Buy low, sell high, buy high, sell low (1 Viewer)

[Banger]

Torrey Smith - Sell High

Agree. I wish I never drafted this guy. Because of yesterdays performance on my bench, I'll be forced to start him next week where he will get 2 catches for 35 yards.

exactly what I said a week ago. he's the new Lee Evans.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Sell high: Andre Johnson

I've been debating this one. He still has all the ability but when a team can pound the ball like Houston, they just don't need him much. They've had 3 pretty easy matchups so far so it'll be interesting to see week 5-7 when they play some tougher teams @Jets, vs GB and vs BAL.

 

[Woogie Lee]

Torrey Smith - Sell High

Agree. I wish I never drafted this guy. Because of yesterdays performance on my bench, I'll be forced to start him next week where he will get 2 catches for 35 yards.

exactly what I said a week ago. he's the new Lee Evans.

Evans put up 1200+ yards and 8 TDs in his third year.

 

[Clifford]

I'm going to start shopping him now. Currently offering Sproles/Smith for Gore/Cruz. We'll see.

 

[Banger]

Torrey Smith - Sell High

Agree. I wish I never drafted this guy. Because of yesterdays performance on my bench, I'll be forced to start him next week where he will get 2 catches for 35 yards.

exactly what I said a week ago. he's the new Lee Evans.

Evans put up 1200+ yards and 8 TDs in his third year.

I know...he was the perenial tease. The point was that he was largely feast or famine due to his big play ability. You'd play him and get mediocre results, bench him and he'd blow up....2-19

8-107

7-92

9-91-1

8-82

1-10

2-58-1

5-70

11-265-2

5-58

5-45

3-67-1

2-91-1

3-67-1

5-64-1

7-145-1

Now this was his best year and was the next big thing the following season hype wise. The point is that I'm not sure if Smith is also a one trick pony like Evans was where he would get held in check and then explode. As a FF owner you are on a constant yo-yo and always one step behind as I'd imagine most guys probably had him in the lineup weeks 1 and 2 and likely benched him week 3 (happened in most of my leagues)...now next week he's definitely going back in the lineup and we'll see what he does then...

 

[sharptongued1]

I'm wondering about Charles after last week, HE had a good week 1 and then could not get anything going. Just offered Morris and Flacco for Charles and Peyton in a start 2QB league. Anyone else looking to buy low on Charles or is the situation too messy in KC? Who are the best RB targets right now? I want to move Morris but not sure who I should be targetting.Think Morris could get Mathews from a losing owner?

Just got Forte for Morris.

After getting Morris off the waiver wire post-Week 1, I flipped him straight-up for Mathews. That owner was 0-1 with a set of RBs that looked much, much worse after week 1 than it had post-draft. I had offered the person Kevin Smith for Mathews (rejected) before succeeding with the waiver claim.After the Week 2 performance and with Mathews' return imminent, I think the window may have closed. The kind of Morris and Mathews performances that would make the deal attractive for the Mathews owner after Week 3 would probably make you steer away from the deal too.

That's beyond brutal. What owner in their right mind would spend an early pick on Mathews knowing he was going to miss the first week or two, then sell short after one week?

I can envision plenty of scenarios. The most likely of possibilities is exactly what he described - his draft looks great before the games start. After week 1, the team suddenly looks like crap and you realize you may have missed on more than you could afford. In a tough league you can't afford to fall 0-2. Morris looks to be the weekly starter for a quality team and should be a solid source of points.

Again, this is just opinion, but I suppose I'd rather take the chance falling to 0-2 than give away Mathews for someone who's feasting on incredibly soft defenses the first part of the season. 0-2 looks a lot better than potentially dropping several games late in the season because you're getting little-to-no production out of Morris, while Mathews is churning out RB1 type numbers. In any case, ultimately it's all in how one projects these players going forward.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Sell high: Andre Johnson

Why?

 

[Lavachebeadsman]

The signs of Shanihanigans are starting. Pick up Royster or Helu, or both, if they are on your wire. They were both more involved than in weeks past. Also, if you are somehow able to buy low on Percy Harvin, do so. 3 weeks in a row of incredibly solid production. The touchdowns are coming.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The signs of Shanihanigans are starting. Pick up Royster or Helu, or both, if they are on your wire. They were both more involved than in weeks past. Also, if you are somehow able to buy low on Percy Harvin, do so. 3 weeks in a row of incredibly solid production. The touchdowns are coming.

