Chris Henry (1 Viewer)

[Holy Schneikes]

OK, so the Henry pick is universally thought of in terms of disgust. He's strictly a workout warrior, has no chance in the NFL, etc. I understand where all of that comes from.

But it's almost as if Henry's relatively high draft position is being held against him. If he had gone in the 3rd or 4th to Tennessee I almost think more folks would like him as a propsect. Obviously, he's got ideal size and measurables. Better measurables that any prospect except maybe Peterson.

So he sucked in college huh? Kind of like UDFA Willie Parker (2nd string, something like a 3.8 average)?

My point is not that this guy has stud written all over him. My point is that at least one NFL scouting team thought he was a very good prospect despite his lack of production in college. Maybe they were wrong (has happened before) and all of us expert message boarders are right, but maybe not.

Then I see lists of good situations and don't even see his listed as positive. How could this guy be in a better situation, outside of maybe Green Bay? He's got to get past Lendale White, another 2ND ROUNDER who has know weight issues and character concerns. That's it. If he does that, he'll be playing with a very dynamic playmaker at QB, on a team that seems to be able to produce numbers at the RB position.

Dunno guys, I just might be the guppie who takes a shot on this kid if the price is right. And based on what I've seen on this board over the past couple of days, the price will be right.

 

[Colin Dowling]

1. Henry as he relates to other players ( you cite Willie Parker) is irrelevant to the discussion.

2. I would feel a lot better about it if he were being heralded before his workouts. He wasn't to my knowledge. I didn't read anything ever saying, "Man, it's a shame the Wildcats line stinks because they've got a great running back with nowhere to go."

3. I feel confident that he would have been there in round 3, which is what irks me the most. They could have had Steve Smith and Chris Henry instead of Paul Williams and Chris HEnry. I realize that Paul WIlliams may have more "upside" but the Titans don't need someone with "upside". They need someone who can run routes and catch the ball.

4. If they were going to take a RB that was a project, they should have taken Michael Bush in round 3.

5. I think you are underestimating Lendale White's ability. Yes, I expect this to be a full blown competition and have no idea which guy will emerge with the bulk of the carries (they may even split it evenly). That said, I see no reason to think Henry would necessarily have the upper hand. Toss in that they will have to add another RB before the season...

 

[UCSBgerry]

Chris Henry will perhaps be the most overrated fantasy pick in the last few years. I see Henry as a 1 year stop gap for Tennessee acquiring Turner next year. Secondly, do you people realize in his collegeiate career he had something like 800 yards and 3.26 yards per carry at freaking Arizona. This guy will be terrible. It's sad because he probably gets drafted in a rook draft from 5-9 somewhere.

 

[Colin Dowling]

To be fair....

