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Chris Perry Starter prospects? (1 Viewer)

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Marvin Lewis was quoted saying that Chris Perry was playing for a starting spot at running back before adding, "Everybody is gunning for a starting spot."

Coaches don't namecheck like that without purpose. Only Lewis knows if he was speaking the truth or just trying to motivate his backs, but the quote supports two notions we've though about the Bengals: Some form of committee is likely and the Bengals may prefer Perry's upside over Kenny Watson's dependability.

http://rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

He showed speed and power in the team's first preseason game. He looked like the 1st round pick from nearly 5 years ago. He gives that offense another gear at RB, but perhaps lacks the toughness that they used to get from Rudi.

Thoughs?

 
My thoughts are that this is basically the same thing that's been said about Perry since the beginning of time. I've never seen his talent questioned (though it's becoming harder to remember exactly how good he was).

IMO there's better prospects out there for your #5 and worse prospects for your #6. Still worth a spot on deep dynasty rosters (or annually a nice pickup to carry over to next year on your IR).

 
Basically same thing, but says he was #1 tailback in camp Thursday.



Chris Perry ran as the Bengals' No. 1 tailback at Thursday's practice.

Coach Marvin Lewis said that Perry was playing for a starting spot before adding, "Everybody is gunning for a starting spot." However, coaches don't namecheck like that without purpose. Only Lewis knows if he was speaking the truth or just trying to motivate, but these developments support two notions we've though about the Bengals: Some form of committee is likely and the team may prefer Perry's upside over Kenny Watson's dependability.

http://rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

 
It's the same story repeated annually. Perry has starters talent, was drafted in the 1st round for a reason, just can't stay healthy. Because he was a 1st rounder, he'll get a chance to become the starter, but until he becomes reliable, expect lots of Rudi and/or RBBC. Its great to hear Perry is finally on the field and practicing at a high level, however I'd stay away from this mess until someone separates themselves.

 
Asinine said:
It's the same story repeated annually. Perry has starters talent, was drafted in the 1st round for a reason, just can't stay healthy. Because he was a 1st rounder, he'll get a chance to become the starter, but until he becomes reliable, expect lots of Rudi and/or RBBC. Its great to hear Perry is finally on the field and practicing at a high level, however I'd stay away from this mess until someone separates themselves.
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Actually this isn't repeated every year. This is news.And if you wait until this thing sorts itself out it will be too late...I like Perry.. been picking him up late in redrafts a lot.. and this news is encouraging.. I also own him in Dynasty and almost let him go in free agency but my compitition didn't pay enough to take him from me. Thanks guys for letting me keep him.
 
Asinine said:
It's the same story repeated annually. Perry has starters talent, was drafted in the 1st round for a reason, just can't stay healthy. Because he was a 1st rounder, he'll get a chance to become the starter, but until he becomes reliable, expect lots of Rudi and/or RBBC. Its great to hear Perry is finally on the field and practicing at a high level, however I'd stay away from this mess until someone separates themselves.
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When did Perry practice with the first team last year? Rudi was coming off his, what 3rd, great year in a row? Perry did not practice with the 1st team at all last year...
 
Every preseason I've pimped Perry around here. I absolutely love the guy's talent, but I've finally given up on him and his refusal to ever be healthy enough to show that talent.

 
He looked like he had a huge chip on his shoulder against the Packers on MNF and was running hard.

Has he been 100% healthy all offseason?

 
Otis said:
Every preseason I've pimped Perry around here. I absolutely love the guy's talent, but I've finally given up on him and his refusal to ever be healthy enough to show that talent.
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Its always darkest before the dawn. I almost gave up on him in my leagues free agency this offseason too.. but then I realized that Murphy would make me pay for it if I didn't match.. so far so good.:fingerscrossed:
 
The Bengals are trying to find a way to get a little more spark out of their backfield, and Perry could very well be their guy.

I wouldn't rule him out from starting at this point at all.

ETA: They already know what they have to fall back on if need be.

 
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Otis said:
Every preseason I've pimped Perry around here. I absolutely love the guy's talent, but I've finally given up on him and his refusal to ever be healthy enough to show that talent.
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That's about the time I know somebody's going to hit big. Stay the course!
 
For what it costs to acquire him, and the offense he is in, and the lack of competition behind Rudi, I think you could do a lot worse on th end of your bench.

 
I've always liked Perry and think he is worth a great late round flier this year. Hopefully he can stay healthy. That's his only problem. The worst part of if he gets hurt though is that all these Chris Perry posts will be bumped so that the haters can unleash their cackles of Schadenfreude glee. :shrug:

 
massraider said:
For what it costs to acquire him, and the offense he is in, and the lack of competition behind Rudi, I think you could do a lot worse on th end of your bench.
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That about sums it up. Rudi Johnson and Kenny Watson aren't exactly world beaters. I actually didn't think Perry stood out on Monday, but at least he was healthy and running the ball. He's a good guy to grab late in drafts for the upside.
 
