Buy low/Sell high week 5 edition... (1 Viewer)

[Banger]

To me, this is often the most critical weeks of the year and the week where you can really pick off some good talent. Teams that have had a slow start and some underperforming players will usually hang in there for a few weeks but at this point if they don't see their picks paying off they may cut bait. This is the week I target very talented players that have had a tough start and try to sell average talents that have overperformed....

Buy low

Andre Johnson - great wr, targetted a lot, passing offense, he'll come around

B. Edwards - his value won't get lower and you don't have the opportunity to get studs cheap, now's the time to take the risk

Winslow - see Edwards

Schaub - faced two tough defenses, then an early bye. Looked great against the Jags and he may even be on WW's.

S. Holmes - I expect him to have a tough game tonight and you pounce tomorrow. You'll probably be able to get him cheap and he's a very good wr.

Hasselbeck - he's totally forgotten and the season couldn't have started any worse for their offense. They are all starting to mend, the bye week is behind them and he'll end up a top 10 qb again once all is said and done.

Sell high

Edge - I haven't liked him all year and maybe you can parlay his lousy 2 td game into a solid player

Chambers - good wr but not enough targets

L. Coles - this will be his highest rank of the year

ETA...P. Manning and Addai to the buy lows...good offense, early bye, although they may not be the offense of last year they'll be up there at the end of the year...

 

[HoTnickZ]

Saavy owners look at Coles and see 3 of his TD's gone from his season end total.

 

[Birdie048]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

 

[Banger]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Ocho would have to be real cheap for me, like K. Walter for Ocho cheap...I didn't like their situation with a healthy Palmer, now that he's injured and I believe Ocho is playing with an injury I don't know that I'd want to deal with that headache. I like all the other guys though...

 

[MCguidance]

Saavy owners look at Coles and see 3 of his TD's gone from his season end total.

What do you mean? This game was an aberration and should be discounted?

 

[Banger]

I can't figure out if MJD is a buy low...I haven't watched any Jag games this year, what's going on there? I know the line is banged up and I thought I heard that he may be banged up too. Any news on him, the stat lines have been pretty yawn inspiring but he's a talented guy.

 

[nyftbl_giants]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Whos selling plex low, ill buy !!!! like the sell high list, though being down here in carolina im excited for moose, could be a good year.

 

[NeverEnough]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Plex is not buy low. I gave R. Moss to get him.Holmes is a sell IMO & I own him.

I've been trying to buy Edwards & Aj all year w/no luck. What are you guys giving for them?

 

[Tanner9919]

While AJ has been out of sync to this point, IMO, he by no means is a buy low candidate..

he's more of a sell-high that anything else. I'm not convinced that he'll turn it around, and Houston seems to have found other options at WR , TE, and especially at the RB position with Slaton..

I don't think AJ will be featured as prominently as he was in years past ...Owen Daniels is legit.Slaton is legit.

they don't need AJ to catch 10+ balls/week anymore..

I'd trade him for a plate of Fries and Gravy in a NY minute..

 

[GroveDiesel]

I like Edwards, but I don't like their schedule at all. They play a lot of tough defenses. I'm not sold on him at all.

Houston doesn't have a great schedule either, especially during fantasy playoffs. You're looking at GB, TEN and OAK. Not so great for AJ.

 

[Kiddnets]

Is R Moss a buy low or avoid at all costs?

 

[NeverEnough]

While AJ has been out of sync to this point, IMO, he by no means is a buy low candidate..he's more of a sell-high that anything else. I'm not convinced that he'll turn it around, and Houston seems to have found other options at WR , TE, and especially at the RB position with Slaton..I don't think AJ will be featured as prominently as he was in years past ...Owen Daniels is legit.Slaton is legit.they don't need AJ to catch 10+ balls/week anymore..I'd trade him for a plate of Fries and Gravy in a NY minute..

You must've missed the fact that AJ is still targeted a ton

 

[NeverEnough]

Is R Moss a buy low or avoid at all costs?

He's a buy low in most cases. I gave Holt & Sproles for him a couple weeks ago. I then traded him for Plex.

 

[Yitbos69]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Plex is not buy low. I gave R. Moss to get him.Holmes is a sell IMO & I own him.

I've been trying to buy Edwards & Aj all year w/no luck. What are you guys giving for them?