Fisher, Smith like upside of RB HenryHEAD COACH JEFF FISHER(opening statement)Head coach Jeff Fisher and assistant head coach/running backs coach Sherman Smith discuss the selection of RB Chris Henry in front of reporters at Baptist Sports Park.One of the areas of need for this club was at the running back position. I think that was well noted based upon our attempts to work-out a deal with Michael Turner in San Diego. While all of that was going on we did a lot research and did a lot of work as far as the backs were concerned. We’re very excited about being in a position to draft Chris Henry. We had actually considered and discussed the possibility of taking him in the first round. Only because of what we saw on tape and what Sherman (Smith) saw at his private workout in Tucson and of course the (NFL) combine workout and the interviews.We feel like Chris is an every down back. He can play first-down, second-down and he can also do the things for us on third-down. He’s got excellent hands. He’s a very high character player. He has exceptional speed and good change of direction. He doesn’t have the stats, doesn’t have the numbers at the University of Arizona. We did the research and we’re satisfied why that happened, but we’re confident that he will have the stats and numbers at this level.(on why Henry didn’t have great stats in college)They were rotating backs, they were in and out of offenses. Their offense had gone through a number of changes. There were several other things – Chris missed a class and then was demoted and sat down for a game. There were all kind of things, but not relating to Chris. Chris missed a class and as far as we’re concerned that happens sometimes. They were strict out there based on our research and he worked himself back in the lineup. We had no concerns whatsoever about Chris’ character. (on when he realized that the Michael Turner deal wouldn’t workout)It became obvious to us that they didn’t want to move him because they upped the ante. At one point early in the round they actually wanted more. It became obvious that they weren’t willing to move him. They wanted the insurance knowing that they had a backup to LaDainian Tomlinson this year. I think that was the bottom line.(on if the Chargers wanted more than a first-rounder in 2008)Yes.(on if this pick will put RB LenDale White on notice)No, it’s all about having a two back system. We’re pleased with what Quinton (Ganther) is doing right now. We need the depth. We need to have the opportunity and ability to draw on more than just one running back. LenDale is working the off-season program and with the addition of Chris we feel very good about the position. (on how close the trade came to landing Mike Williams from Detroit)We’ve had discussions that go back several days. We just felt that Mike was a player because of our familiarity with him, from Norm (Chow)’s standpoint, from Fred (Graves), that he would have a chance to come in and help us. But we also felt like we had to draw the line somewhere. There’s a value there. I’m not abreast of what the deal was but we were talking to them throughout, but it seemed like Detroit wanted a little too much. More than we were willing to offer.(on the start of the draft so far)We’re very excited about our first two picks. (Michael) Turner and (Mike) Williams would have been bonuses for us. We will still have more opportunities down the line. Every year these types of scenarios exist. They go on. They take place and there’s behind the scene talks about different type of players. The difference is this year things got out. There were points of interest and they were discussed as possibilities. But we’re very realistic. I mean we go into this process not relying on those things. If they happen then you can do something else. We drafted Chris specifically in the second round for two reasons – one actually, it turns out he was the best player on our board.(on if WR Steve Smith was close)Yes he was very close.(on Henry’s medical redshirt situation at Arizona)It was early in his career if the question comes from a durability standpoint. He is a durable back. He is very strong and explosive. I have no concerns about that.(on balancing the need for a defensive end and wide receiver in the draft)We have got multiply picks. If we identify a guy and the group is thinning out we are certainly prepared to do what we need to do to get the guy we need. (on how draft day has gone)It’s gone well. We said this. We felt like the toughest part of today was going to be from the top of the second round, down to our pick because there are a number of good players that could have helped us. We’re competing with all the other teams so a lot of those players went off the board. We were a little nervous there. I was a little surprised that Cincinnati ended up taking a running back right before us. We didn’t anticipate that. They took a very good running back incidentally in Kenny Irons. Things have gone well for us. Are we disappointed that we couldn’t get the (Michael) Turner and the Mike Williams deal done? We’re not disappointed. There’s a value and a place for that. It didn’t happen so we move on. ASST. HEAD COACH/RUNNING BACKS SHERMAN SMITH(on the significance of Chris Henry not doing anything special to prepare for the combine to boost his attributes)When I went to work the guy out I knew that his personal workout was not equal to what you saw on film, so there has to be a reason why. As Jeff said, we did our homework, talking to the coaching staff there, talking to other people. As I related to the coaches, quite clearly, the kid had the ability; it was the system that kept him from being productive. As we worked him out you could see the power, the explosion, the quickness, and the hands. Man how come you’re not playing? So I talked to the strength coach and the strength coach laid it out real clear. He said this kid put up with a lot the past three years. He kept it together. He worked hard in practice. When he got an opportunity, he did the best he could, but it was a system in which he really had to endure some hardships.(on how he feels about him in blitz pick-up in pass coverage, responding to Chris Henry saying that he feels like he could improve in that area)Well you know it’s interesting that he feels like that’s something that he needs to work on. Maybe he is talking about a technique or a blitz pick-up responsibility. I talked to Chris and he was very knowledgeable about their pass protection scheme and who they had. Watching him in protection, he was physical, so he shows that he is a willing blocker. I think what he is talking about is that he just wants to be a perfectionist at everything he does. He is willing, tough, smart, knows who he has, so, I don’t think that is going to be a problem at all for him in pass protection.(on how Chris Henry differs from LenDale White)I think Chris is definitely faster. I think LenDale definitely has some speed and some quickness, but this guy is explosive also. It’s his physical attributes. I think we are just scratching the surface of what he can be. I know the one thing that really encouraged me about him is his attitude. He reminds me of Eddie George in his approach to the game, in his approach to how he does his work, his desire to be great and also the work ethic behind wanting to be great. He does it; he doesn’t just talk about it. So this is a kid that I just think has a great career ahead of him because he is going to do what it takes and putting the work in is important to him. So I think him and LenDale run styles are different in one sense, but in a lot of areas they are very similar. I think we’ll have a good one, two punch. Like Jeff said, with Quinton, we have some backs and with the guys up front we are going to get it done in the run game and we will protect our quarterback and we will be contributing in the passing game also.(on how LenDale will react to drafting Chris Henry)Like I said, he has to work at it. LenDale knows that, and this is a guy is not going to wait for him. Chris is coming in here as we talked about when I was down in Arizona, he is coming here to start. He is not coming to be a back up. So his mindset is that I’m coming to win the job, and that’s what he’s going to do. And it’s LenDale’s opportunity to win the job also and Quinton’s opportunity.back

