Brian Westbrook, a smart pick at #5? (1 Viewer)

[raidersrule1281]

Brian Westbrook was the fourth most productive runningback last year and is coming off a career NFL season. That was with Donovan McNabb getting injured and him missing some playing time due to his own injury. The league that I am in is a ppr league with 12 teams and we have changed the ydage pt system to 10 yds rushing and receiving per point to dilute the value of TDs. With Donovan McNabb coming back (although supposedly looking terrible in camp), is it justifiable to take Westbrook over Addai, FWP, and Shaun A?

 

[Colin Dowling]

1. Yes

2. Welcome to the Footballguys boards. MOst questions like this go in the Assistant Coach's forum.

 

[raidersrule1281]

and to mention he caught 77 balls for just under 700 yards....forget to mention that.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

In PPR, I would not take him over Addai, but I would take him over the others you mentioned.

 

[zadok]

With Donovan McNabb coming back (although supposedly looking terrible in camp),

Don't know where you got that from, but it's incorrect. He looked excellent when I was there.

 

[raidersrule1281]

Sorry, first time poster, for not putting this in assisant coach's section....my bad

 

[mikedee]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MXydcgz4DU

Here's your answer.

 

[buck naked]

If you want a guy who appeared on the injury report 13 times last year, missed one game with his knee very unexpectedly last year, and is already resting his knee this year, then he is your man. For me, at #5, I would not.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

"News: Westbrook (knee swelling) returned to action Tuesday for the first time in three days, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports.

Spin: Westbrook wasted no time showing why he is not only the Eagles' No. 1 back but also one of the elite runners in the NFL. On a pitch to the left side, Westbrook encountered defensive end Trent Cole and safety C.J. Gaddis. Neither defensive player could tackle Westbrook, whose stutter step left them colliding with one another while he finished a 10-yard touchdown run. "

 

[ceo3west]

If you want a guy who appeared on the injury report 13 times last year, missed one game with his knee very unexpectedly last year, and is already resting his knee this year, then he is your man. For me, at #5, I would not.

It seemed like he was a game time decision every week last year. The Westy owner in my league had him on his bench for a few big weeks because of this. Thanks, but I'll pass and let someone else deal with this headache.

 

[Jon_Moore]

I had him last year and absolutely loved it.

In PPR I would rank him 4th actually, maybe 3rd if you think Johnson's going to see a significant downgrade. Westbrook is one of the best playmakers in the game, and should be the focal point of the Eagles offense in 2007.

Bush may catch more passes, but I believe Westbrook amasses more total yards and touchdowns. H

 

[gigantor]

I took him 4th last night. Worth it.

 

[gigantor]

If you want a guy who appeared on the injury report 13 times last year, missed one game with his knee very unexpectedly last year, and is already resting his knee this year, then he is your man. For me, at #5, I would not.

Yea, Emmitt was on the injury report all the time.

 

[SSOG]

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

Reggie Bush averaged 5.5 catches per game last season on a team that led the league in completions.Brian Westbrook has averaged 5.1, 5.1, and 5.6 catches per season over the last three years on a team that ranked 13th, 9th, and 8th in completions.

In other words, Westbrook has averaged a very comparable number of catches per game on a team that is less likely to regress to the mean, and he's done this over a three-year span (compared to a single year for Bush), *AND* he's had drastically better YPC numbers (4.7 to 3.6), Yard per Reception numbers (9.5 to 8.4), TDs per touch numbers (1-per-26 to 1-per-30), yard per game numbers (116.6 to 81.7)... and yet you'd prefer Bush? Westy is DRASTICALLY more proven, DRASTICALLY more productive, in a DRASTICALLY better situation, and DRASTICALLY less likely to decline. The only thing drastic about Reggie Bush is how overrated he is based on an 88-catch season that is more likely, based on historical numbers, to prove to be a fluke than a harbinger of things to come.

Reggie Bush had 266.7 fantasy points last season in PPR leagues. In his worst season of the last three years, Westbrook scored 226 points... in 12 games (on pace for 301). In PPR leagues, Westbrook is a Capital S, Capital T, Capital U, Capital D.

 

[Native]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MXydcgz4DU

Here's your answer.