I too have been trying to buy AJ and or Edwards with no luck......would love to see what people are giving or getting for them

 

[Banger]

Is R Moss a buy low or avoid at all costs?

I'd take him if I could get him real cheap but I don't like the QB situation at all. He'll get some TD's once they are in the redzone but I don't see him consistently getting a bunch of targets/receptions which will lead to a lot of up and down type efforts.

 

[gdg76]

I know I'll prob get laughed out of here....

The best buy low candidate this week (so low he's prob on 95% on waiver wires) is Kyle Orton.

He's put up respectable numbers against four really tough Ds and the schedule is about to improve a thousandfold (going from Colts, Panthers, Bucs, Eagles to Lions, Falcons, Vikings, Lions).

He's been throwing the ball well and would have a lot better numbers if his receivers didn't always fumble or drop perfect passes.

If you're in need of a viable QB, pick him up cheap now. Not a slam dunk, but as good as he's looked vs tough Ds, it's worth a flyer for what's coming...

 

[I Am Rick James]

Is R Moss a buy low or avoid at all costs?

BOTH, some people think he is worth a DeShawn Jackson, while FBG had him at WR3 (overall) on the top 250 foreward last week. One thing is for sure, you would be rolling the dice to get him.

 

[Wu-banger]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Plex is not buy low. I gave R. Moss to get him.Holmes is a sell IMO & I own him.

I've been trying to buy Edwards & Aj all year w/no luck. What are you guys giving for them?

I too have been trying to buy AJ and or Edwards with no luck......would love to see what people are giving or getting for them

I acquired Edwards and Jamal Lewis for McNAbb and T Jones...after Week 1.My QBs were Warner Big Ben and McNabb and I made this trade with the Brady owner.

I was comfortable giving away McNabb and inserting Warner as the starter and wanted Edwards as my 3rd WR (Moss and Boldin) and had Edwards targeted for this week being Moss' bye.

I have to think that Edwards value is a little lower right now though.... but I am happy I made the deal with Boldin getting hurt this week.

 

[MCguidance]

I know I'll prob get laughed out of here....The best buy low candidate this week (so low he's prob on 95% on waiver wires) is Kyle Orton.He's put up respectable numbers against four really tough Ds and the schedule is about to improve a thousandfold (going from Colts, Panthers, Bucs, Eagles to Lions, Falcons, Vikings, Lions). He's been throwing the ball well and would have a lot better numbers if his receivers didn't always fumble or drop perfect passes.If you're in need of a viable QB, pick him up cheap now. Not a slam dunk, but as good as he's looked vs tough Ds, it's worth a flyer for what's coming...

Thanks for this. I was thinking last night he could be a serviceable QB in larger leagues. Good post.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

I too have been trying to buy AJ and or Edwards with no luck......would love to see what people are giving or getting for them

I gave up Portis/Betts for AJ and Roy Williams (Det) in a dynasty league thsi past Friday. Williams had a 1 yr contract.I didn't want to do it, but I had maneuvered my way into having only 4 WRs - R.Moss, Holt, Ocho Stinko, and J. Walker. I have Peterson, S.Jackson, Grant, and Perry at RB.AJ sure didn't help me in his lineup debut.

 

[davearm]

I know I'll prob get laughed out of here....The best buy low candidate this week (so low he's prob on 95% on waiver wires) is Kyle Orton.He's put up respectable numbers against four really tough Ds and the schedule is about to improve a thousandfold (going from Colts, Panthers, Bucs, Eagles to Lions, Falcons, Vikings, Lions). He's been throwing the ball well and would have a lot better numbers if his receivers didn't always fumble or drop perfect passes.If you're in need of a viable QB, pick him up cheap now. Not a slam dunk, but as good as he's looked vs tough Ds, it's worth a flyer for what's coming...

Thanks for this. I was thinking last night he could be a serviceable QB in larger leagues. Good post.

Yesterday afternoon I was giving a buddy a hard time after he told me Orton was his backup QB. Now I'm thinking about grabbing the guy myself.

 

[barista]

I know I'll prob get laughed out of here....The best buy low candidate this week (so low he's prob on 95% on waiver wires) is Kyle Orton.He's put up respectable numbers against four really tough Ds and the schedule is about to improve a thousandfold (going from Colts, Panthers, Bucs, Eagles to Lions, Falcons, Vikings, Lions). He's been throwing the ball well and would have a lot better numbers if his receivers didn't always fumble or drop perfect passes.If you're in need of a viable QB, pick him up cheap now. Not a slam dunk, but as good as he's looked vs tough Ds, it's worth a flyer for what's coming...

go pack.

