The Duff Man
Footballguy
Agree. Need to call a pass play and leave him open to running if the WRs are covered
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Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots Week 16 (5 Viewers)
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Just saying now that IF the Bills score, I want them to go for two.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Ugly playcall there Daboll. Just throw the freaking ball. Beasley, Knox or Kroft needs to be the play here. Or Singletary out of the backfield.
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The Duff Man
Footballguy
Had him
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I like Allen. Wish he didn’t take so many sacks :(
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Allen is a good football player but not a very good QB.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Only 4 guys rushing and they give up a sack. And then 2 guys get free on 4th down. Just a terrible terrible terrible job protecting Allen.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Just like the Ravens game.
Taking the two best teams in the conference to the wire in a rebuilding year, I'm alright with it. Future is bright, Bills fans.
Taking the two best teams in the conference to the wire in a rebuilding year, I'm alright with it. Future is bright, Bills fans.
Nipsey
Footballguy
IheartGuinness
Footballguy
Trying to decide between him and Murray in my keeper league. We'll see what the off-season brings, I suppose.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
That was a very disappointing final series, but let's see how this goes next year.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Yeah, that's what drove me crazy on that one. You know it's coming, yet they were so unprepared for extra pressure.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
That’s just bull crap. The Pats have made all sorts of QBs look terrible. Allen isn’t there yet, but he was raw when he came in and has made a ton of strides since then.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yup. That was all on Daboll. A quick slant to the middle of the field from Knox or Beasley would have been a walk in touchdown. Calling 5 step drop plays in those circumstances was foolish.
And Allen should never have been in that situation. The defense let them down. Everyone knew that you had to account for Edelman and Burkhead/White and those guys killed them.
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themeistersinger
Footballguy
Gotta hang this one on the defense. No excuse giving up 24 points to this Pats offense, especially with no giveaways by the Bills offense.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
His accuracy is just terrible. I like him and I like watching him play. He’s a good leader for the Bills and he can win games but sorry he can’t miss wide open guys consistently like he does. The Pats weren’t the issue here it was Josh.
Bills defense was exposed in this one. They were simply out coached on that side of the ball and also they tackled very poorly. Running game and screen plays killed the Bills all day long and they never adjusted. Offense actually kept them in it.
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Agreed. He did a heck of a job driving them down against the #1 D on road. The throw on the run to Beasley is like Rodgers - elite. But also a killer that he can't drop in the TD to Knox. I'm not suggesting KGUN here, but based on way Allen plays in 4th and on late drives that maybe they start including more of that early in game.
HobbesAB
Footballguy
Allen looked about as good as I expected. He's putting it together. Haven't watched many Bills games this year but he looks much improved.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Its a question of degree. Allen put in an excellent performance against a top tier defense. The TD pass to Knox was epic.
He occasionally misses an open man, but to besmirch his overall talent level and contribution to the Bills because he's not Top 3 yet is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Believe in this guy...he has demonstrated that he keeps getting better and better.
The_Man
Footballguy
Nice to see an AFC East team go into Foxboro in December and play like they intended to win. Feel like maybe that’s the first time since the Rex Ryan Jets
Bills are building something. As an outsider I would make O line the priority this offseason
Also, why Pittsburgh didn’t blitz on every key down like Baltimore and New England did remains a mystery to me.
Bills are building something. As an outsider I would make O line the priority this offseason
Also, why Pittsburgh didn’t blitz on every key down like Baltimore and New England did remains a mystery to me.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
O-line is definitely an area where the Bills can continue to improve. Last year's line was horrifically bad -- we replaced four out of our five starters in the offseason (Dawkins is the only carryover, and he's legit good). That got our line up to average, but it's still not where it needs to be. I see Quentin Spain as a one-year stop-gap. Cody Ford is playing out of position at RT. He needs to replace Spain at G where I think he can excel, and we need to find a real RT.
As a fan, I think our highest offseason priority is still WR. Allen is the sort of QB who would benefit tremendously from having a big-bodied WR who can make contested catches. We don't have that guy on our roster on right now. Right now we have a massive hole in our line-up across from John Brown. This offense could take a huge step forward next year if Allen continues to improve and we get a legit threat to line up opposite Brown, with Beasley in the slot.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I agree with all of this. Cody Ford has been a huge liability from the beginning. That’s not really his fault, that’s Buffalo’s for forcing the issue at RT and not having a better option when Nsehke got hurt. But Ford will be great inside where his slow feet won’t be nearly as big of an issue and his size and strength will be huge assets. Morse getting hurt yesterday made a difference too. The O-line wasn’t as good after he got hurt.
And agreed on the receiver. Brown and Beasley have been huge upgrades over what they had last year. And I’m ok even calling Brown a #1b type receiver, but the Bills need a big strong fast WR that can beat jams and come down with contested balls. Brown and Beasley are just too short. I know that the Bills media guys and big Twitter guys like to mock Bills fans for clamoring for Duke Williams, but Duke provided an element that the Bills just don’t have out there otherwise. I don’t know if he ultimately would have been helpful, but the Bills clearly had some struggles when they got down in the 8-15 yard range because their receivers just don’t have the size to wall off defenders or make contested catches. Though some of those struggles are Daboll’s fault for not scheming to use his receivers like the Patriots do down there and hit instant hot slants to Beasley like the Pats have to Edelman. Gotta use the assets you have when you don’t have the assets you need.
Lastly, the Bills simply have to get better against the run. The heavy run game has gashed them all year. Part of that has been because the DTs haven’t been disruptive enough on run plays, part of it is because Trent Murphy has played poorly (and been given too many snaps in far too many games), and part of it has been Edmunds and Milano simply not getting off of blocks like they need to and/or not making tackles.
Lastly, I think the Bills coaches have done a great job of coaching players up and mostly done a great job game planning, but they do need to improve on game planning on both sides of the ball. It seemed incredibly obvious that the Patriots would try to take away Singletary on early downs and blitz the crap out of Allen on late downs on longer distances. And yet Buffalo continually ran inside with Singletary on first downs and seemed to call pass plays that were way too long developing on later downs. Rather than counter what the Pats would load up against, Buffalo seemed to take it as a challenge and tried to force the issue. And on defense it seemed obvious that the Pats would run with heavy formations, toss a few RB screens to White/Burkhead and look to Edelman on 3rd downs. And yet doing those exact things worked and Buffalo rarely had answers. They didn’t even match up White onto Edelman until the 4th quarter when it was clear that Johnson couldn’t cover Edelman 1 on 1. Were they seriously that worried that Harry would beat them deep with Brady’s noodle arm? And how do you not run blitz when Michel is in the game and spy Burkhead/White when they are in the game? This was elementary stuff that multiple writers predicted and the Bills didn’t look prepared for any of it. Don’t get me wrong, I think the Bills coaching staff has done an amazing job and want them all to stick around, but they do need to be better as well.
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