Incredible. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

Reggie Bush averaged 5.5 catches per game last season on a team that led the league in completions.Brian Westbrook has averaged 5.1, 5.1, and 5.6 catches per season over the last three years on a team that ranked 13th, 9th, and 8th in completions.

In other words, Westbrook has averaged a very comparable number of catches per game on a team that is less likely to regress to the mean, and he's done this over a three-year span (compared to a single year for Bush), *AND* he's had drastically better YPC numbers (4.7 to 3.6), Yard per Reception numbers (9.5 to 8.4), TDs per touch numbers (1-per-26 to 1-per-30), yard per game numbers (116.6 to 81.7)... and yet you'd prefer Bush? Westy is DRASTICALLY more proven, DRASTICALLY more productive, in a DRASTICALLY better situation, and DRASTICALLY less likely to decline. The only thing drastic about Reggie Bush is how overrated he is based on an 88-catch season that is more likely, based on historical numbers, to prove to be a fluke than a harbinger of things to come.

Reggie Bush had 266.7 fantasy points last season in PPR leagues. In his worst season of the last three years, Westbrook scored 226 points... in 12 games (on pace for 301). In PPR leagues, Westbrook is a Capital S, Capital T, Capital U, Capital D.

You are the Jack Van Impe of the Shark Pool. Numbers this, stats that. I expect Bush to be more involved in the offense, particluarly in the running game and score more than the 7 tds that he did last year.

And I don't agree that Westbrook is in a DRASTICALLY better situation.

You know what stat bothers me about Westbrook? - 15, 15, 13, 12, 15. He's never lasted a full season and two of the last three years has worn down at the worst time - playoffs. The addition of Tony Hunt may help that, but we'll see.

Regardles, I'm just funnin' with you a bit. I twist my arm or wait until tomorrow and I'd probably rank Westbrook over Bush. There's not much difference between the two to me. Call today's ranking a hunch.

 

[GDogg]

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

Reggie Bush averaged 5.5 catches per game last season on a team that led the league in completions.Brian Westbrook has averaged 5.1, 5.1, and 5.6 catches per season over the last three years on a team that ranked 13th, 9th, and 8th in completions.

In other words, Westbrook has averaged a very comparable number of catches per game on a team that is less likely to regress to the mean, and he's done this over a three-year span (compared to a single year for Bush), *AND* he's had drastically better YPC numbers (4.7 to 3.6), Yard per Reception numbers (9.5 to 8.4), TDs per touch numbers (1-per-26 to 1-per-30), yard per game numbers (116.6 to 81.7)... and yet you'd prefer Bush? Westy is DRASTICALLY more proven, DRASTICALLY more productive, in a DRASTICALLY better situation, and DRASTICALLY less likely to decline. The only thing drastic about Reggie Bush is how overrated he is based on an 88-catch season that is more likely, based on historical numbers, to prove to be a fluke than a harbinger of things to come.

Reggie Bush had 266.7 fantasy points last season in PPR leagues. In his worst season of the last three years, Westbrook scored 226 points... in 12 games (on pace for 301). In PPR leagues, Westbrook is a Capital S, Capital T, Capital U, Capital D.

I agree that he's a stud in PPR leagues, but that last paragraph is the rub, isn't it? He misses games. Every year. And, usually when you need him most. I am always of the opinion that you worry about the FF Championship when it comes around, but since he became the full-time starter for the Eagles, he's played in Week 16 once (last year and he had a great game).

In 2005, he missed the entire fantasy playoffs.

In 2004, he missed what would have been most championship weeks (Week 16).

He's a stud, but he does carry a great deal of risk.

 

[Birdie048]

If you want a guy who appeared on the injury report 13 times last year, missed one game with his knee very unexpectedly last year, and is already resting his knee this year, then he is your man. For me, at #5, I would not.

Same here.... thus I traded him last week!

 

[chris1969]

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

Reggie Bush averaged 5.5 catches per game last season on a team that led the league in completions.Brian Westbrook has averaged 5.1, 5.1, and 5.6 catches per season over the last three years on a team that ranked 13th, 9th, and 8th in completions.

