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I get a kick out of the times guys like you and Hooper pretend to be less pathetic than ITS.
if you have something specific to say to me, just do it. I'm a big boy and can address anything I've posted. If you want to make broad generalizations about me based on something posted by someone else you're wasting your time.

 
Tanner9919 said:
Sherman will cover Gronk.book it.Pats WRs dont do things on the outsides, its all inside out..they can cover Edelman and Amendola with CBs one on one. this offense isnt scary.Watch what the Jets do to them..you simply have to tackle well.

Brady cant throw the deep ball as well as he used to, so you can cheat safeties up near the line.LaFell doesnt scare anyone.

attack Brady he gets happy feet and throws the ball at WRs feet..
yeah, no.

 
proninja said:
Tanner9919 said:
Sherman will cover Gronk.book it.Pats WRs dont do things on the outsides, its all inside out..they can cover Edelman and Amendola with CBs one on one. this offense isnt scary.Watch what the Jets do to them..you simply have to tackle well.

Brady cant throw the deep ball as well as he used to, so you can cheat safeties up near the line.LaFell doesnt scare anyone.

attack Brady he gets happy feet and throws the ball at WRs feet..
yeah, no.
What do you figure his first language is?
Bourbon?

 
Covering Gronkowski presents a sizable challenge for Seattle

Published: January 23, 2015 05:14 PM

By Tim Britton

FOXBORO — Maybe it wasn’t so crazy for Jeremy Lane to call out Rob Gronkowski this week; after all, Lane won’t bear much of the responsibility for guarding New England’s star tight end.

On Thursday, Lane said of Gronkowski, “I actually don’t think he’s that good. He’s OK; he does have a big body. But from what I’ve seen on tape, he doesn’t like you putting your hands on him. So if we put our hands on him and shake him up a little bit, he won’t catch that many balls.”

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“Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion,” Gronkowski said. “I just keep doing what I’ve got to do. I’ve just got to keep getting ready. It’s not just one player on their defense; there are 11 guys out there.”

If there is anyone on the New England offense who will be fully aware of all 11 Seahawk defenders, it will be Gronkowski. If Seattle covers Gronkowski the same way it has attempted to cover other star tight ends, he will see an array of different looks — though he shouldn’t expect many matchups with nickelback Lane in the slot.

To determine how the Seahawks would go about defending Gronkowski, we looked at a half-dozen Seattle games over the past two seasons: two 2013 meetings with Jimmy Graham and the Saints, two 2014 encounters with Vernon Davis and the 49ers, and 2014 games against San Diego’s Antonio Gates and Denver’s Julius Thomas.

Seattle held those tight ends down in five of those games, but Gates crushed them in the Chargers’ Week Two victory over the Seahawks. Gates was more productive in that one game than the other tight ends were in their combined five, recording seven catches for 96 yards and three touchdowns. (The other tight ends combined for 11 receptions for 96 yards and two touchdowns.)

Overall, Seattle allowed the fifth-fewest yards to tight ends in the NFL this season. The Seahawks did, however, allow the third-most touchdowns, as 11 of the 17 passing touchdowns they permitted this year were by tight ends.

Seattle didn’t do anything drastically different in any of those games we studied, even though those tight ends possess different skills. The Seahawks will play plenty of zone across the middle of the field, trusting their linebackers to competently pass Gronkowski off on his short crossing routes and to make quick tackles to limit big gains.

For the most part, the Seahawks don’t alter their secondary assignments because of the presence of a strong tight end. For the most part, Richard Sherman’s going to line up on the offense’s right side, taking whichever receiver is farthest to that side. For the most part, Byron Maxwell will do the same on the left side, and for the most part, Seattle is fine with linebackers — especially K.J. Wright — handling tight ends in one-on-one coverage.

Of course, there’s a reason that’s all qualified with “for the most part.” There were occasional instances — we counted one against Graham in last year’s divisional round and one against Thomas in this year’s regular season — where Sherman abandoned his traditional post and moved inside for a one-on-one matchup with the tight end coming off the line. (To be clear, there are plenty of other occasions where Sherman matched up with tight ends either split out wide right or when no receiver flanked them on the right.)

The same occurred once with Maxwell against Gates.

