pantherclub
Footballguy
Maybe but I wouldn't bet either way at this point. Brown had some amazing runs and really good overall games as a rookie. Jackson has had one good year to go with a lot of mediocre ones and injury filled ones.
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matttyl
Footballguy
I saw the news of the "extension", but what guaranteed money is there (both this year and next)? Did this free up any money for Buffalo this season? I'm a huge F Jax fan, and saying this as a guy who has Spiller - but did Buffalo just give him more money this year and the guarantee that he'll be on the team next year as well? Given his age, and I fully understand that he's the most complete RB on their roster, I'm not sure I get that.
matttyl
Footballguy
I can't agree with the bolded. He's had 4 seasons of 1,000+ yards from scrimmage. No one is calling him Adrian Peterson, but he's a very solid player. In fact last year he had just as many total TDs as he had in the previous two seasons combined (and only 1 less than the aforementioned Peterson and did so with three fewer fumbles).
Chaka
Footballguy
That makes absolutely no sense. What is the difference between that and paying him this year after he looked good last year? So you can pay him next year after he looks good this year?I don't think its that hard to follow. He's 33 now. If he looks good this year and they feel like they need him next year then sign/extend him then. Why extend him before this season? What do the Buffalo Bills gain by extending him right now? The market will not be hot for him next year so it's not like they are worried about having to compete and over pay to keep him.So you think they should have extended Jackson during next off season when he turns 34, if he produces this year, because extending him before this season makes no sense because he's 33 now and they don't know what they are going to get out of him?
You would make the exact same argument next year only you would say "He's 34 now" instead of "He's 33 now."
He did show them, he did look good and they felt like they needed to extend him now.
steveski
Footballguy
If he looks good this year then it's a wash whether you sign him this year or next year.That makes absolutely no sense. What is the difference between that and paying him this year after he looked good last year? So you can pay him next year after he looks good this year?I don't think its that hard to follow. He's 33 now. If he looks good this year and they feel like they need him next year then sign/extend him then. Why extend him before this season? What do the Buffalo Bills gain by extending him right now? The market will not be hot for him next year so it's not like they are worried about having to compete and over pay to keep him.So you think they should have extended Jackson during next off season when he turns 34, if he produces this year, because extending him before this season makes no sense because he's 33 now and they don't know what they are going to get out of him?
You would make the exact same argument next year only you would say "He's 34 now" instead of "He's 33 now."
He did show them, he did look good and they felt like they needed to extend him now.
If he looks bad this year then you don't have to sign him.
You win nothing by signing him now and you only risk losing. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Oh, ok. I see your point. I guess, as a Bills fan, I was never expecting him to leave, regardless of current (past) contract situation.
Chaka
Footballguy
I agree that health is a concern but Jackson has been far better than mediocre. He has put up great numbers in a time share situation.
And Brown has lost yardage on 18% of his career carries (worst in the league) while having those good games.
I am not saying Brown is bad but it seems pretty obvious that this season the plan is for him to be the #3 guy behind Jackson and Spiller. I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise (or at least make that argument using logic rather than hope) I also agree with many in here that 2015 Brown's value is likely for 2015.
matttyl
Footballguy
You get your possible starting RB with a proven history in your system/organization for $2.6M. That's about $1m less than other veteran RBs received on similar short term deals, most of which were with new teams where they are unproven.If he looks good this year then it's a wash whether you sign him this year or next year.That makes absolutely no sense. What is the difference between that and paying him this year after he looked good last year? So you can pay him next year after he looks good this year?I don't think its that hard to follow. He's 33 now. If he looks good this year and they feel like they need him next year then sign/extend him then. Why extend him before this season? What do the Buffalo Bills gain by extending him right now? The market will not be hot for him next year so it's not like they are worried about having to compete and over pay to keep him.So you think they should have extended Jackson during next off season when he turns 34, if he produces this year, because extending him before this season makes no sense because he's 33 now and they don't know what they are going to get out of him?
You would make the exact same argument next year only you would say "He's 34 now" instead of "He's 33 now."
He did show them, he did look good and they felt like they needed to extend him now.
If he looks bad this year then you don't have to sign him.
