Christian Ponder Has Been Named The Starter for Minnesota (1 Viewer)

[dgr81]

@JasonLaCanfora

Vikings are changing QBs. Leslie Frazier has made the change and notified those involved. Christian Ponder takes over as starter

 

[Joe Summer]

Should have happened in Week 1.

 

[mr roboto]

 

[Snotbubbles]

McNabb, time to hang em up.

 

[Raider Nation]

No surprise. The kid has a world of talent.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

From "future Hall of Famer" to nearing out of the league.

Always humorous to hear Philly faithful talk up their QB's talent (McNabb / Kolb). When in the end, they both were mediocre at best. Read one Philly poster hear talk up Kevin Kolb because he was "smart and a hard worker". Congrats? Means nothing when you urinate yourself at the slightest hint of pressure.

 

[snogger]

Hopefully true.. This season is lost..

Time to find out what Ponder has and decide on the QB for 2012.

 

[beaux]

From "future Hall of Famer" to nearing out of the league.

LOL.McNabb isn't even going to sniff the HoF unless he goes there and buys a ticket.

 

[Snotbubbles]

From "future Hall of Famer" to nearing out of the league. Always humorous to hear Philly faithful talk up their QB's talent (McNabb / Kolb). When in the end, they both were mediocre at best.

McNabb was a really good QB. He carried the offense for a few years. But once he lost the ability to scramble effectively, he lost the ability to be effective.Jury is still out on Kolb. Too early to tell how good he will be.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Thank you Jesus.

Now if they'd only cut McNabb...

 

[dontknowaboutme]

Hopefully Harvin can post some decent weeks the rest of the year...not counting on it.

 

[sports_fan]

Hopefully true.. This season is lost.. Time to find out what Ponder has and decide on the QB for 2012.

 

[Stryker]

Good, this is our Super bowl this week, hopefully we can get the upset.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think Ponder's going to surprise (positively).

 

[Raider Nation]

He might rush for more yards every week than any QB not named Vick or Newton.

Oops: Forgot about Tebow.

 

[sports_fan]

Good, this is our Super bowl this week, hopefully we can get the upset.

That would be a massive upset.

 

[Stryker]

Good, this is our Super bowl this week, hopefully we can get the upset.

That would be a massive upset.

*sigh*...yes it would. I can't stand the Packers let alone their fans, the dome Sunday will be 60% Packers fans.

 

[Stryker]

Good, this is our Super bowl this week, hopefully we can get the upset.

That would be a massive upset.

*sigh*...yes it would. I can't stand the Packers let alone their fans, the dome Sunday will be 60% Packers fans.

 

[sports_fan]

He might rush for more yards every week than any QB not named Vick or Newton.Oops: Forgot about Tebow.

Freeman is up there too.

 

[Raider Nation]

Thoughts on what this means for Peterson... good or bad?

 

[sports_fan]

Good, this is our Super bowl this week, hopefully we can get the upset.

That would be a massive upset.

*sigh*...yes it would. I can't stand the Packers let alone their fans, the dome Sunday will be 60% Packers fans.

I'm right there with you. It just doesn't seem possible.

 

[sports_fan]

Thoughts on what this means for Peterson... good or bad?

Good, if anything. Peterson will get his carries regardless and it's not as if McNabb was doing anything to keep defenses honest. I don't see how this could hurt him.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

I didn't watch the game, but 19/24, 177, 0 TD, 0 INT, 97.4 rating doesn't strike me as the problem??

 

[Flying Elvis]

He looked good in limited action. The remaining schedule looks nice for him, for the most part. It can't possibly make things worst for Peterson, since McNabb has looked completely incompetent back there.

 

[Raider Nation]

Time to find out what Ponder has and decide on the QB for 2012.

Hypothetically speaking, if the Vikes somehow finish with the worst record this year, what do you do with Ponder? You almost certainly have to take Luck, but do you keep Ponder around or trade him to the highest bidder? If all else fails, the Raiders will give you 1st-round picks in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for him.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I didn't watch the game, but 19/24, 177, 0 TD, 0 INT, 97.4 rating doesn't strike me as the problem??

It just doesn't tell the whole story. He can't go downfield at all.Really I think they're making the move because they don't want to have to replace the turf again this offseason.

 

[Raider Nation]

I didn't watch the game, but 19/24, 177, 0 TD, 0 INT, 97.4 rating doesn't strike me as the problem??