 

[Banger]

Is it possible that this guy becomes a player? Maybe but on a team like the Titans with immediate needs you don't take a project with a mid 2nd round pick. Part of drafting is knowing the relative value to other teams and even if you love a guy sometimes you should wait and draft the player rounds later.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

1. Henry as he relates to other players ( you cite Willie Parker) is irrelevant to the discussion.2. I would feel a lot better about it if he were being heralded before his workouts. He wasn't to my knowledge. I didn't read anything ever saying, "Man, it's a shame the Wildcats line stinks because they've got a great running back with nowhere to go."3. I feel confident that he would have been there in round 3, which is what irks me the most. They could have had Steve Smith and Chris Henry instead of Paul Williams and Chris HEnry. I realize that Paul WIlliams may have more "upside" but the Titans don't need someone with "upside". They need someone who can run routes and catch the ball. 4. If they were going to take a RB that was a project, they should have taken Michael Bush in round 3. 5. I think you are underestimating Lendale White's ability. Yes, I expect this to be a full blown competition and have no idea which guy will emerge with the bulk of the carries (they may even split it evenly). That said, I see no reason to think Henry would necessarily have the upper hand. Toss in that they will have to add another RB before the season...

1) Yes, because we NEVER compare players and situations around here. 2) Can't disagree. His workouts were what put him on the map AS FAR AS WE KNOW.3) Maybe. But you are actually demonstrating part of what I am talking about. Maybe he WAS a reach in the 2nd. But the doesn't change anything about HIM and his situation, which as a fantasy guy are all I really care about. People are so bitter about the "reach" that they refuse to acknowledge that a big, fast kid is in an excellent situation.4) See #3. I suspect they were afraid of Bush's health concerns. Henry has none that I am aware of. Plus, they already have a big slow RB, and now they want a big fast RB 5) Sorry, not impressed. I've seen too many guys like him. He's certainly not out of the picture, but based on what we've seen so far, I'd have my fantasy guy in a competition with him than any other "starting" RB in the NFL. Tennessee didn't "reach" for no reason. They perceived a definite need at RB, or they wouldn't have drafted Chis Freakin Henry (check out the subtle sarcasm) in the 2nd round.

 

[Chaos Commish]

To be fair....

Like I said, he has to work at it. LenDale knows that, and this is a guy is not going to wait for him. Chris is coming in here as we talked about when I was down in Arizona, he is coming here to start. He is not coming to be a back up. So his mindset is that I’m coming to win the job, and that’s what he’s going to do. And it’s LenDale’s opportunity to win the job also and Quinton’s opportunity.back

Thanks Colin. That was a heckuva sales pitch for this pick. This last part I quoted may have some meaning. Maybe I am "reaching" on behalf of Fisher who I admire, but could they have done this in round 2 specifically but not solely to motivate LenDale? Of course, they would draft a player they value, but think about LenDale and Reggie. They had a constant competition. It put a little chip LenDales shoulder. Reggie was a workout warrior who pushed LenDale. Maybe Henry has the best psychological makeup to motivate LenDale. He is a workout warrior.BTW, when Henry ran his blazing 40 and everyone here was excited, I mentioned something this article mentions. Henry has very good hands. I'm going to hold off further criticism of this pick.

 

[Chaos Commish]

On the Audible a week and a half before th draft, Gosselin discusses Henry as a second rounder in "matter of fact" terms. I commented to Bloom that it seemed like Goose was leaking information the way he said it.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I WANT the pick to work out. I WANT Chris Henry to be a great running back. I want him to be everything that Lendale and Brown haven't put together long term. The Titans running game is the most important piece of the offense (even including Young) so I WANT someone to come in and pick up where Henry left off.

My problem with the pick is that I think it was too early. I thought the opportunity cost of drafting Henry was too high. I thought he would be there in the 3rd and, failing that, there would be some other similar options.

My issue with the Chris Henry pick is only partially about Henry; it also has to do with Paul Williams vs. Steve SMith.

 

[EBF]

Anything can happen and almost every draft class brings a handful of shockers, but I'll be very surprised if this guy pans out. He was unable to distinguish himself from mediocre competition at Arizona. When he actually got playing time, he didn't dazzle by any means.

