Cadillac Williams Going Forward (1 Viewer)

[jimmyd9989]

Just made a trade in my 16-team league for Cadillac Williams. The league is extremely deep at running back so a borderline RB2 in most leagues still has a lot of value in mine. What do you think the rest of the season looks like for Cadillac? I traded him for Stewart since the owner needed an RB for Cadillac's bye week. Up until today Dodds had him ranked higher in the rest of the season projections and it just got changed being surpassed by Stewart. Anybody think there is still some left in the tank for Williams? I have a gut feeling that he will be okay if Freeman keeps defenses honest (and I don't see Blount as anything more than a short yardage back).

 

[tunamelt warrior]

I think I would have done a little more research before pulling the trigger on that trade. Caddy is in a pretty precarious position right now...

 

[mdlane]

Wow. I'm really surprised someone who drafted JStew would trade him for Caddy. IMO people who pay the necessary high pick/auction $$ to draft JStew (me) tend to value talent over situation and Caddy is the opposite of that - sort of like the Deshaun Foster of the 2010 draft (all situation, mediocre-below mediocre talent).

Anyway, I think the prognosis for Caddy in the remainder of 2010 is gloomy. His YPC is horrible, his workload is unsustainable for a RB with his injury history - let alone his horrible YPC, he is slated to lose goal-line work, and I think there's a respectable chance that he'll lose 5-8 touches between the 20s to Huggins whenever Huggins takes the field. I also was impressed with Blount's carries last Sunday and had the opposite impression of yours (and other "sharks" on this board to be fair) - I saw an RB running with serious attitude that can do some legitimate damage if he gets 15-20 touches a week.

If I were you, I'd run, not walk to the WW and grab Blount.

ETA: Check out this highlight and see if you agree:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZnFSv1fwF8

 

[Goldalene]

Tampa's coach has said Williams' carries will be reduced, and his ypc underlines how ineffective he's been. Everything suggests he's a rb on his way down, and i think he's only got minimal value.

 

[Choke]

Cadillac Williams Going Forward In Reverse.

 

[Thumper]

When a coach is coming out publicly and saying that his carries are going to be limited and prasing the hard running style of a guy breathing down his neck I would say that the future doesn't look very bright for Cadillac Williams.

Beyond that is there a rb in the NFL who is more likely to get hurt than Williams? If I were you I'd be doing my best to try and pick up Blount from the ww if he is still there. The Bucs are playing for the future at this point and Williams is the past.

 

[jimmyd9989]

my reasoning against J Stewart going forward was that he would become even less valuable due to Mike Goodsen getting 3rd down reps and Deangelo Williams drastically outplaying him. Stewart can't stay healthy and is only seeing 5-10 carries a game (on a team who will most likely be throwing a LOT more while playing catchup this year). In Cadillac I saw a guy who's role might diminish but he will still get on the upwards on 15 carries a game minimum. And FYI I didn't draft Stewart I got him in a trade last week that I made.

 

[Traders2001]

Cadillac is more like a RB4 ...

 

[Air Stich]

I wouldn't have made the trade, but you are got a guy who is getting carries vs a guy who isn't. The only way this works out for you is if Caddy uses the RBs behind him as motivation to become more effective. I'm one of the people who believes that Blount will ultimately take over as the lead back in Tampa, so I recommend you pick him up quickly if you've got the room. If Blount's still on the wire after next weekend, you might be putting in a claim to pick him up and drop Caddy.

 

[Air Stich]

my reasoning against J Stewart going forward was that he would become even less valuable due to Mike Goodsen getting 3rd down reps and Deangelo Williams drastically outplaying him. Stewart can't stay healthy and is only seeing 5-10 carries a game (on a team who will most likely be throwing a LOT more while playing catchup this year). In Cadillac I saw a guy who's role might diminish but he will still get on the upwards on 15 carries a game minimum. And FYI I didn't draft Stewart I got him in a trade last week that I made.

Not to worry. I don't think you could go too wrong either way. Many are predicting the total demise of Caddy, which is premature as long as he's healthy. That said, I'd DEFINITELY look to move him if he has any uptick in value from here on.

 

[jimmyd9989]

I wouldn't have made the trade, but you are got a guy who is getting carries vs a guy who isn't. The only way this works out for you is if Caddy uses the RBs behind him as motivation to become more effective. I'm one of the people who believes that Blount will ultimately take over as the lead back in Tampa, so I recommend you pick him up quickly if you've got the room. If Blount's still on the wire after next weekend, you might be putting in a claim to pick him up and drop Caddy.

