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[ROCKET]

No problems yet with my 2015 Tahoe (only 5K miles) but it's been sitting in the garage since November. Can't wait til April/ May to take it out for a tour.

I'd be leery of a vehicle with that history. The 2015's have only been out for 7-8 months so finding used this soon might be a little tough.

 

[JaxBill]

No problems yet with my 2015 Tahoe (only 5K miles) but it's been sitting in the garage since November. Can't wait til April/ May to take it out for a tour.

So you have a truck that you don't want to take out in winter weather? What are you driving instead?

 

[RUSF18]

Don't think he's answered yet what price the 10K under is off of. Which makes me think sticker. Which means definitely find another car.

 

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Here are the applicable warranties:
Bumper to Bumper Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2017 36,021 MI
Corrosion Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2020 100,021 MI
Powertrain Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2019 100,021 MI
Emission Select Component Ltd Wty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2022 80,021 MI
Emission Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2017 50,021 MI
Emission Select State Component Ltd Wty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2021 70,021 MI
GMC 2 Year Scheduled Maintenance 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2016 24,021 MI

THAT makes me worry about a vehicle that appears to already be having electrical issues of some form or fashion.

It will extend a year for the CPO

Miles extending out too? How many miles you putting on it a year, you think? You're sitting on ~3yrs / 23k warranty right now if the mileage isn't bumped up too, right?

Just went through the used car buying process myself for a somewhat hard to find vehicle. It's definitely not easy to not get attached to a cream puff and look past risky stuff. Be careful, though.

 

[chet]

Don't think he's answered yet what price the 10K under is off of. Which makes me think sticker. Which means definitely find another car.

Yeah, Oats needs a lesson in car buying. Answer the questions, Oats.

 

[belljr]

This is blasphemy in my world but just test drove a ridgeline and that little thing was nice

 

[Otis]

Here are the applicable warranties:
Bumper to Bumper Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2017 36,021 MI
Corrosion Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2020 100,021 MI
Powertrain Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2019 100,021 MI
Emission Select Component Ltd Wty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2022 80,021 MI
Emission Limited Warranty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2017 50,021 MI
Emission Select State Component Ltd Wty 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2021 70,021 MI
GMC 2 Year Scheduled Maintenance 05/19/2014 21 MI 05/19/2016 24,021 MI

THAT makes me worry about a vehicle that appears to already be having electrical issues of some form or fashion.

It will extend a year for the CPO

Miles extending out too? How many miles you putting on it a year, you think? You're sitting on ~3yrs / 23k warranty right now if the mileage isn't bumped up too, right?

Just went through the used car buying process myself for a somewhat hard to find vehicle. It's definitely not easy to not get attached to a cream puff and look past risky stuff. Be careful, though.

"Every Certified Pre-Owned Vehicle comes equipped with our impressive 12-Month/12,000-Mile[SIZE=14.25px]1[/SIZE]Bumper-to-Bumper Limited Warranty and a transferable 5-Year/100,000-Mile[SIZE=14.25px]2[/SIZE] Powertrain Limited Warranty."

So I get that on top of whatever I have remaining on the original warranty.

The good news, and the main reason we want to buy, is we don't put a ton of miles on the car. It's my wife's for local in-town driving, seeing family, on occasion a few hour drive to see her family. On the leased car she is averaging under 8k miles/year, and in the first couple of years of that we lived in a more remote town and it was our only car. I suspect we'll end up putting like 7k miles/year on it.

CPO includes all sorts of maintanance for two years and other perks.

I called and talked it through with the dealer again. (He already has a deposit from us, but refundable). He pulled up and read through the same maintanance history that snellman informed me about in here, and had basically the same reaction as snellman, which was "this is all really minor ticky tack stuff and consistent with a new model year redesign, no big issues here." Obviously he is incentivized to say that, but the fact that snellman had said the same to me earlier today made me feel good. The salesman didn't hide anything.

Bottom line, on balance, probably mostly due to laziness, I think I'm going to move forward. I have to leave for a three week business trip this weekend, and we put enough time already into this whole thing, that I just don't feel like investing more. It's the perfect car for us, and I could probably save a couple grand more if I work hard enough, but it's not worth it to me. So long as it's not a lemon, I think we're good.

Thx for the feedback.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I thought this thread was about ducks.

See carnard is French for...oh never mind.

 

[Otis]

By the way, moops is gonna be SO mad when he finds out about me barreling around town in a 420hp truck.

 

[chet]

By the way, moops is gonna be SO mad when he finds out about me barreling around town in a 420hp truck.

Stop daydreaming and answer the question I posed this am.

 

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Well if the used car dealer trying to sell a used car says the issues on the carfax are no big deal, I don't see any reason not to take him at his word.

 

[scorchy]

We'll end up having something like a 4 year bumper to bumper with the CPO. As though it were a brand new car basically. We're saving about 10k off sticker.

Seriously? 30 seconds on truecar gets you $5k knocked off the $70k sticker of a new Denali. So all you're saving is an additional $5k on a used car with a year's worth of miles and a weird history? Sounds like a wise choice.

 

[bushdocda]

Has the Carfox stopped in yet?

