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Charlie Weis: 2 wins over a top 25 (barely) team in 4 years (1 Viewer)
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dparker713
Footballguy
At this point, could even ND afford to fire Charlie given his contract?
Linus Scrimmage
Footballguy
Absolutely. Especially given the television contract they have.I'm sure the ratings are horrible and CBS isn't liking that.
I think you mean NBC. Surely soon enough all these ND homers will die off, no?
Linus Scrimmage
Footballguy
Whichever network, NBC. I'm sure they can't be happy and want Weis fired
The what is such a what?
timschochet
Footballguy
That game today should be an embarrassment for all Irish fans. You're telling me that Notre Dame is behind to San Diego State in the 4th quarter? San Diego State, who lost last week to Cal Poly Pomona?
You're actually telling me that at home, the Irish after three and a half quarters produced exactly 7 points against the Aztecs, and those came on a blocked kick? And that if the San Diego State running back hadn't fumbled on the one foot line, the game would have been lost?
Weis looked totally clueless out there. If I were a Notre Dame fan, I would hang my head in shame. Barely beating San Diego State is probably worse than getting blown out by good teams. What a joke.
You're actually telling me that at home, the Irish after three and a half quarters produced exactly 7 points against the Aztecs, and those came on a blocked kick? And that if the San Diego State running back hadn't fumbled on the one foot line, the game would have been lost?
Weis looked totally clueless out there. If I were a Notre Dame fan, I would hang my head in shame. Barely beating San Diego State is probably worse than getting blown out by good teams. What a joke.
Gnat Berries
Footballguy
Preach on Brother! The Irish are the most racist team ever. They've never had a black mascot, black coach, etc. Hell, they're worse than the SEC. Oh wait...Tiger Fan said:
The Commish
Footballguy
timschochet said:
Aren't you a UCLA fan??Are you saying they should have kept Ty?
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I was laughing all game at how terrible ND was. They are in shambles.
Nope, just saying that their results have been pretty close to each others. Doubt Weis will get fired though
The Commish
Footballguy
If he can't beat Michigan this year, he should be fired on the spot. This is going to be THE UGLIEST game of the weekend.
belljr
Footballguy
Finally, something we can agree on
The Commish
Footballguy
There is a lot we agree on...just not the validity of the bcs....it's all goodFinally, something we can agree on
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Hammered Finz
Footballguy
apparently so did Syracuse...Syracuse??? How many Domers out there can continually defend this fraud of a coach 
Yenrub
Footballguy
Should they keep Charlie?
H.K.
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Hammered Finz
Footballguy
They should have hired someone with some college HEAD coaching experience.. in their desperation, ND admin were blinded by the ego and super bowl rings, ignoring the guy hasn't a lick of head coaching experience at any level...
awesome.... now ND fans hate them too!
But he's the best offensive play caller of all time?
Hammered Finz
Footballguy
tdoss
Footballguy
belljr
Footballguy
I'm giving him next season then he has to go --- this is absolutely pathetic. And preach about hard to get in blah blha blha, but the last time ND was successful was when they brought in questionable guys that were there to play football - just like most other colleges in the country. Them playing the education card is old now - it should be that obviously but they can't have it both ways.apparently so did Syracuse...Syracuse???
How many Domers out there can continually defend this fraud of a coach
The Commish
Footballguy
Not sure if I added this tidbit to the thread or not. If I did, sorry, but it's worth a repeat. I read an article on a blog somewhere that Weise was 2-16 against teams with .500 records or better in his "career" at ND....this was a few weeks ago so that loss column has gone up a few, but I couldn't believe it. Sure enough....it's spot on....unreal.
Hammered Finz
Footballguy
I guess that guarantee of a "schmatic advantage" didn't work out the way Weis thought it would...
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tdoss
Footballguy
Mike and Harry have to be in the running.Honorable mention to Phil and ****.SaveFerrisB said:I had to look it up. It's a slang term for the female reproductive organ that usually starts with "c", but in this case starts with "k". A reserve outfielder on the 1984 World Series champions had the same last name. Still haven't decided if "Pat" or "Rusty" is a better pairing with the surname. It's close.Pat Dickz?Pat Shitz?
Pat Anusz?
Pat Arsez?
