Brian Kelly (1 Viewer)

[derek245583]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again.

BK is a stud.

Discuss.

 

[CJsuperstud]

I wouldn't doubt it... As a Bearcat fan it will make me sick because I think BK can make some big things happen in Cincinnati. Notre Dame he can recruit nationally while at Cincinnati he is recruiting regionally. It would take him at least 5 years of continued BCS success to truly leave a lasting mark on the Cincinnati program. If he leaves after this season the Bearcats are headed back to mediocrity.

 

[derek245583]

I wouldn't doubt it... As a Bearcat fan it will make me sick because I think BK can make some big things happen in Cincinnati. Notre Dame he can recruit nationally while at Cincinnati he is recruiting regionally. It would take him at least 5 years of continued BCS success to truly leave a lasting mark on the Cincinnati program. If he leaves after this season the Bearcats are headed back to mediocrity.

Ya, just have to accept the fact that UC will always just be a "stepping stone".Its what some schools dont understand....the sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Going to go with Meyer here.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

La chaim

 

[johnnycakes]

CW was a stud before he came to ND.

 

[derek245583]

CW was a stud before he came to ND.

In the NFL...Did he ever coach in college?

 

[Please See Mine]

I wouldn't doubt it... As a Bearcat fan it will make me sick because I think BK can make some big things happen in Cincinnati. Notre Dame he can recruit nationally while at Cincinnati he is recruiting regionally. It would take him at least 5 years of continued BCS success to truly leave a lasting mark on the Cincinnati program. If he leaves after this season the Bearcats are headed back to mediocrity.

Ya, just have to accept the fact that UC will always just be a "stepping stone".Its what some schools dont understand....the sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.

[Rutgers]No Way![/Rutgers]

 

[koby925]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

Excellent. Then ND would stop missing out on Jewish recruits with Irish sounding last names.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

Excellent. Then ND would stop missing out on Jewish recruits with Irish sounding last names.

That's not that many recruits, and that's not what I'm getting at.

 

[derek245583]

I wouldn't doubt it... As a Bearcat fan it will make me sick because I think BK can make some big things happen in Cincinnati. Notre Dame he can recruit nationally while at Cincinnati he is recruiting regionally. It would take him at least 5 years of continued BCS success to truly leave a lasting mark on the Cincinnati program. If he leaves after this season the Bearcats are headed back to mediocrity.

Ya, just have to accept the fact that UC will always just be a "stepping stone".Its what some schools dont understand....the sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.

[Rutgers]No Way![/Rutgers]

That is why WVU was so hacked when RR left. They realized....bummer, we are just a pit stop...

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I hope not, it's more fun to watch Weis lose @ Notre Dame.

 

[timschochet]

Weis is more Jewish sounding than Kelly.

 

[The Z Machine]

So happy that Tedford is still at Cal. He's really been a savior.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Weis is more Jewish sounding than Kelly.

And?

 

[koby925]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

Excellent. Then ND would stop missing out on Jewish recruits with Irish sounding last names.

That's not that many recruits, and that's not what I'm getting at.

We need all the help we can get. In all seriousness, I would hope that this wouldn't be an issue for the faithful or for the administration.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

Something new. These coaches are wacko, plus that is his dream job.

 

[derek245583]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

Something new. These coaches are wacko, plus that is his dream job.

How much is he making at Florida?I thought he always wanted to coach at Ohio State.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

 

[ElGatoLoco]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

I don't know. The same way they reacted to Knute Rockne being from Norway.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

Something new. These coaches are wacko, plus that is his dream job.

How much is he making at Florida?I thought he always wanted to coach at Ohio State.

"Meyer's 2009 extension is worth $24 million over six years. At the time of the latest contract extension, Meyer is the third highest paid college football coach, behind Pete Carroll and Charlie Weis."

 

[derek245583]

So Notre Dame will pay him more and has more prestige. I guess Urban Meyer could very well be the #1 target.

I would bet on BK though.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

I don't know. The same way they reacted to Knute Rockne being from Norway.