The Titans impressed me last year getting Young and White with their first two picks, but it looks like they're back to the Woolfolk/Calico/LaBoy/Odom/Pacman/Roby days of blowing most of their early picks.

The track record of these workout warriors isn't very good. Even a guy like Justin Fargas was a top prep recruit who actually strung together 5-6 really good games as a senior. On the other hand, Henry is nothing but unfulfilled potential. I see no reason to expect him to fulfill it.

Unless there's something we don't know about LenDale White and he's completely gone Charles Rogers on us, I fully expect him to win this job. He's a good back and I really think he can have a big year for the Titans.

If Henry does somehow become the workhorse back, I'd temper my expectations. I suspect we'll look back on this pick in couple years and laugh.

Of course, I'm the same guy who said Frank Gore was a huge reach for the Niners, so I guess anything can happen. I'll admit that much.

 

[Bob Magaw]

its natural to want to see starting RB situation in black & white terms, but with the RBBC being so prevalent, there are more shades of gray...

certainly chow used bush & white to good effect at USC (not that i'm comparing henry to bush)... & it is a copy cat league, & bush was again used very effectively in RBBC by payton in his rookie year...

henry isn't nearly as gifted a runner as bush, but they did have similar speed (despite henry being about 25 lbs heavier... he probably isn't quite as fast at 230)... bush was second in CA state championship with about a 10.5... henry was first with same time... he later ran a 10.7 in college...

they could both see time... if he splits time with white & looks good, this could look like a much better pick later... it could still end up being a non-wasted pick even if he doesn't decisively beat out white...

* how many precedents can we think of where a player had very undistinguished collegiate career, but was drafted relatively high (second round?) as a workout warrior, then went on to blow up as a pro?

trung canidate was drafted more on basis of stellar workout than actual production... maybe addai is example of success story, didn't put up huge production at LSU, didn't start a lot, but flew up board based on workout... is henry really that much different than addai (other then where they landed), or is he more like canidate?

 

[EBF]

its natural to want to see starting RB situation in black & white terms, but with the RBBC being so prevalent, there are more shades of gray...certainly chow used bush & white to good effect at USC (not that i'm comparing henry to bush)... & it is a copy cat league, & bush was again used very effectively in RBBC by payton in his rookie year...henry isn't nearly as gifted a runner as bush, but they did have similar speed (despite henry being about 25 lbs heavier... he probably isn't quite as fast at 230)... bush was second in CA state championship with about a 10.5... henry was first with same time... he later ran a 10.7 in college...they could both see time... if he splits time with white & looks good, this could look like a much better pick later... it could still end up being a non-wasted pick even if he doesn't decisively beat out white...* how many precedents can we think of where a player had very undistinguished collegiate career, but was drafted relatively high (second round?) as a workout warrior, then went on to blow up as a pro?trung canidate was drafted more on basis of stellar workout than actual production... maybe addai is example of success story, didn't put up huge production at LSU, didn't start a lot, but flew up board based on workout... is henry really that much different than addai (other then where they landed), or is he more like canidate?

Henry is closer to Canidate than Addai. Addai had over 2,000 yards rushing at LSU with a YPC average over 5.0.

 

[LHUCKS]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

 

[Jason Wood]

To succeed one needs a combination of Ability and Opportunity.

Henry has opportunity where many more talented rookies will not. Whether he has the ability remains to be seen, but I'm betting there will be far bigger rookie reaches than drafting Henry as a backup in redraft leagues.

 

[John Mamula]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

i have seen quite a bit of henry.he's not good.

 

[EBF]

To succeed one needs a combination of Ability and Opportunity.Henry has opportunity where many more talented rookies will not. Whether he has the ability remains to be seen, but I'm betting there will be far bigger rookie reaches than drafting Henry as a backup in redraft leagues.

I don't think it's a great opportunity. IMO, LenDale White is easily the better back.

 

[LHUCKS]

To succeed one needs a combination of Ability and Opportunity.Henry has opportunity where many more talented rookies will not. Whether he has the ability remains to be seen, but I'm betting there will be far bigger rookie reaches than drafting Henry as a backup in redraft leagues.

I don't think it's a great opportunity. IMO, LenDale White is easily the better back.

If Chris Brown comes back Henry is #3 at best.

 

[Tag]

To succeed one needs a combination of Ability and Opportunity.Henry has opportunity where many more talented rookies will not. Whether he has the ability remains to be seen, but I'm betting there will be far bigger rookie reaches than drafting Henry as a backup in redraft leagues.