Sounds odd to buy a car that new with all that going on. I'd look some more.

 

[Johnny Rock]

We'll end up having something like a 4 year bumper to bumper with the CPO. As though it were a brand new car basically. We're saving about 10k off sticker.

Seriously? 30 seconds on truecar gets you $5k knocked off the $70k sticker of a new Denali. So all you're saving is an additional $5k on a used car with a year's worth of miles and a weird history? Sounds like a wise choice.

This, plus I think you'll regret not getting the XL. Drop this used Denali, save the extra coin and get better mileage with a new XL SLT with some added options. The Denali is just not worth the extra cash IMO, let alone a used one with all this bs history and high used price.

 

[ROCKET]

No problems yet with my 2015 Tahoe (only 5K miles) but it's been sitting in the garage since November. Can't wait til April/ May to take it out for a tour.

So you have a truck that you don't want to take out in winter weather? What are you driving instead?

Me, 2000 GMC pickup which was garaged every winter til 3 years ago (only has 90K miles),, wife drives our 2008 Acura MDX to work.

The Tahoe we use from end of April- November. I'm pretty good at taking care of vehicles, keeping mileage down and having them look close to new after 10 years or so. We always have a primary vehicle for winter/work and then another vehicle which we use for mostly kids sports, vacations, summer use etc. The winters here in New England are brutal on vehicles.

The Tahoe is half paid as I needed a tax deduction last year and could write off the whole 25K I put down. I have a lot of friends who spend 50K on a F350 for work and it's trashed in 5 years. Crazy IMO. To each his own I guess.

 

[ROCKET]

We'll end up having something like a 4 year bumper to bumper with the CPO. As though it were a brand new car basically. We're saving about 10k off sticker.

Seriously? 30 seconds on truecar gets you $5k knocked off the $70k sticker of a new Denali. So all you're saving is an additional $5k on a used car with a year's worth of miles and a weird history? Sounds like a wise choice.

This, plus I think you'll regret not getting the XL.

Drop this used Denali, save the extra coin and get better mileage with a new XL SLT with some added options

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I paid 52K for my Tahoe LT. The LTZ is 15-20K more. Same for the Denali as opposed to XL SLT. I don't see the need for all the other bells and whistles unless you have money to burn but everyone has their own budget on what they want to spend. I was maxed out at the 50K range and wanted something brand new for the tax deduction. I have a friend with a 2015 Escalade, almost 90K. Beautiful car but that's an insane amount of money to me.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Don't think he's answered yet what price the 10K under is off of. Which makes me think sticker. Which means definitely find another car.

Yeah, Oats needs a lesson in car buying. Answer the questions, Oats.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

We'll end up having something like a 4 year bumper to bumper with the CPO. As though it were a brand new car basically. We're saving about 10k off sticker.

Seriously? 30 seconds on truecar gets you $5k knocked off the $70k sticker of a new Denali. So all you're saving is an additional $5k on a used car with a year's worth of miles and a weird history? Sounds like a wise choice.

 

[chet]

Buying a used car

 

[chet]

We'll end up having something like a 4 year bumper to bumper with the CPO. As though it were a brand new car basically. We're saving about 10k off sticker.

Seriously? 30 seconds on truecar gets you $5k knocked off the $70k sticker of a new Denali. So all you're saving is an additional $5k on a used car with a year's worth of miles and a weird history? Sounds like a wise choice.

Exactly. This was my point on page 1 but Oats is still daydreaming.

 

[Otis]

We'll end up having something like a 4 year bumper to bumper with the CPO. As though it were a brand new car basically. We're saving about 10k off sticker.

Seriously? 30 seconds on truecar gets you $5k knocked off the $70k sticker of a new Denali. So all you're saving is an additional $5k on a used car with a year's worth of miles and a weird history? Sounds like a wise choice.

This, plus I think you'll regret not getting the XL. Drop this used Denali, save the extra coin and get better mileage with a new XL SLT with some added options. The Denali is just not worth the extra cash IMO, let alone a used one with all this bs history and high used price.

We've looked at the XL a bunch and the wife's feeling, which makes some sense, is that it's s little overkill with just two kids. We figure we can do a trade in a few years if we outgrow the base size.

 

[Otis]

We'll end up having something like a 4 year bumper to bumper with the CPO. As though it were a brand new car basically. We're saving about 10k off sticker.

Seriously? 30 seconds on truecar gets you $5k knocked off the $70k sticker of a new Denali. So all you're saving is an additional $5k on a used car with a year's worth of miles and a weird history? Sounds like a wise choice.

Exactly. This was my point on page 1 but Oats is still daydreaming.

So how much should I pay for it?

 

[Otis]

One other point:

This is the only car we have found within 100 miles of our house. We require second row captains seats, not a bench, and it's really hard to fine one with that configuration and the other features we need. So we have a limited set to work with here.

That said, I'm wondering if we should just buy new. We'll eat 10k but as Chet says maybe really only 5k. In that case maybe we are safer going new.