You win nothing by signing him now and you only risk losing. I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
The part you're leaving out is that he's already under contract for this year. They're paying him right now for 2015, which is risky because we don't know what he's going to do in 2014. The equivalent argument would be if they were talking about an extension into 2016 next off season, not 2015.That makes absolutely no sense. What is the difference between that and paying him this year after he looked good last year? So you can pay him next year after he looks good this year?I don't think its that hard to follow. He's 33 now. If he looks good this year and they feel like they need him next year then sign/extend him then. Why extend him before this season? What do the Buffalo Bills gain by extending him right now? The market will not be hot for him next year so it's not like they are worried about having to compete and over pay to keep him.So you think they should have extended Jackson during next off season when he turns 34, if he produces this year, because extending him before this season makes no sense because he's 33 now and they don't know what they are going to get out of him?
You would make the exact same argument next year only you would say "He's 34 now" instead of "He's 33 now."
He did show them, he did look good and they felt like they needed to extend him now.
That being said, it isn't a ton of money we're talking about, and even if he slows down it's probably worth it from a locker room perspective. It also comes down to the guaranteed money, and I haven't seen that listed anywhere- this may all be moot.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He's a team leader and it shows a loyalty from the team, that could help positively affect the attitude of the rest of the players on the team.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I like the idea of extending Jackson at a reasonable salary. He is a solid veteran on a young team. He has earned every cent he has been paid in the NFL and it's not a huge contract. There are very few teams running a single RB these days and Jackson seems to be a nice piece in a time share.
msommer
Footballguy
Well, if the Bills did not include any guaranteed money in 2015 they could save against the cap this year by converting his salary to a signing bonus (not much, less than a million since he's still have to make vets minimum) with no effect in 2015 other than the prorated cap hit.
Why would it make sense to borrow against next years cap?
1) if they are extending other players - this has been mentioned
2) to insure against Fred having a great year and being more expensive next year
3) to insure against Fred leaving for greener pastures next year regardless of the offer
It ain't much. As far as I can tell there isn't anything out on the values etc. so I can't come up with something more compelling than this
Why would it make sense to borrow against next years cap?
1) if they are extending other players - this has been mentioned
2) to insure against Fred having a great year and being more expensive next year
3) to insure against Fred leaving for greener pastures next year regardless of the offer
It ain't much. As far as I can tell there isn't anything out on the values etc. so I can't come up with something more compelling than this
steveski
Footballguy
If Graham was the oldest TE in the league then yes, I'd agree. Jackson is the oldest RB in the league.
I'm not sure why people are cherry picking around things here. Nobody in here is denying that Jackson isn't talented and what he did last year at the age of 32 is pretty incredible. But he is still mortal and expecting him to do the same at age 34 is pretty silly. Can anybody pull up anything about RB's aged 33 or older in the past? Have there been any RB's aged 34 in the league that have received significant carries?
I think people defending him in here are just thinking that people like me questioning this move is because we are worried about Bryce Brown's value. I'm not really that concerned. If Brown is any good, he'll get his carries this year or next since he's a decade younger than Jackson. I just don't understand from a team perspective how this makes sense when they could just wait and see? Is a 34 year old Fred Jackson really going to be a hot commodity next year if the Bills didn't extend him now?
Chaka
Footballguy
It is a poor comparison but the notion of extending a reliable veteran who is still producing at a high level at a reasonable price makes tons of sense for the Bills. He doesn't need to produce at his career best levels for this to be a good deal for the Bills.
matttyl
Footballguy
Remove the second sentence of my response and answer just the first one. Players all the time are paid for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do. Sure, F Jax is old for a RB, but I think last year may have been his most productive season in the NFL. It isn't huge money we're talking about here, and it may have helped them with their cap this year (and next year if they were going to keep him in 2015 anyway).
Poor isn't the word for it.It is a poor comparison but the notion of extending a reliable veteran who is still producing at a high level at a reasonable price makes tons of sense for the Bills. He doesn't need to produce at his career best levels for this to be a good deal for the Bills.
Like I said, it really isn't a big deal, but why do you think it makes a ton of sense? Do you think it's likely that they look back on this extension as a steal? Even if he does really well, he has $1 mil in incentives as well, so he won't come cheaply. I think best case scenario is that it's fair value, worst case is they just threw money away (again, it all depends on the guaranteed portion, and there may not be much if any).
