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Brouhaha at the dentist this morning over xrays (2 Viewers)

Speaking of upsell. I've been going to the same dentist for approx. 30 years. He had a dentist above him (shared office) that he recently went partners with. The visit before the last I went to the "new" dentist as she had an early appointment available. Cleaning done and the dentist comes in to go over everything. She starts telling me I should have my silver filing removed and redone, and another procedure to address a crack (I believe, can't remember exactly what it was). Tell me it's going to cost approx. $1k and when do I want to schedule. Tell them that's ok, i'll hold for now. The receptionist trys to schedule me for this work again when I'm setting up my next cleaning. Said no, she's says well I need to check with the dentist if that's ok. What? I leave, next appointment I go back to the original dentist for the cleaning. There is a note in my file about what the new dentist wanted to do. He tells me not needed, although trys to "cover" for her by saying some people like to have the silver removed, etc. It will suck when this guy retires because I'm not going back to her...

 
I have never heard of someone getting 20 before. I go for a cleaning 2x a year and every other time they do 4 bite wings and we are good. Don't think have had panoramic done in dozen years.
1) again, most decent offices have a pano machine.. so no need for the 20
Question: how does the radiation exposure by panoramic x-ray compare to the exposure to the 20 individual pictures?
Digital? Comparable. Both are microscopic.

 
Speaking of upsell. I've been going to the same dentist for approx. 30 years. He had a dentist above him (shared office) that he recently went partners with. The visit before the last I went to the "new" dentist as she had an early appointment available. Cleaning done and the dentist comes in to go over everything. She starts telling me I should have my silver filing removed and redone, and another procedure to address a crack (I believe, can't remember exactly what it was). Tell me it's going to cost approx. $1k and when do I want to schedule. Tell them that's ok, i'll hold for now. The receptionist trys to schedule me for this work again when I'm setting up my next cleaning. Said no, she's says well I need to check with the dentist if that's ok. What? I leave, next appointment I go back to the original dentist for the cleaning. There is a note in my file about what the new dentist wanted to do. He tells me not needed, although trys to "cover" for her by saying some people like to have the silver removed, etc. It will suck when this guy retires because I'm not going back to her...
Yup, I've learned with time that in lieu of pain you need to show photos of what you are trying to recommend and soft sell it to have a chance.

 
Dentist is the only profession lawyers can look down on. Captured clients, forced upsell. Are you aware we don't need to use metal instruments that are painful and barbaric? No? Good, we don't like to tell you pressurized water works just as well.

 
Dentist is the only profession lawyers can look down on. Captured clients, forced upsell. Are you aware we don't need to use metal instruments that are painful and barbaric? No? Good, we don't like to tell you pressurized water works just as well.
Good luck

 
Dentist is the only profession lawyers can look down on. Captured clients, forced upsell. Are you aware we don't need to use metal instruments that are painful and barbaric? No? Good, we don't like to tell you pressurized water works just as well.
shtick?

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
I think 18-20 is the typical number for a full mouth series.

People seem to be getting way too hung up on the number of x-rays here, I guess because it just sounds scary. But with the actual amount of exposure that comes from it, if you're too concerned to risk it, then you probably shouldn't walk around and even sleep without a shield all of the time, and you certainly shouldn't be doing anything crazy like going up in an airplane.

 
Dentist is the only profession lawyers can look down on. Captured clients, forced upsell. Are you aware we don't need to use metal instruments that are painful and barbaric? No? Good, we don't like to tell you pressurized water works just as well.
shtick?
No. Just some dentists break the code. Insurance scamming is typical. Nobody needs 20 x-rays. Liability for dental malpractice? Go look at real numbers. And yes, you can get your teeth cleaned with water instead of scraping teeth.