 

[Otis]

chet, for what it's worth, I just looked it up on truecar and with the equipment in the one we are buying they sell new on average for $71,400. Not sure what data you're using. So my 62k price is 10k off of that average new price.

I'm not concerned about not getting the best possible price. Price feels about right. I'm more concerned about (1) whether there is anything significant on the carfax (some here in the know have said there is not) and (2) whether in any event we should be eating the value and buying new instead. So I'm really down to this car vs. a new one.

 

[Spin]

So how much should I pay for it?

I guessed at options, but this is a great starting point.

 

[Otis]

So how much should I pay for it?

I guessed at options, but this is a great starting point.

That's exactly what our 10k savings is coming off of.

 

[Spin]

So how much should I pay for it?

I guessed at options, but this is a great starting point.

That's exactly what our 10k savings is coming off of.

Go for it. I drove a rental for 10 days while my car was in the shop and loved it.

 

[Otis]

Chet playing the part of a second rate Dentist in here.

 

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Call every dealership in the northeast and ask to speak to the fleet manager. tell them the first dealer to offer a Denali with x Config at $66k (delivered to you) has s sale. Leave your number and hang up. Someone will call you.

If you want to spend a little more time, call and ask to speak to fleet manager. Leave your email and say you're not negotiating, you're calling 10 dealers and will buy from the one with the best price on X configuration. Please email your bottom dollar bid to email by x date. Hang up.

 

[Dentist]

Otis, you won't be respected for this purchase at the law firm or by your home owner's association, nor will the car impress when you drive the kids to little league.

I really think you ought to shoot the lock off your wallet and get the Escalade.

 

[Otis]

Otis, you won't be respected for this purchase at the law firm or by your home owner's association, nor will the car impress when you drive the kids to little league.

I really think you ought to shoot the lock off your wallet and get the Escalade.

Exactly why I wanted the Chevy version. Even LESS "trying too hard" factor. The GMC is a fine compromise.

I'd rather die than spend 90 grand on an Escalade.

 

[chet]

chet, for what it's worth, I just looked it up on truecar and with the equipment in the one we are buying they sell new on average for $71,400. Not sure what data you're using. So my 62k price is 10k off of that average new price.

I'm not concerned about not getting the best possible price. Price feels about right. I'm more concerned about (1) whether there is anything significant on the carfax (some here in the know have said there is not) and (2) whether in any event we should be eating the value and buying new instead. So I'm really down to this car vs. a new one.

For me, there are enough questions about the used one so if the choice is between new and that one, I'd go new. I also don't think 10K off is enough for a used car with 10k+ miles and 1 year of use.

Chet playing the part of a second rate Dentist in here.

 

[Otis]

chet, for what it's worth, I just looked it up on truecar and with the equipment in the one we are buying they sell new on average for $71,400. Not sure what data you're using. So my 62k price is 10k off of that average new price.

I'm not concerned about not getting the best possible price. Price feels about right. I'm more concerned about (1) whether there is anything significant on the carfax (some here in the know have said there is not) and (2) whether in any event we should be eating the value and buying new instead. So I'm really down to this car vs. a new one.

For me, there are enough questions about the used one so if the choice is between new and that one, I'd go new. I also don't think 10K off is enough for a used car with 10k+ miles and 1 year of use.

Chet playing the part of a second rate Dentist in here.

 

[Dentist]

Otis, you won't be respected for this purchase at the law firm or by your home owner's association, nor will the car impress when you drive the kids to little league.

I really think you ought to shoot the lock off your wallet and get the Escalade.

Exactly why I wanted the Chevy version. Even LESS "trying too hard" factor. The GMC is a fine compromise.

I'd rather die than spend 90 grand on an Escalade.

Baloney. You know you need that Escalade. Deep down inside you know you won't really be satisfied with a GMC... it's too middle class...

The fact you are even bothering looking at a US made vehicle instead of something like a Toyota Sequoia or a Land Cruiser or something is shocking.

Do you want your children thinking you're impoverished?

 

[JaxBill]

FYP

Otis, you won't be respected for this purchase at the law firm or by your home owner's association, nor will the car impress when you drive the kids to little league.

I really think you ought to shoot the lock off your wallet and get the Escalade.

Exactly why I wanted the Chevy version. Even LESS "trying too hard" factor. The GMC is a fine compromise.

I'd rather die than spend 90 grand on an Escalade.

Baloney. You know you need that Escalade. Deep down inside you know you won't really be satisfied with a GMC... it's too bourgeois...

 

[Otis]

This is a new look Otis. I am the everyman.

 

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This is a new look Otis. I am the everyman.

 

[RUSF18]

One other point:

This is the only car we have found within 100 miles of our house. We require second row captains seats, not a bench, and it's really hard to fine one with that configuration and the other features we need. So we have a limited set to work with here.

That said, I'm wondering if we should just buy new. We'll eat 10k but as Chet says maybe really only 5k. In that case maybe we are safer going new.

It's limited and the only car within 100 miles because you're looking for a used car of a 2015 model. If you went to 2014, you'd have many more choices.

 

[Brony]

I thought this thread was about ducks.

See carnard is French for...oh never mind.

I heard a rumor that this wasn't true.