It's going to be hard to compare what he gets in this free agency with contracts from prior years; because of the huge inflation we're seeing this offseason.I'm assuming they felt he was a much cheaper alternative then to try and get into the Lance Briggs sweepstakes. Any ideas of what he should expect salary wise? Any Giants fans care to help me get excited? about football.....lol
If he signed this quickly, my Bills probably overpaid him.It's going to be hard to compare what he gets in this free agency with contracts from prior years; because of the huge inflation we're seeing this offseason.I'm assuming they felt he was a much cheaper alternative then to try and get into the Lance Briggs sweepstakes. Any ideas of what he should expect salary wise? Any Giants fans care to help me get excited? about football.....lol
LOL, so true, so true. Kinda reminds me of the Jeff Posey signing a few years back.\ TD called him at 12:01.If he signed this quickly, my Bills probably overpaid him.It's going to be hard to compare what he gets in this free agency with contracts from prior years; because of the huge inflation we're seeing this offseason.I'm assuming they felt he was a much cheaper alternative then to try and get into the Lance Briggs sweepstakes. Any ideas of what he should expect salary wise? Any Giants fans care to help me get excited? about football.....lol
I'm sure our collective jaws will hit the floor when his contract numbers come out, but with so many teams so far under the cap, most of the contracts we're going to be seeing will be ridiculous. Unfortunately, "overpaying" is "fair market value" this year.If he signed this quickly, my Bills probably overpaid him.
I would be careful touting "brings a SB ring" as an asset. The league has a long history of overpaying marginal contributors from the reigning Super Bowl champs.Lance Briggs is going to get HUGE money. Assuming Mitchell was had for quite a bit less, I think this is a great signing as it strengthens the Bills defense, brings a veteren into the locker room, brings a SB ring to Buffalo and allows a little more money to be used on other needs (ie TE, WR).
If you notice the beginning of that sentence, it said the positives were assuming Mitchell was had for quite a bit less than Briggs gets. Experience is experience and even role player's experience is good. Besides whether or not they overpay for it, experience is still a good asset.I would be careful touting "brings a SB ring" as an asset. The league has a long history of overpaying marginal contributors from the reigning Super Bowl champs.Lance Briggs is going to get HUGE money. Assuming Mitchell was had for quite a bit less, I think this is a great signing as it strengthens the Bills defense, brings a veteren into the locker room, brings a SB ring to Buffalo and allows a little more money to be used on other needs (ie TE, WR).
Agreed. Smart signing imo. They can afford to add several more pieces at prices like that.
Wow, that's a total steal in today's market IMO. I was concerned that they were going to pay him like a star. They don't need him to be a star at all, they just need a solid LB to go play the Strong side. Crowell can get moved back to WLB now and Poz will be back and manning MLB. Dig and Ellison didn't quite cut it as starters but make excellent depth. Now if they can just get a nice run stuffing DT I'd be pretty happy already. With Ko Simpson coming back this year at safety and getting some CBs healthier, the defense should be a lot better as long as they get that big DT up front.
Yeah it's almost worth paying this soley to get Crowell back to the weak side.GroveDiesel said:Wow, that's a total steal in today's market IMO. I was concerned that they were going to pay him like a star. They don't need him to be a star at all, they just need a solid LB to go play the Strong side. Crowell can get moved back to WLB now and Poz will be back and manning MLB. Dig and Ellison didn't quite cut it as starters but make excellent depth.IvanKaramazov said:
A bargain? $5mm per season for a fringe NFL starter? Seriously? Wow...talk about rose colored glasses.IvanKaramazov said:
GroveDiesel said:Wow, that's a total steal in today's market IMO. I was concerned that they were going to pay him like a star. They don't need him to be a star at all, they just need a solid LB to go play the Strong side. Crowell can get moved back to WLB now and Poz will be back and manning MLB. Dig and Ellison didn't quite cut it as starters but make excellent depth. Now if they can just get a nice run stuffing DT I'd be pretty happy already. With Ko Simpson coming back this year at safety and getting some CBs healthier, the defense should be a lot better as long as they get that big DT up front.IvanKaramazov said:
IMO, the two biggest offseason needs still are a big DT and #2 WR. A pass catching TE would be nice too, but it's not as urgent to me as it is to others. If the Bills could get that #2 WR in free agency, could it open the door to the Bills trading up to get Ellis or Dorsey? That would be pretty awesome.
