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Chip Kelly's new Eagles offense to be held up by refs? (1 Viewer)
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
Something about the bolded seems....wrong. Like he's acknowledging the refs give preferential treatment to certain coaches. I would hope the refs work the games the same for all teams and coaches.
Maven
Footballguy
I saw this... smh... I thought the NFL actually wanted to promote offense and scoring?.. this is just that "we've been here for a while so youre just not gonna come in here and think youll go crazy with your little college offense...". This is just pure hate hahaha ....meanwhile teams like the Patriots have no problem going no huddle? An officials job is to officiate and make judgement calls as quick and accurate as possible and not be a deterrance to the flow of the game. If a team is lining up ready to snap and everyones waiting on the ref, its gonna look dumb on his part. And whats this ..."we're going to allow the defense to substitute" bs? smh
Maven
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
That's a rule, but only if the offense subs players. If the offense is lined up ready to go with no substitutions, the refs can't hold up the game to wait for a defensive substitution unless there's an injury. Which brings up another point - will we see an increase in defensive "injuries" just to slow the game? Hopefully "diving" gets flagged.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
That's been a rule for a while. If the offense subs, the defense is given a chance to match. The same rule exists in college.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Honestly I don't see much here. Teams do manage to run hurry-up under the rules described and the Eagles will be able to as well.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
"We're going through our normal ball mechanics. We aren't going to rush [unless] it's in the two-minute drill."
I've seen them rush for Brady & Co. and it was not during a 2-min drill so that's an interesting statement.
I've seen them rush for Brady & Co. and it was not during a 2-min drill so that's an interesting statement.
Banger
Footballguy
the problem is that most of the refs are late 50's+ and outside of a few aren't exactly in shape. It's a joke that they have guys my fathers age playing ref in a multi billion dollar business. Some of these guys get hurt each year because they are too slow to react. Football is a young man's game and the refs need to get younger too especially if teams are going to want to play these offenses....they refs should not be able to slow the game unless there's a legitimate reason.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Agree, except when its obvious.PlasmaDogPlasma said:
SWC
Bromigo
one thing that would be awesome is if he makes a ref mad by telling him to hurry it up to many times and then the ref every time that he gets the ball and has to put it back down does summersalts all the way back to the line of scrimmage it would just be pretty fun to see and to see if the ref could keep going or would get to dizzy and throw up i know it will not happen but sometimes i just like to tell a funny story like that to make some of you laugh and keep it light in here instead of having an argument where everyone lays out a bunch of numbered points and uses fancy pants bold take that to the bnank brohans
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
the "unless it's a two minute drill" seems a little hypocritical to me....officials shouldn't control tempo, they should adjust to the tempo....up to the point of it affecting implementation of the game (chains being set, etc)....the thing that should take the most time is resetting the chains......
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Shutout
Footballguy
The refs are in good shape. They actually have standards of fitness they must meet. Are they world class athletes? No. But you have to be reasonable here. There is a lot going on, on a football field. They need refs with Experience, not a bunch of young guys that can simply run. The NFL is a heady business. They probably put more analysis and study into the officiating aspect of the game than most companies do into their financial statements. This is a seriously scrutinized aspect of the game and they do tons to make sure they have enough guys in the right areas that are reasonably able to do their job.
I think you short change the refs big time if you basically want to replace them with younger people.
With all that being said, I agree that the limitations of refs should not limit where the game can go so if the speed of the game and new concepts puts undo stress on the refs, maybe they need to look at the give and take of adding additional officials or relying more on replay, or only substituting balls at specific junctures, etc. Maybe a wet ball just has to stay wet.
death of the cool
Footballguy
I have my questions if this Chip Kelly offense will work in the NFL. Sure it's easy to run a hurry up at Oregon when you are ripping off 6 to 15 yards per play, but in the NFL with an at best average offense he may just be hurrying his defense back on the field.
This will be one team I want to watch in the preseason closely.
This will be one team I want to watch in the preseason closely.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
It's flawed for sure, but Oregon had to deal with slow ref's and fake defensive injuries. This is nothing new.
bonesman
Footballguy
Flopping is pretty impossible to prove in the NBA, but they've taken steps to deter it. 15 yds and an automatic first should prevent teams from encouraging their guys to fake injuries.