I don't think it's a great opportunity. IMO, LenDale White is easily the better back.

Both are 2nd round picks but Lendale has the production in college, I'll go with him. Afterall, he was good enough to keep Bush on the bench half the time.

 

[redman]

When any NFL team analyzes a draft pick, they should basically be asking three questions:

1) How good do we believe this player is (or will be)?

Pretty straight-forward. This is player talent/potential evaluation.

2) How good does the rest of the league think he is?

This gets into the "market value" of the player for the purposes of figuring out where he'll go in the draft if you don't draft him.

3) What are our team needs?

Again, a straight-forward evaluation of how any given player will fit into the team's plans.

The amazing part about this pick is that the Titans appear to certainly have misjudged on the second criteria (market value), probably on the first (talent evaluation) and maybe even on the third given that WR and defense are much greater needs.

It frankly isn't even good enough if Henry turns out to be as good as White. For them to draft him there over other players that either rated better or could have helped them more at positions of need, Henry needs to be better than White. At this point I see absolutely no reason to believe that that's the case, unless White is even more of a disaster than even the greatest pessimists have said he is.

 

[enfuego]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

Tell us about the Oregon game...were you at that one by any chance?

 

[John Mamula]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

Tell us about the Oregon game...were you at that one by any chance?

oregon was ranked 78th in the country against the run allowing 148.62 YPG.that game was the first (and only) time in his career he broke 100 yards.

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i think we call that an aberration.

 

[kensat30]

I think it's obvious that Tennessee coveted Kenny Irons and that Chris Henry was a desperation/fallback pick. They were looking for a certain mold of player to compliment Lendale and they were willing to spend a high pick even on a role player. Forget that the guy is a project at best.

Seems like Young and Lendale fell right into their laps last year due to need, and Tennessee really hasn't shown that they fully understand the basic concept of a value based draft. Was the 2nd hand of a RBBC really so urgent you need to pass up Steve Smith and ultimately settle again in the 3rd round for a lesser talent? If you're going to pass on Smith, at least trade down in the 2nd round, I mean c'mon.

 

[enfuego]

I WANT the pick to work out. I WANT Chris Henry to be a great running back. I want him to be everything that Lendale and Brown haven't put together long term. The Titans running game is the most important piece of the offense (even including Young) so I WANT someone to come in and pick up where Henry left off.

My problem with the pick is that I think it was too early. I thought the opportunity cost of drafting Henry was too high. I thought he would be there in the 3rd and, failing that, there would be some other similar options.

My issue with the Chris Henry pick is only partially about Henry; it also has to do with Paul Williams vs. Steve SMith.

I agree...The Titans considered taking Henry in R1 ....Why R2 & #50? I honestly feel they think the Rams were going to grab him at #52.

 

[enfuego]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

Tell us about the Oregon game...were you at that one by any chance?

oregon was ranked 78th in the country against the run allowing 148.62 YPG.that game was the first (and only) time in his career he broke 100 yards.

link

i think we call that an aberration.

I think we call that a question to LHUCKS...

 

[John Mamula]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

Tell us about the Oregon game...were you at that one by any chance?

oregon was ranked 78th in the country against the run allowing 148.62 YPG.that game was the first (and only) time in his career he broke 100 yards.

link

i think we call that an aberration.

I think we call that a question to LHUCKS...

I think we call that you being

 

[LHUCKS]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

Tell us about the Oregon game...were you at that one by any chance?

oregon was ranked 78th in the country against the run allowing 148.62 YPG.that game was the first (and only) time in his career he broke 100 yards.

link

i think we call that an aberration.

I think we call that a question to LHUCKS...

I think we call that you being

 

[enfuego]

I went to UofA, I watched every UofA game and I attended 3 UofA home games...Chris Henry is not an NFL runningback.

Tell us about the Oregon game...were you at that one by any chance?

oregon was ranked 78th in the country against the run allowing 148.62 YPG.that game was the first (and only) time in his career he broke 100 yards.

link

i think we call that an aberration.

I think we call that a question to LHUCKS...

I think we call that you being

And this from 2 posters on this board...one that claimed last year at this time that Vince Young would amount to dirt (we all know how that worked out) and the other that CURRENTLY claims that Mike Williams is THE new #1 in OAK this year = suspect credibility.

Besides, I only asked if you had seen the game?

 

[EBF]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?

