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A candid Cedric Benson says he felt singled out, still doesn't trust a few teammates

July 29, 2007

BOURBONNAIS, Ill. -- Cedric Benson insists he's not a naturally trusting sort, but there he stood on the opening day of training camp speaking the truth as he knows it with a clarity and honesty not often found in the cliched sound-bite-speak of professional sports.

Defensive one second and aggressive the next, Benson talked about earning trust and giving it, about finally taking over a starting role two seasons into his NFL career and about running toward a new future as opposed to running away from an awkward past.

Defensive one second and aggressive the next, Benson talked about earning trust and giving it, about finally taking over a starting role two seasons into his NFL career and about running toward a new future as opposed to running away from an awkward past.

''I don't want to start a big mess,'' Benson said. ''But I don't mind real talk because these are things I really feel but don't say much about.''

The things in question include the rocky start of his pro career, the trust issue with teammates and his tense relationship with Thomas Jones the last couple of seasons -- one that continues to leave him without trust in a few teammates. ''Far, far from it,'' Benson said. ''But I am not going to get anything off my chest or put it out in the open, any grudges or anything like that. If there was somebody I didn't really trust and they wanted to go out to dinner or something, I would still go. I would still try to get acquainted with them or try to be friends or be more trustworthy of them.''

Bears coach Lovie Smith was very succinct about Benson's status with the team. He said everyone has to prove themselves as a first-year starter, be it a running back, quarterback, lineman or coach.

''Here's what I know about Cedric Benson: 'He's our guy now,''' Smith said. ''We like him. His teammates like him. He's healthy. We're looking for a big year from him. Anything that happened with Cedric in the past, it's in the past.''

Benson said he bears no grudges, but he has a long memory of what it was like to come into a team as a highly paid rookie and feel unwanted. Benson said Jones struck him in the face last year during a running-backs drill the week before the Arizona game. He's convinced that some friends of Jones closely monitored his behavior to present his actions in the worst light possible. He says he definitely received some extra shots during training camp last year.

Worst of all, he's stunned by a question he has been asked at least twice since arriving in training camp: Was he really injured in the Super Bowl or was his knee problem some kind of fabrication to get out of the game?

''Yeah, people are saying I could have played and refused to go back in the game,'' Benson said. ''I have no idea where that came from. I was asked that question twice. I feel really insulted. It's outrageous. I mean, I feel slapped in the face by that. I want to ask: 'Did you never see me play football before?' I almost don't know what to say. It's so outrageous.''

Smith said the legitimacy of Benson's injury in the Super Bowl ''is no issue with us.''

''When a guy is hurt, he doesn't play,'' Smith said. ''Any player. So that's how it is. He was hurt. We didn't have him. I wish we would have had him, but that's how it goes. I wish we had Tommie Harris. I wish we had Mike Brown. There are a lot of guys lost to injury. That's how it goes.''

Benson's relationship with Jones seems complicated. First, Benson said he wishes Jones all the best and nothing but success with the New York Jets and points out the player got a pretty good deal in the long run. But then he scoffs at Jones saying he's ''10 times the man and 10 times the player.''

Benson said the punch occurred early in practice on the Wednesday before the Oct. 16 game at Arizona. He said, to his knowledge, Jones wasn't fined. Benson didn't pursue the matter with the coaching staff.

''I was able to sit down in my locker and think back on that situation and feel this guy is so intimidated by me, he cannot hold his composure around me,'' Benson said. ''So I left it alone.''

Benson said coming to the Bears as the fourth overall selection in the 2004 draft wasn't so much hard for him as it was hard for some teammates. He apparently rubbed people the wrong way by predicting it wouldn't take him long to break into the starting lineup, even though that confidence is needed for anybody to succeed in the NFL. He felt shut out as a rookie.

''I guess they didn't like [my contract] and they were probably good buddies with Thomas,'' Benson said. ''I had to deal with that, too, and that is something people don't really know.''

Benson said he definitely took extra shots in training camp last year. And he was disappointed that it was teammates who told the Chicago Sun-Times that he was fined for walking off the sideline during a preseason game that he missed because of injury. Benson said he made a mistake at the time but couldn't believe he was publicly shamed for the incident.

Running backs coach Tim Spencer said he doesn't believe Benson took any extra shots in practice last year in some sort of conspiracy or statement in support of Jones.