If you look at the history of "Shanihanigans", he rides one running back until that player gets hurt or sucks beyond belief. Morris is healthy and playing well. I say he's STILL a buy low. Folks were knocking his value for mythological Shanahan reasons. Now they're knocking his value for different reasons. The only thing we need to know is he's getting lots of touches every week and also getting goal line carries. That has value in any format.

 

[Lavachebeadsman]

The signs of Shanihanigans are starting. Pick up Royster or Helu, or both, if they are on your wire. They were both more involved than in weeks past. Also, if you are somehow able to buy low on Percy Harvin, do so. 3 weeks in a row of incredibly solid production. The touchdowns are coming.

If you look at the history of "Shanihanigans", he rides one running back until that player gets hurt or sucks beyond belief. Morris is healthy and playing well. I say he's STILL a buy low. Folks were knocking his value for mythological Shanahan reasons. Now they're knocking his value for different reasons. The only thing we need to know is he's getting lots of touches every week and also getting goal line carries. That has value in any format.

That's all well and good. I'm just stating my personal opinion. I think if Morris slows down, which I think he will, Shanahan quickly pulls the trigger to put one of the other backs in. Just my two cents.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The signs of Shanihanigans are starting. Pick up Royster or Helu, or both, if they are on your wire. They were both more involved than in weeks past. Also, if you are somehow able to buy low on Percy Harvin, do so. 3 weeks in a row of incredibly solid production. The touchdowns are coming.

If you look at the history of "Shanihanigans", he rides one running back until that player gets hurt or sucks beyond belief. Morris is healthy and playing well. I say he's STILL a buy low. Folks were knocking his value for mythological Shanahan reasons. Now they're knocking his value for different reasons. The only thing we need to know is he's getting lots of touches every week and also getting goal line carries. That has value in any format.

That's all well and good. I'm just stating my personal opinion. I think if Morris slows down, which I think he will, Shanahan quickly pulls the trigger to put one of the other backs in. Just my two cents.

We should all regularly asses our personal opinions to see if they're based in facts or preconceived notions. A lot of folks are making up excuses on Morris in an attempt to have him meet their pre-season expectations. Also,

Evan Royster left the game in the second half with a knee injury and did not return. He did not speak to reporters. Roy Helu Jr. also did not speak to reporters, but was spotted walking slowly after getting his left foot examined by team doctors.

http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/redskins-talk/post/banged-up-skins?blockID=778083&feedID=6355People are really missing the boat on this kid.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Is welker a sell high? Buy low?

I'm not buying. I have no idea what to make of this situation and could be missing some great value. I'm skeptical he's going to be his usual studly self with all the weapons. Unless they start putting up major points as Yudkin hoped, somebody is taking a hit. I'd shop him if I had him but wouldn't give him away.

 

[az_prof]

Torrey Smith - Sell High

Agree. I wish I never drafted this guy. Because of yesterdays performance on my bench, I'll be forced to start him next week where he will get 2 catches for 35 yards.

exactly what I said a week ago. he's the new Lee Evans.

Evans put up 1200+ yards and 8 TDs in his third year.

I know...he was the perenial tease. The point was that he was largely feast or famine due to his big play ability. You'd play him and get mediocre results, bench him and he'd blow up....2-19

8-107

7-92

9-91-1

8-82

1-10

2-58-1

5-70

11-265-2

5-58

5-45

3-67-1

2-91-1

3-67-1

5-64-1

7-145-1

Now this was his best year and was the next big thing the following season hype wise. The point is that I'm not sure if Smith is also a one trick pony like Evans was where he would get held in check and then explode. As a FF owner you are on a constant yo-yo and always one step behind as I'd imagine most guys probably had him in the lineup weeks 1 and 2 and likely benched him week 3 (happened in most of my leagues)...now next week he's definitely going back in the lineup and we'll see what he does then...

One of the things that held Evans back was that he had a rotating list of some of the worst QBs during his prime. I think that Flacco is a better than average QB--not great--but better than average. So, I doubt that Torrey Smith will be as unpredictable as Evans was.

 

[Clifford]

The signs of Shanihanigans are starting. Pick up Royster or Helu, or both, if they are on your wire. They were both more involved than in weeks past. Also, if you are somehow able to buy low on Percy Harvin, do so. 3 weeks in a row of incredibly solid production. The touchdowns are coming.