While that's true, McNabb's "good play" still got them a 1-5 record. He is clearly not the future, so it's time to see if Ponder is.

 

[dgreen]

I didn't watch the game, but 19/24, 177, 0 TD, 0 INT, 97.4 rating doesn't strike me as the problem??

It just doesn't tell the whole story. He can't go downfield at all.

Weird. That's about all he could do in DC last year.

Really I think they're making the move because they don't want to have to replace the turf again this offseason.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Time to find out what Ponder has and decide on the QB for 2012.

Hypothetically speaking, if the Vikes somehow finish with the worst record this year, what do you do with Ponder? You almost certainly have to take Luck, but do you keep Ponder around or trade him to the highest bidder? If all else fails, the Raiders will give you 1st-round picks in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for him.

You don't not take the next Peyton Manning just because you already have Ponder.In a league where many teams don't have one starting caliber QB, having two puts you in the catbird seat.

 

[sports_fan]

Time to find out what Ponder has and decide on the QB for 2012.

Hypothetically speaking, if the Vikes somehow finish with the worst record this year, what do you do with Ponder? You almost certainly have to take Luck, but do you keep Ponder around or trade him to the highest bidder? If all else fails, the Raiders will give you 1st-round picks in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for him.

With average QB play they still have enough talent to win a few games. Ponder would have to play terribly for them to finish with the worst record, and if that's the case they'd have to take Luck. Then keep both.

 

[Raider Nation]

Time to find out what Ponder has and decide on the QB for 2012.

Hypothetically speaking, if the Vikes somehow finish with the worst record this year, what do you do with Ponder? You almost certainly have to take Luck, but do you keep Ponder around or trade him to the highest bidder? If all else fails, the Raiders will give you 1st-round picks in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for him.

With average QB play they still have enough talent to win a few games. Ponder would have to play terribly for them to finish with the worst record, and if that's the case they'd have to take Luck.

Agreed, which is why I said "hypothetically." The Dolphins don't even look remotely interested in winning games.

 

[Wadsworth]

Bump Harvin.

You can thank me later.

 

[Shutout]

I didn't watch the game, but 19/24, 177, 0 TD, 0 INT, 97.4 rating doesn't strike me as the problem??

It just doesn't tell the whole story. He can't go downfield at all.Really I think they're making the move because they don't want to have to replace the turf again this offseason.

Is that the case or is it that they have no legit WRs going downfield? Jenkins and Berrian? I'm not sure drew brees would be loving that either.

 

[solorca]

Bump Harvin. You can thank me later.

I hope you're right.

 

[Joe Summer]

From "future Hall of Famer" to nearing out of the league.

You could say the same about most Hall Of Fame quarterbacks at the end of their careers. Brett Favre didn't look like a future Hall Of Famer in his final season, either.Not that I think McNabb is a Hall Of Famer, mind you. But I think there were times in his career -- after the 2004 season, for example -- when his play justified the HOF speculation.Now he'll end up in the same category as other "future Hall Of Famers" who eventually flamed out and came up short.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I didn't watch the game, but 19/24, 177, 0 TD, 0 INT, 97.4 rating doesn't strike me as the problem??

It just doesn't tell the whole story. He can't go downfield at all.Really I think they're making the move because they don't want to have to replace the turf again this offseason.

Is that the case or is it that they have no legit WRs going downfield? Jenkins and Berrian? I'm not sure drew brees would be loving that either.

Well that's true too. It's hard to put a finger on it. McNabb just looks disinterested and completely awful.

He didn't have overwhelming competitive fire before and he just seems beaten now.

 

[sports_fan]

Time to find out what Ponder has and decide on the QB for 2012.

Hypothetically speaking, if the Vikes somehow finish with the worst record this year, what do you do with Ponder? You almost certainly have to take Luck, but do you keep Ponder around or trade him to the highest bidder? If all else fails, the Raiders will give you 1st-round picks in 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 for him.

With average QB play they still have enough talent to win a few games. Ponder would have to play terribly for them to finish with the worst record, and if that's the case they'd have to take Luck.

Agreed, which is why I said "hypothetically." The Dolphins don't even look remotely interested in winning games.

They'd have to keep both wouldn't they? I don't see how they could get decent value on Ponder if he turns in a bad year.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

They'd have to keep both wouldn't they? I don't see how they could get decent value on Ponder if he turns in a bad year.