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Are we talking about the election now?
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Get a life.
T Bell
Footballguy
Awesome.
Hammered Finz
Footballguy
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Death Bytes
Footballguy
Well, it's a good thing they are an independent school and can schedule teams based on that info.The Commish said:
The Commish
Footballguy
Yenrub
Footballguy
So they shouldn't keep him?He didn't almost beat USC this year
Death Bytes
Footballguy
Really?
This is incorrect.He has 9 wins against teams who ended the year with winning records over his career.
The Commish
Footballguy
Got me...should have qualified that the record was when they played....my bad. Regardless, 2 wins or 9 for the best offensive coach ever is pretty laughable isn't it?
The Commish
Footballguy
yesReally?
No. But, they need to find a good coach to replace him. I don't think 30 year old former USC assistant coaches will cut it. I wonder who would be interested in the job. Weis has shown no head coaching abilities. I don't think they can wait one or two or three more years for him to figure out how to be a head coach. He doesn't seem to be using the experience of his staff and hires an inexperienced Ron Powlus to be the QB coach. Weis also clearly made a mistake in bringing in a bunch of recruiters instead of a bunch of coaches. Not to put words in his mouth but I think he thought he could bring in 25 "first round picks" every year and his coaching would take care of itself. The problem is a 5 star offensive lineman is a freak of nature coming out of high school after being 4 - 6 inches and 30 - 50 pounds more than the guys he was facing up to that point his technique is probably lacking. If you don't have a college coach to coach him on fundamentals beyond what he learned in Pop Warner and high school, he is going to get schooled in college (no pun intended). Bringing in top 10 classes is one thing. Coaching them to be top 10 college teams is another. Charlie appears to have the first part down. Scheme doesn't matter if you can't run block or can't run proper routes. At this point, what coaches are going to jump on the sinking ship? Sure they brought in Tenuta this year (the defense was much improved) but are they going to be able to bring in a top flight offensive line coach? Maybe someone from the displaced staffs will be willing to come in and make a name for himself as they guy that turned around the Irish o line but more likely people want more job security than that.The only good thing to keeping Weis is that the AD can have a jump on the coaching search and conduct a 12 month search instead of a 12 day search like he would have had to do this year. The AD is less than a year on the job and I think he was caught off guard by the rapid decline after the North Carolina game. Sadly, the people running Notre Dame continue to dilute the brand. The next coach better be a home run hire and it doesn't seem home run hires are happening this year.The bad news is the schedule next season is pathetic. Washington is still on and Washington State replaced Syracuse. Connecticut and Nevada replace SDSU and North Carolina. That and a LSU/Ohio State like 7 home games opens the door to the possibility the team is not much better but ends up with a better record which would make it harder to fire Weis. Then again, this team could go 2 - 10 next year.2009 Football Schedule--------------------------------------------------------------------------------S05 NEVADAS12 @ MichiganS19 MICHIGAN ST.S26 @ PurdueO03 WASHINGTONO17 SOUTHERN CALO24 BOSTON COLLEGEO31 Washington St. (SA)N07 NAVYN14 @ PittsburghN21 CONNECTICUTN28 @ Stanford
Hammered Finz
Footballguy
It is pathetic.Not to argue the point but it is not possible he is 2 - 16 against teams with a winning record when they played, he beat 2 teams under that qualification this year alone (SDSU and Purdue). That stat is just a made up time frame. Basically 2 - 16 over the last 18 times he played a team that ended the year with a winning record. The problem is, ABC put up the stat during the BC game "Over the last 15 games he played against teams who ended the season with winning records, Weis is 1 - 14." and people ran with it and ignored the opening qualifier.
But, yes, he is unable to win the big game. He held 2 score or more leads against North Carolina, Pitt and Syracuse and failed to close the deal. He almost did the same against Navy. I don't know how you fix that. Is is a killer instinct that is lacking or an unwillingness to go for the jugular when you have a guy down on the ground?
I would be interested to hear who people think Notre Dame could hire to replace him. Although that conversation seems a bit premature at this point. Does Notre Dame still carry enough prestige that they could steal a very successful coach away from another BCS conference team? Would they have to go for a less experienced up and comer and would that up and comer be an improvement?
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