Championship Tie (1 Viewer)

[ArdnuK]

Last night, our championship between myself (1 seed) and anther gentleman (6 seed) ended in a tie.

Our rules currently state (ESPN) that a tie goes to the team with the higher seed.

The commish sent an email out to the league this morning stating:

***I will not allow this to be decided on who had the higher total bench

or the higher total player on bench or who had the higher seed or better

record***

He then gave the league options on what to do about it:

1.) Split it.

2.) Play week 17 with a full roster

3.) Pick 5 guys on their team to battle. QB, RB, RB, WR, WR and

see who wins.

How would you handle this if you were in my shoes?

P.S. The other gentleman conceded the victory this morning before all this went down. I don't think the commish's email was a result of him complaining.

 

[Lowen1]

Commish is a fool. Rules are rules. You had a good team all season, thus the #1 seed. You deserve to win.

Also, next year use decimal points. Almost impossible to have tie with 2 decimal point scoring.

 

[Jason Wood]

I would offer the guy with the lower seed a chance to split the pot (if there is one), and if he accepts, great. If not, the rules stand.

 

[Todem]

I would offer the guy with the lower seed a chance to split the pot (if there is one), and if he accepts, great. If not, the rules stand.

Agreed. Rules were established, but a gentlemens offer is certainly a good approach first. And yes, go to 2 decimal scoring. It is a no brainer.

 

[flooredyas]

Last night, our championship between myself (1 seed) and anther gentleman (6 seed) ended in a tie.Our rules currently state (ESPN) that a tie goes to the team with the higher seed.The commish sent an email out to the league this morning stating:***I will not allow this to be decided on who had the higher total benchor the higher total player on bench or who had the higher seed or betterrecord***He then gave the league options on what to do about it:1.) Split it.2.) Play week 17 with a full roster3.) Pick 5 guys on their team to battle. QB, RB, RB, WR, WR andsee who wins.How would you handle this if you were in my shoes?P.S. The other gentleman conceded the victory this morning before all this went down. I don't think the commish's email was a result of him complaining.

Bogus. The commish is overstepping his position here. The rules are there, follow them. My team tied for the championship last night and the rules state, bench points decide. The commish verified that this morning and I won via the bench, yours should as well. Take your money and move on OR definately oust the commish for next year should he change rules after the fact.

 

[theplayer11]

rules are rules..why do bonehead idiots think they can change them?,, This shouldn't even be a question. Direct your idiot commish to this thread.

 

[Keith R]

Concur. You NEVER go against existing rules. Re-examine them after the season if you must but NEVER during.

 

[firstseason1988]

The commish probably didn't realize the rule, just say," Hey bro, rule was stated that the higher seed wins in the event of tie. I understand the oversight this time of year with the craziness of the holidays. I think the rule is in place to reward the more consistent team in the event of a tie. If you feel like the rule is misguided, let's have a league discussion for a rule change next year, or better yet, let's go to decimal scoring where a tie will very rarely occur. Thanks a lot, let me know if you need anything from me to get me my winnings, thanks for your commish duties this year and look forward to next year with my chance to repeat."

 

[ArdnuK]

Thank you everyone for your thoughts.

I've agreed to split pot. I have lobbied that I deserve the title as #1 seed and defending champ.

Is it funny that I really care more about the title than the pot?

 

[wargs]

Our league tied using decimal points this year (.1/yard), and the championship went to the higher seed. Not a bad rule for the playoffs, but I don't like it for the championship. It will be addressed in the offseason. I wasn't involved in the game.

 

[NoCheese]

Thank you everyone for your thoughts.I've agreed to split pot. I have lobbied that I deserve the title as #1 seed and defending champ.Is it funny that I really care more about the title than the pot?

Doesn't seem like there's a lot of cash at stake, so I'm not surprised you relish the title more.