If you've got the #1 pick, you shouldn't be worried at all about what you did last year.

 

[Raider Nation]

Bump Harvin.

By default? He can't do much worse.

 

[lynx4ben]

From "future Hall of Famer" to nearing out of the league.

LOL.McNabb isn't even going to sniff the HoF unless he goes there and buys a ticket.

I get so sick of McNabb and HOF comments.

 

[FavreCo]

Bump Harvin. You can thank me later.

I'm going against Harvin this week so I will never thank you. Ever.

 

[sports_fan]

They'd have to keep both wouldn't they? I don't see how they could get decent value on Ponder if he turns in a bad year.

If you've got the #1 pick, you shouldn't be worried at all about what you did last year.

I already said they'd couldn't pass on Luck.

 

[Wadsworth]

Bump Harvin.

By default? He can't do much worse.

Ponder is a big fan of Harvin and has been since the college days. One of the things he was most excited about when drafted by the Vikes was being able to throw to Percy instead of watching him shred his team(Florida State). I expect a significant upgrade in targets and production for Harvin.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

They'd have to keep both wouldn't they? I don't see how they could get decent value on Ponder if he turns in a bad year.

If you've got the #1 pick, you shouldn't be worried at all about what you did last year.

I already said they'd couldn't pass on Luck.

Missed that. I see what you're saying. If you can't get anything of value for him, there's no harm in keeping him around as a great backup if he proves he has talent.Someone would eventually be willing to pony up value for him.

 

[ArcticEdge]

The Packers are scared. Yeah I said it.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

From "future Hall of Famer" to nearing out of the league.

You could say the same about most Hall Of Fame quarterbacks at the end of their careers. Brett Favre didn't look like a future Hall Of Famer in his final season, either.Not that I think McNabb is a Hall Of Famer, mind you. But I think there were times in his career -- after the 2004 season, for example -- when his play justified the HOF speculation.Now he'll end up in the same category as other "future Hall Of Famers" who eventually flamed out and came up short.

JMO Brett Favre and Don McNabb don't belong in the same discussion. Favre was long a HOF before his 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th comebacks.Don had a great 2004 season. But the only HOF on that offense that year was Terrell Owens. For that matter, he was the 3rd best offensive player on that offense (Westbrook).Always thought the guy was a mediocre QB who only 3 times played 16 games that lacked consistency and leadership.

 

[snogger]

Thank you Jesus.Now if they'd only cut McNabb...

Yesterday I joked with a co-worker that they should play Ponder and trade McNabb to the Raiders.Then this morning the trade for Palmer happens

 

[Joe Summer]

From "future Hall of Famer" to nearing out of the league.

You could say the same about most Hall Of Fame quarterbacks at the end of their careers. Brett Favre didn't look like a future Hall Of Famer in his final season, either.Not that I think McNabb is a Hall Of Famer, mind you. But I think there were times in his career -- after the 2004 season, for example -- when his play justified the HOF speculation.

Now he'll end up in the same category as other "future Hall Of Famers" who eventually flamed out and came up short.

JMO Brett Favre and Don McNabb don't belong in the same discussion. Favre was long a HOF before his 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th comebacks.Don had a great 2004 season. But the only HOF on that offense that year was Terrell Owens. For that matter, he was the 3rd best offensive player on that offense (Westbrook).

I'm not disagreeing with this assessment. I'm just saying that McNabb rightfully received the "future Hall Of Famer" treatment after the 2004 season and at various other times during his career. Lots of guys go from "future Hall Of Famer" to "out of the league" within a few years. People are acting like McNabb never deserved that level of praise, when his performance from 2000-2009 says otherwise.

 

[LittlePhatty]

The Packers are scared. Yeah I said it.

Yeah, bump Rodgers. He'll probably throw 9 or 10 TDs this week while trying to play catch-up.

 

[strong]

Thoughts on what this means for Peterson... good or bad?

Good, if anything. Peterson will get his carries regardless and it's not as if McNabb was doing anything to keep defenses honest. I don't see how this could hurt him.

It really can't get any worse than TEN guys in the box. I think overall yardage will improve. I expect they'll run the ball better with Ponder at the helm. He's coming into a very good situation--teams key so much on Peterson that many receivers see single coverage--and he already looks more accurate than McNabb on crosses and slants. But I expect Ponder to turn the ball over more than McNabb did, so scoring may not improve that much.