

 
Seriously what is this guys floor and what is his ceiling? I think Hartline owners just want some reasonable middle ground in consecutive weeks if that's too much to ask. I'm so glad I was able to trade him away and his zero point game before kickoff yesterday. Destroyed his new owner (ok I feel guilty now), and catapulted my team from a sure loss to a probable win. So glad that I don't have to guess on Hartline anymore. Turn off your Hartline... :ph34r:
To me, it's starting to look like Hartline simply had one of those Flipper Anderson-type fluke games and he's a WR3 bye week filler at best.
 
Seriously what is this guys floor and what is his ceiling? I think Hartline owners just want some reasonable middle ground in consecutive weeks if that's too much to ask. I'm so glad I was able to trade him away and his zero point game before kickoff yesterday. Destroyed his new owner (ok I feel guilty now), and catapulted my team from a sure loss to a probable win. So glad that I don't have to guess on Hartline anymore. Turn off your Hartline... :ph34r:
Read page 1 and you can see Todem and I tried to warn everyone. This is not about MOP and Todem being right, in fact Hartline had an even bigger monster game against AZ after he had a huge one earlier in the year. Miami really has very few options at WR, they have a nice soft schedule going forward, Indy is coming up I believe, Hartline is going to be a decent start fro many of the games but he is going to get the DB1 from the other team so you gotta look at the match ups. Most of the SP proved MOP wrong because I would love to have Hartline as one of a couple WR3 types to have in my garage.

He played Finnegan and he allows a QB rating of less than 25, that isn't hyperbole, that's a FACT, look it up. Sherman and Philbin are not dumb, they went away from that coverage and took their chances on Jenkins, low and behold he made a rookie mistake on Miami's WR3-Moore and he scored. Miami won by the skin of their teeth yesterday, St Louis dominated them in almost all areas of the game EXCEPT at the QB position where THill was 21/29.

Hartline is a nice BUY LOW this week, in fact I think I might try trading for him but understand he is going to roll snake eyes some weeks. What's his floor? You saw it yesterday. His ceiling? You saw that already but he may never hit it again.

 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Seriously what is this guys floor and what is his ceiling? I think Hartline owners just want some reasonable middle ground in consecutive weeks if that's too much to ask. I'm so glad I was able to trade him away and his zero point game before kickoff yesterday. Destroyed his new owner (ok I feel guilty now), and catapulted my team from a sure loss to a probable win. So glad that I don't have to guess on Hartline anymore. Turn off your Hartline... :ph34r:
his floor is 0, and his ceiling is 12/253/1
 
I'm still hanging on to Hartline. I never really expected him to be a weekly starter, but I think you could do worse with a bottom of the bench boom/bust option. For me, he's probably the #6 option on my team behind Harvin, Marshall, Nicks, Stevie Johnson, and Crabtree...but in a must win situation or a difficult matchup, I may be willing to play him ahead of Johnson or Crabtree.

He's definitely a matchup play at this point. He isn't a skilled enough player to put up big numbers against elite CBs or top pass defenses. The good news is that I only see a couple tough matchups remaining on the Dolphins schedule for him. Week 8 against the Jets, he'll match up against Cromartie. Week 12 and 14 he'll play the Seahawks and 49ers. Other than that, he only plays one other pass defense that's in the top half of the league (the Colts, #15 against the pass).

I think he's a solid buy who you may be able to get for someone sitting at the bottom of your roster.

 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Seriously what is this guys floor and what is his ceiling? I think Hartline owners just want some reasonable middle ground in consecutive weeks if that's too much to ask. I'm so glad I was able to trade him away and his zero point game before kickoff yesterday. Destroyed his new owner (ok I feel guilty now), and catapulted my team from a sure loss to a probable win. So glad that I don't have to guess on Hartline anymore. Turn off your Hartline... :ph34r:
his floor is 0, and his ceiling is 12/253/1
rare to hit for the (bi)cycle in the same month.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Seriously what is this guys floor and what is his ceiling? I think Hartline owners just want some reasonable middle ground in consecutive weeks if that's too much to ask. I'm so glad I was able to trade him away and his zero point game before kickoff yesterday. Destroyed his new owner (ok I feel guilty now), and catapulted my team from a sure loss to a probable win. So glad that I don't have to guess on Hartline anymore. Turn off your Hartline... :ph34r:
his floor is 0, and his ceiling is 12/253/1
:lmao:
 
Yahoo is telling me that 10k have dropped him...is it time to give up?
I noticed this too, up to 15K in Yahoo and hoping the owner in my league follows with the masses. If you are in one of these league that he is getting dropped in, I'd say rush out at pick him up.
 