''Having Thomas last year, he was established; you knew he was going to be there,'' Spencer said. ''Ced was trying to take his job, so he was trying to step up his play. He was running harder. He was trying to do some things, to be physical and show everybody he can be that guy, and he probably took a few too many shots. I don't think anybody took any cheap shots at him; that's not our guys.

''It was tough. Thomas was a true pro. He was going to do everything right, and unless you're going to do everything right, too, and do it a lot better, it's going to be tough [to take the job] from a guy like that.''

Benson felt like a target.

''I was the only one who came out of camp with a separated shoulder,'' he said. ''I mean, we're talking a separated shoulder, not a bruise. Take what you want from that. I don't think it's hard to figure out.''

Benson said he doesn't want to ''lose another starting position because of something stupid'' but doesn't believe he'll get the same treatment once the pads are on and scrimmage goes live this year. He seems almost apologetic that he even contemplates the possibility.

''The way my attitude is or the way my guard is set up is based on how I have been treated,'' Benson said. ''It's not like I was like this always. I was never all that open and outgoing, but these things have made me stay to myself even more.''

Maybe the 2007 season will be a coming-out party for Benson in more ways than one.

 
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I didn't watch the NFL draft with Benson being drafted. I've heard that Cedric Benson literally cried to ESPN after he got picked in an interview, not because he became a millionaire but because he felt disrespected and compared him to Ricky Williams? Did anyone ever see this or am I being misled?

 
I didn't watch the NFL draft with Benson being drafted. I've heard that Cedric Benson literally cried to ESPN after he got picked in an interview, not because he became a millionaire but because he felt disrespected and compared him to Ricky Williams? Did anyone ever see this or am I being misled?
I remember Benson crying, but I don't remember that stuff about being disrespected. I do remember reading a lot of posts, here and elsewhere, that knocked Benson for crying. It always seemed strange to me, and I hope those posters have since entered the 9th grade.
 
Does anyone think Adrian Peterson (CHI) has a chance to take his job?
After watching the 49ers game I'd say so, he had 19 carries for 33 yards, kinda pathetic? Peterson was 6 carries for 27. I watched Lamont Jordan shred the 49ers in the running game and Benson didn't look close to Jordan, whom I'm not high on at all. Mike Bell/Sapp/Travis Henry all tore up the 49ers also. I think Benson is the only guy to get stuffed. Maybe Peterson will at least steal the goalline carries, check this out:1-10-SF 20 (1:37) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 20 for no gain (90-I.Sopoaga).

2-10-SF 20 (1:02) 8-R.Grossman pass short right to 82-G.Olsen pushed ob at SF 4 for 16 yards (56-B.Moore).

1-4-SF 4 (:55) 8-R.Grossman pass incomplete short right to 83-M.Hass. PENALTY on SF-55-H.Navies, Illegal Substitution, 2 yards, enforced at SF 4 - No Play.

1-2-SF 2 (:47) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 3 for -1 yards (52-P.Willis). Timeout #1 by CHI at 00:41.

2-3-SF 3 (:41) 29-A.Peterson left end for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

 
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A candid Cedric Benson says he felt singled out, still doesn't trust a few teammates

July 29, 2007

BOURBONNAIS, Ill. -- Cedric Benson insists he's not a naturally trusting sort, but there he stood on the opening day of training camp speaking the truth as he knows it with a clarity and honesty not often found in the cliched sound-bite-speak of professional sports.

Defensive one second and aggressive the next, Benson talked about earning trust and giving it, about finally taking over a starting role two seasons into his NFL career and about running toward a new future as opposed to running away from an awkward past.

Defensive one second and aggressive the next, Benson talked about earning trust and giving it, about finally taking over a starting role two seasons into his NFL career and about running toward a new future as opposed to running away from an awkward past.

''I don't want to start a big mess,'' Benson said. ''But I don't mind real talk because these are things I really feel but don't say much about.''

The things in question include the rocky start of his pro career, the trust issue with teammates and his tense relationship with Thomas Jones the last couple of seasons -- one that continues to leave him without trust in a few teammates. ''Far, far from it,'' Benson said. ''But I am not going to get anything off my chest or put it out in the open, any grudges or anything like that. If there was somebody I didn't really trust and they wanted to go out to dinner or something, I would still go. I would still try to get acquainted with them or try to be friends or be more trustworthy of them.''

Bears coach Lovie Smith was very succinct about Benson's status with the team. He said everyone has to prove themselves as a first-year starter, be it a running back, quarterback, lineman or coach.

