Calling all the Reggie Bush pimps (1 Viewer)

[TheFanatic]

You know what they say, the 3rd year is the break out year for RB's! Oh, wait that's for WR's. Considering his rushing numbers and his recieving numbers it would seem that Bush should switch to 85 and hang up the number 25:

Season	  Team	   	Rushing	  Receiving	  Fumbles						   G 	GS 	Att 	Yds 	Avg 	Lng 	TD 	Rec 	Yds 	Avg 	Lng 	TD 	FUM 	Lost2008 	New Orleans Saints 	2 	2 	24 	79 	3.3 	26 	0 	15 	175 	11.7 	42T 	1 	-- 	--

 

[EBF]

 

[biggamer3]

He has put up two great weeks for my team at least

his return for a TD counted

 

[joffer]

unbelievable

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Larry Centers

 

[buck naked]

For those of us in ppr leagues, he has been just what was expected.

 

[Maven]

He's producing and its still early... ? Why be down on Bush at this point? Doesn't make sense? It's one thing to criticize his yards per carry but to question his production this year is ludicrous.

 

[StrikeS2k]

He's the 4th highest scoring player in my league through two games, not including tonight's game of course. I can live with that.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

For those of us in ppr leagues, he has been just what was expected.

We seem to be having one of those "you're talking about FF and we're talking about real football" threads.

 

[TheFanatic]

He's producing and its still early... ? Why be down on Bush at this point? Doesn't make sense? It's one thing to criticize his yards per carry but to question his production this year is ludicrous.

He's had decent production, just not as a RB. Although he is on pace to beat his previous season high in rushing. But then again, he only needs 600 yards to do that.Seriously though, it seems he has really stepped up his receiving skills as his YPR is almost double what it was last year. But the problem is that he supposedly worked all offseason to try to become a better inside runner and that, it would seem, is never going to happen.

 

[Maven]

He's producing and its still early... ? Why be down on Bush at this point? Doesn't make sense? It's one thing to criticize his yards per carry but to question his production this year is ludicrous.

He's had decent production, just not as a RB. Although he is on pace to beat his previous season high in rushing. But then again, he only needs 600 yards to do that.Seriously though, it seems he has really stepped up his receiving skills as his YPR is almost double what it was last year. But the problem is that he supposedly worked all offseason to try to become a better inside runner and that, it would seem, is never going to happen.

I see your point ....But just to be fair though, Pierre Thomas in 4 less carries (Bush had 10) averaged 1.3 a carry (Bush 2.8). Maybe it has something to do with NO's offensive line? Maybe the Redskins are a decent run defensive team? We'll see...

 

[shakeybarn]

You know what they say, the 3rd year is the break out year for RB's! Oh, wait that's for WR's. Considering his rushing numbers and his recieving numbers it would seem that Bush should switch to 85 and hang up the number 25:

Season	  Team	   	Rushing	  Receiving	  Fumbles						   G 	GS 	Att 	Yds 	Avg 	Lng 	TD 	Rec 	Yds 	Avg 	Lng 	TD 	FUM 	Lost2008 	New Orleans Saints 	2 	2 	24 	79 	3.3 	26 	0 	15 	175 	11.7 	42T 	1 	-- 	--

Um...... uh, so if you want to start calling out bust vs boom... from a receiving perspective he's on pace for 120 receps, 1,400 yds and 8 TDs. The 600 yards rushing would be icing on the cake.2,000 total yards for one is Top 5... add the 120 receptions in a PPR and he's a near #1. It's early, but your blather is pointless, is the point.Disclosure: don't own Bush, never have actually. Just spotting an idiotic anti-Bush posting (me thinks the OP might be a Buckeye fan ;-) )

 

[MCguidance]

I started the breakout year thread, so if you are trying to say I am a "pimp" then I guess that's what I did. But in reality all I did was take his one very good week one and ask the simple question, could it be his year? We see breakouts after one year, two, three, etc. But I was legitimately asking the question, "Does the Shark Pool think he could breakout this year into top RB territory?"