Both left the game with injuries after barely being involved. Royster has a knee issue and Helu came away limping according to observers.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Sell high: Andre Johnson

Why?

Only 5 catches (8 targets) in the last two games. Houston is more run focused. AJ is 31. Still carries a big name but probably isn't going to be the same stud he was when he was getting 10+ targets a game. IMO, he is going to be around WR 10-15 this year but right now you could still get top 5 WR value for him in a trade.

 

[Banger]

thinking of buying low on McCoy.

 

[Clifford]

Not seeing much reason to sell low on McCoy...he's performed well even when the team threw up a giant turd. HE's stitting between AP and Murray in my league.

 

[Quibbler]

Not really a sell-high, but I got a couple trade offers for Charles this morning that are interesting. One was Graham for Charles (guy's also got Bennett and thin at RB).

 

[Rushmore]

Bilal Powell is a guy to grab if you have space on your roster. Owned in 1% of ESPN leagues but he got 10 carries this week. With a crappy Greene ahead of him, he may be getting a chance to run with the job. I'm skeptical he has the talent to pull it off but opportunity is the most important piece of the puzzle. Rough schedule ahead (SF, Houston) but certainly worth stashing.

This...he's not that good, but he might be better than Greene.

I was going to start a separate thread on this but will do it here: What do you think about Powell with Revis going down; a good argument could be made the Jets defense got significantly weaker and they are not going to have the luxury of running the ball in some games. That and the NYJ run game doesn't impress me.

Powell's already the 3rd down back and the Jets don't have the horses to abandon the run and play like the Packers. This is more of an argument for Powell then against him imo. Unless he has something hidden in the tank that we haven't seen yet, he's ceiling seems to be capped about match up / flex option. But that's still useful.

There is a lot of talk about Powell's talent level being very limited. I actually really liked him as a prospect leading up to the draft. He was a a good runner and receiver in college. I was surprised to not see him get more looks up until recently. I don't think the situation is overly conducive to fantasy success, but I wouldn't automatically sell Powell short in terms of talent.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Sell high: Andre Johnson

Why?

Only 5 catches (8 targets) in the last two games. Houston is more run focused. AJ is 31. Still carries a big name but probably isn't going to be the same stud he was when he was getting 10+ targets a game. IMO, he is going to be around WR 10-15 this year but right now you could still get top 5 WR value for him in a trade.

Fair points. Though I'd rather roll with AJ unless I'm wow'd, I can definitely buy that argument.

 

[Lavachebeadsman]

The signs of Shanihanigans are starting. Pick up Royster or Helu, or both, if they are on your wire. They were both more involved than in weeks past. Also, if you are somehow able to buy low on Percy Harvin, do so. 3 weeks in a row of incredibly solid production. The touchdowns are coming.

Both left the game with injuries after barely being involved. Royster has a knee issue and Helu came away limping according to observers.

That I was unaware of. I did some googling and a quick twitter search and didn't find anything.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The signs of Shanihanigans are starting. Pick up Royster or Helu, or both, if they are on your wire. They were both more involved than in weeks past. Also, if you are somehow able to buy low on Percy Harvin, do so. 3 weeks in a row of incredibly solid production. The touchdowns are coming.

Both left the game with injuries after barely being involved. Royster has a knee issue and Helu came away limping according to observers.

That I was unaware of. I did some googling and a quick twitter search and didn't find anything.

I included a link in post 311.

 

[Quibbler]

Sell low: Romo. I want no part of that terrible O-line, and hopefully there are other people in my league who want to buy low on him.

 

[sporthenry]

Torrey Smith - Sell High

Agree. I wish I never drafted this guy. Because of yesterdays performance on my bench, I'll be forced to start him next week where he will get 2 catches for 35 yards.

exactly what I said a week ago. he's the new Lee Evans.

I will respectfully disagree. He is too much apart of the offense to just be ignored. His QB is much better than Lee Evans ever had. The Ravens also have Rice and Pitta but at WR they are pretty limited so Smith will be incorporate not to mention, they are in love with the deep ball. Even in his 2 bad games, the guy still outscored players like Colston, AJ, Brandon Marshall, Ogletree, Dez, Julio in just week 2 when he put up 5 points. Also outscored Cruz, Nicks, Welker in week one. So I guess a lot of guys are boom and bust. Any WR can be relatively shut out at any time and so far T. Smith has actually shown a bit of consistency averaging 50 yards on his bad weeks in his first 2 games as the #1 wide out.