In other words, Westbrook has averaged a very comparable number of catches per game on a team that is less likely to regress to the mean, and he's done this over a three-year span (compared to a single year for Bush), *AND* he's had drastically better YPC numbers (4.7 to 3.6), Yard per Reception numbers (9.5 to 8.4), TDs per touch numbers (1-per-26 to 1-per-30), yard per game numbers (116.6 to 81.7)... and yet you'd prefer Bush? Westy is DRASTICALLY more proven, DRASTICALLY more productive, in a DRASTICALLY better situation, and DRASTICALLY less likely to decline. The only thing drastic about Reggie Bush is how overrated he is based on an 88-catch season that is more likely, based on historical numbers, to prove to be a fluke than a harbinger of things to come.

Reggie Bush had 266.7 fantasy points last season in PPR leagues. In his worst season of the last three years, Westbrook scored 226 points... in 12 games (on pace for 301). In PPR leagues, Westbrook is a Capital S, Capital T, Capital U, Capital D.

You are the Jack Van Impe of the Shark Pool. Numbers this, stats that. :( I expect Bush to be more involved in the offense, particluarly in the running game and score more than the 7 tds that he did last year.

And I don't agree that Westbrook is in a DRASTICALLY better situation.

You know what stat bothers me about Westbrook? - 15, 15, 13, 12, 15. He's never lasted a full season and two of the last three years has worn down at the worst time - playoffs. The addition of Tony Hunt may help that, but we'll see.

Regardles, I'm just funnin' with you a bit. I twist my arm or wait until tomorrow and I'd probably rank Westbrook over Bush. There's not much difference between the two to me. Call today's ranking a hunch.

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

 

[Riffraff]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MXydcgz4DU

Here's your answer.

The run at the 2:33 mark is suh-weet !

 

[SSOG]

You are the Jack Van Impe of the Shark Pool. Numbers this, stats that.

I'll take it, as long as I can convert a few nonbelievers in the process.

I expect Bush to be more involved in the offense, particluarly in the running game and score more than the 7 tds that he did last year.And I don't agree that Westbrook is in a DRASTICALLY better situation. You know what stat bothers me about Westbrook? - 15, 15, 13, 12, 15. He's never lasted a full season and two of the last three years has worn down at the worst time - playoffs. The addition of Tony Hunt may help that, but we'll see.Regardles, I'm just funnin' with you a bit. I twist my arm or wait until tomorrow and I'd probably rank Westbrook over Bush. There's not much difference between the two to me. Call today's ranking a hunch.

Upon rethinking it, I agree that Westbrook isn't in a drastically better situation, but I do believe it's better. I'd rather compete for catches with Reggie Brown and Hank Baskett than Marques Colston and Devery Henderson, and I still believe that he's in a drastically SAFER situation. There's just a lot more history of offensive success, RB involvement in the passing game, and RB success in Philly than there is in New Orleans, and three straight 5+ catch per game seasons is a lot more comforting than a single 5+ catch per game season this decade. And as for the injury risk... while I agree that it's there, I don't think that Bush at 6'-0" and 200 lbs is going to prove any more durable than Westy at 5'-8" and 200 lbs.

 

[Woz]

With Donovan McNabb coming back (although supposedly looking terrible in camp),

Don't know where you got that from, but it's incorrect. He looked excellent when I was there.

Looked equally great to me too

 

[avoiding injuries]

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

What if it's the first 10 games? I'm pretty consistent on making the playoffs, but you usually need your 1st round pick to make any noise in the postseason.I'll take a lower total on a consistent basis.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

What if it's the first 10 games? I'm pretty consistent on making the playoffs, but you usually need your 1st round pick to make any noise in the postseason.I'll take a lower total on a consistent basis.

That's exactly the point. I'll take Westy because his PPG is higher and consistently so.Last I checked I bench guys who are hurt. As long as I get 12+ great performances from Westbrook, I'm happy with that.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

Reggie Bush averaged 5.5 catches per game last season on a team that led the league in completions.Brian Westbrook has averaged 5.1, 5.1, and 5.6 catches per season over the last three years on a team that ranked 13th, 9th, and 8th in completions.

In other words, Westbrook has averaged a very comparable number of catches per game on a team that is less likely to regress to the mean, and he's done this over a three-year span (compared to a single year for Bush), *AND* he's had drastically better YPC numbers (4.7 to 3.6), Yard per Reception numbers (9.5 to 8.4), TDs per touch numbers (1-per-26 to 1-per-30), yard per game numbers (116.6 to 81.7)... and yet you'd prefer Bush? Westy is DRASTICALLY more proven, DRASTICALLY more productive, in a DRASTICALLY better situation, and DRASTICALLY less likely to decline. The only thing drastic about Reggie Bush is how overrated he is based on an 88-catch season that is more likely, based on historical numbers, to prove to be a fluke than a harbinger of things to come.

