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*** Chris Simms thread *** (1 Viewer)
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Big Score
Footballguy
The unfortunate part of that line of reasoning, is that the 49er's HAVE been playing 8 & 9 in the box and teams are STILL running all over them.Last week the Skins pulled their #1 RB (Portis) and played the #2 RB (Betts) then the #3 RB (Cartwright) and the 49er's just bent over and allowed themselves to be cornholed like a fresh faced prison punk by all three.
The only way the Tampa passing game does anything is if Gruden has a brain fart and accidently sends in a passing play or two.
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el-gato-grande
Footballguy
Anybody that starts Simms in his first game out is INSANE. 
The guy hasn't played in a live (non-preseason game) for over a year. And his last performance in a regular season game wasn't all that stellar.Don't get me wrong - I think Simms definately has some upside. I stashed him on my roster after Griese went down. But, I also picked up Rattay because this could go either way.
The guy hasn't played in a live (non-preseason game) for over a year. And his last performance in a regular season game wasn't all that stellar.Don't get me wrong - I think Simms definately has some upside. I stashed him on my roster after Griese went down. But, I also picked up Rattay because this could go either way.Gruden will want to see what he has in Simms at least a bit. He'll be confident in his defense and running game enough that he'll believe they can bail him out if Simms struggles. I expect to see Simms throw more than many believe. I would guess about 200 yds and 1 TD, 1 Int.
Brassmonkey71
Footballguy
I would downgrade all TB WR for this game. Chucky will go with the run in this one.
For what it's worth, these are the Qb's that have played San Fran and this is how they did.(didn't include the ints)Week 1: Bulger 362 yards, 2tdsWeek 2: McNabb 342 yards, 5 tdsWeek 3: Bledsoe 363 yards, 2 tds, 1 td rushWeek 4: McCown (sp?) 385 yards, 2 tdsWeek 5: P. Manning 255 yards, 1 td Week 6: Brunell 252 yards, 3 tdsWeek 7: Simms *** yards, * td(s) ?Hm...I'm thinking about 250 yards maybe 2 td's ?I expect to see alot of Cadallac & Pittman ...as for the #'s for Simms...I'm not sure...Week 5 & 6, San Fran played against 2 good rb's - Edge, PortisWek 7, San Fran faces Cadallac (sp?)So I'm thinking something similar to the last 2 weeks.Week 1, Bulger basically aired it out and no running gameWeek 2, McNabb aired it out, no running game (If I am correct, this was Westbrooks big game?)Week 3, same thing, no running gameWeek 4, same thing, no running gameIs this a trend?Don't get me wrong, San Fran has faced a Pro Bowl QB (either now or in the past) every single week EXCEPT for Week 4, McCown.So I'm not comparing Simms to them, but just stating some stats.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
EXACT same situation here. I will also be starting Pittman in hopes that he'll go off if Simms doesn't.With the injury to Bulger I have no choice but to start him. My other option is Gus F. and he burned me like hell last week.
wharf rat
Footballguy
He played in a "live" game last week...Anybody that starts Simms in his first game out is INSANE.
Don't get me wrong - I think Simms definately has some upside. I stashed him on my roster after Griese went down. But, I also picked up Rattay because this could go either way.
GhostOfAnAlias
Footballguy
I'm already kicking myself for not grabbing him last week, because I'm 8th in the waiver order and I know I won't be able to get him next week. 
NYG Endzone
Footballguy
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
I agree that they won't throw a ton in this game, but not because Gruden lacks confidence in Simms. He trusts him, and he's been around him long enough to "know what he has" in Simms. The fact is, they're playing SF, and it's just going to be really easy to run, run, run. Why WOULDN't you run first, no matter who you had behind center?Simms today (fwiw): 175-225 yds passing, 1td, maybe 2. 1 int. About what you'd expect from a Tb qb against a team like this.
shakeybarn
Footballguy
Although it's his first game out of the gate... this is a perfect scenario for him to perform well. If he fails vs SF, be very wary. My finger is on the the TimRattay-trigger.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
xbox live?He played in a "live" game last week...Anybody that starts Simms in his first game out is INSANE.
Don't get me wrong - I think Simms definately has some upside. I stashed him on my roster after Griese went down. But, I also picked up Rattay because this could go either way.
Mr. Pink
Footballguy
I believe he was referring to Simms 6-10, 69 yards against Miami when he replaced Griese. I'm taking a shot and starting Simms today. His numbers should be fairly pedestrian, about 220-250 yards and 2 scores seem about right to me. Guaranteed his biggest pass play comes off of a screen to Pittman. That's how they succeed in the passing game today.xbox live?He played in a "live" game last week...Anybody that starts Simms in his first game out is INSANE.
Don't get me wrong - I think Simms definately has some upside. I stashed him on my roster after Griese went down. But, I also picked up Rattay because this could go either way.
American Idle
Footballguy
I have also decided to roll the dice and start Simms this week. It's not as if my other option (Holcomb) was terribly enticing.
that guy doesn't belong in the NFL
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Simms was brutal. Lucky/great play by Galloway, or else he gets squat. He is good at taking sacks though..
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Agreed
Gargoylez
Footballguy
Says who? YOU? LMAO!He completed over 60% of his passes, he had a few bad decisions... Tough to play QB with a team that didn't come to play.He wasnt good, but I find it humorous that people think he was HORRIBLE. Turn on the Philly game and see how PRO BOWL McNabb is doing. Yeah... he is having a worse game. and he has TO!