A Norwegian Lutheran can pay homage to Touchdown Jesus without any sort of pangs of regret. Is Notre Dame really ready for "Touchdown Abraham"?

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

here is a somewhat hokey "Prestige" thing espn did awhile back.

 

[Greco]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

He made Central Michigan the beast that it is.

 

[ElGatoLoco]

Better start coming to terms with Notre Dame being in the top 10 again. BK is a stud.Discuss.

I'm pretty sure that Kelly is Jewish. How will the Notre Dame faithful react to that?

I don't know. The same way they reacted to Knute Rockne being from Norway.

A Norwegian Lutheran can pay homage to Touchdown Jesus without any sort of pangs of regret. Is Notre Dame really ready for "Touchdown Abraham"?

If this was truly a concern it would have been raised by now. With a name like Kelly most people will assume he is Irish Catholic, and even if they do happen to know I doubt any of them will care.

Holtz Name Meaning and History1. German: topographic name from Middle High German holz ‘small wood’, ‘copse’. 2. Jewish (Ashkenazic): from German Holz ‘wood’, either an ornamental name or a metonymic occupational name for a woodcutter or someone who sold wood. Weis Name Meaning and History1. German: nickname from Middle High German wis(e) ‘wise’, ‘clever’, ‘experienced’, Middle Low German wis. 2. Respelling of German and Jewish Weiss.

This is a ridiculous line of questioning here.

 

[Please See Mine]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

The point is that he can get any player he wants at Florida. Notre Dame is supposedly being restrictive about academics (and has been since Holtz left). Meyer can be as great of a coach as he wants, but won't succeed without the players.I don't know what the prestige is supposed to mean. UF is a top 5 program right now in all respects. No reason to leave.

 

[derek245583]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

The point is that he can get any player he wants at Florida. Notre Dame is supposedly being restrictive about academics (and has been since Holtz left). Meyer can be as great of a coach as he wants, but won't succeed without the players.I don't know what the prestige is supposed to mean. UF is a top 5 program right now in all respects. No reason to leave.

Historical Prestige my man...Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has always been a player.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Holtz: Name Meaning and History German: "small wood"

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

The point is that he can get any player he wants at Florida. Notre Dame is supposedly being restrictive about academics (and has been since Holtz left). Meyer can be as great of a coach as he wants, but won't succeed without the players.I don't know what the prestige is supposed to mean. UF is a top 5 program right now in all respects. No reason to leave.

Is the Florida job the best coaching job in all of college football?

 

[DreadedParms]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

I'm curious - who doesn't USC compare to? I would think they hold their own with just about anyone, prestige wise...

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

I'm curious - who doesn't USC compare to? I would think they hold their own with just about anyone, prestige wise...

take a look at the espn thing, because of their BCS dominance they have them #2 behind Oklahoma. However, if you toss the past 10 years, the slip back a bit.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Don't forget Faustbaum and Willingheimer

 

[DreadedParms]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

The point is that he can get any player he wants at Florida. Notre Dame is supposedly being restrictive about academics (and has been since Holtz left). Meyer can be as great of a coach as he wants, but won't succeed without the players.I don't know what the prestige is supposed to mean. UF is a top 5 program right now in all respects. No reason to leave.

Is the Florida job the best coaching job in all of college football?

Currently. But that can change (FSU, Miami, Alabama, etc.) Everything changes.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Most of Florida's success has come in the past 20 years. When using the eras before the BCS was created, Florida never finished higher than 27th in any of them. Through 1958, Florida was buried in the bottom half of the nation, behind schools such as Indiana, Vanderbilt and Rutgers. The Gators didn't win a bowl game in the '70s at all.

 

[gump]

I thought he always wanted to coach at Ohio State.

It's been linked many times on this board, but Meyer said within the last year or so that ND was his 'dream job' at one point.The issue with Meyer and ND is that he doesn't want to travel alot, with kids in high school. He doesnt' have to travel to recruit at UF...he does at ND.Many 'in the know' have also said recently that the Meyers have REALLY become comfortable in Gainesville. In the end, who knows what will ultimately motivate Meyer...if he wins 3 MNC in 4 years, he could feel like he's done it all there...but right now it looks like he'll either be at UF for a while or in the NFL.