 
Dentist is the only profession lawyers can look down on. Captured clients, forced upsell. Are you aware we don't need to use metal instruments that are painful and barbaric? No? Good, we don't like to tell you pressurized water works just as well.
shtick?
No. Just some dentists break the code. Insurance scamming is typical. Nobody needs 20 x-rays. Liability for dental malpractice? Go look at real numbers. And yes, you can get your teeth cleaned with water instead of scraping teeth.
Yeah but a pressure washer is hard on the gums.
 
I have never heard of someone getting 20 before. I go for a cleaning 2x a year and every other time they do 4 bite wings and we are good. Don't think have had panoramic done in dozen years.
1) again, most decent offices have a pano machine.. so no need for the 20
Question: how does the radiation exposure by panoramic x-ray compare to the exposure to the 20 individual pictures?
It's about the same as eating 40 bananas, right?

 
Dentist is the only profession lawyers can look down on. Captured clients, forced upsell. Are you aware we don't need to use metal instruments that are painful and barbaric? No? Good, we don't like to tell you pressurized water works just as well.
shtick?
No. Just some dentists break the code. Insurance scamming is typical. Nobody needs 20 x-rays. Liability for dental malpractice? Go look at real numbers. And yes, you can get your teeth cleaned with water instead of scraping teeth.
Yeah but a pressure washer is hard on the gums.
not harder than a pointy metal stick that rips the flesh.

it's just quicker (less profit) and harder to clean up (less profit)

 
I hate dentists. It all seems so ancient. When I go to my eye doctor it's like futuristic science fiction with all the modern gadgets they have. But my dentist is still in the dark ages. I go 3 times a year and every single time they say they need to do x-rays and I simply say no I'm just here for a cleaning, and that's it.

 
As mentioned, find another dentist. There are plenty of them out there. I've had all kinds of xrays and scans done on me since June. I went to the dentist twice in one month for broken teeth. They had no problem respecting my wishes of no xrays. .

 
I hate dentists. It all seems so ancient. When I go to my eye doctor it's like futuristic science fiction with all the modern gadgets they have. But my dentist is still in the dark ages. I go 3 times a year and every single time they say they need to do x-rays and I simply say no I'm just here for a cleaning, and that's it.
That's what I tried to do and that really was it. I can't believe they wouldn't clean my teeth without getting 20 x-rays. The more I think about it the bizarre it gets. It doesn't even matter what my reasons were. I didn't want to get x-rays today. I just wanted a cleaning.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
They used the word virus??? Viruses don't show up on xrays.. Cavities yes, and that's the reason for annual xrays- to catch cavities that may be hidden from view.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
They used the word virus??? Viruses don't show up on xrays.. Cavities yes, and that's the reason for annual xrays- to catch cavities that may be hidden from view.
Yes, virus is the word the assistant used.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
Just find another. It may take 2 or 3 because the party line is doing unnecessary extras to justify your visit. The justification about standard of care and liability is BS. Dentists rarely get sued for malpractice because there's no money in it.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
They used the word virus??? Viruses don't show up on xrays.. Cavities yes, and that's the reason for annual xrays- to catch cavities that may be hidden from view.
Yes, virus is the word the assistant used.
Oh my. That would send me running alone, let alone I need 20 xrays to get my teeth cleaned. I would go to yelp and write a 'nice' review on that place..

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
Just find another. It may take 2 or 3 because the party line is doing unnecessary extras to justify your visit. The justification about standard of care and liability is BS. Dentists rarely get sued for malpractice because there's no money in it.
I already made an appointment with my old dentist. He's great but out of network. For sure won't make me do anything I don't want to do. Has always said will only do work that is absolutely necessary. Wish I never left and just sucked up the cost.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
They used the word virus??? Viruses don't show up on xrays.. Cavities yes, and that's the reason for annual xrays- to catch cavities that may be hidden from view.
Yes, virus is the word the assistant used.
Oh my. That would send me running alone, let alone I need 20 xrays to get my teeth cleaned. I would go to yelp and write a 'nice' review on that place..
I've never written one. Thought about it but not really my style. I'll just take my business elsewhere. Good riddance.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
Just find another. It may take 2 or 3 because the party line is doing unnecessary extras to justify your visit. The justification about standard of care and liability is BS. Dentists rarely get sued for malpractice because there's no money in it.
I already made an appointment with my old dentist. He's great but out of network. For sure won't make me do anything I don't want to do. Has always said will only do work that is absolutely necessary. Wish I never left and just sucked up the cost.
This is also why dental insurance is expensive and crappy. It's a whole industry built around defrauding consumers and insurers.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
They used the word virus??? Viruses don't show up on xrays.. Cavities yes, and that's the reason for annual xrays- to catch cavities that may be hidden from view.
Yes, virus is the word the assistant used.
Oh my. That would send me running alone, let alone I need 20 xrays to get my teeth cleaned. I would go to yelp and write a 'nice' review on that place..
Say he kills lions