But the player Gronkowski should expect to see the most in man-to-man situations is Seattle’s freakishly athletic safety Kam Chancellor. If these prior games are any indication, Chancellor and Gronkowski will line up opposite each other six to 10 times in Sunday’s game — plays for which everybody should have their proverbial popcorn ready. Each possessing seemingly unfair combinations of size and speed, the two might be the most physically impressive athletes in the NFL today.

The Seahawks will also throw some unorthodox looks at the Patriots, as they’ll occasionally drop a defensive lineman into the zone coverage to help bracket a receiver in the middle of the field. One thing Seattle doesn’t typically do is have its nickel and dime corners defend tight ends in the slot or off the line; it only showed that look against Graham, who can’t really be honored as a run blocker.

It’s interesting that Gates was the tight end with the most success against Seattle. Davis (four catches for 29 yards in two games) had a down season, and Seattle is especially familiar with him in the NFC West. Graham (four catches, 50 yards, one touchdown in two games) and Thomas (three catches, 17 yards, one touchdown) are both pass-catchers who add little in the running game; indeed, their absence from the field is a pretty good indicator their offense is planning to keep it on the ground.

Gates, on the other hand, is at least a passable blocker in the running game. He isn’t the force that Gronkowski can be, and at his age he isn’t an every-down tight end the way Gronkowski is. Nevertheless, he’s more of a dual threat than some other highly regarded tight ends, and he showed why in that game against the Seahawks.

Gates’ three touchdowns came against three different Seahawks. On a third-and-goal from the eight, he beat Chancellor on a mini wheel route for a score. On another third-and-goal from the eight, he beat last year’s Super Bowl MVP, linebacker Malcolm Smith, improvising off a similar route when Philip Rivers scrambled; Gates’ initial route was stymied only by a declined holding penalty on Smith, by the way.

On Gates’ third touchdown, he got a step on Wright in the slot and made a ludicrous one-handed catch just before Chancellor could get over from his safety spot. There’s no real coverage for a play like that.

Gronkowski is fully healthy for this Super Bowl, compared to the high ankle sprain he played with in Super Bowl XLVI or the maladies that have cost him in the last two postseasons. That’s probably the biggest difference between the Patriots teams that have come up shy these last few years and the one that hopes to finish the season with a win in Super Bowl XLIX.

“We just want to go out in this game and play like we’ve been playing throughout the playoffs and be on the field at all times. I’m super excited about that situation and that opportunity coming up,” Gronkowski said. “I can’t wait. I can’t wait.”
 
Probably posted somewhere but putting it in here. Sherman making a good point.
Why would anyone want to hear the league commish speak publicly each week? Most of us spend our lives listening to middle aged stuffed shirt lawyerly typed blabbering. The NFL exists so we can be entertained by stars, head coaches, and media guys. There's no demand to hear the musings of NFL execs, LB coaches, punters, referees, and groundskeepers. The act of entertaining in the media room isn't part of what those guys are paid for.But Sherm isn't exactly known for hitting the nail on the head in his soundbytes. He's known for stirring illogical controversy, which is part of why he's paid like a star. :shrug:

 
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Probably posted somewhere but putting it in here. Sherman making a good point.
Why would anyone want to hear the league commish speak publicly each week? Most of us spend our lives listening to middle aged stuffed shirt lawyerly typed blabbering. The NFL exists so we can be entertained by stars, head coaches, and media guys. There's no demand to hear the musings of NFL execs, LB coaches, punters, referees, and groundskeepers. The act of entertaining in the media room isn't part of what those guys are paid for.But Sherm isn't exactly known for hitting the nail on the head in his soundbytes. He's known for stirring illogical controversy, which is part of why he's paid like a star. :shrug:
I actually would rather hear what a lot of these guys are saying than the large majority of players the media interviews.

 
Probably posted somewhere but putting it in here. Sherman making a good point.
Why would anyone want to hear the league commish speak publicly each week? Most of us spend our lives listening to middle aged stuffed shirt lawyerly typed blabbering. The NFL exists so we can be entertained by stars, head coaches, and media guys. There's no demand to hear the musings of NFL execs, LB coaches, punters, referees, and groundskeepers. The act of entertaining in the media room isn't part of what those guys are paid for.But Sherm isn't exactly known for hitting the nail on the head in his soundbytes. He's known for stirring illogical controversy, which is part of why he's paid like a star. :shrug:
Actually I'd love to have reporters get the chance to question Goodell. The speeches he gives are well prepared with specific language--I'd love to have him on the spot and have to answer for Ray Rice, etc. with the questions reporters would hang on him.