 

[derek245583]

Most of Florida's success has come in the past 20 years. When using the eras before the BCS was created, Florida never finished higher than 27th in any of them. Through 1958, Florida was buried in the bottom half of the nation, behind schools such as Indiana, Vanderbilt and Rutgers. The Gators didn't win a bowl game in the '70s at all.

Like a gift from the heavens above...Tim Tebow was born in 1987...about the time the Florida Gators started to rise to national power.Spurrier was hired in 1990 I believe...

Tim Tebow makes everyone's life better.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I thought he always wanted to coach at Ohio State.

It's been linked many times on this board, but Meyer said within the last year or so that ND was his 'dream job' at one point.The issue with Meyer and ND is that he doesn't want to travel alot, with kids in high school. He doesnt' have to travel to recruit at UF...he does at ND.Many 'in the know' have also said recently that the Meyers have REALLY become comfortable in Gainesville. In the end, who knows what will ultimately motivate Meyer...if he wins 3 MNC in 4 years, he could feel like he's done it all there...but right now it looks like he'll either be at UF for a while or in the NFL.

The NFL is the most logical step, but as you said he wants to wait for his kids to graduate before making a move.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Most of Florida's success has come in the past 20 years. When using the eras before the BCS was created, Florida never finished higher than 27th in any of them. Through 1958, Florida was buried in the bottom half of the nation, behind schools such as Indiana, Vanderbilt and Rutgers. The Gators didn't win a bowl game in the '70s at all.

Like a gift from the heavens above...Tim Tebow was born in 1987...about the time the Florida Gators started to rise to national power.Spurrier was hired in 1990 I believe...

Tim Tebow makes everyone's life better.

him and jesus

 

[Jutz]

Historical Prestige my man...

Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has always been a player.

ALWAYS??? Maybe in name... but not results. Don't have the time to research this... but I don't recall ND being a 'player' for awhile... they had a good year with Quinn... but what about the years before that???It seems like you are stuck in the past. You focus on the fact that FL schools have a sub par past... and that ND was strong in the past... but somehow manage to ignore the most recent... say... 10 years???

 

[derek245583]

Historical Prestige my man...

Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has always been a player.

ALWAYS??? Maybe in name... but not results. Don't have the time to research this... but I don't recall ND being a 'player' for awhile... they had a good year with Quinn... but what about the years before that???It seems like you are stuck in the past. You focus on the fact that FL schools have a sub par past... and that ND was strong in the past... but somehow manage to ignore the most recent... say... 10 years???

We will just round it off for easy math100 years...last 10 years...10%

Florida has been comptetive for...lets just round it off...20%

So ND has NOT been competitive for 10% of football historty and Florida HAS been competitive for 20% of history.

People place too much value on the most recent. We are a "what have you done for me lately" country and this is a prime example.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Historical Prestige my man...

Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has always been a player.

ALWAYS??? Maybe in name... but not results. Don't have the time to research this... but I don't recall ND being a 'player' for awhile... they had a good year with Quinn... but what about the years before that???It seems like you are stuck in the past. You focus on the fact that FL schools have a sub par past... and that ND was strong in the past... but somehow manage to ignore the most recent... say... 10 years???

We will just round it off for easy math100 years...last 10 years...10%

Florida has been comptetive for...lets just round it off...20%

So ND has NOT been competitive for 10% of football historty and Florida HAS been competitive for 20% of history.

People place too much value on the most recent. We are a "what have you done for me lately" country and this is a prime example.

And college football fans place too much emphasis on prestige and the past. 19 year-old kids don't give a #### that Notre Dame did something once when they were still sperm. Most of their parents barely care.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Historical Prestige my man...

Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has always been a player.

