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Palmer say's he's a changed guy. He better be before it's to late to make it in the NFL and get rich.
Does he shove Coles aside as the #2? I don't think there are enough balls for Ocho, Coles and Henry to all have strong fantasy years. He certainly looks like he could do it if given the opportinity.
Cincy isn't exactly loaded with TEs and RBs that deserve many targets. They might be able to keep all 3 happy.
I think Coles goes to #3 also that's when he isn't hurt ,Coles always is hurt.
He is, but has only missed 4 games the last 8 seasons.
Corrected...IMO
Awesome. I'm so thankful that I bought into the Henry hype and drafted him, that I too may go tip some back with some minors. Thanks for the idea.
I haven't seen any of the games. Who has been the QB throwing to Henry? Have all four TDs come against backup defenses?
GM1 vs NO - C.Henry 14 yd. pass from J.O'Sullivan (S.Graham kick) (13-68, 4:47) - 2nd QtrGM2 vs NE - C.Henry 24 yd. pass from J.O'Sullivan (C.Ochocinco kick) (8-47, 3:27) - 2nd QtrGM3 vs STL- C.Henry 54 yd. pass from J.Palmer (S.Swank kick) (7-97, 4:33) - 4th QtrGM4 vs IND - C.Henry 7 yd. pass from J.Palmer (S.Swank kick) (8-81, 4:11) - 2nd Qtr
Thanks!
He is right. on most teams RB's will catch 30 to 60 passes combined.Benson wont likely get more than 10.and I cant see any TE getting more than 10 either.This is a team where the scheme allows the #3 WR to put up some numbers.I am predicting 700 yards receiving for Henry and if someone gets hurt, that number can go up.
I've been a huge supporter of Henry's during the last 2 years, but he's currently in Lewis' doghouse after trying to make a tackle like a woman. Henry has all the skill in the world to become a stud, but if he's not ready in Lewis' eyes...then sorry boys, but he's not going to be much of a fantasy factor this year. Henry played vs 3rd and 4th stringers in both preseason games 3 and 4.
His ADP is 90 from a I site I use. The data is from 777 mock drafts between September 2, 2009 and September 3, 2009.Maybe someone uses another site to get ADP than I do ?
I do believe catching passes is the main job of a WR not tackling. There are many WR's who don't know or want to tackle.I've been a huge supporter of Henry's during the last 2 years, but he's currently in Lewis' doghouse after trying to make a tackle like a woman. Henry has all the skill in the world to become a stud, but if he's not ready in Lewis' eyes...then sorry boys, but he's not going to be much of a fantasy factor this year. Henry played vs 3rd and 4th stringers in both preseason games 3 and 4.
When he hasn't been serving suspensions, he's been on the field making big plays against 1st stringers. I don't see why Lewis would have played him before but now he won't. He's never been able to block. Also... Marvin doesn't decide who plays.... Mikey does.I've been a huge supporter of Henry's during the last 2 years, but he's currently in Lewis' doghouse after trying to make a tackle like a woman. Henry has all the skill in the world to become a stud, but if he's not ready in Lewis' eyes...then sorry boys, but he's not going to be much of a fantasy factor this year. Henry played vs 3rd and 4th stringers in both preseason games 3 and 4.
Well, since I have drafted him in every league, I sure hope it's more like 1600/16... I could take 100 and 1 each game
I see what your saying as he does get hurt, but when he's not hurt and he's fully health Coles isn't a bad player at all.
I agree. But this is also a new season and it's not impossible that Henry is in fact the best fantasy WR currently on the Bengals. I wouldn't bet on it, but things can change pretty quickly in the NFL.