''Here's what I know about Cedric Benson: 'He's our guy now,''' Smith said. ''We like him. His teammates like him. He's healthy. We're looking for a big year from him. Anything that happened with Cedric in the past, it's in the past.''

Benson said he bears no grudges, but he has a long memory of what it was like to come into a team as a highly paid rookie and feel unwanted. Benson said Jones struck him in the face last year during a running-backs drill the week before the Arizona game. He's convinced that some friends of Jones closely monitored his behavior to present his actions in the worst light possible. He says he definitely received some extra shots during training camp last year.

Worst of all, he's stunned by a question he has been asked at least twice since arriving in training camp: Was he really injured in the Super Bowl or was his knee problem some kind of fabrication to get out of the game?

''Yeah, people are saying I could have played and refused to go back in the game,'' Benson said. ''I have no idea where that came from. I was asked that question twice. I feel really insulted. It's outrageous. I mean, I feel slapped in the face by that. I want to ask: 'Did you never see me play football before?' I almost don't know what to say. It's so outrageous.''

Smith said the legitimacy of Benson's injury in the Super Bowl ''is no issue with us.''

''When a guy is hurt, he doesn't play,'' Smith said. ''Any player. So that's how it is. He was hurt. We didn't have him. I wish we would have had him, but that's how it goes. I wish we had Tommie Harris. I wish we had Mike Brown. There are a lot of guys lost to injury. That's how it goes.''

Benson's relationship with Jones seems complicated. First, Benson said he wishes Jones all the best and nothing but success with the New York Jets and points out the player got a pretty good deal in the long run. But then he scoffs at Jones saying he's ''10 times the man and 10 times the player.''

Benson said the punch occurred early in practice on the Wednesday before the Oct. 16 game at Arizona. He said, to his knowledge, Jones wasn't fined. Benson didn't pursue the matter with the coaching staff.

''I was able to sit down in my locker and think back on that situation and feel this guy is so intimidated by me, he cannot hold his composure around me,'' Benson said. ''So I left it alone.''

Benson said coming to the Bears as the fourth overall selection in the 2004 draft wasn't so much hard for him as it was hard for some teammates. He apparently rubbed people the wrong way by predicting it wouldn't take him long to break into the starting lineup, even though that confidence is needed for anybody to succeed in the NFL. He felt shut out as a rookie.

''I guess they didn't like [my contract] and they were probably good buddies with Thomas,'' Benson said. ''I had to deal with that, too, and that is something people don't really know.''

Benson said he definitely took extra shots in training camp last year. And he was disappointed that it was teammates who told the Chicago Sun-Times that he was fined for walking off the sideline during a preseason game that he missed because of injury. Benson said he made a mistake at the time but couldn't believe he was publicly shamed for the incident.

Running backs coach Tim Spencer said he doesn't believe Benson took any extra shots in practice last year in some sort of conspiracy or statement in support of Jones.

''Having Thomas last year, he was established; you knew he was going to be there,'' Spencer said. ''Ced was trying to take his job, so he was trying to step up his play. He was running harder. He was trying to do some things, to be physical and show everybody he can be that guy, and he probably took a few too many shots. I don't think anybody took any cheap shots at him; that's not our guys.

''It was tough. Thomas was a true pro. He was going to do everything right, and unless you're going to do everything right, too, and do it a lot better, it's going to be tough [to take the job] from a guy like that.''

Benson felt like a target.

''I was the only one who came out of camp with a separated shoulder,'' he said. ''I mean, we're talking a separated shoulder, not a bruise. Take what you want from that. I don't think it's hard to figure out.''

Benson said he doesn't want to ''lose another starting position because of something stupid'' but doesn't believe he'll get the same treatment once the pads are on and scrimmage goes live this year. He seems almost apologetic that he even contemplates the possibility.

''The way my attitude is or the way my guard is set up is based on how I have been treated,'' Benson said. ''It's not like I was like this always. I was never all that open and outgoing, but these things have made me stay to myself even more.''

Maybe the 2007 season will be a coming-out party for Benson in more ways than one.
Thanks Keith. I agree, very interesting there. J

 
I didn't watch the NFL draft with Benson being drafted. I've heard that Cedric Benson literally cried to ESPN after he got picked in an interview, not because he became a millionaire but because he felt disrespected and compared him to Ricky Williams? Did anyone ever see this or am I being misled?
I remember Benson crying, but I don't remember that stuff about being disrespected. I do remember reading a lot of posts, here and elsewhere, that knocked Benson for crying. It always seemed strange to me, and I hope those posters have since entered the 9th grade.
I would tend to agree, if he was crying because he became a multimillionaire and achieved his dream of being an NFL player, let him cry. I remember Vernon Davis cried when drafted and it didn't bother me at all. I'd cry if I won the Lotto. Does anyone remember why Benson was crying? Was it tears of happiness or did i hear correctly that he felt disrespected?
 