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
They used the word virus??? Viruses don't show up on xrays.. Cavities yes, and that's the reason for annual xrays- to catch cavities that may be hidden from view.
Yes, virus is the word the assistant used.
Oh my. That would send me running alone, let alone I need 20 xrays to get my teeth cleaned. I would go to yelp and write a 'nice' review on that place..
I've never written one. Thought about it but not really my style. I'll just take my business elsewhere. Good riddance.
Actually you should. Many folks look for reviews on docs and you'd be saving them from going through your ridiculousness. You would hope too that no one believes you need xrays to get your teeth cleaned..

 
Honestly, i have switched dentist over this same issue. Find another dentist that cares about your wishes.
it's no about caring about your wishes.

no one or even a few dozen patients are worth the medico-legal risk of accepting a patient who won't allow us to practice to the standard of care.
Your liability laws are ridiculous and limiting personal freedom

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
Just find another. It may take 2 or 3 because the party line is doing unnecessary extras to justify your visit. The justification about standard of care and liability is BS. Dentists rarely get sued for malpractice because there's no money in it.
Oh ok, sweet, now I can just drop my malpractice coverage

 
This number 20 is the only shock value thing in this thread. Yet if you went to any dental school, this is exactly the survey you'd get. Google full mouth series.

Again, 95 percent of dentists take 5. 4bw and a pano.

 
Pretty sure 20 is an exaggeration here, right?
The exact number was 20 or 24.
Annual xrays are like 4 shots to get the front and backside of all your teeth. I can't imagine what 20-24 means. ? I'd be curious and ask them wtf?
I did. I was told that was the number they needed to see if there were viruses in there.
Just find another. It may take 2 or 3 because the party line is doing unnecessary extras to justify your visit. The justification about standard of care and liability is BS. Dentists rarely get sued for malpractice because there's no money in it.
I already made an appointment with my old dentist. He's great but out of network. For sure won't make me do anything I don't want to do. Has always said will only do work that is absolutely necessary. Wish I never left and just sucked up the cost.
Problem solved then, right? Quit your #####ing

 
This number 20 is the only shock value thing in this thread. Yet if you went to any dental school, this is exactly the survey you'd get. Google full mouth series.

Again, 95 percent of dentists take 5. 4bw and a pano.
If you take a panoramic xray, then why do you still need the bitewings? Isn't that the reason that you take the panoramic xray, to get the entire mouth? Not trying to pile on the anti-dentite crowd here, just honestly curious?

And what percentage of dentists in general are doing the xrays to ensure standard of care vs the group who is doing it for the discovery of issues/upsell opportunity with the cleaning profitless customer? It has seemed that the business model is being pushed towards profit driving services over the last few years and the chains are certainly leading that pack.

 
This number 20 is the only shock value thing in this thread. Yet if you went to any dental school, this is exactly the survey you'd get. Google full mouth series.

Again, 95 percent of dentists take 5. 4bw and a pano.
If you take a panoramic xray, then why do you still need the bitewings? Isn't that the reason that you take the panoramic xray, to get the entire mouth? Not trying to pile on the anti-dentite crowd here, just honestly curious?