Just curious.

 

[GDogg]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?Just curious.

Is this a poll?If so, I don't.

 

[Jason Wood]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?Just curious.

Was there anyone who thought Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver?Was there anyone who thought Nick Goings could rattle off 100 yard games in Carolina?Was there anyone who thought Willie Parker could succeed in Pittsburgh?C'mon EBF...Chris Jackson may likely be a bust, but the mere fact the team was willing to spend a 2nd rounder on him in a year when RB is a real need means THEY think otherwise. If they're wrong, so be it. But it's illogical to think he won't at least get the chance to win the job.

 

[LHUCKS]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?Just curious.

Was there anyone who thought Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver?Was there anyone who thought Nick Goings could rattle off 100 yard games in Carolina?Was there anyone who thought Willie Parker could succeed in Pittsburgh?

I don't think we're saying it's impossible Wood, I think we're saying it's unlikely.As for Mike Bell, he was much better than Henry ever was...and Chris Henry isn't in Denver.

 

[Jason Wood]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?Just curious.

Was there anyone who thought Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver?Was there anyone who thought Nick Goings could rattle off 100 yard games in Carolina?Was there anyone who thought Willie Parker could succeed in Pittsburgh?

I don't think we're saying it's impossible Wood, I think we're saying it's unlikely.As for Mike Bell, he was much better than Henry ever was...and Chris Henry isn't in Denver.

I agree, to an extent. But it's the end of April; we should all realize that definitive declarations should be few and far between.

 

[EBF]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?Just curious.

Was there anyone who thought Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver?Was there anyone who thought Nick Goings could rattle off 100 yard games in Carolina?Was there anyone who thought Willie Parker could succeed in Pittsburgh?

I don't think we're saying it's impossible Wood, I think we're saying it's unlikely.As for Mike Bell, he was much better than Henry ever was...and Chris Henry isn't in Denver.

I agree, to an extent. But it's the end of April; we should all realize that definitive declarations should be few and far between.

Never said it's impossible for him to pan out. All I'm saying is that you'll be hard-pressed to find many Pac-10 homers who think this guy has more than snowball's chance in Hell of making it. To me, that means something.

 

[Jason Wood]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?Just curious.

Was there anyone who thought Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver?Was there anyone who thought Nick Goings could rattle off 100 yard games in Carolina?Was there anyone who thought Willie Parker could succeed in Pittsburgh?

I don't think we're saying it's impossible Wood, I think we're saying it's unlikely.As for Mike Bell, he was much better than Henry ever was...and Chris Henry isn't in Denver.

I agree, to an extent. But it's the end of April; we should all realize that definitive declarations should be few and far between.

Never said it's impossible for him to pan out. All I'm saying is that you'll be hard-pressed to find many Pac-10 homers who think this guy has more than snowball's chance in Hell of making it. To me, that means something.

Either the Titans are going to make all of us look fooish, or Floyd Reese is going to be sitting in a booth somewhere laughing his ### off.

 

[GDogg]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?Just curious.

Was there anyone who thought Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver?Was there anyone who thought Nick Goings could rattle off 100 yard games in Carolina?Was there anyone who thought Willie Parker could succeed in Pittsburgh?C'mon EBF...Chris Jackson may likely be a bust, but the mere fact the team was willing to spend a 2nd rounder on him in a year when RB is a real need means THEY think otherwise. If they're wrong, so be it. But it's illogical to think he won't at least get the chance to win the job.

I think it's rather appropriate that you called him Chris Jackson. Very telling.Teams that pick players in the first few rounds never think they are picking a bust. But, the reality is that most of the players that are picked in these rounds are going to be very average NFL players, at best. And, most of these guys have much more raw football "talent" than does Henry. Mike Bell was also a much more productive football player in college. He and Henry aren't comparable other than the fact that they both attended the University of Arizona. And, based off how Mike Shanahan rotates RBs, it was far more likely that Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver than it is that Chris Henry will succeed in the NFL.Anyway, it sounds like you pretty much agree that Henry (Jackson) probably won't make it. But, it does run in a straight line really fast, so he's a chance.

 

[enfuego]

Is there a single Pac-10 homer who thinks Chris Henry is going to succeed in the NFL?

Just curious.

Was there anyone who thought Mike Bell would really get carries in Denver?Was there anyone who thought Nick Goings could rattle off 100 yard games in Carolina?

Was there anyone who thought Willie Parker could succeed in Pittsburgh?