I agree he MAY be the most talented. I just don't think looking at what he did in the preseason games should factor much into that. Remember, most teams don't play their stars in the final week, so by definition someone scoring in every preseason game isn't entering the season as the team's top option (in MOST cases, I realize some teams did have their starters in for a time). We also have to remember that Coles didn't play much but there's no indication he won't be in the starting lineup come Week One. And by all accounts, Ochocinco is focused, healthy and ready to dominate. I wouldn't be surprised if Henry is the better fantasy option that Coles this year, and based on their respective ADPs, I would rather have Henry. But I think Ochocinco puts up fringe WR1 numbers this year as long as Palmer is healthy.
Could be, but for that to play out, it would be quite the story. And Henry is not some secret anymore. At this point, Coles might be the best value. That's the guy I've been grabbing.
As much as it pains me as a Bronco's fan, I agree with you. I'm just having a hard time justifying playing him over Anthony Gonzalez or DeSean Jackson. It's up in the air in my mind right now. No need to comment on this, if I want input I'll post it as a question/poll in the AC forum. I just thought it might add to the conversation that I consider Henry on par with Gonzo and DeSean.
I think both of you make good points. One thing I'm wondering about is how much of Henry's depth chart status is a true reflection of his ability vs. Lewis trying to keep his ego in check to help him walk the straight and narrow. When the real games start, especially as October approaches, might Henry see more time?League format plays a huge factor in the equation as to the value of the Bengals receivers in 2009. In a TD heavy league, the separation among the three is the least, and Henry has the greatest value as a close 3rd.Of course, none of this matters if the offensive line doesn't give Palmer time to throw rendering him far less effective and/or injured. If I recall correctly, part of the reason #85 saw his numbers decline starting in 2006 was that the offensive line began to struggle, and as a result could not provide sufficient time for the deeper routes and instead forced Palmer to get rid of the ball more quickly to Housh and even Henry. I may be simplifying and/or mixing my seasons, but look at the 2006 receiving totals for Cincinnati:
#85 87-1369-7Housh 90-1081-9Henry 36-605-9
Its nice to agree again with you Switz (Donald Brown), I like Henry as well and have targeted him as a 4th with number two upside, I think he is their best overall WR. I dont think he has the come back to the ball skills of OCHO or the get open route running ability of Coles, but if your behind in the game late in the 4th quarter I think he becomes their best shot at scoring quickly. He gets behind the defender and catches the ball as well as anyone in the league.Well, since I have drafted him in every league, I sure hope it's more like 1600/16... I could take 100 and 1 each game
IMO I think Henry depth chart status is because he still is raw. If you watch Hard Knocks you can see that they still need to keep on him about his route running, intensity, etc. The talent is definitely there but I think it's the little things that he needs to tighten up on and improve to keep him on the field on all downs. There's no doubt that he's a better talent than Coles at this stage of the game but Coles is a pro and knows how to do the little things, where to be, etc..
It is the main job, but not the only job. Henry is in the doghouse right now. This thread seems to WAY overhype him. Like I said before, I hope I'm wrong, but Henry won't be much more than a wr4-5 for fantasy purposes this year.ETA: I just found this article...MNTom said:I do believe catching passes is the main job of a WR not tackling. There are many WR's who don't know or want to tackle.tuttiface said:I've been a huge supporter of Henry's during the last 2 years, but he's currently in Lewis' doghouse after trying to make a tackle like a woman. Henry has all the skill in the world to become a stud, but if he's not ready in Lewis' eyes...then sorry boys, but he's not going to be much of a fantasy factor this year. Henry played vs 3rd and 4th stringers in both preseason games 3 and 4.Maven said:
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Not sure if I'd compare Henry to Boldin or Colston. Colston and Boldin both had a huge rookie years coming from nowhere. This is Henry's 5th year in the leauge and he has had semi-productive seasons in the past.
It is important if it keeps you off the feild. Only way to outproduce your draft position is if you see relative playing time.
They are paying Coles Henry's money. He's an insurance policy for the guy that should be making 6 mil a year if his head would have been on straight.Exactly!Banger said:Plus Coles is not going to be a WR3 with that contract