And what percentage of dentists in general are doing the xrays to ensure standard of care vs the group who is doing it for the discovery of issues/upsell opportunity with the cleaning profitless customer? It has seemed that the business model is being pushed towards profit driving services over the last few years and the chains are certainly leading that pack.
Great question. The panoramic x-ray gets all the teeth and roots in view. However, it is not diagnostically accurate for the in between teeth cavities due to angulation issues and not getting magnified enough on those back teeth in between the teeth.

50% of cavities are in between the teeth and are only picked up by a bitewing unless they are massive cavities.

In lieu of bitewings, you are only going to visually discover a cavity when it is too late to fill... by then it will need a crown or possibly a root canal and crown..

I can't answer the final question. When you are educated in school on the proper way to diagnose and treat people, it is very difficult after school to run into the buzzsaw that is the general public who have an entirely different idea of what is appropriate and reasonable.

The bottom line is that is impossible to read people's minds.

Obviously there are a lot of people in this thread concerned about upsells and over-radiation. But there are a lot of people on the other end of the spectrum that really want and value a through examination and would be very upset if I missed something that would have prevented them from having a tooth break (finding a cracked tooth that's apt to break but currently doesn't hurt) or finding a small cavitiy before it necessitated a root canal.

When someone walks in the door it's pretty hard to figure out which side of the coin they are on. It's better to default to doing things the way you were taught. The way scholarly articles suggest you should do them.

All I can do is diagnose what I see, attempt to photograph it and show people what's going on in their mouths.. and tell them about it. Some people view that as a cashgrab and an upsell.. even if I'm not really pushing any of it... and they leave and never come back. Others appreciate seeing what's going on, knowing their alternatives, and then choosing to pursue or not pursue treatment as they see fit.

But it's a really tough business.. which is one of many reasons why I'd like to get out of it ASAP... because it is very hard to give people the experience they want since they rarely tell you even if you ask them... what they really want.... and then is what they want even remotely compatible with standard of care? Tough.

 
I had an appointment for a cleaning this morning. When I showed up they made me fill out a two page medical form because I hadn't been in for a while. No problem. They take me back where we stop at the x-ray room. They tell me because it's been over a year I need to get 20 or so x-rays done to "make sure there are no viruses in the teeth and roots". I tell them my teeth feel fine, that I'm only there for a cleaning and that I'll begrudgingly do the minimum amount of x-rays but 20 or so isn't going to happen. I broke my elbow in April and have had a ton of x-rays this year already. The assistant goes out and talks to the dentist. She comes back and says the x-rays are a necessity. I ask if I can just have my scheduled cleaning done without getting x-rays today. She leaves again, comes back and says no. I shake my head, say thanks a lot and walk out.

Did I do anything wrong here? I made an appointment specifically for a cleaning, not a check-up, no x-rays. I've read that the effect of x-rays are cumulative over time and that the recommended amount of x-rays are "as few as possible". Shouldn't I have just been able to get my teeth cleaned without being forced to submit to 20 x-rays? I took time out of my day to go to the appointment, now I have to do it all over again at a new place. Can I use the steam coming out of my ears to clean my teeth?
They are really cracking down in the world of medical litigation on the issue of "standard of care" and it does not hold up in the court of law to allow a patient to select service that is below the standard of care.

Let's say for instance that you had an infection that you didn't know about. And let's say the really low odds type of thing happened that the infection got so bad you were sent to the hospital and spent several days in for an oral infection.

Now let's say you decided someone should be responsible for it. Well your attorney asks... have you been to the dentist recently? You say "yes" Well did they take the necessary x-rays? You say.. nope, I denied them. They say.. "hey, no problem.. it's ok as a patient you should not be allowed to choose something below the standard of care" And so you sue... and guess what... you'll win.

It doesn't even work if someone signs the paperwork saying they denied the x-rays. for my defense.