Why didn't you remove that sentence since it's so ridiculous?Remove the second sentence of my response and answer just the first one. Players all the time are paid for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do. Sure, F Jax is old for a RB, but I think last year may have been his most productive season in the NFL. It isn't huge money we're talking about here, and it may have helped them with their cap this year (and next year if they were going to keep him in 2015 anyway).
Sure, players are paid all the time for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do, and it's risky. It's even more so in a case like this- he isn't just old for a RB, he's the oldest RB in the NFL, and he's missed almost half the season and ended up on IR in 2 out of the last 3 years.
I'm not saying it's a horrible move by any stretch, I've said it isn't a lot of money and it may be worth it simply from a locker room perspective, and it may all just be for show especially if there isn't much guaranteed money. I just think the timing was questionable and skews the risk towards the team.
matttyl
Footballguy
Given all the bad publicity many NFL players have received recently, I think it's a great show of goodwill (albeit not a very big one) from the organization to a player who keeps his head down and works hard without ever having his name in the news for the wrong reasons. Really I haven't heard anything, good or bad, about F Jax outside of football for his entire career. Has he ever complained about any contract issues? Ever?Why didn't you remove that sentence since it's so ridiculous?Remove the second sentence of my response and answer just the first one. Players all the time are paid for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do. Sure, F Jax is old for a RB, but I think last year may have been his most productive season in the NFL. It isn't huge money we're talking about here, and it may have helped them with their cap this year (and next year if they were going to keep him in 2015 anyway).
Sure, players are paid all the time for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do, and it's risky. It's even more so in a case like this- he isn't just old for a RB, he's the oldest RB in the NFL, and he's missed almost half the season and ended up on IR in 2 out of the last 3 years.
I'm not saying it's a horrible move by any stretch, I've said it isn't a lot of money and it may be worth it simply from a locker room perspective, and it may all just be for show especially if there isn't much guaranteed money. I just think the timing was questionable and skews the risk towards the team.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Here are the top 20 rushing seasons by running backs 34 or older:
Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Att Yds Y/A TD Y/G
1 John Riggins* 1983 34 1-6 WAS NFL 15 15 375 1347 3.59 24 89.8
2 John Riggins* 1984 35 1-6 WAS NFL 14 14 327 1239 3.79 14 88.5
3 John Henry Johnson* 1964 35 2-18 PIT NFL 14 0 235 1048 4.46 7 74.9
4 Emmitt Smith* 2004 35 1-17 ARI NFL 15 15 267 937 3.51 9 62.5
5 Marcus Allen* 1995 35 1-10 KAN NFL 16 15 207 890 4.30 5 55.6
6 Marcus Allen* 1996 36 1-10 KAN NFL 16 15 206 830 4.03 9 51.9
7 John Henry Johnson* 1963 34 2-18 PIT NFL 12 0 186 773 4.16 4 64.4
8 Marcus Allen* 1994 34 1-10 KAN NFL 13 13 189 709 3.75 7 54.5
9 Tony Dorsett* 1988 34 1-2 DEN NFL 16 13 181 703 3.88 5 43.9
10 John Riggins* 1985 36 1-6 WAS NFL 12 11 176 677 3.85 8 56.4
11 Joe Perry* 1961 34 BAL NFL 13 0 168 675 4.02 3 51.9
12 Earnest Byner 1996 34 10-280 BAL NFL 16 8 159 634 3.99 4 39.6
13 MacArthur Lane 1976 34 1-13 KAN NFL 14 14 162 542 3.35 5 38.7
14 Walter Payton* 1987 34 1-4 CHI NFL 12 12 146 533 3.65 4 44.4
15 Marcus Allen* 1997 37 1-10 KAN NFL 16 0 124 505 4.07 11 31.6
16 Ricky Williams 2011 34 1-5 BAL NFL 16 0 108 444 4.11 2 27.8
17 Dorsey Levens 2004 34 5-149 PHI NFL 15 5 94 410 4.36 4 27.3
18 Ollie Matson* 1964 34 1-3 PHI NFL 12 0 96 404 4.21 4 33.7
19 Joe Perry* 1962 35 BAL NFL 12 0 94 359 3.82 0 29.9
20 Rocky Bleier 1980 34 16-417 PIT NFL 16 6 78 340 4.36 1 21.3
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Only 2 backs in the past 10 years. I'll give FJax credit though, he looks like he is in great shape. One a first ballot HOF'er and the all time rushing leader and the other a guy who would/could be a HOF'er had he not lost significant time in his prime and guys I have used in my examples in the past. I have come down some off my initial BB high though as they gave Dixon the nod as #3, perhaps in motivation but happening none the less. I agree with others the contract doesn't make sense unless the FO views it as a compliment to FJax for what he's meant to Buffalo and before a new ownership group takes over and potentially blows up the structure at the top.