I don't think we're saying it's impossible Wood, I think we're saying it's unlikely.As for Mike Bell, he was much better than Henry ever was...and Chris Henry isn't in Denver.

I agree, to an extent. But it's the end of April; we should all realize that definitive declarations should be few and far between.

Never said it's impossible for him to pan out. All I'm saying is that you'll be hard-pressed to find many Pac-10 homers who think this guy has more than snowball's chance in Hell of making it. To me, that means something.

Can I get odds on that?

 

[nygiants56]

Chris Henry will perhaps be the most overrated fantasy pick in the last few years. I see Henry as a 1 year stop gap for Tennessee acquiring Turner next year. Secondly, do you people realize in his collegeiate career he had something like 800 yards and 3.26 yards per carry at freaking Arizona. This guy will be terrible. It's sad because he probably gets drafted in a rook draft from 5-9 somewhere.

has 'bust' written all over him..

 

[DoctorFantasy]

2003 Arizona:

Mike Bell: 168 rush 920 yards 6 TD (5.5 YPC)

Chris Henry: 14 rush 33 yards (2.4 YPC)

2004 Arizona:

Mike Bell: 205 rush 944 yards 5 TD (4.6 YPC)

Chris Henry: 56 rush 159 yards 2 TD (2.8 YPC)

2005 Arizona:

Mike Bell: 200 rush 952 yards 5 TD (4.8 YPC)

Chris Henry: 30 rush 133 yards 0 TD (4.4 YPC)

2006 Arizona:

Mike Bell (played for the Denver Broncos)

Chris Henry: 165 rush 581 yards 7 TD (3.5 YPC)

Reality: I think it is pretty clear to me who the better running back is. Mike Bell was undrafted in 2006. Chris Henry was a 2nd round pick in 2007. I think this was a very weak RB class and Tennessee placed too much value on Chris Henry's 40 Yard Dash at the combine. I also think Tennessee was in a panic when the pending Michael Turner deal fell through. I am not a huge fan of Lendale White. However, I find it hard to believe that Chris Henry will supplant Lendale White in Tenn when he couldn't supplant Mike Bell at Arizona.

 

[Tag]

2003 Arizona:Mike Bell: 168 rush 920 yards 6 TD (5.5 YPC)Chris Henry: 14 rush 33 yards (2.4 YPC)2004 Arizona:Mike Bell: 205 rush 944 yards 5 TD (4.6 YPC)Chris Henry: 56 rush 159 yards 2 TD (2.8 YPC)2005 Arizona: Mike Bell: 200 rush 952 yards 5 TD (4.8 YPC)Chris Henry: 30 rush 133 yards 0 TD (4.4 YPC)2006 Arizona: Mike Bell (played for the Denver Broncos)Chris Henry: 165 rush 581 yards 7 TD (3.5 YPC)Reality: I think it is pretty clear to me who the better running back is. Mike Bell was undrafted in 2006. Chris Henry was a 2nd round pick in 2007. I think this was a very weak RB class and Tennessee placed too much value on Chris Henry's 40 Yard Dash at the combine. I also think Tennessee was in a panic when the pending Michael Turner deal fell through. I am not a huge fan of Lendale White. However, I find it hard to believe that Chris Henry will supplant Lendale White in Tenn when he couldn't supplant Mike Bell at Arizona.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I UNDERSTAND where everyone is coming from, I do.

However, it does crack me up when I hear that Henry is hugely "over-rated". At least in this thread, he's barely "rated" at all.

So, all of you guys that think he is the worst RB ever drafted, tell me:

Where would YOU take him in a rookie draft with "standard" scoring and average roster/lineup requirements?

Seems like most of you think they guy has absolutely zero or near-zero chance to succeed in the NFL, despite an NFL scouting staff approving his selection in the 2nd round of the NFL draft. So my next question is, how did they mess up so bad? What did they see that you didn't?

Why did Rick Gosselin (generally the most accurate draft analyst out there) claim that Henry was the #3 RB on many NFL boards and give the Titans an A for a draft grade? How does everyone here know more than Gosselin AND the Tennessee front office? Based on 6 games started in college?