I will say that he is still lacking consistency, something most good RBs provide. In PPR leagues, there is no doubt he is helping their owners win. In standard and TD formats, he is a bit more of a disappointment. But remember, I was asking about the coming year, not week one or two scores. There is a long way to go to answer that question - one way or another.

 

[tombonneau]

I'm always amazed at the amount of energy people will devote to negative campaigns against certain players. I just don't get it. Why waster you time & energy on it? What do you have to prove or gain? Why not talk about players and teams you like instead of attacking and criticizing a player you hate?

As far as Bush's fantasy production, I'm sure his owners are quite happy.

As far as NFL production, they guy can help if he was marketing to high heaven when he hit the league. I don't think you'd be turning down any million dollar endorsements deals when you were 21. He clearly isn't "the man" at RB, but he brings special skills to the passing and return game. But feel free to continue spending your time making posts about him and being part of the very "over-exposed" problem you are essentially complaining about ...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LOL

in my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

 

[Chunky Soup]

LOLin my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

...and Phil Rivers is the #2 QB. ...and Eddie Royal is the #3 WR....and Santana Moss is the #4 WR.What's your point? It's early.

 

[awesomeness]

the kid has 249 yards from scrimmage, 2 TDs in his first 2 games. Even if you aren't in a PPR league and don't count his 15 receptions, my guess is he's still been a top 10 RB so far this year. Considering in a non-PPR league you can probably get him in the 3rd round, i dont think any of his owners are complaining at all.

 

[Jayrod]

In my receving heavy, return yardage league, he's #2 overall so far behind Cutler (including IDP's).

He's a change of pace back and slot receiver all in one on a top offense with a poor defense. Fantasy wise, he will breakout and finish in the top 10 in most leagues at this rate.

Even in regular leagues, he's averaging 127 yards from scrimage and a TD per game so far. What the heck is wrong with him?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

LOLin my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

...and Phil Rivers is the #2 QB. ...and Eddie Royal is the #3 WR....and Santana Moss is the #4 WR.What's your point? It's early.

I remember a couple years ago when Grossman and David Carr were in the top 10 after a couple weeks.

 

[Jayrod]

LOLin my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

...and Phil Rivers is the #2 QB. ...and Eddie Royal is the #3 WR....and Santana Moss is the #4 WR.What's your point? It's early.

I'd say all three of those guys are breaking out....especially Royal.Isn't that what we are talking about? The OP says Bush isn't having a big year, when, in fact, he is.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LOLin my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

...and Phil Rivers is the #2 QB. ...and Eddie Royal is the #3 WR....and Santana Moss is the #4 WR.What's your point? It's early.

I'd say all three of those guys are breaking out....especially Royal.Isn't that what we are talking about? The OP says Bush isn't having a big year, when, in fact, he is.

I'd hate to see it when Reggie Bush really breaks outLOLHe's a WR, treat him as such

 

[runner06]

In my .5PPR league, he is currently the #1 fantasy RB. Not going to complain about that kind of fantasy production.

 

[KellysHeroes]

He's producing and its still early... ? Why be down on Bush at this point? Doesn't make sense? It's one thing to criticize his yards per carry but to question his production this year is ludicrous.

He's had decent production, just not as a RB. Although he is on pace to beat his previous season high in rushing. But then again, he only needs 600 yards to do that.Seriously though, it seems he has really stepped up his receiving skills as his YPR is almost double what it was last year. But the problem is that he supposedly worked all offseason to try to become a better inside runner and that, it would seem, is never going to happen.

Hes avg 150 yds of Offense in 2 games, thats a lot better than decent... sorry if you have a problem w/ NO listing him as an RB, just deal w/ it.

 

[switz]

He's a WR, treat him as such

Every time I see this... I think of two things1) The poster is really bitter because Bush just beat them in a PPR league2) Rod Bernstine was listed as a TE, but was used as an RB, and what an advantage it was to have him in my TE spot

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

At any rate, I think Bush converting to WR actually is better for NOR since they then wouldn't have wasted a top 3 pick on a RB.

 

[Short Corner]

LOLin my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

...and Phil Rivers is the #2 QB. ...and Eddie Royal is the #3 WR....and Santana Moss is the #4 WR.What's your point? It's early.