 

[doowain]

I'm going to start shopping him now. Currently offering Sproles/Smith for Gore/Cruz. We'll see.

You will regret this one.

 

[Banger]

Torrey Smith - Sell High

Agree. I wish I never drafted this guy. Because of yesterdays performance on my bench, I'll be forced to start him next week where he will get 2 catches for 35 yards.

exactly what I said a week ago. he's the new Lee Evans.

I will respectfully disagree. He is too much apart of the offense to just be ignored. His QB is much better than Lee Evans ever had. The Ravens also have Rice and Pitta but at WR they are pretty limited so Smith will be incorporate not to mention, they are in love with the deep ball. Even in his 2 bad games, the guy still outscored players like Colston, AJ, Brandon Marshall, Ogletree, Dez, Julio in just week 2 when he put up 5 points. Also outscored Cruz, Nicks, Welker in week one. So I guess a lot of guys are boom and bust. Any WR can be relatively shut out at any time and so far T. Smith has actually shown a bit of consistency averaging 50 yards on his bad weeks in his first 2 games as the #1 wide out.

ya, I really don't know. I know he's talented and has speed. The key in my mind will be over time to see if he can do the other things as opposed to running really fast in the straight line down the field.

 

[chinawildman]

Torrey Smith - Sell High

Agree. I wish I never drafted this guy. Because of yesterdays performance on my bench, I'll be forced to start him next week where he will get 2 catches for 35 yards.

exactly what I said a week ago. he's the new Lee Evans.

I will respectfully disagree. He is too much apart of the offense to just be ignored. His QB is much better than Lee Evans ever had. The Ravens also have Rice and Pitta but at WR they are pretty limited so Smith will be incorporate not to mention, they are in love with the deep ball. Even in his 2 bad games, the guy still outscored players like Colston, AJ, Brandon Marshall, Ogletree, Dez, Julio in just week 2 when he put up 5 points. Also outscored Cruz, Nicks, Welker in week one. So I guess a lot of guys are boom and bust. Any WR can be relatively shut out at any time and so far T. Smith has actually shown a bit of consistency averaging 50 yards on his bad weeks in his first 2 games as the #1 wide out.

ya, I really don't know. I know he's talented and has speed. The key in my mind will be over time to see if he can do the other things as opposed to running really fast in the straight line down the field.

I was beginning to wonder this myself until last night. From my memory he caught a deep in, ran several shallow drag routes and had an out pattern where collingsworth even remarked about how impressed that Smith was able to beat double coverage on that route.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Is welker a sell high? Buy low?

I'm not buying. I have no idea what to make of this situation and could be missing some great value. I'm skeptical he's going to be his usual studly self with all the weapons. Unless they start putting up major points as Yudkin hoped, somebody is taking a hit. I'd shop him if I had him but wouldn't give him away.

The last two weeks, despite not being in for a lot of plays, he put up: 5-95-0

8-142-0

That's still pretty damn good. And I think the problems with the O-Line that are keeping Gronk in more to block are helping the WRs produce more.

 

[SayWhat?]

Didn't get to watch any of the Lions vs Titans game yesterday, so is Leshoure a sell high or buy high? There seems to be extremely conflicting reports about how he looked relative to his relatively productive day.

 

[need2know]

Didn't get to watch any of the Lions vs Titans game yesterday, so is Leshoure a sell high or buy high? There seems to be extremely conflicting reports about how he looked relative to his relatively productive day.

I am trying to throw him in a deal to get McFadden. I like him, but I don't trust his health, his role in the offense, or the lions to consistently run the ball.

 

[BWill]

Jonathan Baldwin.

In dynasty leagues this is the gem who is at the ultimate buy low point in his career.

Bowe sucks... He showed it yesterday. Throw Baldwin the freaking ball more

 

[Sup_Yo]

Jonathan Baldwin.In dynasty leagues this is the gem who is at the ultimate buy low point in his career.Bowe sucks... He showed it yesterday. Throw Baldwin the freaking ball more

Replace Cassel first.

 

[Abspara]

Jonathan Baldwin.In dynasty leagues this is the gem who is at the ultimate buy low point in his career.Bowe sucks... He showed it yesterday. Throw Baldwin the freaking ball more

If Bowe signs elsewhere next year Baldwin will get his shot, until then it's the Cassel & Bowe show. Bowe is a very talented WR with a crappy QB.

