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Chiefs claim Kyle Orton (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
C-blocking? This is a great move for their own team. They're in the playoff race, their starting qb is hurt, the backup stinks, and they have some decent weapons.
How long until Orton is starting? Two weeks?
How long until Orton is starting? Two weeks?
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ponchsox
Footballguy
He will be in the game at some point on Sunday wearing a wristband for play calls.
SlevinKelevra
Footballguy
John Clayton suggested that Kyle Orton might not report to Chiefs if they claimed him off waivers.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I can't believe Orton would turn down this opportunity unless there was a deal with the Broncos to turn down any offers from teams within the division as a condition of his release.I don't care how much he likes Chicago - he's being given a chance to start and if he plays well he'll get the contract he's looking for from someone in the offseason.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Obviously some of the Chiefs homers have a view of the Chief playoff hopes that Orton doesn't share.
SlevinKelevra
Footballguy
As per league source, Cowboys and Bears also put in a claim
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Can he do that? Unless he pulls a Carson "I retire till you trade me" move I'm not sure he has the authority to sit out here (assuming he desires to play somewhere else). Has anyone ever been claimed by one team and then immediately traded to another? I have to imagine it's happened at some point.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
This prolly says more about the mileage on Kitna than it says anything about Romo.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
He probably just doesn't want to play for Haley.
SWC
Bromigo
he might just not lieke barbecue my brothers maybe he is more of a hot dog buy and that is why he wants to be at chicago
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Come again?
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
brother. gll peas
DoubleG
Footballguy
He can't be traded - trade deadline has passed. If he indeed did "unofficially" tell the Chiefs not to claim him and then they did anyway... I don't think this will end well for them.
He means he hates Haley.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
That's what she said.
glumpy
breeze
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
I'm more of a hot dog buy too.
thehornet
Footballguy
Yeah OK Clayton. I typically like Clayton but he is way off here. Even if Orton is ticked about going to the Chiefs, he's not abotu to blow his last opportunity at a contract and also the chance to blast the broncos. And to your first point, definitely do not drop Bowe. he is gonna beast from here on out. Orton may stink but he can sling it better than Cassel.
glumpy
breeze
Thanks for this. I'm still in a quandary but there's room to play and your post helped put it into perspective. These are backups, after all.
death of the cool
Footballguy
I am not sure what the rules are as far as not reporting to a wavier team, but my best guess is that there are rules in place to protect the wavier team.
The whole point of having waviers is so that teams struggling get the first crack at released players...if a player is able to force his way to a better team, it defeats the purpose.
My gut tells me that when Cutler went down, the Bears made a phone call to either the Broncos or Orton's agent to see if they could work something out. It is just pretty coincidental that the former Bears starter is released right after the current Bears starter breaks his thumb.
...and this would also explain why Orton does not want to report to KC. Why not report if you are going to be the starter on a decent team? Isn't that what he wanted?
...unless you know that a better team wants you as their starter (Bears). It also explains why Dallas put in a wavier claim as well, since Chicago is in front of them for the wildcard. My guess is that Dallas will eat the 2 mil of Orton's contract just to keep him off the Bears.
The whole point of having waviers is so that teams struggling get the first crack at released players...if a player is able to force his way to a better team, it defeats the purpose.
My gut tells me that when Cutler went down, the Bears made a phone call to either the Broncos or Orton's agent to see if they could work something out. It is just pretty coincidental that the former Bears starter is released right after the current Bears starter breaks his thumb.
...and this would also explain why Orton does not want to report to KC. Why not report if you are going to be the starter on a decent team? Isn't that what he wanted?
...unless you know that a better team wants you as their starter (Bears). It also explains why Dallas put in a wavier claim as well, since Chicago is in front of them for the wildcard. My guess is that Dallas will eat the 2 mil of Orton's contract just to keep him off the Bears.
if orton is any kind of professional he will report.
the only good reason I can see him not reporting is if he requested to be released onto waivers and the condition of such release was that he would not report if a division rival claims him.
And fair enough. Denver could have let him sit. At least they gave him a chance.
the only good reason I can see him not reporting is if he requested to be released onto waivers and the condition of such release was that he would not report if a division rival claims him.
And fair enough. Denver could have let him sit. At least they gave him a chance.
DoubleG
Footballguy
I do agree with your bit about the Cowboys blocking the Bears though. The odd part though, is that Hanie would likely have been the starter even if the Bears had gotten Orton. Orton was being brought in as Hanie's backup - just in case he got hurt.The other thing that doesn't really make sense is that it seem KC is only picking him up so they don't go 4-12. Honestly, with their schedule, even if Orton is decent - they may only go 6-10...all that does is give them a slightly worse draft pick in 2012. With the 25th ranked in defense in terms of points allowed, games against PIT, @CHI, @NYJ and GB - then closing out vs. OAK and Denver...sorry, I just don't see them winning 3 of those, let alone 4 or 5.
GoFishTN
Footballguy
Since that pretty much defeats the point of the waiver system, I would say there's a rule against this.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Agree with Dr. A that this is nonsense - Orton picks up $2+ million AND a chance to audition for a job as a starter for next year and loses both if he fails to report
Otis
Footballguy
Better question: why would he want to? He'd be getting the chance to step in and start immediately for a playoff team. That won't happen in too many places.
Otis
Footballguy
This WILL happen.
Yeah, it has to be an empty threat. He needs a chance to get a big free agent contract. He should get to throw the ball a lot in KC.
the spanker
Footballguy
Man I hope so...I need an early Christmas gift.
I imagine Lombardi said more than just that..I understand twitter N all, but ...It'd be fortunate for the Chiefs if he knew enough of a stripped down offense to be able to start this sunday. He loses at least a day due to thanksgiving, don't forget, and he already had a brief time to learn.
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
Two posts at Rotoworld:
Definitely good news for Bowe owners, but for those talking about dropping him... really?? He's still getting a ton of targets, went 7/87 on Monday and is obviously going to be a huge part of the offense regardless of who's at QB. Not sure what kind of leagues you play in but I have a very hard time believing there's anything on the WW worth dropping him for.
dgreen
Footballguy
teams don't practice and even if they do it's a joke of one
dgreen
Footballguy
teams don't practice and even if they do it's a joke of one
Heard a Redskin on the radio the other day saying they typically start really early on Thanksgiving and are done by about 2 so they can all go home. But, he seemed to indicate they've always had typical practices on Thanksgiving.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Please explain.
DoubleG
Footballguy
I think the point is that KC - a team within Denver's division and a team the Broncos play at the end of the season - just got better (considerably so at the QB position) = better chance for a "Tebow loss".ETA: By week 17 - say the AFC West title is on the line, if Orton throws for 250 and 2 TDs & 1 INT, while Tebow throws for 85, 0 TDs and 1 INT and the Broncos lose 27-13, most will blame Tebow for the loss (and credit their "former starting QB with a good game) and will have long forgotten that it was the Denver brass that handed a division opponent the bullet needed to shoot Denver's playoff chances to smithereens.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Okay, if that notion isn't absurd enough, explain the part about Elway being able to use the Jedi Mind Trick to get the Chiefs to sign him.
flapgreen
Footballguy
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
DoubleG
Footballguy
I was just trying to explain what I thought the OP meant - not responding with my thought.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Actually this part I can answer. I don't think Denver was hoping KC would sign him - but I do think they stupidly ignored the fact that it was a distinct possibility. In other words, I don't think Elway was trying to screw Tebow.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I know.