 

[Da Guru]

I always get a chuckle out of these buy low-sell high threads.

The only league I can do this in is my work/fun league where nobody knows squat.

In my two leagues that have 500 dollar entry fees nobody buys a good player low because the teams are too shrewd and will not sell low. And when a guy is going good nobody sells high because of the money to be won.

 

[Tenacious]

Sell High:

LJ

 

[Yitbos69]

Is R.Grant a buy low?

 

[shredhead]

I know I'll prob get laughed out of here....The best buy low candidate this week (so low he's prob on 95% on waiver wires) is Kyle Orton.He's put up respectable numbers against four really tough Ds and the schedule is about to improve a thousandfold (going from Colts, Panthers, Bucs, Eagles to Lions, Falcons, Vikings, Lions). He's been throwing the ball well and would have a lot better numbers if his receivers didn't always fumble or drop perfect passes.If you're in need of a viable QB, pick him up cheap now. Not a slam dunk, but as good as he's looked vs tough Ds, it's worth a flyer for what's coming...

Thanks for this. I was thinking last night he could be a serviceable QB in larger leagues. Good post.

Yesterday afternoon I was giving a buddy a hard time after he told me Orton was his backup QB. Now I'm thinking about grabbing the guy myself.

One of my teams I drafted Anderson and Bulger. I already dumped Bulger to get Campbell. I am dumping Anderson this week and am considering Orton. Somebody gave up on Shaub last week, so I think I'll go after him instead, but the mere fact that I have actually considered Orton for a QB I drafted in the 5th or 6th round, makes me

 

[David Yudkin]

For deeper leagues, this is the week to get Kevin O'Connell for next to nothing (like for free off waivers). Maybe next week too, but after that he'll be gone. Should be starting in a few more games unless Cassel makes huge strides in the next couple games.

 

[Butters]

Sell High:LJ

Beat me to that one.

 

[fflnut]

For deeper leagues, this is the week to get Kevin O'Connell for next to nothing (like for free off waivers). Maybe next week too, but after that he'll be gone. Should be starting in a few more games unless Cassel makes huge strides in the next couple games.

Thinking he'll that much more effective than Cassel has been?

 

[jagbag]

I know I'll prob get laughed out of here....The best buy low candidate this week (so low he's prob on 95% on waiver wires) is Kyle Orton.He's put up respectable numbers against four really tough Ds and the schedule is about to improve a thousandfold (going from Colts, Panthers, Bucs, Eagles to Lions, Falcons, Vikings, Lions). He's been throwing the ball well and would have a lot better numbers if his receivers didn't always fumble or drop perfect passes.If you're in need of a viable QB, pick him up cheap now. Not a slam dunk, but as good as he's looked vs tough Ds, it's worth a flyer for what's coming...

I agree. The only thing that would concern me is Lloyd's health. He's been his main go to receiver, and without him in the second half yesterday the offense wasn't sharp. I know Orton's TD's went to different players yesterday though.I liked the hurry up offense in the first half they used at times.

 

[GroveDiesel]

For deeper leagues, this is the week to get Kevin O'Connell for next to nothing (like for free off waivers). Maybe next week too, but after that he'll be gone. Should be starting in a few more games unless Cassel makes huge strides in the next couple games.

Thinking he'll that much more effective than Cassel has been?

In my case, I'm actually going to drop Cassel for O'Connell. Cassel is virtually unstartable now for me anyway so I might as well roll the dice on O'Connell.

 

[HoTnickZ]

Saavy owners look at Coles and see 3 of his TD's gone from his season end total.

What do you mean? This game was an aberration and should be discounted?

Yes. I don't think you can expect his TD rate to continue even at a reduced and realistic level. I'm guessing a lot of people might not have even started him. How many TD's do you think LC finishes up with?

 

[NeverEnough]

Sell High:LJ

But who do you guys think one could get for LJ?

 

[davearm]

Saavy owners look at Coles and see 3 of his TD's gone from his season end total.

What do you mean? This game was an aberration and should be discounted?

Yes. I don't think you can expect his TD rate to continue even at a reduced and realistic level. I'm guessing a lot of people might not have even started him. How many TD's do you think LC finishes up with?