I was a huge fan of the kid coming out of college. He really does virtually everything well, and is just sensational out in space. He'd give the running game that explosive dynamic dimension on a consistent basis--a dimension it really hasn't had in a LONG time. Of course, he'd have to stay healthy for 16 games. It's impossible to believe he'll do that at this point, but hey, he's coming for absolutely nothing right now.

 
Very positive news. I, like Otis and Borberly (a few I remember over time who have always been believers too) have been consistantly sticking with Perry's upside and hoping for this chance. This is the absolute perfect back for this system. Marvin won't just hand the job over, but Perry is obviously gaining a lot of confidence in the staff. Very big news. :mellow:

 
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I'd rather have Kenny Watson. CIN will be playing from behind a bunch and Watson is the best receiver of the RBs. Hope for garbage time by the middle of the 3rd Q.

 
Rushmore said:
Routilla said:
I'd rather have Kenny Watson. CIN will be playing from behind a bunch and Watson is the best receiver of the RBs. Hope for garbage time by the middle of the 3rd Q.
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Perry is a better receiver than Watson.
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If there was some game action to base this on I might agree. But Watson seems to be proven in this area. I don't value any of the CIN RBs very much as Rudi and Perry are coming off of injuries and Watson's value is in the passing game.
 
Asinine said:
It's the same story repeated annually. Perry has starters talent, was drafted in the 1st round for a reason, just can't stay healthy. Because he was a 1st rounder, he'll get a chance to become the starter, but until he becomes reliable, expect lots of Rudi and/or RBBC. Its great to hear Perry is finally on the field and practicing at a high level, however I'd stay away from this mess until someone separates themselves.
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Link to the 2007, 2006, and 2005 stories please?
 
Routilla said:
Rushmore said:
Routilla said:
I'd rather have Kenny Watson. CIN will be playing from behind a bunch and Watson is the best receiver of the RBs. Hope for garbage time by the middle of the 3rd Q.
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Perry is a better receiver than Watson.
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If there was some game action to base this on I might agree. But Watson seems to be proven in this area. I don't value any of the CIN RBs very much as Rudi and Perry are coming off of injuries and Watson's value is in the passing game.
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As I recall, Perry was considered the best receiving back in that draft class. Steven Jackson and his 90 catches included. With his time missed, perhaps some skills are unpolished, and not as good as they once were. Watson really was an excellent receiver for the Bengals last year. One might be better, but I wouldn't say it's alot in either direction.
 
Perry is a very talented back. He's never been able to stay healthy and I personally don't think he has much value in fantasy football.

For one, I don't think he can stay healthy long term. But two, I don't think coaches etcllll really trust him. They see what we see, which is a talented football player but they also see what we've seen in the past with this guy, a very big question mark. No way this guy ever gets his own gig, meaning the every down back.

At best, this guy is a leech. He's a good player who will suck carries from guys like a Rudi Johnson until he gets hurt or loses focus. It's possible the guy is a little older and is focuses and is training the proper way but even then, it'll take awhile for him to really get the entire confidence of the coaching staff.

I'm going to pass on Chris Perry, I'll let this guy beat me.

 
Jon_Moore said:
Bri said:
original link?

I'm not finding it at cincy.com
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It came from rotoworld earlier today.The link is to the nfl page, so it's changed as new news has hit.

http://rotoworld.com/content/headlines.aspx?sport=NFL

It should show on there now.

Their source was the Cincy inquirer, but it's reporting an error occured when you click the link.
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yeah I was getting the same errorI can't find it at any of the bengals/cincy newspaper sites

I did see an article that Perry was the only one that did well at RB and they sorely needed that spark but...not the starting stuff

Oh well, thanks for trying Jon

 
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I don't think he's anywhere near as talented as people give him credit for. BUT, he's probably better than what they have.

 
Routilla said:
Rushmore said:
Routilla said:
I'd rather have Kenny Watson. CIN will be playing from behind a bunch and Watson is the best receiver of the RBs. Hope for garbage time by the middle of the 3rd Q.
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Perry is a better receiver than Watson.
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If there was some game action to base this on I might agree. But Watson seems to be proven in this area. I don't value any of the CIN RBs very much as Rudi and Perry are coming off of injuries and Watson's value is in the passing game.
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Perry almost broke Cincy's RB catch record in 05. He has better hands than any of the recievers on the team.
 
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I think this is the link to the original story:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/s...039db87b4&s

Here's the article (written by Cincinnati Bengals Bengals beat writer Mark Curnutte)

GEORGETOWN, Ky. -- At the afternoon practice, the Bengals were in some new personnel alignments on their offensive and defensive first teams. Nothing is official, but this is what I saw.

With the first-team offense, right guard Bobbie Williams was at center with Willie Anderson at right tackle. Stacy Andrews went to right guard. The left side was the same, Levi Jones at tackle and Andrew Whitworth at guard.

Chris Perry worked as the No. 1 tailback, and coach Marvin Lewis said after the Green Bay game that Perry was competing for the starting spot.