I would tend to agree, if he was crying because he became a multimillionaire and achieved his dream of being an NFL player, let him cry. I remember Vernon Davis cried when drafted and it didn't bother me at all. I'd cry if I won the Lotto.
That was the beginning of the Ced Benson Irrational Hate, IMO. Vernon took some static for crying as well. Never made sense to me.
 
Uh oh did Benson crash his Honda?
Can someone tell me why Honda is used to represent a repost? Just always been curius
from the ffa faq:1. HONDA Reference to this Honda car commercial. It was posted several times in the Free For All. If you start a thread that's a duplicate of a previous posting you can be sure someone will play the :honda: on you. As a matter of etiquette, this should be accompanied by a link to the previous thread. (Also sometimes referred to as a "penquin.")

 
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Uh oh did Benson crash his Honda?
Can someone tell me why Honda is used to represent a repost? Just always been curius
from the ffa faq:1. HONDA Reference to this Honda car commercial. It was posted several times in the Free For All. If you start a thread that's a duplicate of a previous posting you can be sure someone will play the :honda: on you. As a matter of etiquette, this should be accompanied by a link to the previous thread. (Also sometimes referred to as a "penquin.")
Great commercial. Still don't get why/how that ad became slang for a redundant post.
 
He started out his career crying about where he was drafted, then held out until a week or two before the season started, then claimed that Thomas Jones' good start was thanks to him (bc Jones was motivated by Benson). That was how his career started. I dont remember everything he has done to turn people off, but he is a very dis-likable player & person.

On the field, he has shown absolutely nothing so far in the NFL.

Ill pass, thank you.

 
I didn't watch the NFL draft with Benson being drafted. I've heard that Cedric Benson literally cried to ESPN after he got picked in an interview, not because he became a millionaire but because he felt disrespected and compared him to Ricky Williams? Did anyone ever see this or am I being misled?
I think he was crying because he didn't care for the draft process. Like he was treated like a piece of meat. I'm sure he was lied to about how certain teams above the Bears in draft order were going to draft him.I am not sold him this year, and I most likely will not draft him. Living in Central IL, the majority of my league is filled with Bears fans, so I don't think I will have make a decision on him as he will be gone before it comes to that.
 
I didn't watch the NFL draft with Benson being drafted. I've heard that Cedric Benson literally cried to ESPN after he got picked in an interview, not because he became a millionaire but because he felt disrespected and compared him to Ricky Williams? Did anyone ever see this or am I being misled?
I think he was crying because he didn't care for the draft process. Like he was treated like a piece of meat. I'm sure he was lied to about how certain teams above the Bears in draft order were going to draft him.I am not sold him this year, and I most likely will not draft him. Living in Central IL, the majority of my league is filled with Bears fans, so I don't think I will have make a decision on him as he will be gone before it comes to that.
Benson cried because he felt people had unfair perceptions of him. I also thought he bawled because he finally realized his dream. Hell, I'd bawl too. I'd give it my best **** Vermeil, Danny Glover, Tammy Faye impression. Benson had some off the field issues at Texas, plus his relationship with Ricky Williams, which led to people thinking he was a headcase.
 
Does anyone think Adrian Peterson (CHI) has a chance to take his job?
After watching the 49ers game I'd say so, he had 19 carries for 33 yards, kinda pathetic? Peterson was 6 carries for 27. I watched Lamont Jordan shred the 49ers in the running game and Benson didn't look close to Jordan, whom I'm not high on at all. Mike Bell/Sapp/Travis Henry all tore up the 49ers also. I think Benson is the only guy to get stuffed. Maybe Peterson will at least steal the goalline carries, check this out:1-10-SF 20 (1:37) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 20 for no gain (90-I.Sopoaga).

2-10-SF 20 (1:02) 8-R.Grossman pass short right to 82-G.Olsen pushed ob at SF 4 for 16 yards (56-B.Moore).

1-4-SF 4 (:55) 8-R.Grossman pass incomplete short right to 83-M.Hass. PENALTY on SF-55-H.Navies, Illegal Substitution, 2 yards, enforced at SF 4 - No Play.