SO you are implying that Bush is a bust because he is the #1 back in the 2nd week?

 

[Bankerguy]

This is one of the reasons I am not a fan of PPR. Bush is a stud in that format, yet very ordinary in other fantasy formats and as an NFL back. Just my personal preference, as everyone is different.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I started the "SELL HIGH" thread on him this off-season. I still believe owners should do that if they can.

He's got some skills, but he's NOT a good featured RB. He's a below average runner from scrimmage. He may bring some value to his team, and he's still putting up fantasy numbers, but eventually, and probably SOON, New Orleans is going to have to feature a different runner on most downs. For everything Bush brings to the offense as a threat, he causes more harm as a complete LACK of a traditional running option on the early downs.

On the other hand, I'm not sure this was the right week to start crowing about it. He has at least FINALLY shown a bit of that "explosiveness" and "big-play ability" we've been hearing so much about (and which has NOT really materialized until now). And at RB #5/#6 in standard scoring, it's tough to make a fantasy case against him right now.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

This is one of the reasons I am not a fan of PPR. Bush is a stud in that format, yet very ordinary in other fantasy formats and as an NFL back. Just my personal preference, as everyone is different.

really? he's got 300+ total yards and 2 td's. That pretty good regardless of format in 2 games

 

[TheFanatic]

He's producing and its still early... ? Why be down on Bush at this point? Doesn't make sense? It's one thing to criticize his yards per carry but to question his production this year is ludicrous.

He's had decent production, just not as a RB. Although he is on pace to beat his previous season high in rushing. But then again, he only needs 600 yards to do that.Seriously though, it seems he has really stepped up his receiving skills as his YPR is almost double what it was last year. But the problem is that he supposedly worked all offseason to try to become a better inside runner and that, it would seem, is never going to happen.

I see your point ....But just to be fair though, Pierre Thomas in 4 less carries (Bush had 10) averaged 1.3 a carry (Bush 2.8). Maybe it has something to do with NO's offensive line? Maybe the Redskins are a decent run defensive team? We'll see...

Two of his carries were from the 1. Not like he can do much with that

 

[Short Corner]

I started the "SELL HIGH" thread on him this off-season. I still believe owners should do that if they can.He's got some skills, but he's NOT a good featured RB. He's a below average runner from scrimmage. He may bring some value to his team, and he's still putting up fantasy numbers, but eventually, and probably SOON, New Orleans is going to have to feature a different runner on most downs. For everything Bush brings to the offense as a threat, he causes more harm as a complete LACK of a traditional running option on the early downs.On the other hand, I'm not sure this was the right week to start crowing about it. He has at least FINALLY shown a bit of that "explosiveness" and "big-play ability" we've been hearing so much about (and which has NOT really materialized until now). And at RB #5/#6 in standard scoring, it's tough to make a fantasy case against him right now.

In that offense with that QB, who cares if he is the "featured back"? As long as he is lining up somewhere, anywhere, in the formation and getting touches he will be a valuable fantasy producer.

 

[millertyme1]

I'm in 1st place.

I own Reggie Bush.

I will update you every week as Reggie Bush leads my fantasy football team to victory in my PPR league.

I want to thank all my leaguemates for letting him fall to Round 2 of my fantasy football draft that was held on August 23, 2008.

 

[go jints]

I've seen every Saints game for the last several years. At this point I feel pretty certain that what you see is what you get from Reggie Bush. I sincerely doubt that we will see any big breakout from him at any point. He simply is not that good. He has poor vision, power, and patience which are all key ingredients to be able to successfully run the ball between the tackles. With that being said he is a dangerous weapon and from a fantasy perspective he is right around a top 10 RB in ppr leagues.

He is a good back but will never develop into a stud like Tiki Barber or Westbrooke did.

 

[millertyme1]

I'm in 1st place.I own Reggie Bush. I will update you every week as Reggie Bush leads my fantasy football team to victory in my PPR league.I want to thank all my leaguemates for letting him fall to Round 2 of my fantasy football draft that was held on August 23, 2008.