Regardless of how many TD's a person you thinks LC will finish with, your post implies that he'll score fewer the rest of the way because he "used up" three of his total yesterday, as if there's a finite number available for the whole season.That's ridiculous. If anything, the Favre/Coles hookup took a step forward yesterday, improving Coles' outlook for the rest of the season.

 

[Butters]

Sell High:

LJ

But who do you guys think one could get for LJ?

I didn't say I could get anything good him. But what you can get for him may be at its highest now.

 

[HoTnickZ]

Saavy owners look at Coles and see 3 of his TD's gone from his season end total.

What do you mean? This game was an aberration and should be discounted?

Yes. I don't think you can expect his TD rate to continue even at a reduced and realistic level. I'm guessing a lot of people might not have even started him. How many TD's do you think LC finishes up with?

Regardless of how many TD's a person you thinks LC will finish with, your post implies that he'll score fewer the rest of the way because he "used up" three of his total yesterday, as if there's a finite number available for the whole season.That's ridiculous. If anything, the Favre/Coles hookup took a step forward yesterday, improving Coles' outlook for the rest of the season.

I'm sure there's a mathematical theorem out there that shows that the odds are unchanged but I think when dealing with people there are more variables to consider. I'm not subtracting it from his season end total, but there is not an infinite amount of TD's available either, especially for a player who was previously thought to have a limited ceiling. I think you will get hit and misses with him. If you can get something more certain in return, I think you take it.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

I know I'll prob get laughed out of here....The best buy low candidate this week (so low he's prob on 95% on waiver wires) is Kyle Orton.He's put up respectable numbers against four really tough Ds and the schedule is about to improve a thousandfold (going from Colts, Panthers, Bucs, Eagles to Lions, Falcons, Vikings, Lions). He's been throwing the ball well and would have a lot better numbers if his receivers didn't always fumble or drop perfect passes.If you're in need of a viable QB, pick him up cheap now. Not a slam dunk, but as good as he's looked vs tough Ds, it's worth a flyer for what's coming...

I agree. The only thing that would concern me is Lloyd's health. He's been his main go to receiver, and without him in the second half yesterday the offense wasn't sharp. I know Orton's TD's went to different players yesterday though.I liked the hurry up offense in the first half they used at times.

At one point during the game last night, Madden made reference to Orton's effectiveness inside the 30 because he can "make all the throws" down there. If the Bears can run the ball effectively - and if they don't give Forte some help he's going to be a sell high becuase he'll eventually get killed - Orton should be a serviceable, bye-week/matchup type guy. I just wouldn't expect 3 TDs every week. And I agree with the Lloyd factor. He adds a vertical dimension that opens up the running game and should open the underneath for Olsen to shine.

 

[NYG Endzone]

Sell High:

LJ

But who do you guys think one could get for LJ?

I didn't say I could get anything good him. But what you can get for him may be at its highest now.

Prior to kickoff Sunday. ·Boss, Kevin TE NYG

·Jackson, Steven RB STL

for

·Johnson, Larry RB KC

·Miller, Zach TE OAK

 

[Banger]

Sell High:LJ

why?He's very talented and performing very well. He's had one stinker and as long as Huard is starting I think he'll be fine.

 

[p00h]

Sell High:LJ

Beat me to that one.

You'd both be wrong. LJ is going to have a great year. That team is better than they are being given credit for, and will not be on the wrong end of blowouts too much. And 1 think I know about Herm(jets fan) is that he will run LJ into the ground till he cants no more. Believe that. Hold onto LJ. I'm getting offers left and right that are laughable. In today's NFL, name me 3 other rbs that are basically in on 90+ % of the team's plays. You can't...

 

[Banger]

Sell High:LJ

Beat me to that one.

You'd both be wrong. LJ is going to have a great year. That team is better than they are being given credit for, and will not be on the wrong end of blowouts too much. And 1 think I know about Herm(jets fan) is that he will run LJ into the ground till he cants no more. Believe that. Hold onto LJ. I'm getting offers left and right that are laughable. In today's NFL, name me 3 other rbs that are basically in on 90+ % of the team's plays. You can't...