 

[Cawbird]

The decimal system certainly prevents a tie with the scoring set-up. And the Commish can't go and change the rules now. The rules are the rules and I agree with the other posters that this should be brought up and voted on for next year. Another tie-breaker system if you don't want to use the decimal system is:

Tie breaker 1: Players contributing to the score (if a team had a player that scored 0, they would lose. Usually all players in the line-up would have scored though)

Tie breaker 2: Player with the highest single point total for the week.

We don't use the decimal system and the above tie-breakers have worked for us.

 

[comfortably numb]

I commish a league, and just took away the championship from the week 16 winner and gave it to a 4-9 team.

YAY ME!

 

[fsufan]

need to go with the rules, higher seed wins

before my league starting using decimal score during the year, we used decimal scoring to break ties in the playoffs and SB

 

[DropKick]

Multiple people have mentioned the obviously right thing to do... and that is stick with established rules.

I'm not a fan of bench point tie breakers. I prefer "higher seed" which places additional emphasis on the full season. It is something the team has earned. Not sure why your commish sees this as an inadequate tie breaker. We use decimal scoring so ties are unlikely. Higher seed is our tie breaker and a tie in the championship game would go down as co-champions.

 

[ArdnuK]

I'm not a fan of bench point tie breakers. I prefer "higher seed" which places additional emphasis on the full season. It is something the team has earned. Not sure why your commish sees this as an inadequate tie breaker. We use decimal scoring so ties are unlikely. Higher seed is our tie breaker and a tie in the championship game would go down as co-champions.

I agree.The commish's reason for not wanting to use the "higher seed" as tie breaker is due to the way our divisions are structured. The winner of each division gets a 1 or 2 seed. The remaining playoff seeds are based on best record.

The problem, as he points out, is that a team could get a 2 seed with a 7-6 record while a team from the other division could get a 3 seed with a 10-3 record. He doesn't feel that the 7-6 team should win a "higher seed" tie breaker over the 10-3 team.

I can see his point and we should change the rules going forward, however, that is not what is happening in this case.

Frustrating to say the least.

 

[Topes]

Our rules currently state (ESPN) that a tie goes to the team with the higher seed.

Is there a set of rules separate from the ESPN rules?Are you shown as the winner of the game on the ESPN site?(My first impression is you got hosed.)

 

[rocketsauce]

Agreed, if its in the rules, it stands. If it wasn't, it could be up for discussion.

We play a combined 2 week Championship in weeks 15 and 16, and our rules state that if things end in a tie after 2 weeks (highly unlikely seeing as how we use decimal scoring) that it goes to a 3rd week in Week 17. Hasn't ever happened, but it would be intense and awesome if it did. The championship was decided by exactly 6 pts -- so I guess we weren't far off.

 

[G-King]

It won't help in this situation, but the way our league address' this in all playoff games is that we are required before the kickoff to post on the message board, in order of best to worst, our point predictions for each player in our line up.

In case of a tie, we drop the production of our worst player until we have clear winner.

We also use .20 for assist in IDP and .50 ppr so it is real hard to have a tie. (But it does make for some scrotum crushing, .10 losses!)

 

[swampdog]

Rules are rules, very simple. If the Commish or anyone wanted to change those rules he (or she) should have discussed that prior to the weeks games. Remember, you as the higher seed were in a position of winning out right OR tieing. Either way you win. Your league is set up as "beat" the higher seeded team not "tie" them(and then hope for a rule change?).

Now next year when rules come up, I suggest some people in your league should actually have an opinion or shut the heck up.

Swamp

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Our rules currently state (ESPN) that a tie goes to the team with the higher seed.

 

[Sebowski]

Our rules currently state (ESPN) that a tie goes to the team with the higher seed.

 

[jackdubl]

I say you have to go with the rule here, but offer the gentleman's agreement. That would be the best outcome.

This same issue came up in our league this year where there was a tie in the playoffs. First tie-break was head-to-head record. But I think if you have to go with a tie-break in the playoffs you have to go with regular season points total. Seeding is not the best way. For instance, I was the 4 seed this year(4,5,and 6 all had the same record), but lead in points and points against(by a wide margin). Won the championship with the highest ever playoff score in our league. Points is the best determinant of which team is better if you need to break a tie.