I want to see his squirm a bit.

 
Probably posted somewhere but putting it in here. Sherman making a good point.
Why would anyone want to hear the league commish speak publicly each week? Most of us spend our lives listening to middle aged stuffed shirt lawyerly typed blabbering. The NFL exists so we can be entertained by stars, head coaches, and media guys. There's no demand to hear the musings of NFL execs, LB coaches, punters, referees, and groundskeepers. The act of entertaining in the media room isn't part of what those guys are paid for.But Sherm isn't exactly known for hitting the nail on the head in his soundbytes. He's known for stirring illogical controversy, which is part of why he's paid like a star. :shrug:
Actually I'd love to have reporters get the chance to question Goodell. The speeches he gives are well prepared with specific language--I'd love to have him on the spot and have to answer for Ray Rice, etc. with the questions reporters would hang on him.

I want to see his squirm a bit.
A few years ago, Seattle season ticket holders got a chance to do a conference call with Goodell where calls got to ask him approved questions. I believe it was right after the last lockout. It was really interesting to hear Goodell try to answer legit concerns that the fans had, he was squirming pretty good on a number of questions. Just imagine if this type of stuff happened, and the questions didn't have to be vetted first, and Goodell had to actually face the music once in a while? Who the hell wouldn't want that?

 
Probably posted somewhere but putting it in here. Sherman making a good point.
Why would anyone want to hear the league commish speak publicly each week? Most of us spend our lives listening to middle aged stuffed shirt lawyerly typed blabbering. The NFL exists so we can be entertained by stars, head coaches, and media guys. There's no demand to hear the musings of NFL execs, LB coaches, punters, referees, and groundskeepers. The act of entertaining in the media room isn't part of what those guys are paid for.But Sherm isn't exactly known for hitting the nail on the head in his soundbytes. He's known for stirring illogical controversy, which is part of why he's paid like a star. :shrug:
I think there would be a lot of great questions to ask him pretty much every week. Guy gets paid like the best QB in the league, makes up rules as he goes, tells players they need to talk. Seems fair for a player to bring that up.

Sherman as usual bring something to an interview more than the typical "team x is a great team, I'm just living in the moment, happy to be here" etc.

 
proninja said:
Between the reactions to Sherman and Lynch, I've learned that fans really like mindless cliché.
Put me in the category that likes players who make the game interesting. These guys make up for their ridiculous credit-to-God QB.

 
Well, here it is. I've made a 180 on Sherman. While he is brash and overstates his abilities at times, he is a tremendous player and I appreciate his honesty. I like to hear him call out the league. I like to hear him call out players like Brady.

He is a very intelligent guy and I appreciate that.

On the whole, I've also come around on the entire Seahawks team. I think Wilson is a perfect fit for the Seahawks today. I still don't think he's a top 10 QB, he does a terrific job doing what he's asked to do.

I love me some Chancellor and I see him as a bigger and more talented Bob Sanders.

Finally, Lynch is one of the best ever. I love his game and his personality. I could stand less of his crotch grabbing, but you take the good with the bad. He's a mad dude and I respect him standing up to the league.

So, there you have it Seahawks fans! I'm betting the Hawks in Vegas tomorrow. Too much defense for Brady. Hawks win a low scoring affair 23-13. Good luck!

 
Well, here it is. I've made a 180 on Sherman. While he is brash and overstates his abilities at times, he is a tremendous player and I appreciate his honesty. I like to hear him call out the league. I like to hear him call out players like Brady.

He is a very intelligent guy and I appreciate that.

On the whole, I've also come around on the entire Seahawks team. I think Wilson is a perfect fit for the Seahawks today. I still don't think he's a top 10 QB, he does a terrific job doing what he's asked to do.

I love me some Chancellor and I see him as a bigger and more talented Bob Sanders.