1-2-SF 2 (:47) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 3 for -1 yards (52-P.Willis). Timeout #1 by CHI at 00:41.

2-3-SF 3 (:41) 29-A.Peterson left end for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
That TD was at the end of the half. Benson already had one other TD and maybe Lovie wanted to see how Peterson could handle Goal line duties, who knows. Next series at the beginning of the third quarter Peterson was the runningback. On another note, I keep reading that Benson is going down after first contact in the preseason. I can't say I watch him enough to know how he runs. Did he do this last year or in his college career? I have a hard time believing that a player with the stats he had at Texas goes down on first contact all the time, but I honestly never saw him play in college.

 
That TD was at the end of the half. Benson already had one other TD and maybe Lovie wanted to see how Peterson could handle Goal line duties, who knows. Next series at the beginning of the third quarter Peterson was the runningback.

On another note, I keep reading that Benson is going down after first contact in the preseason. I can't say I watch him enough to know how he runs. Did he do this last year or in his college career? I have a hard time believing that a player with the stats he had at Texas goes down on first contact all the time, but I honestly never saw him play in college.
Anything but that. Just over 51% of his yards in college came after contact. I've watched every play of his this preseason and he's been running hard, there has just been little holes. Expect that to improve when the Bears are not running a vanilla offense and will take advantage of teams stacking the box.I've spend a lot of time breaking down Benson and this is what I have:

Positive- He will come out on obvious passing downs but other than that he will be the feature back on a team with one of the best lines in the NFL. The options in the passing game should make defenses respect the pass and open up running lanes for Benson. The strong defense should give the Bears a short field to work with which should lead to more TD's and finally the Bears have a strong commitment to the running game. He has improved in the pass catching department. He's a guy who is going to be running with something to prove.

Negative- He comes out on obvious passing downs and the majority of third downs. This will hurt his value in PPR leagues and not give him the chance to pad his stats with long runs on third and long. The schedule is brutal. He's never done it over the course of an entire season but he was a workhorse in college so that is somewhat mitigated IMO.

 
That TD was at the end of the half. Benson already had one other TD and maybe Lovie wanted to see how Peterson could handle Goal line duties, who knows. Next series at the beginning of the third quarter Peterson was the runningback.

On another note, I keep reading that Benson is going down after first contact in the preseason. I can't say I watch him enough to know how he runs. Did he do this last year or in his college career? I have a hard time believing that a player with the stats he had at Texas goes down on first contact all the time, but I honestly never saw him play in college.
Anything but that. Just over 51% of his yards in college came after contact. I've watched every play of his this preseason and he's been running hard, there has just been little holes. Expect that to improve when the Bears are not running a vanilla offense and will take advantage of teams stacking the box.I've spend a lot of time breaking down Benson and this is what I have:

Positive- He will come out on obvious passing downs but other than that he will be the feature back on a team with one of the best lines in the NFL. The options in the passing game should make defenses respect the pass and open up running lanes for Benson. The strong defense should give the Bears a short field to work with which should lead to more TD's and finally the Bears have a strong commitment to the running game. He has improved in the pass catching department. He's a guy who is going to be running with something to prove.

Negative- He comes out on obvious passing downs and the majority of third downs. This will hurt his value in PPR leagues and not give him the chance to pad his stats with long runs on third and long. The schedule is brutal. He's never done it over the course of an entire season but he was a workhorse in college so that is somewhat mitigated IMO.
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
 
That TD was at the end of the half. Benson already had one other TD and maybe Lovie wanted to see how Peterson could handle Goal line duties, who knows. Next series at the beginning of the third quarter Peterson was the runningback.

On another note, I keep reading that Benson is going down after first contact in the preseason. I can't say I watch him enough to know how he runs. Did he do this last year or in his college career? I have a hard time believing that a player with the stats he had at Texas goes down on first contact all the time, but I honestly never saw him play in college.
Anything but that. Just over 51% of his yards in college came after contact. I've watched every play of his this preseason and he's been running hard, there has just been little holes. Expect that to improve when the Bears are not running a vanilla offense and will take advantage of teams stacking the box.I've spend a lot of time breaking down Benson and this is what I have:

Positive- He will come out on obvious passing downs but other than that he will be the feature back on a team with one of the best lines in the NFL. The options in the passing game should make defenses respect the pass and open up running lanes for Benson. The strong defense should give the Bears a short field to work with which should lead to more TD's and finally the Bears have a strong commitment to the running game. He has improved in the pass catching department. He's a guy who is going to be running with something to prove.