Reggie Bush had 266.7 fantasy points last season in PPR leagues. In his worst season of the last three years, Westbrook scored 226 points... in 12 games (on pace for 301). In PPR leagues, Westbrook is a Capital S, Capital T, Capital U, Capital D.

You forgot to mention that Westbrook is DRASTICALLY more fragile and Bush's potential is still untapped. It's not out of the question to choose Bush over Westbrook in a PPR league.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

You are the Jack Van Impe of the Shark Pool. Numbers this, stats that.

I'll take it, as long as I can convert a few nonbelievers in the process.

I expect Bush to be more involved in the offense, particluarly in the running game and score more than the 7 tds that he did last year.And I don't agree that Westbrook is in a DRASTICALLY better situation. You know what stat bothers me about Westbrook? - 15, 15, 13, 12, 15. He's never lasted a full season and two of the last three years has worn down at the worst time - playoffs. The addition of Tony Hunt may help that, but we'll see.Regardles, I'm just funnin' with you a bit. I twist my arm or wait until tomorrow and I'd probably rank Westbrook over Bush. There's not much difference between the two to me. Call today's ranking a hunch.

Upon rethinking it, I agree that Westbrook isn't in a drastically better situation, but I do believe it's better. I'd rather compete for catches with Reggie Brown and Hank Baskett than Marques Colston and Devery Henderson, and I still believe that he's in a drastically SAFER situation. There's just a lot more history of offensive success, RB involvement in the passing game, and RB success in Philly than there is in New Orleans, and three straight 5+ catch per game seasons is a lot more comforting than a single 5+ catch per game season this decade. And as for the injury risk... while I agree that it's there, I don't think that Bush at 6'-0" and 200 lbs is going to prove any more durable than Westy at 5'-8" and 200 lbs.

NO does not have a ton of history throwing to their backs because Payton has only been there 1 year and Bush has only been there 1 year. It's about adjusting to your personnel and Payton did an excellent job playing to the strengths of not only Bush and McAllister but Brees as well.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Reggie Bush > Westbrook in a PPR.

1. LT

2. SJax

3. LJ

4. Gore

5. Bush

6. Westbrook

IMO.

Reggie Bush averaged 5.5 catches per game last season on a team that led the league in completions.Brian Westbrook has averaged 5.1, 5.1, and 5.6 catches per season over the last three years on a team that ranked 13th, 9th, and 8th in completions.

In other words, Westbrook has averaged a very comparable number of catches per game on a team that is less likely to regress to the mean, and he's done this over a three-year span (compared to a single year for Bush), *AND* he's had drastically better YPC numbers (4.7 to 3.6), Yard per Reception numbers (9.5 to 8.4), TDs per touch numbers (1-per-26 to 1-per-30), yard per game numbers (116.6 to 81.7)... and yet you'd prefer Bush? Westy is DRASTICALLY more proven, DRASTICALLY more productive, in a DRASTICALLY better situation, and DRASTICALLY less likely to decline. The only thing drastic about Reggie Bush is how overrated he is based on an 88-catch season that is more likely, based on historical numbers, to prove to be a fluke than a harbinger of things to come.

Reggie Bush had 266.7 fantasy points last season in PPR leagues. In his worst season of the last three years, Westbrook scored 226 points... in 12 games (on pace for 301). In PPR leagues, Westbrook is a Capital S, Capital T, Capital U, Capital D.

You are the Jack Van Impe of the Shark Pool. Numbers this, stats that. I expect Bush to be more involved in the offense, particluarly in the running game and score more than the 7 tds that he did last year.

And I don't agree that Westbrook is in a DRASTICALLY better situation.

You know what stat bothers me about Westbrook? - 15, 15, 13, 12, 15. He's never lasted a full season and two of the last three years has worn down at the worst time - playoffs. The addition of Tony Hunt may help that, but we'll see.

