Charlie Weis: 2 wins over a top 25 (barely) team in 4 years (1 Viewer)

[T Bell]

Guess Weis will be fired after this year.......oh wait, he's white.Well I guess we should give him 4 entire recruiting seasons so 100% of his roster can be "his guys".Top recruiting classes my ###

Are you saying they should have kept Ty?

Should they keep Charlie?

I don't think they can wait one or two or three more years for him to figure out how to be a head coach. He doesn't seem to be using the experience of his staff and hires an inexperienced Ron Powlus to be the QB coach.

Inexperienced? I don't see how you can say that about a guy who won four Heisman Trophies!

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Guess Weis will be fired after this year.......oh wait, he's white.Well I guess we should give him 4 entire recruiting seasons so 100% of his roster can be "his guys".Top recruiting classes my ###

Are you saying they should have kept Ty?

Should they keep Charlie?

I don't think they can wait one or two or three more years for him to figure out how to be a head coach. He doesn't seem to be using the experience of his staff and hires an inexperienced Ron Powlus to be the QB coach.

Inexperienced? I don't see how you can say that about a guy who won four Heisman Trophies!

God love Beano.

 

[Bobcat10]

He got his team a vacation to Hawaii. That wasn't easy to slot for such a prestigious program. Congrats.

 

[The Commish]

Not sure if I added this tidbit to the thread or not. If I did, sorry, but it's worth a repeat. I read an article on a blog somewhere that Weise was 2-16 against teams with .500 records or better in his "career" at ND....this was a few weeks ago so that loss column has gone up a few, but I couldn't believe it. Sure enough....it's spot on....unreal.

This is incorrect.He has 9 wins against teams who ended the year with winning records over his career.

Got me...should have qualified that the record was when they played....my bad. Regardless, 2 wins or 9 for the best offensive coach ever is pretty laughable isn't it?

It is pathetic.Not to argue the point but it is not possible he is 2 - 16 against teams with a winning record when they played, he beat 2 teams under that qualification this year alone (SDSU and Purdue). That stat is just a made up time frame. Basically 2 - 16 over the last 18 times he played a team that ended the year with a winning record. The problem is, ABC put up the stat during the BC game "Over the last 15 games he played against teams who ended the season with winning records, Weis is 1 - 14." and people ran with it and ignored the opening qualifier.

But, yes, he is unable to win the big game. He held 2 score or more leads against North Carolina, Pitt and Syracuse and failed to close the deal. He almost did the same against Navy. I don't know how you fix that. Is is a killer instinct that is lacking or an unwillingness to go for the jugular when you have a guy down on the ground?

I would be interested to hear who people think Notre Dame could hire to replace him. Although that conversation seems a bit premature at this point. Does Notre Dame still carry enough prestige that they could steal a very successful coach away from another BCS conference team? Would they have to go for a less experienced up and comer and would that up and comer be an improvement?

I don't remember the dates that I saw the stat and verified it. I'm sure it's changed. To have anything remotely close to that is laughable IMO. Looking at this year, of his 6 wins, one was against a team over .500 (Navy). The teams ND beat this year were a combined 22- 49.

 

[The Commish]

Might be a dumb question, but if he didn't want to leave, what was the discussion over? Him not being there and it being better for ND??

LINK

 

[mr. furley]

ND would be better off cutting him loose, paying whatever balloon payment they owe and moving on

 

[Tiger Fan]

update?

 

[Tiger Fan]

even though you won, i'll still bump this b/c you suck Weis

ETA: still only 2 wins vs. top 25 teams in 4+ years

 

[Parrothead]

even though you won, i'll still bump this b/c you suck WeisETA: still only 2 wins vs. top 25 teams in 4+ years

next up- USC

 

[Tiger Fan]

Hey Mods, can I request an automatic bump every Sunday?

 

[Tiger Fan]

Hey Mods, can I request an automatic bump every Sunday?

What does a draft beer come out of?

 

[fasteddie_21]

Man, ND is gonna eat a metric ####ton of $$$ when they can Weis after this season.

 

[dickey moe]

even though you won, i'll still bump this b/c you suck WeisETA: still only 2 wins vs. top 25 teams in 4+ years

next up- USC

May actually wind up being a ND victory.

 

[Parrothead]

another signature loss for Weis..

decided schematic advantage

 

[mr. furley]

ND would be better off cutting him loose, paying whatever balloon payment they owe and moving on

up next, losses to, as Pat Hayden put it on Dan Patrick today "a very good Connecticut team" oof and a Stanford team that is on a rollYou gotta turn the damn satellite on for the TV to work! See the little green light? Just gotta turn it on! Or you can fire the black man. Whatever works for you.

 

[The Z Machine]

'furd is gonna romp on ND. They are for reals. (unfortunately)

 

[Tiger Fan]

Can't even stand up during the games.

sad

 

[Quez]

Can't even stand up during the games.

sad

Sitting on a cooler doesn't mean he is lazy or "can't stand up during games." Maybe there was food in the cooler and he was protecting it.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Can't even stand up during the games.

sad

Sitting on a cooler doesn't mean he is lazy or "can't stand up during games." Maybe there was food in the cooler and he was protecting it.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Shame Brantley waited 38 years to play QB at Florida.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Oops

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Contract with Notre Dame runs through the 2015 season and KU deal is through 2016. If there were no buyouts/settlements/nullifications of past deals, Weis is going to make about $6.5MM next year to not coach college football at two different schools.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

why the #### is Texas their homecoming game?

 

[Christo]

why the #### is Texas their homecoming game?

They needed a game somebody would show up for

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

In this weeks SI they have an article about the Belichick resignation/trade from the Jets to New England. After Belichick resigned, Weis pleaded with Parcells to give him the Jets head-coaching job. Parcells refused, and made it clear that his lobbying for the job probably killed any opportunity to be on the staff of the next coach. A week or so later at the deposition at NFL headquarters, Weis concocts a story about Parcells planning to secretly undermine Belichick--thus making the contract null and void, as well as making him look good to Belichick.

Parcells had Weis escorted from the Jets facility, shipping all of his stuff home.

Parcells had a great line: Loyalty counts for more than ambition. Some guys don't learn that until they are gone.