Eric Ghiaciuc worked as the center with the second-team line.

On defense, Keith Rivers, Brandon Johnson and Dhani Jones were the first-team trio of starting linebackers. Darryl Blackstock was out.

 
wraith5 said:
Otis said:
Every preseason I've pimped Perry around here. I absolutely love the guy's talent, but I've finally given up on him and his refusal to ever be healthy enough to show that talent.
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That's about the time I know somebody's going to hit big. Stay the course!
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...said the owner of DeShaun Foster, Tatum Bell, Kevan Barlow, David Boston, JJ Arrington, DeAngelo Williams, Cedric Benson, Jerious Norwood, et. al. :shrug: I think, at best, Perry becomes RBBC with Rudi until the Bengals get their "real" next RB. Does he have talent? Abso-freaking-lutely. Does he look great in training camp only to get hurt very soon - you bet.

 
CiscoKid said:
I think this is the link to the original story:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/s...039db87b4&s

Here's the article (written by Cincinnati Bengals Bengals beat writer Mark Curnutte)

GEORGETOWN, Ky. -- At the afternoon practice, the Bengals were in some new personnel alignments on their offensive and defensive first teams. Nothing is official, but this is what I saw.

With the first-team offense, right guard Bobbie Williams was at center with Willie Anderson at right tackle. Stacy Andrews went to right guard. The left side was the same, Levi Jones at tackle and Andrew Whitworth at guard.

Chris Perry worked as the No. 1 tailback, and coach Marvin Lewis said after the Green Bay game that Perry was competing for the starting spot.

Eric Ghiaciuc worked as the center with the second-team line.

On defense, Keith Rivers, Brandon Johnson and Dhani Jones were the first-team trio of starting linebackers. Darryl Blackstock was out.
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Nice work there sir.
 
I may get blasted for making this comparison, but couldn't Perry be in a similar situation/role as rookies Felix Jones and Chris Johnson (granted, with a little more risk), but can be drafted 5-6 rounds later?

 
joffer said:
can someone list the injuries that Perry has had since being drafted?thanks
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I do not have all of that information in front of me. However the most major injury was a seperated ankle. This is the injury that caused him to miss a lot of time and it was bad enough that Bengals staff did wonder if it was career threatening. I think he had a relapse while trying to recover from this injury which shelved him again.I seem to recall a broken bone also.. but those are not at risk of re-injury.So unless I am missing something it is the ankle that is at risk here, and he has had 2 years now to fully recover from that injury.
 
Biabreakable said:
joffer said:
can someone list the injuries that Perry has had since being drafted?thanks
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I do not have all of that information in front of me. However the most major injury was a seperated ankle. This is the injury that caused him to miss a lot of time and it was bad enough that Bengals staff did wonder if it was career threatening. I think he had a relapse while trying to recover from this injury which shelved him again.I seem to recall a broken bone also.. but those are not at risk of re-injury.So unless I am missing something it is the ankle that is at risk here, and he has had 2 years now to fully recover from that injury.
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Right... I think this was a freak injury that took a long time to heal. He was a horse in college. The only other thing I can remember off the top of my head was strained abs his rookie year.
 
Ok, I was curious as well, so here's what I came up with on Perry's injuries. I had a difficult time finding stuff prior to 2005 so I might have missed something, but it should be pretty close. The big injury was 2006 - the details are somewhat sketchy, but it looks like he severely injured his ankle in addition to breaking his leg.

2004 - 2 Sports Hernia injuries, surgery

Dec 2005 - Sprained Ankle

April 2006 - Knee Scoped

June 2006 - Ankle?

Nov 2006 - Broken Leg (fibula), Plates / Screws inserted. (Also had ankle surgery at the same time?)

June 2007 - Ankle (Still recovering the same thing)

Nov 2007 - IR'd for ankle injury (not fully recovered from previous surgery)

Been a long 4 years for the man….

While I was digging up the injury info, there was also a headline back in May (08) that stood out a bit for me. I can't link it because I think it is subscriber material, but the speculation was that the Bengals "passed" on a RB in the draft because the team felt Perry was healthy. I thought it was significant because if that was the case it could be yet another sign about what the Bengals as a team think about Perry and what he can do.

 
Kirby said:
Routilla said:
Rushmore said:
Routilla said:
I'd rather have Kenny Watson. CIN will be playing from behind a bunch and Watson is the best receiver of the RBs. Hope for garbage time by the middle of the 3rd Q.
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Perry is a better receiver than Watson.
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If there was some game action to base this on I might agree. But Watson seems to be proven in this area. I don't value any of the CIN RBs very much as Rudi and Perry are coming off of injuries and Watson's value is in the passing game.
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Perry almost broke Cincy's RB catch record in 05. He has better hands than any of the recievers on the team.
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Perry had 61 rushes that year and 51 receptions in limited duty. He averaged 4.57 YPC and 6.43 YPR and scored to receiving TD's. Not bad...
 
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