Regardles, I'm just funnin' with you a bit. I twist my arm or wait until tomorrow and I'd probably rank Westbrook over Bush. There's not much difference between the two to me. Call today's ranking a hunch.

You do realize in 2004 he missed 2 games due to coaches decision since the Eagles had the division and home-field already wrapped up. So his games would have looked like this if the coaches didn't hold him out (along with others, McNabb, Kearse, etc.): 15, 15, 15, 12, 15. He's missed 8 games over 5 years due to injury and half of those came in 2005. Does he get nicked up? Sure. Will he be on the injury report? Probably. But it's not like he's missing big chunks of time.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

You do realize in 2004 he missed 2 games due to coaches decision since the Eagles had the division and home-field already wrapped up. So his games would have looked like this if the coaches didn't hold him out (along with others, McNabb, Kearse, etc.): 15, 15, 15, 12, 15. He's missed 8 games over 5 years due to injury and half of those came in 2005. Does he get nicked up? Sure. Will he be on the injury report? Probably. But it's not like he's missing big chunks of time.

Actually, I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out. Here's my revised ranking:1. LT2. SJ3. LJ4. Gore5. Westbrook5a. Bu####'s not really a meaningful debate in my eyes. I personally would be just as satisfied in a PPR league getting either guy.

 

[ceo3west]

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

What if it's the first 10 games? I'm pretty consistent on making the playoffs, but you usually need your 1st round pick to make any noise in the postseason.I'll take a lower total on a consistent basis.

That's exactly the point. I'll take Westy because his PPG is higher and consistently so.Last I checked I bench guys who are hurt. As long as I get 12+ great performances from Westbrook, I'm happy with that.

So you'll be happy with V. Morency as your #1 RB in week 14 because Westy is a game-time decision? Good luck with that.

 

[H.K.]

Last year Westy averaged 22.2 PPG to Bush's 16.5, Deuce is still in NO, so I think Westy is the clear pick in PPR.

Addai may be the other guy people should be talking about here, though. He averaged 18.8 PPR PPG (compared to 14.2 PPG regular season) in the playoffs in a split role with Rhodes....

 

[Leroy's Aces]

Last year Westy averaged 22.2 PPG to Bush's 16.5, Deuce is still in NO, so I think Westy is the clear pick in PPR.Addai may be the other guy people should be talking about here, though. He averaged 18.8 PPR PPG (compared to 14.2 PPG regular season) in the playoffs in a split role with Rhodes....

Bush averaged 22.5 points last year in weeks 10-16 when he admitted that the "light came on" and he started to run the way he should. Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick in the 2006 draft (Houston got paid off by the Save New Orleans/Paul Tag's Last Great Move Committee) and will only get more touches this year one would imagine.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Last year Westy averaged 22.2 PPG to Bush's 16.5, Deuce is still in NO, so I think Westy is the clear pick in PPR.Addai may be the other guy people should be talking about here, though. He averaged 18.8 PPR PPG (compared to 14.2 PPG regular season) in the playoffs in a split role with Rhodes....

Bush averaged 22.5 points last year in weeks 10-16 when he admitted that the "light came on" and he started to run the way he should. Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick in the 2006 draft (Houston got paid off by the Save New Orleans/Paul Tag's Last Great Move Committee) and will only get more touches this year one would imagine.

I suspected the numbers were like that, but hadn't bothered to put them together. Nice job!

 

[-Crippler-]

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

 

[H.K.]

Last year Westy averaged 22.2 PPG to Bush's 16.5, Deuce is still in NO, so I think Westy is the clear pick in PPR.Addai may be the other guy people should be talking about here, though. He averaged 18.8 PPR PPG (compared to 14.2 PPG regular season) in the playoffs in a split role with Rhodes....

Bush averaged 22.5 points last year in weeks 10-16 when he admitted that the "light came on" and he started to run the way he should. Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick in the 2006 draft (Houston got paid off by the Save New Orleans/Paul Tag's Last Great Move Committee) and will only get more touches this year one would imagine.

I suspected the numbers were like that, but hadn't bothered to put them together. Nice job!