Gargoylez
Footballguy
McNabb missed on his first 12 passes and 7-8 of them were POOR throws.He pretty much tanked the Eagles from the get go and if it wasnt for TO and Westbrook, they would of been completely SUNK. TO+Westbrook does not equal Galloway+Caddy.IGNORANT, trying watching a football game first, and see what color that Kettle is before you post again. Black I presume.
Babu Bhatt
Footballguy
Look, if Chris Simms can't make the 49ers pay when they put 9 men in the box to stop the run, he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL. Period.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
GargoyleSimms BLOWS####
Babu Bhatt
Footballguy
You know, the philly and bucs games were on simultaneously. So you are ripping him for not having watched, when you clearly couldn't have watched both Simms and McNabb at once.IGNORANT, trying watching a football game first, and see what color that Kettle is before you post again. Black I presume.
Awesome come back, about as smart as your original post.
Gargoylez
Footballguy
Yeah Direct TIcket...............................You know, the philly and bucs games were on simultaneously. So you are ripping him for not having watched, when you clearly couldn't have watched both Simms and McNabb at once.IGNORANT, trying watching a football game first, and see what color that Kettle is before you post again. Black I presume.
Its 2005 man, The Dish is sitting on my roof.
Routilla
Footballguy
LOL at the Simms bashers. How many people played the TB DEF this week? NO sacks, NO ints, NO fum recs, NO safeties, NO def TDs. Simms threw for 264 and a long TD(78). Most leagues would award more points for Simms' performance than for the TB DEF performance. If TB had played their typical DEF game then TB would have been in much more rhythm offensively and not been in pass mode the entire 4th Q. 
Tom Collins
Footballguy
I predict a ban on: Gargoylez
Babu Bhatt
Footballguy
First, the 78 yard TD didn't require any skill on Simms part. It was a great play by Galloway.Second, its hard to sack a QB when all he is doing is handing the ball off. The 49ers ran a conservative gameplan. They only completed 8 passes all day. But when your offense gives you NO help against the WORST defense in the league, they are to blame.LOL at the Simms bashers. How many people played the TB DEF this week? NO sacks, NO ints, NO fum recs, NO safeties, NO def TDs. Simms threw for 264 and a long TD(78). Most leagues would award more points for Simms' performance than for the TB DEF performance. If TB had played their typical DEF game then TB would have been in much more rhythm offensively and not been in pass mode the entire 4th Q.
I never said McNabb was great today I just said he was better than Simms, McNabb is injured, he sucked in the game today, does that mean that Chris Simms is a good QB even though he was healthy and didn't play any better than McNabb. Simms wasn't even the best QB on his College team, he is only in the NFL because people want him to be his Father. Thats it. So tell me I am wrong for saying McNabb is still good and Simms sucks.McNabb missed on his first 12 passes and 7-8 of them were POOR throws.He pretty much tanked the Eagles from the get go and if it wasnt for TO and Westbrook, they would of been completely SUNK. TO+Westbrook does not equal Galloway+Caddy.
IGNORANT, trying watching a football game first, and see what color that Kettle is before you post again. Black I presume.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
What the TB defense did had no bearing on Simms production. I'll give him credit for, umm, 3 nice throws. That's it. Galloway caught a 6 yard pass and went 72 more. Simms bounced about 7 throws at the feet of receivers. Worse, he has no pocket presence. Sack after sack after sack after fumble after....
Tom Collins
Footballguy
Extremely obnoxious and provides nothing for this forum.
Duffman007
Footballguy
I actually picked up the SF defense hoping for some decent points. 
Norman Einstein
Footballguy
Was he worse than...Dilfer, Garcia, or Carr?
Babu Bhatt
Footballguy
Yes, yes, and yes.
NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
I watched the game. Forget the stats - Simms played horribly. Allowed himself to get sacked - not because of a dominating defensive pass rush - but because he held onto the ball too long too often. Many, many very poorly thrown balls where the WRs were diving or sliding to get down to the ball. Many passes were "one-hoppers". Ugly. He didn't look like he knew how to move in the pocket, or scramble and slide correctly, or find a passing lane, . . . etc. Many times he was dumping off the pass on 3rd down situations - shows up on the stats as a completion and yards, but not pro-caliber decisions to get 1st downs and continue the drive. I could go on and on. If anyone wants to compare his stats with other QBs who had a bad day - well, good luck with that.
Remember Simms was coming off a bye week to prepare. Ugh. Horrible.
Remember Simms was coming off a bye week to prepare. Ugh. Horrible.
how many Super Bowls and/or NFC Championship games has Simms taken his team to?
Babu Bhatt
Footballguy
He showed no awareness at all. He got sacked to end the game with almost 20 seconds left (it was only 3rd down), he could have gotten his team up to the line and spiked the ball with enough time for a hail mary, but he just lay on the ground feeling sorry for himself.
Routilla
Footballguy
Galloway had 8 for 149 and the TD. That's 7 for 71 w/o the 78 yarder. I don't care if Elmer Fudd is the QB as long as he can get the ball to Joey. Remember this is FF so it doesn't matter if the players are good NFL players only if they are good FF players. I am not saying Simms is a good FF player but he seems to be adequate if you are a Galloway owner.
