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He HAS played a major part in getting Chicago there.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
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Wow, I must have missed the NFC Championship game...He HAS played a major part in getting Chicago there.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
Really, considering the Bears got this far with Jones starting every game and then tearing apart the Seahawks I don't think they agree with you on who the lead dog is.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
Did you notice who was on the field in the 4th Q and OT when the PLAYOFF game was tied?I'll give you three guesses.Really, considering the Bears got this far with Jones starting every game and then tearing apart the Seahawks I don't think they agree with you on who the lead dog is.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
he really didnt look that great running all year, everyone who has watched him without owning jones would probably agree. They just never lost so him and grossman got to keep there jobs even with average play. I don't credit Jones with much or maybe even any of the success the bears have had.Really, considering the Bears got this far with Jones starting every game and then tearing apart the Seahawks I don't think they agree with you on who the lead dog is.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
Jones isn't exactly the second coming of Walter Payton, but that statement is just silly.He played a very big part in getting them to this point. He had some average games, some below-average games, and a few excellent games. He is what he is.... a very serviceable RB. But Benson can be special.It was a good sign that he is now catching passes. He rarely did that before.
Really, considering the Bears got this far with Jones starting every game and then tearing apart the Seahawks I don't think they agree with you on who the lead dog is.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
18 yards in the second half (did he get tired??)- 66 overall with a 3.1 YPC was hardly TEARING APART the Seahawks - but why let the facts get in the way... Benson looked like the better runner in that game - especially if you take away the Jones TD runs where he was virtually untouched...
he played a big part in it because they were feeding him the ball, but I suppose you're right he should get credit anyways. I don't own either of these guys but just watching the bears alot this year I see no reason why Benson won't get the job next year.
Completely disagree.No way will Lovie Smith entrustI think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
How could anyone argue with sound logic like thatCompletely disagree.No way will Lovie Smith entrustI think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
the running game with Cedric Benson.
Thomas Jones, not Benson, is the lead dog
in Chi-town, and whether the Saints or Bears
win on Sunday, this will not affect next yeaqr's lineup.
Expect more of the same in 2007 from the Chicago running game.
Sorta like Dungy was not going to put the safety of Manning in the hands of a rookie RB like Addai. And no way Gore can be any good in 2006 because the 49ers sucked in 2005. Or, Edge is a stud no matter where he plays.
I see it the same way as you RN.Did you notice who was on the field in the 4th Q and OT when the PLAYOFF game was tied?I'll give you three guesses.Really, considering the Bears got this far with Jones starting every game and then tearing apart the Seahawks I don't think they agree with you on who the lead dog is.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
And the answer is Cedric of course. But here's how it breaks down. Benson had 8 carries and 3 catches in the 4th Q and OT. TJones had 2 carries and 1 catch in the 4th Q and no touches in OT.I see it the same way as you RN.Did you notice who was on the field in the 4th Q and OT when the PLAYOFF game was tied?I'll give you three guesses.Really, considering the Bears got this far with Jones starting every game and then tearing apart the Seahawks I don't think they agree with you on who the lead dog is.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
Benson is a headcase. He has done NOTHING to prove he is a reliable or team oriented player.From emotionally breaking down on draft day (not because he was happy - he was crying saying he should not have fallen to 1.04) to off-season issues with team-mates to running his mouth to leaving the field (quitter) during a game.... etc, etc.
That's a pretty small sample set to draw any conclusions from. Garrison Hearst was behind Ronald Moore for two years before breaking out his third year, but that was more due to injury - although injury contributed to Benson not overtaking Jones out of the gate. Jones goes on to have a career year on a successful team and is back as the starter, so it's also a pretty unique situation. It's not like Benson isn't passing, well, a Ronald Moore.
Not to my recolection but the back he is most similar too (Ricky Williams) took 3 years to come around.
Ricky Williams started 12 games his rookie year before getting injured. He rushed for 884 yards. His second year he started 10 games (before getting hurt again) and rushed for 1000 yards. I'd say the two situations are a bit different.
Yeah, I'd say this is a very rare situation. You draft a RB #4 overall to come in right away and be your stud. I can't recall anyone being drafted that high and still being 2nd on the depth chart, with the exception of when the guy got his chance and stunk up the joint. Curtis Enis, for one, comes to mind.
There was this guy that was drafted 1.07 who struggled for several years and couldn't seem to break consistently into the starting line-up behind players that didn't have as good a pedigree and were generally less well regarded. His first 3 years he averaged <500 yards per season and about 3.5 yards per carry. He became somewhat a malcontent, was regarded as a bust and a poor worker with attitude problems who ripped his team for a lack of opportunity. Eventually he was traded a couple times and went on to put up 1300+ total yards in three consecutive seasons. He became regarded as the consumate hard worker, "team" oriented player and a key cog in a playoff team's offense. His name? Thomas Jones...
Like the NFC North.How could anyone argue with sound logic like thatCompletely disagree.No way will Lovie Smith entrustI think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
the running game with Cedric Benson.
Thomas Jones, not Benson, is the lead dog
in Chi-town, and whether the Saints or Bears
win on Sunday, this will not affect next yeaqr's lineup.
Expect more of the same in 2007 from the Chicago running game.Sorta like Dungy was not going to put the safety of Manning in the hands of a rookie RB like Addai. And no way Gore can be any good in 2006 because the 49ers sucked in 2005. Or, Edge is a stud no matter where he plays.
All lines don't hold much water when looked at in retrospect. I love having guys like Mr. Mexico on the board. I mean, a guy who can call Lovie Smith at any time and get it straight from his mouth that Lovie will not go with Cedric is money in most fantasy leagues. You can't buy information like that.
BTW, TJones played in 1 more game than last year and his numbers whent down pretty much across the board on the ground (less carries, yards, YPA, TD's, 20+ carries). He had 10 more catches but only 11 more yards and thus his ypc went down. Maybe he was dinged up. Maybe the line didn't play as well. Maybe they threw more.
Benson's numjbers on the other hand went up big time from last year to this year. 90 more carries, 275 more yards, 6 more TD's.
One guy's numbers are going in one direction and one guy's are going in another.
I will say this though, even if Benson gets the majority of work next year I would not expect either of these guys to crack the top 15 at RB. TJones was 20th in a Non-PPR and 18th in PPR leagues. I don't see either of these guys making an impact next year on anyone's team. The only significant thing that can happen next year if Benson takes over as the lead back is the benson fans dropping the, "I Told You So's," despite it not mattering to those not in the deepest of leagues where a #20 RB is worth something more than a matchup based start.
and now you know - the rest of the story...
He HAS played a major part in getting Chicago there.I think Benson is the lead dog next year no matter what, but it will definitely be harder for the Bears to ship Jones out of town if he plays a major part in Chicago getting to (or winning) the Super Bowl.
GO SAINTS!
Actually, that's what might be holding Benson back.His career numbers in quarters 1-3 are 128 carries for 599 yards. That's 4.7 yards per carry.His career numbers in the 4th Q are 89 carries for 274 yards. That's a shade under 3.1 per carry.Most RBs see a slight drop in their YPC in the 4th (if they are running the ball, it usually means their team is winning and the opposing D is playing the run heavily). But not that much. Benson has yet to show he's a closer if those stats are to be believed.