Bush also averaged about 22 and change in his playoff games, too. He's a great player and definitely got better as the year went on.....but so did Addai. All told, Bush outscored Addai 264 to 226 in PPR last season....but Rhodes and his 150+ PPR points have left Indy, and somebody is going to get those stats. Even if Addai gets a mere portion of them, then he's in line with Bush.....and if he gets the bulk of it, he'll blow by him.As a Colt, Edge had 311 PPR FF points in 2005 and 295 in 2004....and he was not the player he was before his knee injury. RB1 in Indy will put up BIG numbers, right now it looks like Addai's only red flag is injury and it shouldn't be any more of a concern with him than with Westbrook. We KNOW what the Colts offense is going to do every year, but with the Saints, are you as confident as you are with Indy?

 

[cowpie]

I agree with those saying that there are too many risks with westbrooke. not that he isn't good, but it IS your FIRST PICK, and if he goes down or you never know when he is gonna play or not, then that can really screw up a season.

not to mention you sunday mornings.

I like addai, but he is still unknown. I would say more after week 3 of the preseason on him to see how his back up is.

What about parker? he gets better every year, and catches the ball too.

hey, he just happened to finish #5 last year too. Sounds like a good pick to me.

 

[SSOG]

Last year Westy averaged 22.2 PPG to Bush's 16.5, Deuce is still in NO, so I think Westy is the clear pick in PPR.Addai may be the other guy people should be talking about here, though. He averaged 18.8 PPR PPG (compared to 14.2 PPG regular season) in the playoffs in a split role with Rhodes....

Bush averaged 22.5 points last year in weeks 10-16 when he admitted that the "light came on" and he started to run the way he should. Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick in the 2006 draft (Houston got paid off by the Save New Orleans/Paul Tag's Last Great Move Committee) and will only get more touches this year one would imagine.

Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick? I'm sure you're wholly qualified to make that claim, but I'd respectfully like to disagree. The Denver Broncos said he wasn't even the #1 RUNNINGBACK on their board (Maroney was). And Denver obviously preferred Cutler to Maroney (or else they would have taken Maroney when they had the chance), so that means, for Denver at least, there's no way Bush could have been ranked higher than #3 at the absolute best (assuming they didn't have Young and Leinart in front of Bush, too, at the very least). I suspect there were other teams that felt the same way. Just because the media was collectively fellating Bush like there was no tomorrow doesn't mean that all the teams felt the same way. That's already two teams that we know of that disagreed, who's to say that there weren't a half dozen more?

 

[chris1969]

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

What if it's the first 10 games? I'm pretty consistent on making the playoffs, but you usually need your 1st round pick to make any noise in the postseason.I'll take a lower total on a consistent basis.

That's exactly the point. I'll take Westy because his PPG is higher and consistently so.Last I checked I bench guys who are hurt. As long as I get 12+ great performances from Westbrook, I'm happy with that.

So you'll be happy with V. Morency as your #1 RB in week 14 because Westy is a game-time decision? Good luck with that.

If I have LJ, Gore, Westy or a few other guys at #1 I'll have a solid RB #3 with a good playoff schedule.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

What if it's the first 10 games? I'm pretty consistent on making the playoffs, but you usually need your 1st round pick to make any noise in the postseason.I'll take a lower total on a consistent basis.

That's exactly the point. I'll take Westy because his PPG is higher and consistently so.Last I checked I bench guys who are hurt. As long as I get 12+ great performances from Westbrook, I'm happy with that.

So you'll be happy with V. Morency as your #1 RB in week 14 because Westy is a game-time decision? Good luck with that.

If I have LJ, Gore, Westy or a few other guys at #1 I'll have a solid RB #3 with a good playoff schedule.

Happened to me in 2005 and I plugged in best RB available. I think it was Jonathan Wells (?). If I am in the playoffs and must rely on RB3 or RB4, I'll take that chance. At least I'm in the postseason.2006 I lost Ron Brown, so enter LBetts.This is why you draft 5-6 RBs or more. And a handcuff if applicable. (IMHO Philly is a RBBC if Westy goes down).

 

[Hawk Fan]

Westbrook in 10 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Bush in 16.

What if it's the first 10 games? I'm pretty consistent on making the playoffs, but you usually need your 1st round pick to make any noise in the postseason.I'll take a lower total on a consistent basis.

That's exactly the point. I'll take Westy because his PPG is higher and consistently so.Last I checked I bench guys who are hurt. As long as I get 12+ great performances from Westbrook, I'm happy with that.