Regardless if your teeth "feel" fine there is still the chance out there for oral pathology in your bone, for dental decay to be lurking in between your teeth (that's what we look for in the bitewings), and infection.

We also look to "get rid of" patients who deny x-rays because the medic-legal risk is too high to treat them.

There's also no "cleaning only" package offered... I'd lose money on that. Without the built in price of at a minimum an exam... and some x-rays... there's no profit.. no one is going to do that.
I'm with Dentist on this one.

 
I wonder if all panoramic X-rays are created equal?

I've been going to an oral surgeon over the past 18 months (yep, Dentist ... making up for all those years of tooth neglect). The panoramic X-ray machine he uses not only yields the usual 32-teeth X-ray shot, but also a 3D image of my entire head and neck between by nose and chin. Looks a lot like, say, a 3D fetal ultrasound. He navigates through the 3D image in such a way that he can readily see between teeth. I don't know if the 3D imaging is part of an ordinary pano or not.

He took one such pano in April 2014, and another one yesterday. He took the time to go through the readily-visible and specific changes in my teeth and gums. I could see exactly what he was talking about, and learned enough from him to ask meaningful questions about trouble spots (e.g. the space between an "unerupted" wisdom tooth and the adjacent erupted molar clearly widened since the last pano, what did that mean? etc.).

BTW ... the pano at the oral surgeon makes two audible horizontal passes. It must also make a simultaneous vertical pass based on what it catches in the final image. Takes all of 15 seconds total -- much quicker than 20 X-rays.

 
This number 20 is the only shock value thing in this thread. Yet if you went to any dental school, this is exactly the survey you'd get. Google full mouth series.

Again, 95 percent of dentists take 5. 4bw and a pano.
If you take a panoramic xray, then why do you still need the bitewings? Isn't that the reason that you take the panoramic xray, to get the entire mouth? Not trying to pile on the anti-dentite crowd here, just honestly curious?

And what percentage of dentists in general are doing the xrays to ensure standard of care vs the group who is doing it for the discovery of issues/upsell opportunity with the cleaning profitless customer? It has seemed that the business model is being pushed towards profit driving services over the last few years and the chains are certainly leading that pack.
Great question. The panoramic x-ray gets all the teeth and roots in view. However, it is not diagnostically accurate for the in between teeth cavities due to angulation issues and not getting magnified enough on those back teeth in between the teeth.

50% of cavities are in between the teeth and are only picked up by a bitewing unless they are massive cavities.

In lieu of bitewings, you are only going to visually discover a cavity when it is too late to fill... by then it will need a crown or possibly a root canal and crown..

I can't answer the final question. When you are educated in school on the proper way to diagnose and treat people, it is very difficult after school to run into the buzzsaw that is the general public who have an entirely different idea of what is appropriate and reasonable.

The bottom line is that is impossible to read people's minds.

Obviously there are a lot of people in this thread concerned about upsells and over-radiation. But there are a lot of people on the other end of the spectrum that really want and value a through examination and would be very upset if I missed something that would have prevented them from having a tooth break (finding a cracked tooth that's apt to break but currently doesn't hurt) or finding a small cavitiy before it necessitated a root canal.

When someone walks in the door it's pretty hard to figure out which side of the coin they are on. It's better to default to doing things the way you were taught. The way scholarly articles suggest you should do them.

All I can do is diagnose what I see, attempt to photograph it and show people what's going on in their mouths.. and tell them about it. Some people view that as a cashgrab and an upsell.. even if I'm not really pushing any of it... and they leave and never come back. Others appreciate seeing what's going on, knowing their alternatives, and then choosing to pursue or not pursue treatment as they see fit.