I agree for the most part but don't like the fact that he comes out often on 3rd downs for Charles. He's not getting the receiving opportunities that he did last year and that will effect his yearend numbers. The absolute key to his value is having Huard in at QB. As long as he's there he should be fine. Also, I'm curious about Albert's elbow and his status going forward. Aside from that, he's running angry, breaking tackles and making long runs. He gets all the redzone touches and should get 20+touches/game. If anything I'd look to buy LJ if you can get him cheap from an owner just looking to try and profit a bit from his last 2 weeks....

 

[GoldenBear]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Plex is not buy low. I gave R. Moss to get him.Holmes is a sell IMO & I own him.

I've been trying to buy Edwards & Aj all year w/no luck. What are you guys giving for them?

I too have been trying to buy AJ and or Edwards with no luck......would love to see what people are giving or getting for them

I gave Larry Johnson for Edwards last week...it was more because I just don't trust Larry to consistently produce on that terrible Chiefs team. I look like a damned fool this week, but that's all right; it happens.

 

[SleeperPix]

Is R.Grant a buy low?

Good question. What's the consensus here?

 

[SCT]

LJ is not a sell hi.

How many rb's get 28 carries these days?

FF is all about opportunity.

 

[Banger]

Is R.Grant a buy low?

Good question. What's the consensus here?

He's a guy I'm also on the fence about. To me, it depends on the status of Rodgers and Grant's hammy. I'm not sure how healed up he is but if Rodgers is out for a while it may not matter. Their backup situation is potentially horrendous so running lanes may be very tough to come by.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Sell High:

Brett Favre

Jason Campbell

LT

LJ

Ronnie Brown

Chris Johnson

SJax

Edge

Slaton

L Coles

S Moss

Buy Low:

C Palmer

Bulger

Rodgers

MJD

Thomas Jones

Lendale White

Ryan Grant

Brandon Jacobs

Willis McGahee

TJ Housh

Ocho Cinco

Colston

Plaxico

Braylon Edwards

Roy Williams

etc....

There are a lot of guys who have high stock now that you might be able to move for a good return. There are also a lot of guys who have very low stock right now that you could get for a song.

 

[Short Corner]

Saavy owners look at Coles and see 3 of his TD's gone from his season end total.

You're the guy who passes on a player because of the Madden Curse too, right?

 

[Birdie048]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Plex is not buy low. I gave R. Moss to get him.Holmes is a sell IMO & I own him.

I've been trying to buy Edwards & Aj all year w/no luck. What are you guys giving for them?

Ok.. I'll admit I have not finished reading all the posts in this thread... but some Plex owners are nervous at his playing time since he was suspended, has a bye and the NFL is looking at possible action due to his "domestic" issues. I have heard Plex going for K Walters in 1 moderately competitive league (the Plex owner needs help Week 5 with Bowe & Evand out). Ocho no longer has the shoulder harness and is close to 100%. Now Fitzpatrick is a little concern at QB, but he does have potential. He did OK for a few games before (in StL IIRC).

 

[GoldenBear]

Sell High

M Muhammad

L Moore

B Favre

Buy Low

AJ

Colston

Plex

Holmes

B Edwards

Ocho

Plex is not buy low. I gave R. Moss to get him.Holmes is a sell IMO & I own him.

I've been trying to buy Edwards & Aj all year w/no luck. What are you guys giving for them?

Ok.. I'll admit I have not finished reading all the posts in this thread... but some Plex owners are nervous at his playing time since he was suspended, has a bye and the NFL is looking at possible action due to his "domestic" issues. I have heard Plex going for K Walters in 1 moderately competitive league (the Plex owner needs help Week 5 with Bowe & Evand out). Ocho no longer has the shoulder harness and is close to 100%. Now Fitzpatrick is a little concern at QB, but he does have potential. He did OK for a few games before (in StL IIRC).

Fitzpatrick = career QB rating of 55.3...given the bad feelings in that clubhouse, I can't imagine a worse situation in Cincy...oh, and if you look at the news page, there is an article that implies Palmer's shoulder problem may be worse than "tenderness".

 

[HoTnickZ]

Saavy owners look at Coles and see 3 of his TD's gone from his season end total.

You're the guy who passes on a player because of the Madden Curse too, right?

Not at all. I phrased it incorrectly, admittedly it does sound illogical - although there is the variable of defenses shifting over to him more to limit production which would then be distributed elsewhere. With that said, was his output yesterday an indicator of future performance, either success or failure?