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:lol: at the 10K owners who all flipped the proverbial finger at Hartline for his 0 pt performance. “That’ll show you Flatline! You suck! GTFO my team! Why do I listen to Bloom and FBG’s sucker me into thinking he was a top 12 start this week? Ugh! FU Hartline!”

I don’t think Hartline is hearing or worrying about fantasy owner’s scorn. It’s nothing personal. It’s just fantasy football. But some owners take out their frustrations by letting talented bench options go out of spite. Or principal even. Who it is they are spiting don’t get the message anyway, but it gives them some comfort and irrational relief of sorts. ...to the waiver wire ya bum!

 
:lol: at the 10K owners who all flipped the proverbial finger at Hartline for his 0 pt performance. “That’ll show you Flatline! You suck! GTFO my team! Why do I listen to Bloom and FBG’s sucker me into thinking he was a top 12 start this week? Ugh! FU Hartline!”I don’t think Hartline is hearing or worrying about fantasy owner’s scorn. It’s nothing personal. It’s just fantasy football. But some owners take out their frustrations by letting talented bench options go out of spite. Or principal even. Who it is they are spiting don’t get the message anyway, but it gives them some comfort and irrational relief of sorts. ...to the waiver wire ya bum!
:rolleyes: Yes, I'm sure the owners who dropped him were taking it personal and trying to send him a message.The only people to :lol: at are the people who started him this week, like me. I'm not dropping him, but he'll be firmly planted to the end of my bench from here on out until he can perform more than once every 3 weeks.
 
I'm dropping him after spending a good amount to grab him off the wire. With short benches, he's now my WR#6 (behind D-Moore and Cobb) and I don't see him consistently outperforming either. With that said I wish I had the room to keep him...I think he will put up some good games the rest the way. Clearly he doesn't have the talent/speed/size to match up with studly CB's so he's a bye week/match-up play. At least he seems somewhat predictable in that regard.

 
He's on the bubble. I fear the Cinderella story is over
Never was there to begin with, he is the same as he was in September - a matchup play. Tannehill got knocked out and the Fins got a big lead early and didn't need to air it out. It happens.
 
I'll hold one more week unless a good player is dropped...but I think I'm ready to let him go.
I was never a big hartline guy, although I picked him up in one league, but I don't know why you'd expect a great week against the jets.we'll see who plays qb next week, but I think the schedule starts to open up for him.@IND TEN @BUF SEA NE @SF JAC BUFI've just parked him on the bench the last few weeks.
 
I'll hold one more week unless a good player is dropped...but I think I'm ready to let him go.
I was never a big hartline guy, although I picked him up in one league, but I don't know why you'd expect a great week against the jets.we'll see who plays qb next week, but I think the schedule starts to open up for him.@IND TEN @BUF SEA NE @SF JAC BUFI've just parked him on the bench the last few weeks.
:goodposting: Outside of SEA and SF, that's a great schedule and he should be a solid WR3 as long as Tannehill is healthy.
 
Looks like Gaffney might be worked into the line up more. has been running with the 1st team some.
Hartline and Gaffney on the outside with Bess as the slot WR? I'd love to see the Dolphins add Dwayne Bowe.Hartline still seems like the only MIA WR worth owning right now, I definitely wouldn't drop him with the upcoming schedule.
 
As long as Tannehill doesn't miss any time, he should have good value in his remaining games. Matt Moore seemed to really lock onto Bess yesterday.

 
'Kool-Aid Larry said:
'solorca said:
I'll hold one more week unless a good player is dropped...but I think I'm ready to let him go.
I was never a big hartline guy, although I picked him up in one league, but I don't know why you'd expect a great week against the jets.we'll see who plays qb next week, but I think the schedule starts to open up for him.@IND TEN @BUF SEA NE @SF JAC BUFI've just parked him on the bench the last few weeks.
Oh, I'm not expecting a huge week. I'm just holding because I am able to drop Phillip Tanner for another pickup, so there is no point in dropping him just yet on my team. We have 20 man rosters so there aren't a lot of great options out there anyway, and Hartline would be the best receiver on the wire. I'll drop if someone better happens to be available, but otherwise he can just sit on my bench as my WR6.
 
11 targets in 3 weeks, each game with fewer than Bess. Not sure what matchup with this offense would make Hartline worthy of a start at this point. Roster spot appears to be better suited for a wild card like Pierre Garcon

 

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