Finally, Lynch is one of the best ever. I love his game and his personality. I could stand less of his crotch grabbing, but you take the good with the bad. He's a mad dude and I respect him standing up to the league.

So, there you have it Seahawks fans! I'm betting the Hawks in Vegas tomorrow. Too much defense for Brady. Hawks win a low scoring affair 23-13. Good luck!
Thanks for jumping aboard. I find most Indy fans have that view. I'm not really sure why?

 
Chaz McNulty said:
pizzatyme said:
Well, here it is. I've made a 180 on Sherman. While he is brash and overstates his abilities at times, he is a tremendous player and I appreciate his honesty. I like to hear him call out the league. I like to hear him call out players like Brady.

He is a very intelligent guy and I appreciate that.

On the whole, I've also come around on the entire Seahawks team. I think Wilson is a perfect fit for the Seahawks today. I still don't think he's a top 10 QB, he does a terrific job doing what he's asked to do.

I love me some Chancellor and I see him as a bigger and more talented Bob Sanders.

Finally, Lynch is one of the best ever. I love his game and his personality. I could stand less of his crotch grabbing, but you take the good with the bad. He's a mad dude and I respect him standing up to the league.

So, there you have it Seahawks fans! I'm betting the Hawks in Vegas tomorrow. Too much defense for Brady. Hawks win a low scoring affair 23-13. Good luck!
Thanks for jumping aboard. I find most Indy fans have that view. I'm not really sure why?
I think it remains to be seen what he's do without the great team around him. I think that's fair. It's the same question that is asked about Manning. What would he have been without the great offensive weapons around him? I'm not trying to dis Russ in any way. Like I said, he's great. He also has great flashes. Just one man's opinion.

 
Probably posted somewhere but putting it in here. Sherman making a good point.
I doubt you need to talk to anybody if you play in the cfl

I'm not just calling sherman and lynch childish as some put down, but those 2 guys really remind me of what it was like when I was maybe 8 yrs old, give or take a couple years

do you honestly know any grown adults that act like this?
Only thing even remotely interesting about this week was Lynch and Sherman. Kill me now if I have to listen to another Brady interview, like watching paint dry.

 
Probably posted somewhere but putting it in here. Sherman making a good point.
I doubt you need to talk to anybody if you play in the cfl

I'm not just calling sherman and lynch childish as some put down, but those 2 guys really remind me of what it was like when I was maybe 8 yrs old, give or take a couple years

do you honestly know any grown adults that act like this?
Only thing even remotely interesting about this week was Lynch and Sherman. Kill me now if I have to listen to another Brady interview, like watching paint dry.
Slight edit to your post

 
pizzatyme said:
Well, here it is. I've made a 180 on Sherman. While he is brash and overstates his abilities at times, he is a tremendous player and I appreciate his honesty. I like to hear him call out the league. I like to hear him call out players like Brady.

He is a very intelligent guy and I appreciate that.

On the whole, I've also come around on the entire Seahawks team. I think Wilson is a perfect fit for the Seahawks today. I still don't think he's a top 10 QB, he does a terrific job doing what he's asked to do.

I love me some Chancellor and I see him as a bigger and more talented Bob Sanders.

Finally, Lynch is one of the best ever. I love his game and his personality. I could stand less of his crotch grabbing, but you take the good with the bad. He's a mad dude and I respect him standing up to the league.

So, there you have it Seahawks fans! I'm betting the Hawks in Vegas tomorrow. Too much defense for Brady. Hawks win a low scoring affair 23-13. Good luck!
Holy crap. I have to admit I'm a little more than surprised to read this. p-tyme ragged on Seattle non-stop through the playoffs last year. Kudos you dude for having an open mind.

 
pizzatyme said:
Well, here it is. I've made a 180 on Sherman. While he is brash and overstates his abilities at times, he is a tremendous player and I appreciate his honesty. I like to hear him call out the league. I like to hear him call out players like Brady.

He is a very intelligent guy and I appreciate that.

On the whole, I've also come around on the entire Seahawks team. I think Wilson is a perfect fit for the Seahawks today. I still don't think he's a top 10 QB, he does a terrific job doing what he's asked to do.

I love me some Chancellor and I see him as a bigger and more talented Bob Sanders.