Negative- He comes out on obvious passing downs and the majority of third downs. This will hurt his value in PPR leagues and not give him the chance to pad his stats with long runs on third and long. The schedule is brutal. He's never done it over the course of an entire season but he was a workhorse in college so that is somewhat mitigated IMO.
not necessarily . . . he has done well in preseason as far as pass pro and receiving is concerned . . .

 
That TD was at the end of the half. Benson already had one other TD and maybe Lovie wanted to see how Peterson could handle Goal line duties, who knows. Next series at the beginning of the third quarter Peterson was the runningback.

On another note, I keep reading that Benson is going down after first contact in the preseason. I can't say I watch him enough to know how he runs. Did he do this last year or in his college career? I have a hard time believing that a player with the stats he had at Texas goes down on first contact all the time, but I honestly never saw him play in college.
Anything but that. Just over 51% of his yards in college came after contact. I've watched every play of his this preseason and he's been running hard, there has just been little holes. Expect that to improve when the Bears are not running a vanilla offense and will take advantage of teams stacking the box.I've spend a lot of time breaking down Benson and this is what I have:

Positive- He will come out on obvious passing downs but other than that he will be the feature back on a team with one of the best lines in the NFL. The options in the passing game should make defenses respect the pass and open up running lanes for Benson. The strong defense should give the Bears a short field to work with which should lead to more TD's and finally the Bears have a strong commitment to the running game. He has improved in the pass catching department. He's a guy who is going to be running with something to prove.

Negative- He comes out on obvious passing downs and the majority of third downs. This will hurt his value in PPR leagues and not give him the chance to pad his stats with long runs on third and long. The schedule is brutal. He's never done it over the course of an entire season but he was a workhorse in college so that is somewhat mitigated IMO.
not necessarily . . . he has done well in preseason as far as pass pro and receiving is concerned . . .
Yes he has but I do think one value of preseason is judging the substitution patterns. He has come out on every third down longer than 3 yards and last night he came out on two 3rd and 2's for Peterson. Maybe it wont' happen in the season but I think it will. Benson is going to get a lot of carries and he's going to need a rest on some downs. I drafted Benson in a PPR WCOFF draft this saturday so I wish this was not true but I believe it to be so.
 
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :shrug:
 
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Does anyone think Adrian Peterson (CHI) has a chance to take his job?
After watching the 49ers game I'd say so, he had 19 carries for 33 yards, kinda pathetic? Peterson was 6 carries for 27. I watched Lamont Jordan shred the 49ers in the running game and Benson didn't look close to Jordan, whom I'm not high on at all. Mike Bell/Sapp/Travis Henry all tore up the 49ers also. I think Benson is the only guy to get stuffed. Maybe Peterson will at least steal the goalline carries, check this out:1-10-SF 20 (1:37) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 20 for no gain (90-I.Sopoaga).

2-10-SF 20 (1:02) 8-R.Grossman pass short right to 82-G.Olsen pushed ob at SF 4 for 16 yards (56-B.Moore).

1-4-SF 4 (:55) 8-R.Grossman pass incomplete short right to 83-M.Hass. PENALTY on SF-55-H.Navies, Illegal Substitution, 2 yards, enforced at SF 4 - No Play.

1-2-SF 2 (:47) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 3 for -1 yards (52-P.Willis). Timeout #1 by CHI at 00:41.

2-3-SF 3 (:41) 29-A.Peterson left end for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
That TD was at the end of the half. Benson already had one other TD and maybe Lovie wanted to see how Peterson could handle Goal line duties, who knows. Next series at the beginning of the third quarter Peterson was the runningback. On another note, I keep reading that Benson is going down after first contact in the preseason. I can't say I watch him enough to know how he runs. Did he do this last year or in his college career? I have a hard time believing that a player with the stats he had at Texas goes down on first contact all the time, but I honestly never saw him play in college.
I was at the Bears vs 49ers game and what I saw of Benson that day does not have me worried.Things to consider, Tackle Tait made his first start that day, he was rusty and a lot of the plays were going towards his way, Benson had no room too run, the times he had open space he made plays, Benson gained good yardage on a sweep and a draw I believe. When he made contact he did go down but I believe this is just good coaching telling him to save the hits for regular season. He bulldozed the Colts Back the week before so I think that is not a problem. Benson has also been involved in the passing game as well which is a nice PPR suprise. End Result, Its Preseason and Benson is still going to get the majority of carries in a run first Offense, Yeah he is a weird dude but he is not going to kill dogs or be involved in shootings at nite clubs. I actually like the guy because he is honest with everyone and he hasn't shied away from who he is.