steveski
Footballguy
This is why I love this forum and most of the users here. Thanks for posting that. Like someone above said, it seems like kind of a long shot for a 34 year old to be productive, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Fred do it. He looked strong last year and expecting him to take a huge nose dive in a year or two would seem unlikely.
That being said, I stand by my point...why extend him now?
Unless it's because it's not guaranteed or it's to pay him respects for what he's done or something else that is "behind the scenes" that we don't know about, I just don't see how it makes sense for the Bills organization to extend him right now. It doesn't make sense from a football perspective.
Okay, but this is an entirely different argument than what you were making before. I agree that he's a good face of the organization.Given all the bad publicity many NFL players have received recently, I think it's a great show of goodwill (albeit not a very big one) from the organization to a player who keeps his head down and works hard without ever having his name in the news for the wrong reasons. Really I haven't heard anything, good or bad, about F Jax outside of football for his entire career. Has he ever complained about any contract issues? Ever?Why didn't you remove that sentence since it's so ridiculous?Remove the second sentence of my response and answer just the first one. Players all the time are paid for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do. Sure, F Jax is old for a RB, but I think last year may have been his most productive season in the NFL. It isn't huge money we're talking about here, and it may have helped them with their cap this year (and next year if they were going to keep him in 2015 anyway).
Sure, players are paid all the time for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do, and it's risky. It's even more so in a case like this- he isn't just old for a RB, he's the oldest RB in the NFL, and he's missed almost half the season and ended up on IR in 2 out of the last 3 years.
I'm not saying it's a horrible move by any stretch, I've said it isn't a lot of money and it may be worth it simply from a locker room perspective, and it may all just be for show especially if there isn't much guaranteed money. I just think the timing was questionable and skews the risk towards the team.
matttyl
Footballguy
What argument I was making before? I said he was worth it, I'm still saying that.Okay, but this is an entirely different argument than what you were making before. I agree that he's a good face of the organization.Given all the bad publicity many NFL players have received recently, I think it's a great show of goodwill (albeit not a very big one) from the organization to a player who keeps his head down and works hard without ever having his name in the news for the wrong reasons. Really I haven't heard anything, good or bad, about F Jax outside of football for his entire career. Has he ever complained about any contract issues? Ever?Why didn't you remove that sentence since it's so ridiculous?Remove the second sentence of my response and answer just the first one. Players all the time are paid for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do. Sure, F Jax is old for a RB, but I think last year may have been his most productive season in the NFL. It isn't huge money we're talking about here, and it may have helped them with their cap this year (and next year if they were going to keep him in 2015 anyway).
Sure, players are paid all the time for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do, and it's risky. It's even more so in a case like this- he isn't just old for a RB, he's the oldest RB in the NFL, and he's missed almost half the season and ended up on IR in 2 out of the last 3 years.
I'm not saying it's a horrible move by any stretch, I've said it isn't a lot of money and it may be worth it simply from a locker room perspective, and it may all just be for show especially if there isn't much guaranteed money. I just think the timing was questionable and skews the risk towards the team.
Catbird
Footballguy
So 1 guy in the last 18 years of the NFL had carried for over 450 yards in a season at age 34. One guy, once. And that was the all time yardage leader in the history of football. The odds of being the second guy are not very good. I think the extension was clearly a reward to FJax and maybe a way to say, 'We aren't fazing you out. As long as you are productive we want you to be a Bill.'