Update: I LOVE owning Reggie in my league.He's not available for trade. Thank you. P.S. I own Pierre Thomas too. He's not available either.

 

[TheFanatic]

LOLin my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

...and Phil Rivers is the #2 QB. ...and Eddie Royal is the #3 WR....and Santana Moss is the #4 WR.What's your point? It's early.

I'd say all three of those guys are breaking out....especially Royal.Isn't that what we are talking about? The OP says Bush isn't having a big year, when, in fact, he is.

I didn't say he wasn't having a big year. This was more of a shot at those people that think that Reggie is all of the sudden going to be a between the tackle runner and made predictions that this would be the year he breaks out as a RB (Switz, Blackjacks). In fact, he is breaking out. As a WR. Doubling his YPR is nice. But his YPC is 3.3 and he has a grand total of 79 yards on the ground over 2 games which puts him on pace for around 620 rushing yards. Seeing that he hasn't broken the 600 yard mark in any year that is an improvement. And to Switz' comments, I haven't played Reggie in any league yet this year. And I have no idea who that other guy is....

 

[Bankerguy]

This is one of the reasons I am not a fan of PPR. Bush is a stud in that format, yet very ordinary in other fantasy formats and as an NFL back. Just my personal preference, as everyone is different.

really? he's got 300+ total yards and 2 td's. That pretty good regardless of format in 2 games

Fair point.I guess I'm not a fan of awarding a point for a catch were he takes a 2 yard loss or even makes a short gain.Again, just my preference. I'm not trying to hi-jack the thread.

 

[Callas Disregard]

I started the "SELL HIGH" thread on him this off-season. I still believe owners should do that if they can.He's got some skills, but he's NOT a good featured RB. He's a below average runner from scrimmage. He may bring some value to his team, and he's still putting up fantasy numbers, but eventually, and probably SOON, New Orleans is going to have to feature a different runner on most downs. For everything Bush brings to the offense as a threat, he causes more harm as a complete LACK of a traditional running option on the early downs.On the other hand, I'm not sure this was the right week to start crowing about it. He has at least FINALLY shown a bit of that "explosiveness" and "big-play ability" we've been hearing so much about (and which has NOT really materialized until now). And at RB #5/#6 in standard scoring, it's tough to make a fantasy case against him right now.

Finally, a worthwhile post in this thread...I'm wondering myself if he is a sell high candidate. In my 0.5 PPR league, he is the #1 RB in the league. But a special teams TD is a fluke, and his other TD was also long-distance. I'm worried to see Pierre Thomas in the red zone, and Bush with a 3.3 YPC despite not getting goal line carries. I've got Chris Johnson sitting on my bench collecting dust and it seems like I could get a huge upgrade at QB or WR in return for the #1 RB in the league.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm in 1st place.I own Reggie Bush. I will update you every week as Reggie Bush leads my fantasy football team to victory in my PPR league.I want to thank all my leaguemates for letting him fall to Round 2 of my fantasy football draft that was held on August 23, 2008.

Dude, nobody cares what place you are in.

 

[Blackjacks]

How MJD doing Scotty?

You think he is a star and he has 5 rushes for 13 yards and 7 for 17 but 7 catches for 62 yards.

So my question is, Is MJD a wr also? (I guess just not as good as Bush)

Facts are Facts. He is the #3 rb in the league right now (Before Barber and Westy play tongiht so probably #5 after tonight)

I don't care if it's receiving, rushing , punt returns, I don't care if he lines up under center and passes td's as long as he gets my points I love me some Reggie.

 

[millertyme1]

top 10 5 RB in ppr leagues.

Fixed.Interesting fact: He's outscored the next high scoring RB by almost 10 points through 2 weeks.

 

[MarcO]

I'm in 1st place.I own Reggie Bush. I will update you every week as Reggie Bush leads my fantasy football team to victory in my PPR league.I want to thank all my leaguemates for letting him fall to Round 2 of my fantasy football draft that was held on August 23, 2008.