People can hate on him for being different thats not a reason for me to avoid him in a starting line up

 
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Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :lmao:
Benson has averaged 4.1 yards a carry in the NFL. How is that a flop? The only thing he failed to do was outright win the job from Thomas Jones who is an experienced and productive back in his own right. I see no rational reason why his YPA would drastically decrease and he'll get the carries so in turn he'll produce as long as he stays healthy.
 
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :lmao:
Benson has averaged 4.1 yards a carry in the NFL. How is that a flop? The only thing he failed to do was outright win the job from Thomas Jones who is an experienced and productive back in his own right. I see no rational reason why his YPA would drastically decrease and he'll get the carries so in turn he'll produce as long as he stays healthy.
some people use the words "flop" and "bust" to describe half the players in the NFL . . .
 
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.

Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :lmao:
Benson has averaged 4.1 yards a carry in the NFL. How is that a flop? The only thing he failed to do was outright win the job from Thomas Jones who is an experienced and productive back in his own right. I see no rational reason why his YPA would drastically decrease and he'll get the carries so in turn he'll produce as long as he stays healthy.
some people use the words "flop" and "bust" to describe half the players in the NFL . . .
I personnaly do not throw around the term "bust" loosley.But your taken 4th overall....and act/play like Benson has.

Your a bust.

 
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Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.

Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :lmao:
Benson has averaged 4.1 yards a carry in the NFL. How is that a flop? The only thing he failed to do was outright win the job from Thomas Jones who is an experienced and productive back in his own right. I see no rational reason why his YPA would drastically decrease and he'll get the carries so in turn he'll produce as long as he stays healthy.
some people use the words "flop" and "bust" to describe half the players in the NFL . . .
I personnaly do not throw around the term "bust" loosley.But your taken 4th overall....and act/play like Benson has.

Your a bust.
This was my point, I call him a "flop for a 4th round pick". It's right up there in the quote. We'll see if he goes from flop to bust this year. Todem will probaly be right and he'll be a bust, even if he gets injured I think the word bust will suit him.
 
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.

Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :thumbdown:
Benson has averaged 4.1 yards a carry in the NFL. How is that a flop? The only thing he failed to do was outright win the job from Thomas Jones who is an experienced and productive back in his own right. I see no rational reason why his YPA would drastically decrease and he'll get the carries so in turn he'll produce as long as he stays healthy.
some people use the words "flop" and "bust" to describe half the players in the NFL . . .
I personnaly do not throw around the term "bust" loosley.But your taken 4th overall....and act/play like Benson has.

Your a bust.
That sounds pretty loose to me. Ced came out of training camp with a seperated shoulder last year and it reflects in his stats. He came on strong in the 2nd half:

1st 8 games 69/215/3.1/3

last 7 games 88/432/4.9/3

Calling him a bust is premature. Given he will carry the load on a run based Chicago team, I'd call him an excellent value play.

 
That sounds pretty loose to me.

Ced came out of training camp with a seperated shoulder last year and it reflects in his stats. He came on strong in the 2nd half:

1st 8 games 69/215/3.1/3

last 7 games 88/432/4.9/3

Calling him a bust is premature. Given he will carry the load on a run based Chicago team, I'd call him an excellent value play.
And the bolded part above (last 7 games) is exactly why, if he stays healthy, Benson has significant upside. 300 carries * 4.9 per is 1500, throw in 10-12 TD's and 200 receiving yards and you're awful close to, if not in, the top 10
 
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Keith Lewis said:
TitusIII said:
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :own3d:
He was selected with the highest draft pick the Bears have had since 1979 by one of the best personnel evaluators in the game. Hate on him if you like, but he is going to produce. No amount of venom spewed by the shark pool is going to change that. I'll take the opinion of Jerry DeAngelo over Keith Lewis any day of the week.It's draft time, why not just put up your projections, and see where the chips fall.Here's mine:295 carries1300 yards33 catches250 yards10 total touchdowns
 
Keith Lewis said:
Pocket Joker said:
Does anyone think Adrian Peterson (CHI) has a chance to take his job?
After watching the 49ers game I'd say so, he had 19 carries for 33 yards, kinda pathetic? Peterson was 6 carries for 27. I watched Lamont Jordan shred the 49ers in the running game and Benson didn't look close to Jordan, whom I'm not high on at all. Mike Bell/Sapp/Travis Henry all tore up the 49ers also. I think Benson is the only guy to get stuffed. Maybe Peterson will at least steal the goalline carries, check this out:1-10-SF 20 (1:37) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 20 for no gain (90-I.Sopoaga).