As it effects Brown, it might imply they aren't fully counting on him taking over, but all it really means, to me, is he still has to prove he deserves a role and that role will be whatever he earns. I don't think the team has committed to anything more than that, nor should they. If he isn't good (and depending on Spiller's year) they will get someone else in free agency or next year's draft. I think that is the entire plan. Whether you like Brown should depend on whether you like his talent. The opportunity is there and nothing is guaranteed.
You first made a ridiculous comparison to Jimmy Graham. Then you said people get paid based on past performance all the time and he played well last year, and maybe it helped their cap space. Then you said it's a goodwill move. Every time I reply to your posts, you ignore it and come up with a different argument- let's just move on.What argument I was making before? I said he was worth it, I'm still saying that.Okay, but this is an entirely different argument than what you were making before. I agree that he's a good face of the organization.Given all the bad publicity many NFL players have received recently, I think it's a great show of goodwill (albeit not a very big one) from the organization to a player who keeps his head down and works hard without ever having his name in the news for the wrong reasons. Really I haven't heard anything, good or bad, about F Jax outside of football for his entire career. Has he ever complained about any contract issues? Ever?Why didn't you remove that sentence since it's so ridiculous?Remove the second sentence of my response and answer just the first one. Players all the time are paid for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do. Sure, F Jax is old for a RB, but I think last year may have been his most productive season in the NFL. It isn't huge money we're talking about here, and it may have helped them with their cap this year (and next year if they were going to keep him in 2015 anyway).
Sure, players are paid all the time for things they've already done without knowing what they are going to do, and it's risky. It's even more so in a case like this- he isn't just old for a RB, he's the oldest RB in the NFL, and he's missed almost half the season and ended up on IR in 2 out of the last 3 years.
I'm not saying it's a horrible move by any stretch, I've said it isn't a lot of money and it may be worth it simply from a locker room perspective, and it may all just be for show especially if there isn't much guaranteed money. I just think the timing was questionable and skews the risk towards the team.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I don't want to be one to doubt Jackson since he's always been one to surprise people, but the fact that he looked so strong last year, doesn't mean that he won't just fall apart this year. The call it "falling off a cliff" for a reason.
Obviously that list shows how rare it is for a back over 33 years old to contribute - his owners (and the Bills) will need to hope he has some John Riggins of Marcus Allen in him.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Who was also being force-fed the ball as more of a publicity stunt by what was then a pathetic organization that was only looking to bring fans into the stadium.
msommer
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
I own Bryce in a few places and I'm genuinely not bothered by Fred's extension, not in the least, if anything I view it as a positive for a few reasons. Spiller is another matter entirely, if he resigned I'm not sure I'd continue to roster Brown.
I do realize that two national beat writers both left Bills camp and mused on possiblity of them moving a RB. Peter King and La Confora. Likely nothing to see here but I can't help but wonder if they got some type of insider info into the Bills thinking that would cause them both to mention this after visits to Bills camp. Can't help but think if they move a back Spiller would far and away be the most logical candidate due to what he would net and fact he has one year left on his deal. Also keeping in mind what they gave for Watkins and need to recoup some picks. I don't predict this happens, due mainly to job security of Bills staff, but a possibility and a possibilitly I feel has a slightly stronger chance of happening with Fred's extension which is just one of many reasons I think his resigning is a positive.
The only negative I've had concerning Bryce the past few days was him showing up as #4 on the initial depth chart. That was a bummer. Not sure if it's because Dixon has looked solid or they want to keep Bryce grounded and make him earn it but that was a disapointment, especially after the early camp buzz from Brown.
I do realize that two national beat writers both left Bills camp and mused on possiblity of them moving a RB. Peter King and La Confora. Likely nothing to see here but I can't help but wonder if they got some type of insider info into the Bills thinking that would cause them both to mention this after visits to Bills camp. Can't help but think if they move a back Spiller would far and away be the most logical candidate due to what he would net and fact he has one year left on his deal. Also keeping in mind what they gave for Watkins and need to recoup some picks. I don't predict this happens, due mainly to job security of Bills staff, but a possibility and a possibilitly I feel has a slightly stronger chance of happening with Fred's extension which is just one of many reasons I think his resigning is a positive.
The only negative I've had concerning Bryce the past few days was him showing up as #4 on the initial depth chart. That was a bummer. Not sure if it's because Dixon has looked solid or they want to keep Bryce grounded and make him earn it but that was a disapointment, especially after the early camp buzz from Brown.