ALWAYS??? Maybe in name... but not results. Don't have the time to research this... but I don't recall ND being a 'player' for awhile... they had a good year with Quinn... but what about the years before that???It seems like you are stuck in the past. You focus on the fact that FL schools have a sub par past... and that ND was strong in the past... but somehow manage to ignore the most recent... say... 10 years???

Here ya go:

Notre Dame haters would be quick to notice that the Irish earned almost a third of their Prestige Points before 1950. Of course, Notre Dame's recent struggles have been well documented, but we have to continue to pile it on here. ND has just one bowl win since 1994. Since 2000, Notre Dame has a third of the first-round draft picks that Boston College has (2 to 6). And since 1998, Notre Dame ranks 30th in the country, behind four non-BCS schools and both Oregon teams.

but it doesn't change the fact that, right or wrong, the ND job is the more prestigious "dream job". Maybe the future generation of coaches, kids, are sitting back dreaming of Urban Meyer's job. But that is only a recent thing. In the end, I really don't think the UF job is the pinnacle of college football coaching jobs...yet.

 

[Christo]

Going to go with Meyer here.

Why would Meyer ever leave UF? That's pretty much like predicting that Pete Carroll would be the next Notre Dame coach (even ignoring the rivalry).

from a prestige standpoint, UF doesn't even compare to ND or any of the other upper tier programs. (frankly, neither does USC).Set aside the past 15 years and take a look, UF's program was crap.

The point is that he can get any player he wants at Florida. Notre Dame is supposedly being restrictive about academics (and has been since Holtz left). Meyer can be as great of a coach as he wants, but won't succeed without the players.I don't know what the prestige is supposed to mean. UF is a top 5 program right now in all respects. No reason to leave.

Historical Prestige my man...Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has until RECENTLY always been a player.

fixed

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

*Disclaimer*

I ####### HATE Notre Dame.

 

[Jutz]

Historical Prestige my man...

Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has always been a player.

ALWAYS??? Maybe in name... but not results. Don't have the time to research this... but I don't recall ND being a 'player' for awhile... they had a good year with Quinn... but what about the years before that???It seems like you are stuck in the past. You focus on the fact that FL schools have a sub par past... and that ND was strong in the past... but somehow manage to ignore the most recent... say... 10 years???

We will just round it off for easy math100 years...last 10 years...10%

Florida has been comptetive for...lets just round it off...20%

So ND has NOT been competitive for 10% of football historty and Florida HAS been competitive for 20% of history.

People place too much value on the most recent. We are a "what have you done for me lately" country and this is a prime example.

Statistics don't lie... people that use statistics lie... your 'easy math' rounding to 100 years is very convienient. Just about any good college team could pick a cut off year that would make them look good... but... having said that...I agree with you and JerseyToughGuy... ND is definitely a more prestigous job... I can't argue that... just anytime I see the word 'always' and 'never' it raises a red flag...

 

[derek245583]

Historical Prestige my man...

Florida, Florida State, etc. are just RECENTLY players....Notre Dame has always been a player.

ALWAYS??? Maybe in name... but not results. Don't have the time to research this... but I don't recall ND being a 'player' for awhile... they had a good year with Quinn... but what about the years before that???It seems like you are stuck in the past. You focus on the fact that FL schools have a sub par past... and that ND was strong in the past... but somehow manage to ignore the most recent... say... 10 years???

We will just round it off for easy math100 years...last 10 years...10%

Florida has been comptetive for...lets just round it off...20%

So ND has NOT been competitive for 10% of football historty and Florida HAS been competitive for 20% of history.

People place too much value on the most recent. We are a "what have you done for me lately" country and this is a prime example.

Statistics don't lie... people that use statistics lie... your 'easy math' rounding to 100 years is very convienient. Just about any good college team could pick a cut off year that would make them look good... but... having said that...I agree with you and JerseyToughGuy... ND is definitely a more prestigous job... I can't argue that... just anytime I see the word 'always' and 'never' it raises a red flag...

Fair enough. Shouldnt have said always and never.

 

[saintfool]

Florida is the better gig these days. ND needs some players in the NFL that are worth a damn or a national championship to change the perception otherwise...