 

[redman]

2003 Arizona:Mike Bell: 168 rush 920 yards 6 TD (5.5 YPC)Chris Henry: 14 rush 33 yards (2.4 YPC)2004 Arizona:Mike Bell: 205 rush 944 yards 5 TD (4.6 YPC)Chris Henry: 56 rush 159 yards 2 TD (2.8 YPC)2005 Arizona: Mike Bell: 200 rush 952 yards 5 TD (4.8 YPC)Chris Henry: 30 rush 133 yards 0 TD (4.4 YPC)2006 Arizona: Mike Bell (played for the Denver Broncos)Chris Henry: 165 rush 581 yards 7 TD (3.5 YPC)Reality: I think it is pretty clear to me who the better running back is. Mike Bell was undrafted in 2006. Chris Henry was a 2nd round pick in 2007. I think this was a very weak RB class and Tennessee placed too much value on Chris Henry's 40 Yard Dash at the combine. I also think Tennessee was in a panic when the pending Michael Turner deal fell through. I am not a huge fan of Lendale White. However, I find it hard to believe that Chris Henry will supplant Lendale White in Tenn when he couldn't supplant Mike Bell at Arizona.

Ouch.

 

[EBF]

I UNDERSTAND where everyone is coming from, I do.However, it does crack me up when I hear that Henry is hugely "over-rated". At least in this thread, he's barely "rated" at all.So, all of you guys that think he is the worst RB ever drafted, tell me:Where would YOU take him in a rookie draft with "standard" scoring and average roster/lineup requirements?Seems like most of you think they guy has absolutely zero or near-zero chance to succeed in the NFL, despite an NFL scouting staff approving his selection in the 2nd round of the NFL draft. So my next question is, how did they mess up so bad? What did they see that you didn't?Why did Rick Gosselin (generally the most accurate draft analyst out there) claim that Henry was the #3 RB on many NFL boards and give the Titans an A for a draft grade? How does everyone here know more than Gosselin AND the Tennessee front office? Based on 6 games started in college?

The name of this hobby is speculation. Based on what I know and have seen of Henry, I think he's overrated. That's my speculation. I wouldn't take him in the top 15 of any rookie draft.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Has there ever been a rookie RB taken so early in an NFL draft with such minimal success in college?

I think the pick was a big reach due to the RB depth being so poor in this years draft. I don't see how a rb could have been so below average in college and then step in and have immediate if any success in the much more difficult NFL. And at this point the Titans needed a RB to come in and have some success as they are extremely thin at RB.

I don't see Henry getting much playing time at all this year. The Titans could be in for a very long year running the ball this year if White doesen't have much success.

RB's

L. White: big question marks

C. Henry: huge question marks

C. Brown: Is he coming back???

All I see in the Titans RB core is question marks. Not to mention the WR question marks as well.

The Titans have not done much at all to help out Young this off season. There is still a little bit of time and hope but if I were a Titans fan I would be very dissapointed in what has transpired on the offensive side of the ball.

If you had to pencil in a starting line up for a game tomorrow what would the depth chart look like right now on the offensive side of the ball???? It would be beyond ugly and actually with the loss of T. Henry at RB it has actually digressed some.

 

[LHUCKS]

2003 Arizona:Mike Bell: 168 rush 920 yards 6 TD (5.5 YPC)Chris Henry: 14 rush 33 yards (2.4 YPC)2004 Arizona:Mike Bell: 205 rush 944 yards 5 TD (4.6 YPC)Chris Henry: 56 rush 159 yards 2 TD (2.8 YPC)2005 Arizona: Mike Bell: 200 rush 952 yards 5 TD (4.8 YPC)Chris Henry: 30 rush 133 yards 0 TD (4.4 YPC)2006 Arizona: Mike Bell (played for the Denver Broncos)Chris Henry: 165 rush 581 yards 7 TD (3.5 YPC)Reality: I think it is pretty clear to me who the better running back is. Mike Bell was undrafted in 2006. Chris Henry was a 2nd round pick in 2007. I think this was a very weak RB class and Tennessee placed too much value on Chris Henry's 40 Yard Dash at the combine. I also think Tennessee was in a panic when the pending Michael Turner deal fell through. I am not a huge fan of Lendale White. However, I find it hard to believe that Chris Henry will supplant Lendale White in Tenn when he couldn't supplant Mike Bell at Arizona.

I assumed that everyone knew his college stats before having opinions on him.When you average 3.5 in the Pac10...you are not good.The kid didn't even start for his high school team...I'm serious.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I wouldn't draft him before the 4rd round in my IDP leagues, which is all I play in. If he had played at Penn State, Joe Paterno would have made him a linebacker.

 

[enfuego]

Interesting that Bloom puts Henry in his TOP 10...not top 10 RB's...top 10 overall rooks: http://nfldraftguys.com/features/2007_Bloo...nal_Version.php