EastonBlues22
Footballguy
Fred Jackson's one-year, $2.6 million extension includes no guaranteed money.
In other words, there's no real risk for the Bills. It's a symbolic gesture for a team leader, and an affordable option if F-Jax turns in a strong 2014. Heading into his age-33 campaign, there's no guarantee Jackson is back in Buffalo for 2015.
Source: Adam Caplan on Twitter
Jul 31 - 5:03 PM
In other words, there's no real risk for the Bills. It's a symbolic gesture for a team leader, and an affordable option if F-Jax turns in a strong 2014. Heading into his age-33 campaign, there's no guarantee Jackson is back in Buffalo for 2015.
Source: Adam Caplan on Twitter
Jul 31 - 5:03 PM
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I was puzzled not just at extending Fred Jackson but the timing.
If the numbers indicate no guaranteed money and zero risk then it would appear to be basically meaningless since the Bills can cut him without any consequence.
Most would say that their isn't any difference other than adding one non-guaranteed year and I would agree but if they wind up wanting to keep F-Jax they now can't cut his salary so signing an extension makes sense on Jackson's part.
The caveat is if Fred slips in his play because now he has a contract so the Bills have no room to negotiate his salary downwards.
Seems they painted themselves into a corner. So I'm back to being puzzled.
Here is Fantasy Guru's take:
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FantasyGuru.com@Fantasy_Guru · Jul 30
I feel like we can place C.J. Spiller on another roster in 2015 with Fred Jackson signing 1-year extension thru 2015 and Bryce Brown added.
If the numbers indicate no guaranteed money and zero risk then it would appear to be basically meaningless since the Bills can cut him without any consequence.
Most would say that their isn't any difference other than adding one non-guaranteed year and I would agree but if they wind up wanting to keep F-Jax they now can't cut his salary so signing an extension makes sense on Jackson's part.
The caveat is if Fred slips in his play because now he has a contract so the Bills have no room to negotiate his salary downwards.
Seems they painted themselves into a corner. So I'm back to being puzzled.
Here is Fantasy Guru's take:
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FantasyGuru.com@Fantasy_Guru · Jul 30
I feel like we can place C.J. Spiller on another roster in 2015 with Fred Jackson signing 1-year extension thru 2015 and Bryce Brown added.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Brown still 4th at best on the depth chart.
Spiller got one carry, followed by a few from Jackson. Since then it's all Dixon.
Spiller got one carry, followed by a few from Jackson. Since then it's all Dixon.
Lol @ at best.
And since then, it's been all Brown, who has looked very good (keeping in mind it's limited action in the 1st pre-season game).
EBF
Footballguy
When I saw that Dixon was getting heavy reps ahead of him, I just hoped that he would do well when he inevitably got his chance. He has looked pretty good. We already knew he could get to the edge, but apparently the Giants forgot about that. I want to see him used on more inside runs. He did have one pretty decent run where he started towards the outside and eventually made a cut back towards the inside to take a modest gain. That's good to see from him because his reputation is that he always tries to bounce everything outside. Probably a function of his inexperience, as he has hardly any carries in his NCAA+NFL career compared to most guys his age.
Chaka
Footballguy
steveski
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
If he plays well then they don't have to worry about losing him next year and it's still a relatively cheap contract for a veteran player.
Interesting stats about Fred Jackson:
Jackson has the 18th most rushing yards after age 28. He needs less than 1100 more yards to pass Fred Taylor to have the 7th most.
Of the RB's with more yards, only Barber, Holmes, Taylor, and Sanders have a higher YPC than Jackson's 4.47.
steveski
Footballguy
11 for 64 rushing and 2 for 18 receiving. Didn't catch the game, did he look as good as his stats or was it against the 3rd stringers?
From his stats, it looks like he was a lot more effective than Dixon with his carries but I know that doesn't mean much on such a small sample size and when it's just the preseason.
From his stats, it looks like he was a lot more effective than Dixon with his carries but I know that doesn't mean much on such a small sample size and when it's just the preseason.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Spiller/Jackson rotated for about 1.5 quarters. Then Brown came in for the Spiller role, and Dixon played the Jackson role.
