Chris Henry in trouble again (1 Viewer)

[Hammerage]

Check out this version of the story.

I was floored by the quote "An officer spotted a car he did not recognize parked in the Cincinnati Bengal’s driveway, ran the license plates and discovered the car had been reported stolen by a rental-car company."

They know what cars to expect in his driveway? And if they see a different one in his driveway they routinely check on it? WTF?

I'm about the last person to be a Bungles apologist, but maybe Marvin Lewis was right when he said they've got it in for the players.

Sounds like good police-work to me

Sounds like - where was the cops probably cause for running plates on a parked car in someones driveway with no reported disturbance and case closed because it would all get tossed anyhow.

They don't need probable cause to run plates. They can run your plates if you're in front of them at a stop light. If it's visible from the street, they can run it and it's completely legal and admissable in court.

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

 

[To commish is my wish]

Check out this version of the story.

I was floored by the quote "An officer spotted a car he did not recognize parked in the Cincinnati Bengal’s driveway, ran the license plates and discovered the car had been reported stolen by a rental-car company."

They know what cars to expect in his driveway? And if they see a different one in his driveway they routinely check on it? WTF?

I'm about the last person to be a Bungles apologist, but maybe Marvin Lewis was right when he said they've got it in for the players.

Sounds like good police-work to me

Sounds like - where was the cops probably cause for running plates on a parked car in someones driveway with no reported disturbance and case closed because it would all get tossed anyhow.

They don't need probable cause to run plates. They can run your plates if you're in front of them at a stop light. If it's visible from the street, they can run it and it's completely legal and admissable in court.

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

 

[supersecretid]

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

lol

 

[Hammerage]

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

lol

I could fix that I guess... but nah.

 

[Marc Levin]

Check out this version of the story.

I was floored by the quote "An officer spotted a car he did not recognize parked in the Cincinnati Bengal’s driveway, ran the license plates and discovered the car had been reported stolen by a rental-car company."

They know what cars to expect in his driveway? And if they see a different one in his driveway they routinely check on it? WTF?

I'm about the last person to be a Bungles apologist, but maybe Marvin Lewis was right when he said they've got it in for the players.

Sounds like good police-work to me

Sounds like - where was the cops probably cause for running plates on a parked car in someones driveway with no reported disturbance and case closed because it would all get tossed anyhow.

They don't need probable cause to run plates. They can run your plates if you're in front of them at a stop light. If it's visible from the street, they can run it and it's completely legal and admissable in court.

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

You have no expectation of privacy in something you broadcast to the world - that's why the cops don't need PC to look in your trash.

 

[Hammerage]

They don't need probable cause to run plates. They can run your plates if you're in front of them at a stop light. If it's visible from the street, they can run it and it's completely legal and admissable in court.

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

You have no expectation of privacy in something you broadcast to the world - that's why the cops don't need PC to look in your trash.

I didn't expect that my license plate # would be private it is all the info that it leads to which is NOT public that I would have assumed might be private. i.e. someone may need probable cause to find out where I live, what my unlisted phone number is, what my social is, how many background checks have been done on my and why (employment, goverment contracts and such). Unrestricted access to that kind of info is what I would expect to be private and all of which, at least from what I have read before, can be obtained from running my plates. Not bagging on cops as they are doing an essential service. Just don't know where the line is for secure personal info which has the potential to be missused (and yes not all cops are saints just like every other job in the world) and prudent information gathering.

 

[Marc Levin]

I didn't expect that my license plate # would be private it is all the info that it leads to which is NOT public that I would have assumed might be private. i.e. someone may need probable cause to find out where I live, what my unlisted phone number is, what my social is, how many background checks have been done on my and why (employment, goverment contracts and such). Unrestricted access to that kind of info is what I would expect to be private and all of which, at least from what I have read before, can be obtained from running my plates. Not bagging on cops as they are doing an essential service. Just don't know where the line is for secure personal info which has the potential to be missused (and yes not all cops are saints just like every other job in the world) and prudent information gathering.

you are still 100% wrong. The cops can investigate you in every area bolded above as much as they want w/o probable cause. If a private detective can find that information, a cop can, too.You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what is "private" fopr purposes of criminal investigation - but feel free to ask the question in the FFA and you will get a LOT of responses.

 

[mozzy84]

Check out this version of the story.

I was floored by the quote "An officer spotted a car he did not recognize parked in the Cincinnati Bengal’s driveway, ran the license plates and discovered the car had been reported stolen by a rental-car company."

They know what cars to expect in his driveway? And if they see a different one in his driveway they routinely check on it? WTF?

I'm about the last person to be a Bungles apologist, but maybe Marvin Lewis was right when he said they've got it in for the players.

Sounds like good police-work to me

Sounds like - where was the cops probably cause for running plates on a parked car in someones driveway with no reported disturbance and case closed because it would all get tossed anyhow.

They don't need probable cause to run plates. They can run your plates if you're in front of them at a stop light. If it's visible from the street, they can run it and it's completely legal and admissable in court.

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

yep get a couple dui's and you will be pulled over or followed every time a pig gets behind you.

 

[Da Guru]

Check out this version of the story.

I was floored by the quote "An officer spotted a car he did not recognize parked in the Cincinnati Bengal’s driveway, ran the license plates and discovered the car had been reported stolen by a rental-car company."

They know what cars to expect in his driveway? And if they see a different one in his driveway they routinely check on it? WTF?

I'm about the last person to be a Bungles apologist, but maybe Marvin Lewis was right when he said they've got it in for the players.