Finally, Lynch is one of the best ever. I love his game and his personality. I could stand less of his crotch grabbing, but you take the good with the bad. He's a mad dude and I respect him standing up to the league.

So, there you have it Seahawks fans! I'm betting the Hawks in Vegas tomorrow. Too much defense for Brady. Hawks win a low scoring affair 23-13. Good luck!
Mind blown!

Nice to have you join our side for the game. :thumbup:

 
Rotoworld:

Seahawks LCB Richard Sherman played through torn elbow ligaments in Super Bowl XLIX, and will "likely" need offseason surgery.

The surgery would be "Tommy John," best known in baseball lingo. The procedure reconstructs a player's UCL (ulnar collateral ligament) using a tendon from another body part. Sherman played through torn ligaments in his left elbow in addition to ligament damage in his left shoulder. He allowed just one reception in the Seahawks' Super Bowl loss to the Patriots.

Source: ESPN.com
Feb 2 - 12:43 AM
 
BusterTBronco said:
So many broken hearts in here right now. It's pretty funny from my side even if the Seahawks are losing. We're so inside your heads it's pretty great...
Sherman is easy to hate. He's loud and he's brash and he's arrogant. And he was great. This year, he's been exposed and is not playing at near the level as in past years. With a personality like his, it's human nature to enjoy watching quarterbacks pick on him. Wouldn't matter if he were on the Seahawks or not.
 
BusterTBronco said:
So many broken hearts in here right now. It's pretty funny from my side even if the Seahawks are losing. We're so inside your heads it's pretty great...
Sherman is easy to hate. He's loud and he's brash and he's arrogant. And he was great. This year, he's been exposed and is not playing at near the level as in past years. With a personality like his, it's human nature to enjoy watching quarterbacks pick on him. Wouldn't matter if he were on the Seahawks or not.
:goodposting:

 
I've always found Sherman pretty funny.

He's been bad this year, though. So has the entire secondary. Lots of blown assignments which is odd for guys playing the same system for so long.

 
I've always found Sherman pretty funny.

He's been bad this year, though. So has the entire secondary. Lots of blown assignments which is odd for guys playing the same system for so long.
Same system, but different coordinator. I can't help but think that this has something to do with it. Perhaps I'm just grasping at straws in some sad attempt to try and rationalize it, but I can't think of any better reason.

 
I've always found Sherman pretty funny.

He's been bad this year, though. So has the entire secondary. Lots of blown assignments which is odd for guys playing the same system for so long.
Same system, but different coordinator. I can't help but think that this has something to do with it. Perhaps I'm just grasping at straws in some sad attempt to try and rationalize it, but I can't think of any better reason.
Maybe the league has finally caught up to their scheme like they did others before... Tampa 2, ect. It happens.

 
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BusterTBronco said:
So many broken hearts in here right now. It's pretty funny from my side even if the Seahawks are losing. We're so inside your heads it's pretty great...
You're in their heads and losing...ok? Good for you? Seems like I'd want to be focused on the winning part, but perhaps it's more important to be in their heads?

 
It's hard to deny the fact that he DID shut down Antonio Brown. And that the Hawks won. It's easy to hate on Sherman because he's outspoken, but let's at least see that he's responding to a direct criticism of his own ability to cover a guy like Brown.
I don't hate Sherman. Hawks won because of Wilson's play IMO.

 
It's hard to deny the fact that he DID shut down Antonio Brown. And that the Hawks won. It's easy to hate on Sherman because he's outspoken, but let's at least see that he's responding to a direct criticism of his own ability to cover a guy like Brown.
I don't hate Sherman. Hawks won because of Wilson's play IMO.
Agreed this was heavily on Wilson, but did we really just do this?

2012-2014: He isn't a true elite CB because he doesn't follow the #1 WR and only plays his side (a team player)

2015: He isn't a team player because all he did was shut down the #1 WR when following him around the field.

He can't be both folks...

 
I don't think the non-team player comment was about playing Brown all over the field. I think it was,'Hey Richard, your defense gave up 490 passing yards at home. What's that about?" And his response wasn't, 'We all have a part in that and will have to get better.' But instead, 'Yeah, but did you see how great I was.'

 

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