 

[Wrigley]

Jonathan Baldwin.In dynasty leagues this is the gem who is at the ultimate buy low point in his career.Bowe sucks... He showed it yesterday. Throw Baldwin the freaking ball more

Replace Cassel first.

This, Bowe isn't the problem in KC

 

[BWill]

Cassel has shown he can have a good season.

I agree though. But still, throw to Baldwin more. He's a freak

 

[RBM]

Didn't get to watch any of the Lions vs Titans game yesterday, so is Leshoure a sell high or buy high? There seems to be extremely conflicting reports about how he looked relative to his relatively productive day.

Looked very strong and physical, but not very explosive or shifty.

 

[The Indestructible]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

 

[Clifford]

I'm going to start shopping him now. Currently offering Sproles/Smith for Gore/Cruz. We'll see.

You will regret this one.

It was rejected so I won't. You think I should cancel counter of Smith/Hunter for Cruz (to Gore owner)?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

If I could flip him in a package for Gronkowski or Graham, sure. Aside from that I wouldn't shop him. I'd listen to offers, but he was expected to be a stud. He was drafted as a stud. He's playing as a stud. Sure he won't keep up his 20+ touchdown pace, but I see no reason to think he won't finish as high as anyone but the two I mentioned.

 

[SameSongNDance]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

 

[jdoggydogg]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

Anyone thinking about trading away Vernon should re-watch those his dominance in the playoffs last year.

 

[SameSongNDance]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

Anyone thinking about trading away Vernon should re-watch those his dominance in the playoffs last year.

Yeah, right now, the top TEs, in no specific order, IMO, are Gronk, Graham, Vernon, Bennett, Pitta and Gonzo. They are getting consistent looks between the 20's and inside the RZ every week. Everyone else is on the outside looking in (aside from Celek, he's on the cusp). I wouldn't be trading away any of these dudes because it means the difference between getting WR1/2 or WR3/4 production week in and week out.

 

[lbouchard]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

Anyone thinking about trading away Vernon should re-watch those his dominance in the playoffs last year.

Yeah, right now, the top TEs, in no specific order, IMO, are Gronk, Graham, Vernon, Bennett, Pitta and Gonzo. They are getting consistent looks between the 20's and inside the RZ every week. Everyone else is on the outside looking in (aside from Celek, he's on the cusp). I wouldn't be trading away any of these dudes because it means the difference between getting WR1/2 or WR3/4 production week in and week out.

KRudolph is also on the list IMO. And AHern will be when back.

 

[need2know]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

Anyone thinking about trading away Vernon should re-watch those his dominance in the playoffs last year.

what about heath miller?Yeah, right now, the top TEs, in no specific order, IMO, are Gronk, Graham, Vernon, Bennett, Pitta and Gonzo. They are getting consistent looks between the 20's and inside the RZ every week. Everyone else is on the outside looking in (aside from Celek, he's on the cusp). I wouldn't be trading away any of these dudes because it means the difference between getting WR1/2 or WR3/4 production week in and week out.

KRudolph is also on the list IMO. And AHern will be when back.

 

[need2know]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

Anyone thinking about trading away Vernon should re-watch those his dominance in the playoffs last year.

what about heath miller?Yeah, right now, the top TEs, in no specific order, IMO, are Gronk, Graham, Vernon, Bennett, Pitta and Gonzo. They are getting consistent looks between the 20's and inside the RZ every week. Everyone else is on the outside looking in (aside from Celek, he's on the cusp). I wouldn't be trading away any of these dudes because it means the difference between getting WR1/2 or WR3/4 production week in and week out.

KRudolph is also on the list IMO. And AHern will be when back.

what about heath miller?

 

[SameSongNDance]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

Anyone thinking about trading away Vernon should re-watch those his dominance in the playoffs last year.

what about heath miller?Yeah, right now, the top TEs, in no specific order, IMO, are Gronk, Graham, Vernon, Bennett, Pitta and Gonzo. They are getting consistent looks between the 20's and inside the RZ every week. Everyone else is on the outside looking in (aside from Celek, he's on the cusp). I wouldn't be trading away any of these dudes because it means the difference between getting WR1/2 or WR3/4 production week in and week out.

KRudolph is also on the list IMO. And AHern will be when back.