Bush is doing everything that I expected him to do when I drafted him ($48 compared to Westbrook at $81)- I really don't care if he runs for 100 or catches for 100 - I expected 60 or so yards on the ground, 60-80 through the air - that adds up 120-140 yards a game, 1800-2000 yards this year. I'd much rather have him than S-JAX this year and didn't have to pay RB1 type of money. Call him what you want - breakout or bust - I call him my RB2!

 

[Blackjacks]

LOL

in my PPR league he's the #1 RB pending tonights results

...and Phil Rivers is the #2 QB. ...and Eddie Royal is the #3 WR.

...and Santana Moss is the #4 WR.

What's your point? It's early.

I'd say all three of those guys are breaking out....especially Royal.Isn't that what we are talking about? The OP says Bush isn't having a big year, when, in fact, he is.

I didn't say he wasn't having a big year. This was more of a shot at those people that think that Reggie is all of the sudden going to be a between the tackle runner and made predictions that this would be the year he breaks out as a RB (Switz, Blackjacks). In fact, he is breaking out. As a WR. Doubling his YPR is nice. But his YPC is 3.3 and he has a grand total of 79 yards on the ground over 2 games which puts him on pace for around 620 rushing yards. Seeing that he hasn't broken the 600 yard mark in any year that is an improvement.

And to Switz' comments, I haven't played Reggie in any league yet this year. And I have no idea who that other guy is....

Please find where I said that

 

[millertyme1]

Call him what you want - breakout or bust - I call him my RB2!

 

[North]

He's producing and its still early... ? Why be down on Bush at this point? Doesn't make sense? It's one thing to criticize his yards per carry but to question his production this year is ludicrous.

Yeah why be down on him? He's doing exactly what I thought. If you want to criticize anyone, criticize Sean Peyton for taking him out when they still had the lead and needed a 1st down to run out the clock. I don't understand, it was 1st and 10 and Reggie gets you 5. Then on 2nd and 3rd down they bring in Thomas? Why not keep your most explosive player on the field. Once again too much thinking which cost a team a win.Then when they were down and needed a score Bush gets them to mid field and then Bress trys to make a throw he can't make and gets picked off. The Aints blew this game.+ he gets to play the 49ers, Falcons twice, the Chiefs and the Lions.

 

[TheFanatic]

How MJD doing Scotty?You think he is a star and he has 5 rushes for 13 yards and 7 for 17 but 7 catches for 62 yards.So my question is, Is MJD a wr also? (I guess just not as good as Bush)Facts are Facts. He is the #3 rb in the league right now (Before Barber and Westy play tongiht so probably #5 after tonight)I don't care if it's receiving, rushing , punt returns, I don't care if he lines up under center and passes td's as long as he gets my points I love me some Reggie.

Do you really want to take a shot at me. Remember you lost the sig bet that I have not made you comply with yet.MJD has other issues. Losing 3 linemen in a single game is not good.

 

[Christo]

This is one of the reasons I am not a fan of PPR. Bush is a stud in that format, yet very ordinary in other fantasy formats and as an NFL back. Just my personal preference, as everyone is different.

I only own him in a non-PPR league. Currently he's RB 5.

 

[StrikeS2k]

This is one of the reasons I am not a fan of PPR. Bush is a stud in that format, yet very ordinary in other fantasy formats and as an NFL back. Just my personal preference, as everyone is different.

I only own him in a non-PPR league. Currently he's RB 5.

Me too, although we give a 5 point bonus for 100 receiving yards so that helped in week one. But yeah, he's doing fine even in non PPR leagues. That may not hold up for the whole season but it's a little early to be busting on the guy. In what format ISN'T he having a good year?

 

[Chachi]

The Shark Pool has really been on a downswing lately. Thinking before starting new topics should be Rule #1

 

[Jason Wood]

Is this fishing?

He's the 5th ranked RB in NON PPR leagues right now:

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/player...cal-rb-2008.php

And he's tied for the 1st overall RB in PPR leagues.

How is that disappointing? Doesn't matter if he gets it through the air or on the ground, as long as he gets it.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Shark Pool has really been on a downswing lately. Thinking before starting new topics should be Rule #1

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