Sounds like good police-work to me

Sounds like - where was the cops probably cause for running plates on a parked car in someones driveway with no reported disturbance and case closed because it would all get tossed anyhow.

They don't need probable cause to run plates. They can run your plates if you're in front of them at a stop light. If it's visible from the street, they can run it and it's completely legal and admissable in court.

Good to know. I always sort of figured we had some protection of privacy in that aspect and that the police weren't going around randomly checking our privates. But maybe info from plates isn't private.

yep get a couple dui's and you will be pulled over or followed every time a pig gets behind you.

A guy I know has two DUIs on his record..he gets pulled over all the time when he is driving at night now. They give some BS excuse to see if if is drinking.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Maybe I wasn't clear. Once they suspected something might be amiss, I have less of a problem with them running Texas tags to find out what the story was. The question is why did they think there was an issue in the first place. The part that got my attention was "An officer spotted a car he did not recognize parked in the Cincinnati Bengal’s driveway". It doesn't say he spotted out of state tags. It doesn't say he saw a car that was cheaper than the other cars in this neighborhood. It doesn't say there was any other sort of disturbance that was being checked out. It says he didn't recognize it.

What I infer from that statement is that this officer knows exactly which cars he would recognize as being normal in that driveway. Which to me means they are specifically monitoring there. I don't know about where you live, but I don't see cruisers casing my neighborhood on a very regular basis. Certainly not often enough to notice anytime the mix of cars in the driveways changes. Do they do this for every repeat offender in the county? Or just the ones that will make headlines if the guy does something else wrong?

 

[Hammerage]

I didn't expect that my license plate # would be private it is all the info that it leads to which is NOT public that I would have assumed might be private. i.e. someone may need probable cause to find out where I live, what my unlisted phone number is, what my social is, how many background checks have been done on my and why (employment, goverment contracts and such). Unrestricted access to that kind of info is what I would expect to be private and all of which, at least from what I have read before, can be obtained from running my plates. Not bagging on cops as they are doing an essential service. Just don't know where the line is for secure personal info which has the potential to be missused (and yes not all cops are saints just like every other job in the world) and prudent information gathering.

you are still 100% wrong. The cops can investigate you in every area bolded above as much as they want w/o probable cause. If a private detective can find that information, a cop can, too.You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what is "private" fopr purposes of criminal investigation - but feel free to ask the question in the FFA and you will get a LOT of responses.

Never said I wasn't wrong and glad to be set straight. Thank you. And LOL, I never asked a question, I was commenting.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I think you guys have it all wrong. An officer drives by the mansion of a multimillionaire celbrity who lives in his beat. The Officer likes to give extra surveillance to such homes as they can be magnets for burgleries. He runs the plate on a car to make certain no crimes are in progress. This is all SOP in rich neighborhoods. Were Henry a stand up citizen instead of what he is he would be grateful for the great police protection he is receiving

 

[faulkfan]

I have no information other than the articles posted on this board thusfar, but I thought this point of view might be worth considering.

With the recent home breakins at gunpoint for Eddie Curry and Antoine Walker, maybe authorities have been put on alert to keep better tabs on their celebrity constituents. If the cop would have tracked the car to some dude with a long criminal record (someone other than HEnry who, himself, has an impressive rap sheet) and wnet to door and found Henry tied up getting robbed we'd call him a hero. In this case, because it appears to be a misunderstanding, we question the motives. And above all else, Henry does have a criminal history and for all we know the neighborhood HOA may have asked the police to keep an eye on Henry.

Whatever the case it seems that nothing will come of this story other than some talking points for guys like Jim Rome.

 

[Marc Levin]

I think you guys have it all wrong. An officer drives by the mansion of a multimillionaire celbrity who lives in his beat. The Officer likes to give extra surveillance to such homes as they can be magnets for burgleries. He runs the plate on a car to make certain no crimes are in progress. This is all SOP in rich neighborhoods. Were Henry a stand up citizen instead of what he is he would be grateful for the great police protection he is receiving

I think that is what Christo and I (and one or two others) said.

Christo said "sounds like good police work to me"

And I said something like "burglery in progress down?"

Whatever - I don't blame the cops here for running the out of state plates of a car parked in a celebrity's driveway when the celebrity's car was nowhere in sight. Had Henry not had a miscommunication with the car rental company and had he paid for his rental, this would be a non-issue.

As it stands, it is a minimal issue, at most.

 

[Tom Baker]

You have no expectation of privacy

Fixed.

 

[Marc Levin]

You have no expectation of privacy unless you are locked in a windowless closet with your female wife and you have nothing except a bible with you.

Fixed.

Re-Fixed

 

[Tom Baker]

You have no expectation of privacy unless you are locked in a windowless closet with your female wife and you have nothing except a bible with you.

Fixed.

Re-Fixed

 

[redman]

You have no expectation of privacy unless you are locked in a windowless closet with your female wife and you have nothing except a bible with you.

Fixed.

Re-Fixed

If by "bible" you mean FBG's week 3 subscriber content, then I'm golden!

 

[Christo]

Check out this version of the story.

I was floored by the quote "An officer spotted a car he did not recognize parked in the Cincinnati Bengal’s driveway, ran the license plates and discovered the car had been reported stolen by a rental-car company."

They know what cars to expect in his driveway? And if they see a different one in his driveway they routinely check on it? WTF?

I'm about the last person to be a Bungles apologist, but maybe Marvin Lewis was right when he said they've got it in for the players.

Sounds like good police-work to me

Sounds like - where was the cops probably cause for running plates on a parked car in someones driveway with no reported disturbance and case closed because it would all get tossed anyhow.

What?