Should I be worried about either of them losing carries to Huggins once he returns from injury? Or was that just pre season hype that has been surpassed by Blount?

 

[menobrown]

I don't think he's going to lose his starting job, at least not yet anyway, but I think his value is still fairly minimal.

There are a few things I think people are over reacting on, his YPC being one. Most of that was done in the first two games of the season on a team with a rookie as their best WR and a QB rusty from missing a lot of time. He averaged almost 4 YPC last year and I don't see a drop off in his play. A little early to start piling on his low YPC, at least in my opinion.

His coach said he wanted to reduce his carries. Of course he did and will, he had like 49 carries after two weeks, that's not sustainable.

Now for the bad news. He got over 50 touches the first two games and even in PPR leagues failed to average double digit fantasy points. So even with all of those touches I thought he was a weak RB3. No he can assured of probably getting about no goal line looks. He lacks game breaking speed so he just won't have a lot of chances to score long TD's. I'm thinking he'll end up between 2-4 TD's on the year, that's all.

I think for the immediate future he will still lead the team in carries but probably more around the 12-15 mark in carries. I think when he does that you will see his YPC spike up but without scoring TD's it's not go to me a lot of scoring.

One bit of good news that might save some of his value in PPR leagues is he's been heavily targeted in the passing game the last two weeks, drawing 12 targets. Now a healthy Huggins could put a damper on this which would be bad as I think this is Caddy's main way of keeping value. I see him averaging around 50 yards rushing game with scant TD production so his only way of getting his value up is to catch 2-3 passes a game which along the yardage can get him near 10 points a game. I don't know if that's a RB3 or a RB4 but it's a RB I only want in my lineup when I'm desperate. Which in 16 team leagues and some other deep leagues you do need a guy you think can get you 10 points a game.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I don't think he's going to lose his starting job, at least not yet anyway, but I think his value is still fairly minimal.There are a few things I think people are over reacting on, his YPC being one. Most of that was done in the first two games of the season on a team with a rookie as their best WR and a QB rusty from missing a lot of time. He averaged almost 4 YPC last year and I don't see a drop off in his play. A little early to start piling on his low YPC, at least in my opinion.His coach said he wanted to reduce his carries. Of course he did and will, he had like 49 carries after two weeks, that's not sustainable.Now for the bad news. He got over 50 touches the first two games and even in PPR leagues failed to average double digit fantasy points. So even with all of those touches I thought he was a weak RB3. No he can assured of probably getting about no goal line looks. He lacks game breaking speed so he just won't have a lot of chances to score long TD's. I'm thinking he'll end up between 2-4 TD's on the year, that's all.I think for the immediate future he will still lead the team in carries but probably more around the 12-15 mark in carries. I think when he does that you will see his YPC spike up but without scoring TD's it's not go to me a lot of scoring.One bit of good news that might save some of his value in PPR leagues is he's been heavily targeted in the passing game the last two weeks, drawing 12 targets. Now a healthy Huggins could put a damper on this which would be bad as I think this is Caddy's main way of keeping value. I see him averaging around 50 yards rushing game with scant TD production so his only way of getting his value up is to catch 2-3 passes a game which along the yardage can get him near 10 points a game. I don't know if that's a RB3 or a RB4 but it's a RB I only want in my lineup when I'm desperate. Which in 16 team leagues and some other deep leagues you do need a guy you think can get you 10 points a game.

This is pretty :X I do recall a couple decent plays getting called back because of penalties. I also think a guy like Blount could actually help Caddy out. Blount will wear down the defenses and Caddy will have more chances for bigger plays. I think he can still break out 20+ yard carries he just hasn't had the opportunity this season. Great point on YPC. The second game Tampa had the lead and was trying to run the clock out.

 

[jimmyd9989]

I agree with what was said above as well. 3 games is too early to judge but if he can manage 15+ carries a game than thats all the output I could ask for a bye-week RB3

 

[DaWidowMaker]

I agree with what was said above as well. 3 games is too early to judge but if he can manage 15+ carries a game than thats all the output I could ask for a bye-week RB3

The object of fantasy football is to win not just to have a RB you can plug in on a bye. You will be at a major disadvantage vs whomever you play when you insert Caddillac (if he even still has the job). All you have to do is look at his most recent body of work (last 20 starts) and injury history. Why would you want a guy like this on your team?