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I have a dynasty league draft today and was wondering about Dunlap. He hasn't played at all in the preseason and everything I read is that he won't be starting and only a situational pass rusher. I need someone to pair with Charles Johnson on my DL and I had targeted Dunlap for an early pick (not sure how long he will last especially if other managers are just looking at rankings - I know some will).

Just looking for an early season status. What's the latest on the knee injury?

 
Any other DL with sack upside that you would recommend? It's 8 pts per sack and 1 pt per tackle league

 
I have a dynasty league draft today and was wondering about Dunlap. He hasn't played at all in the preseason and everything I read is that he won't be starting and only a situational pass rusher. I need someone to pair with Charles Johnson on my DL and I had targeted Dunlap for an early pick (not sure how long he will last especially if other managers are just looking at rankings - I know some will).Just looking for an early season status. What's the latest on the knee injury?
I would not overpay for Dunlap at this point seeing that he will only rotate and teams could be running all over CIN this year. I highly doubt he repeats his 9 sack performance because he is not that mature, and doesnt shake off injuries very well. Similarly aged and probably much lower priced alternatives that play 3 downs and start for their teams are Derrick Morgan of TENN or Greg Hardy of CAR.I do believe Dunlap is the most talented, but that doesnt necessarily matter if he cannot unseat Geathers or Michael Johnson as a starter.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bengals/notes.htm

According to the link above

"DEFENSIVE LINEMEN: Starters — DLE Robert Geathers, NT Domata Peko, DT Geno Atkins, RDE Michael Johnson. Backups — DE Carlos Dunlap, DE Frostee Rucker, DE Jonathan Fanene, DT Pat Sims"
This could be as a result of his knee troubles, or it could be a sign of things to come this season. Any thoughts on how this news affects Dunlap, Michael Johnson, Geathers etc from an IDP standpoint.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bengals/notes.htm

According to the link above

"DEFENSIVE LINEMEN: Starters — DLE Robert Geathers, NT Domata Peko, DT Geno Atkins, RDE Michael Johnson. Backups — DE Carlos Dunlap, DE Frostee Rucker, DE Jonathan Fanene, DT Pat Sims"
This could be as a result of his knee troubles, or it could be a sign of things to come this season. Any thoughts on how this news affects Dunlap, Michael Johnson, Geathers etc from an IDP standpoint.
Its not a result of knee troubles, the coaches dont view him as a complete player, just a great rusher off the edge; if he improves in run support he would be a 3 down player as it is now he will rotate in
 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bengals/notes.htm

According to the link above

"DEFENSIVE LINEMEN: Starters — DLE Robert Geathers, NT Domata Peko, DT Geno Atkins, RDE Michael Johnson. Backups — DE Carlos Dunlap, DE Frostee Rucker, DE Jonathan Fanene, DT Pat Sims"
This could be as a result of his knee troubles, or it could be a sign of things to come this season. Any thoughts on how this news affects Dunlap, Michael Johnson, Geathers etc from an IDP standpoint.
Its not a result of knee troubles, the coaches dont view him as a complete player, just a great rusher off the edge; if he improves in run support he would be a 3 down player as it is now he will rotate in
Is Michael Johnson seen by the team as a complete player? He is listed as a starter, but most of the rankings including the DL re-draft ranks on this site list Dunlap higher. What tilts the ranking in favor of Dunlap?
 
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Its been that way (Johnson/Gaethers starters) since the first depth chart. I think it has more to do with Gaethers skill set than what Dunlap does or doesn't do against the run. Gaethers is an extremely 1 dimensional run stopper at DE and I do think it makes sense to use him on a good percentage of run downs. It is surprising to me though that they seem to value Johnson over Dunlap on run downs. Maybe they just feel more comfortable calling Johnson a starter than a banged up 2nd year player. It seems like those 2 will rotate on run downs and Gaethers comes out in most pass-rush situations.

IMO Dunlaps stats last year paint him as much more of a pass-rush specialist than he really is. The likely rotation probably hurts them all from a fantasy standpoint.

 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bengals/notes.htm

According to the link above

"DEFENSIVE LINEMEN: Starters — DLE Robert Geathers, NT Domata Peko, DT Geno Atkins, RDE Michael Johnson. Backups — DE Carlos Dunlap, DE Frostee Rucker, DE Jonathan Fanene, DT Pat Sims"
This could be as a result of his knee troubles, or it could be a sign of things to come this season. Any thoughts on how this news affects Dunlap, Michael Johnson, Geathers etc from an IDP standpoint.
Its not a result of knee troubles, the coaches dont view him as a complete player, just a great rusher off the edge; if he improves in run support he would be a 3 down player as it is now he will rotate in
Is Michael Johnson seen by the team as a complete player? He is listed as a starter, but most of the rankings including the DL re-draft ranks on this site list Dunlap higher. What tilts the ranking in favor of Dunlap?
I think M. Johnson is a more mature and complete player than Dunlap at this point = but Dunlap has that thing you cant teach, ferocious speed.
 
The coaches tell you what they think of their players in how they use them.

As we've seen with Rey Maualuga, though, who looks light years ahead of his 2010 performance despite not taking a single rep in the middle from December until training camp, the Bengals aren't always on the ball with those assessments. Robert Geathers, Michael Johnson, Keith Rivers and on and on.

I'm pretty sure we'll look back and add Carlos Dunlap to this list.

The Bengals are hinting that either (a) Dunlap can't play the run, (b) Dunlap can't play the run as well as Geathers or © Dunlap won't be as effective if he plays 800 snaps as if he plays 400. I like Geathers, but we're not talking about a quietly dominant run defender. We're not even talking about a solid base defender like Jamaal Anderson has grown into. I think all three explanations are suspect.

In Dunlap, we're talking about a 6-6, 285 pounder with an explosive first step who fell to the second round largely due to character concerns. Does he have issues with consistency against the run? Could he play with better pad level? Probably. But he's more than a rush end. And every snap that Geathers plays ahead of him is a snap he isn't potentially wreaking havoc in the backfield.

None of that matters for fantasy purposes of course. I'm still ranking and drafting him as a low level DE2 / DE3 with upside on the strength of my expectation that he'll eventually get a chance to play some base snaps and the strong effort he's already shown against very tough pass rushing matchups. From a dynasty perspective, he continues to have elite DE1 upside.

 

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