Hern, absolutely. Miller and Rudolph totally slipped my mind but I think they are a bit more TD dependent than the previously mentioned TE's. If they keep this up though, they'll easily join the ranks. Honestly, look at all the solid TEs.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Sure those guys look solid. But it's crazy to start lumping Rudolph and Miller in the same class as Vernon. And it's premature imo to put Vernon in the same tier as Gronkowski/Graham.

 

[reprisal]

...Powell's already the 3rd down back and the Jets don't have the horses to abandon the run and play like the Packers. This is more of an argument for Powell then against him imo. Unless he has something hidden in the tank that we haven't seen yet, he's ceiling seems to be capped about match up / flex option. But that's still useful.

There is a lot of talk about Powell's talent level being very limited. I actually really liked him as a prospect leading up to the draft. He was a a good runner and receiver in college. I was surprised to not see him get more looks up until recently. I don't think the situation is overly conducive to fantasy success, but I wouldn't automatically sell Powell short in terms of talent.

I remember several of the FFBG staff were fairly fond of him as well. Not dismissing his talent, so much as the situation. He doesn't seem to have game changing talent to carry this team and the coaching staff doesn't seem to rational about giving up on Greene or McKnight (not that we've seen much of him lately, but ).

 

[SameSongNDance]

...

Powell's already the 3rd down back and the Jets don't have the horses to abandon the run and play like the Packers. This is more of an argument for Powell then against him imo. Unless he has something hidden in the tank that we haven't seen yet, he's ceiling seems to be capped about match up / flex option. But that's still useful.

There is a lot of talk about Powell's talent level being very limited. I actually really liked him as a prospect leading up to the draft. He was a a good runner and receiver in college. I was surprised to not see him get more looks up until recently. I don't think the situation is overly conducive to fantasy success, but I wouldn't automatically sell Powell short in terms of talent.

I remember several of the FFBG staff were fairly fond of him as well. Not dismissing his talent, so much as the situation. He doesn't seem to have game changing talent to carry this team and the coaching staff doesn't seem to rational about giving up on Greene or McKnight (not that we've seen much of him lately, but ).

Jets coach Rex Ryan said at Monday's presser it's "possible" Shonn Greene could begin ceding more early-game touches to Bilal Powell or Joe McKnight.

"That’s certainly a possibility that we’ll look into," Ryan said. "We’ll look at anything that will help our team. Has that been discussed? No." Greene has struggled mightily through New York's first three games, gaining just 157 yards on 57 carries (2.8 YPC). Greene was subbed out for Powell on some of the most important plays in Sunday's win, and could be headed for a full-blown timeshare as early as Week 4. Now is absolutely the time to sell, but it may be too late. Powell is hardly a dynamo (22 carries, 88 yards), but could easily turn out to be the Jets' back to own going forward. McKnight isn't a legitimate threat for an increased role.

Powell is much faster than Greene (not surprising), is more agile (not surprising), has better vision (not surprising) and can actually catch the ball (not surprising). I can't really stress how much more talented Powell is than Greene. Assuming the loss of Revis will negatively impact this defense, and lead to more shoot-outs and such, Powell will be much better suited for this team in the long run.

 

[ClownDogs]

What does everybody think about Vernon Davis as a sell high?

I'd be buying Davis. Last year he saw a dip in production due to not being familiar with Harbaugh's offense and there not being anyone to take even the smallest bit of attention away from him. I very much expect him to keep this up.

Anyone thinking about trading away Vernon should re-watch those his dominance in the playoffs last year.

what about heath miller?Yeah, right now, the top TEs, in no specific order, IMO, are Gronk, Graham, Vernon, Bennett, Pitta and Gonzo. They are getting consistent looks between the 20's and inside the RZ every week. Everyone else is on the outside looking in (aside from Celek, he's on the cusp). I wouldn't be trading away any of these dudes because it means the difference between getting WR1/2 or WR3/4 production week in and week out.

KRudolph is also on the list IMO. And AHern will be when back.

Hern, absolutely. Miller and Rudolph totally slipped my mind but I think they are a bit more TD dependent than the previously mentioned TE's. If they keep this up though, they'll easily join the ranks. Honestly, look at all the solid TEs.

Heard somewhere(possibly on the game broadcast) that Ben said to a reporter earlier in the week that he wanted to get Heath to the pro bowl this year, so if you can get him cheap, i probably would, especially in 1.5ppr for TE's.