IvanKaramazov said:17.5/5 = $3.5 millionA bargain? $5mm per season for a fringe NFL starter? Seriously? Wow...talk about rose colored glasses.IvanKaramazov said:
Mitchel is one of those guys that gives me pause. Was really a non factor in the league until the 2nd half of last season. Not sure another change of scenery and bigger expectations are a recipe for success for that guy.
Fringe NFL starter? 2 sacks and a fumble recovery for a td in the post season too was a big part of the Giants, while he may not be great, I think he is a very rock solid starter to pair with Crowell and Poz. And at 5/17.5 it makes it all the better. Stroud is in for an interview which makes me wonder is a deal already in place? and he's here for a physical?IvanKaramazov said:17.5/5 = $3.5 millionA bargain? $5mm per season for a fringe NFL starter? Seriously? Wow...talk about rose colored glasses.IvanKaramazov said:Too much airplane glue this morningSolid signing for the Bills
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Stroud would be an incredibile addition, assuming full health. The man is a monster.Stroud is in for an interview which makes me wonder is a deal already in place? and he's here for a physical?
I'm not much for post season wonder boys, but Mitchell had 85 tackles and 4.5 sacks last year during the regular season. That's not too bad. Of course, there will be a question as to whether those numbers were inflated because the fantastic defensive line made life easier for the LBers, but it's not a bad deal for him at all.Mitchel is one of those guys that gives me pause. Was really a non factor in the league until the 2nd half of last season. Not sure another change of scenery and bigger expectations are a recipe for success for that guy.Fringe NFL starter? 2 sacks and a fumble recovery for a td in the post season too was a big part of the Giants, while he may not be great, I think he is a very rock solid starter to pair with Crowell and Poz. And at 5/17.5 it makes it all the better. Stroud is in for an interview which makes me wonder is a deal already in place? and he's here for a physical?IvanKaramazov said:17.5/5 = $3.5 millionA bargain? $5mm per season for a fringe NFL starter? Seriously? Wow...talk about rose colored glasses.IvanKaramazov said:Too much airplane glue this morningSolid signing for the Bills
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Mitchel is one of those guys that gives me pause. Was really a non factor in the league until the 2nd half of last season. Not sure another change of scenery and bigger expectations are a recipe for success for that guy.
Jason, Marcus Stroud is still on the Jags and is allowed to work out a trade. He is in Buffalo now. Is he allowed to meet with teams in person? Or does this maybe mean he is taking a physical meaning a deal has been in place? He's been here for the past 3 hours according to someone inside the building.IvanKaramazov said:17.5/5 = $3.5 millionA bargain? $5mm per season for a fringe NFL starter? Seriously? Wow...talk about rose colored glasses.IvanKaramazov said:Too much airplane glue this morningSolid signing for the Bills
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Wait, an interview with team officials or the Buffalo media?And I'm not sure what I would be willing to give up for him. I hope we don't have to trade our 2nd rounder.Stroud would be an incredibile addition, assuming full health. The man is a monster.Stroud is in for an interview which makes me wonder is a deal already in place? and he's here for a physical?
He had 2 100+ tackle seasons with the KC defense, so he can get it done regardless of surrounding cast.I don't expect him to be a superstar, or even a star, but he can definitely be a good player for the Bills. And this is definitely not a bad deal for that type of player.I'm not much for post season wonder boys, but Mitchell had 85 tackles and 4.5 sacks last year during the regular season. That's not too bad. Of course, there will be a question as to whether those numbers were inflated because the fantastic defensive line made life easier for the LBers, but it's not a bad deal for him at all.
I'd give up a 3rd for Stroud anyday.