2-10-SF 20 (1:02) 8-R.Grossman pass short right to 82-G.Olsen pushed ob at SF 4 for 16 yards (56-B.Moore).

1-4-SF 4 (:55) 8-R.Grossman pass incomplete short right to 83-M.Hass. PENALTY on SF-55-H.Navies, Illegal Substitution, 2 yards, enforced at SF 4 - No Play.

1-2-SF 2 (:47) 32-C.Benson left tackle to SF 3 for -1 yards (52-P.Willis). Timeout #1 by CHI at 00:41.

2-3-SF 3 (:41) 29-A.Peterson left end for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
I knew of Benson's #'s from Saturday and watched the replay of the game late last night on NFLN. It seemed like SF was crowding the box early on when a large part of his carries came. Grossman was hitting on some sizeable chunks of yardage through most of the first half. The holes didn't seem that big, meaning safeties were playing up quite a bit. Benson was looking to drop his shoulder as he was coming through the line, his pad level was low on most of his runs. Quite a few times he was hit three yards in the backfield or making backside cuts one or two yards behind the line because stuff was bottled up. IMO the o-line struggled in the run game.
 
Remember, Chicago had the same problems last year in the run game with TJ during preseason. They should be fine this year.

 
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Keith Lewis said:
TitusIII said:
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :mellow:
I get that Benson is unliked. I'm not sure I even like him, but I'm also not sure what that has to do with fantasy football. I think people should give the guy at least a year as an NFL starter before questioning his NFL production. 6 TDs and a 4.1 isn't too bad for being the back up last year. Jones had almost twice the carries, twice the yards, and still netted a 4.0 and scored the same amount of TDs. Comparable production in my mind. I don't get this perception people have that Thomas Jones is a great back and so far superior to Benson? The dude was considered a bust after 4 seasons in the league and had the stats to prove it.Jones was a great pick up for the Bears after a good year in TB and produced decent numbers, but let's not get carried away. Thomas Jones didn't make me forget about Walter or even Neal Anderson for that matter. I am confident that if Benson plays 16 games his stats will easily beat Thomas Jones' career year.
 
Keith Lewis said:
TitusIII said:
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :lmao:
I get that Benson is unliked. I'm not sure I even like him, but I'm also not sure what that has to do with fantasy football. I think people should give the guy at least a year as an NFL starter before questioning his NFL production. 6 TDs and a 4.1 isn't too bad for being the back up last year. Jones had almost twice the carries, twice the yards, and still netted a 4.0 and scored the same amount of TDs. Comparable production in my mind. I don't get this perception people have that Thomas Jones is a great back and so far superior to Benson? The dude was considered a bust after 4 seasons in the league and had the stats to prove it.Jones was a great pick up for the Bears after a good year in TB and produced decent numbers, but let's not get carried away. Thomas Jones didn't make me forget about Walter or even Neal Anderson for that matter. I am confident that if Benson plays 16 games his stats will easily beat Thomas Jones' career year.
Let's not let logic find it's way into here ok?
 
Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.

 
Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.
Excellent. We will see.
 
Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.
Excellent. We will see.
:thumbup: :popcorn: ;)
 
Keith Lewis said:
TitusIII said:
Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...
Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque? :2cents:
I get that Benson is unliked. I'm not sure I even like him, but I'm also not sure what that has to do with fantasy football. I think people should give the guy at least a year as an NFL starter before questioning his NFL production. 6 TDs and a 4.1 isn't too bad for being the back up last year. Jones had almost twice the carries, twice the yards, and still netted a 4.0 and scored the same amount of TDs. Comparable production in my mind. I don't get this perception people have that Thomas Jones is a great back and so far superior to Benson? The dude was considered a bust after 4 seasons in the league and had the stats to prove it.Jones was a great pick up for the Bears after a good year in TB and produced decent numbers, but let's not get carried away. Thomas Jones didn't make me forget about Walter or even Neal Anderson for that matter. I am confident that if Benson plays 16 games his stats will easily beat Thomas Jones' career year.
Amen to that.
 
Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.
You obviously didn't see Benson on the Game Winning drive in the Divisional Playoffs last season.Catching, running, and breaking tackles to put gould into FG position.

 

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