But it's a really tough business.. which is one of many reasons why I'd like to get out of it ASAP... because it is very hard to give people the experience they want since they rarely tell you even if you ask them... what they really want.... and then is what they want even remotely compatible with standard of care? Tough.
Serious question:

Have you thought about incorporating exactly that kind of question for your patients so that you can tailor what you do and meet their expectations? Asking the question "what would make your visit perfect today?" could go a long way in building a rapport with patients and giving you that information so that you know to give more or give less information. When you have your initial intake forms, a few questions along those lines could give you valuable information that you can then note and use for subsequent visits. It wouldn't take much time and would take a lot of that guesswork out of it. I know exactly where you're coming from about patients often having completely different expectations and it's not that difficult to just ask. And that is often very much appreciated by people coming to see you that you seem to care about what they are looking for instead of a one size fits all. And, it might help you weed out patients that may not be a good fit for your office.

Just my $.02

 
No profit...The hygienist cleans my teeth, checks "pockets", flosses. The Dentist comes in for two minutes rubs my neck, has me say "ahh" and bite down. Not sure how much more profit they need out of 5 minutes of work more than the cleaning that is done by the one doing the labor of the "cleaning"??
Oh, so the hygienists around you are on a volunteer basis? That's pretty sweet.
Right.. so let's just use $75 as a baseline price for a cleaning with no x-rays or an exam.

The girl cleaning your teeth makes $35 an hour. So now we're down to $40. I've probably got $15 worth of sterilization supplies (gloves, mask, plastic wrap) Now we're down to $25... and i have to pay someone to answer the phone for you to make your calls, power for all the equipment and lights whilst you were there, taxes, etc.

I'm literally going to make nothing on your visit unless we have the other items built in.

So I'm going to make nothing on you and accept the risk of you choosing to walk in my office and have a procedure done below the standard of care? No thanks.
Your breakdown is valid, but $15 in supplies per patient? Bull####.
What do you think it is?

You think Sterilization is free? You think the paste you polish with is free, the plastic barrier protections are free?

I didn't even bother to amortize the depreciation on the equipment, the maintenance on the equipment, etc.

Regardless of how you felt about my off-the cuff quick breakdown of the cost of the procedure.... I guess the bottom line is that if you walk in and walk out of a dental office and had a hygienist working on you for 45 min to an hour and they didn't generate $100 or more, the dentist/business owner made as close to $0 on the appointment as is possible.

And most people probably would be happy about that... "dentists are too rich anyway... so I should be able to get out of there for $0 to those jerks!"

Whatever.
Everyone else thinks they deserve to be paid for their jobs, but when a health care professional expects to be paid for the work they do, it's eff you.

 
I wonder if all panoramic X-rays are created equal?

I've been going to an oral surgeon over the past 18 months (yep, Dentist ... making up for all those years of tooth neglect). The panoramic X-ray machine he uses not only yields the usual 32-teeth X-ray shot, but also a 3D image of my entire head and neck between by nose and chin. Looks a lot like, say, a 3D fetal ultrasound. He navigates through the 3D image in such a way that he can readily see between teeth. I don't know if the 3D imaging is part of an ordinary pano or not.

He took one such pano in April 2014, and another one yesterday. He took the time to go through the readily-visible and specific changes in my teeth and gums. I could see exactly what he was talking about, and learned enough from him to ask meaningful questions about trouble spots (e.g. the space between an "unerupted" wisdom tooth and the adjacent erupted molar clearly widened since the last pano, what did that mean? etc.).

BTW ... the pano at the oral surgeon makes two audible horizontal passes. It must also make a simultaneous vertical pass based on what it catches in the final image. Takes all of 15 seconds total -- much quicker than 20 X-rays.
no, they are not. The one you had taken was a CBCT cone beam... 3d imaging of the entire head. It's a very sophisticated image. for one.. the x-ray unit i have was 75 grand.. the one used on you was more like 350K.

2, the amount of radiation on a CBCT is WAY higher than even the vaunted "20 x-rays" or my 5 series.

I suspect CBCT will become a part of the regular dental office... but not until the price comes down.. it's currently the 4k TV by comparison to the 1080p of the digital pano machine.

With those I understand you may be able to diagnose interproximal decay... but I'm not 100% as I haven't even bothered to shop for one of those yet.

 

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