So you'll be happy with V. Morency as your #1 RB in week 14 because Westy is a game-time decision? Good luck with that.

If I have LJ, Gore, Westy or a few other guys at #1 I'll have a solid RB #3 with a good playoff schedule.

Happened to me in 2005 and I plugged in best RB available. I think it was Jonathan Wells (?). If I am in the playoffs and must rely on RB3 or RB4, I'll take that chance. At least I'm in the postseason.2006 I lost Ron Brown, so enter LBetts.This is why you draft 5-6 RBs or more. And a handcuff if applicable. (IMHO Philly is a RBBC if Westy goes down).

Good times. This reminds me of 2005 when I won the Super Bowl with Zach Crockett and Ryan Moats after Deuce, Westbrook, and Lamont Jordan all got hurt that year.

 

[buster c]

Last year Westy averaged 22.2 PPG to Bush's 16.5, Deuce is still in NO, so I think Westy is the clear pick in PPR.

Addai may be the other guy people should be talking about here, though. He averaged 18.8 PPR PPG (compared to 14.2 PPG regular season) in the playoffs in a split role with Rhodes....

Bush averaged 22.5 points last year in weeks 10-16 when he admitted that the "light came on" and he started to run the way he should. Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick in the 2006 draft (Houston got paid off by the Save New Orleans/Paul Tag's Last Great Move Committee) and will only get more touches this year one would imagine.

Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick? I'm sure you're wholly qualified to make that claim, but I'd respectfully like to disagree. The Denver Broncos said he wasn't even the #1 RUNNINGBACK on their board (Maroney was). And Denver obviously preferred Cutler to Maroney (or else they would have taken Maroney when they had the chance), so that means, for Denver at least, there's no way Bush could have been ranked higher than #3 at the absolute best (assuming they didn't have Young and Leinart in front of Bush, too, at the very least). I suspect there were other teams that felt the same way. Just because the media was collectively fellating Bush like there was no tomorrow doesn't mean that all the teams felt the same way. That's already two teams that we know of that disagreed, who's to say that there weren't a half dozen more?

Q: how do you know when the broncs are lieing?A: when they say something

 

[SSOG]

Last year Westy averaged 22.2 PPG to Bush's 16.5, Deuce is still in NO, so I think Westy is the clear pick in PPR.

Addai may be the other guy people should be talking about here, though. He averaged 18.8 PPR PPG (compared to 14.2 PPG regular season) in the playoffs in a split role with Rhodes....

Bush averaged 22.5 points last year in weeks 10-16 when he admitted that the "light came on" and he started to run the way he should. Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick in the 2006 draft (Houston got paid off by the Save New Orleans/Paul Tag's Last Great Move Committee) and will only get more touches this year one would imagine.

Bush was a 31 team consensus #1 overall pick? I'm sure you're wholly qualified to make that claim, but I'd respectfully like to disagree. The Denver Broncos said he wasn't even the #1 RUNNINGBACK on their board (Maroney was). And Denver obviously preferred Cutler to Maroney (or else they would have taken Maroney when they had the chance), so that means, for Denver at least, there's no way Bush could have been ranked higher than #3 at the absolute best (assuming they didn't have Young and Leinart in front of Bush, too, at the very least). I suspect there were other teams that felt the same way. Just because the media was collectively fellating Bush like there was no tomorrow doesn't mean that all the teams felt the same way. That's already two teams that we know of that disagreed, who's to say that there weren't a half dozen more?

LQ: how do you know when the broncs are lieing?

A: when they say something

If you look at historical data, Denver is one of the more honest teams in the league, especially when it comes to post-draft analysis. Denver is the only team I know of where the GM actually goes back after the draft and discusses who his team was targeting, why they drafted who they drafted, and what they might have done if the draft had gone differently. Can you name another?Of course, if it makes you more comfortable, you could just ignore an overwhelming body of evidence and simply disregard everything Denver's organization says. That would certainly be the EASY thing to do. Wrong, but easy.

 

[JAMMIN]

To answer the actual post. Westbrook was the 4th highest scoring rb in me league last year so yes its a smart pick.

 

[YoUnG GuNz]

As an Eagles fan Westbrook is surely one of the most dangerous open field backs in the NFL. You truly have to watch him every week to understand how much of a nasty runner he is. He makes Corners and LBs look silly.