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CJ Anderson (2 Viewers)

biju said:
This is where we disagree (and that's fine).  Just because someone went undrafted in one draft and another went in the 4th round (which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme as many 4th rounders totally bust) in a different draft means nothing.  Are you telling me a GM would prefer Booker over a young Arian Foster because Booker was graded as draftable and had "a higher grade"?
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No, I'm not telling you a GM would prefer Booker to Foster in hindsight. 

CJ Anderson's skillset is limited and Booker was highly graded...might want to give Booker a chance before writing in CJ Anderson as a workhorse...which he has been unable to prove he can be.

 
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I'd hate to play in a dynasty league where we were only allowed to look at college and draft stats. That's a crappy league Trip. 

 
how many RB's drafted last year were touted as better than the RB they were behind in training camp and actually caught and rose above them during the season (not due to injury, just outperforming)

anyone know?  can't be many

Booker could be the exception - I doubt it

 
Stealthycat said:
how many RB's drafted last year were touted as better than the RB they were behind in training camp and actually caught and rose above them during the season (not due to injury, just outperforming)

anyone know?  can't be many
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Depends in large part on how you define being "behind in training camp."  Offhand though:

Abdullah outperformed Bell

David Johnson outperformed Chris Johnson (even if it took an injury to cement his status)

Duke Johnson didn't exactly outperform Crowell, but he was certainly in the same ballpark

Yeldon outperformed the field, albeit a rather weak one

I'm not even considering Gurley and Gordon, who were pretty much drafted to start.  But that's a decent number of the higher-drafted backs.  And Coleman had a chance to add his name to the list if not for an injury.

 
Arodin said:
Depends in large part on how you define being "behind in training camp."  Offhand though:

Abdullah outperformed Bell

David Johnson outperformed Chris Johnson (even if it took an injury to cement his status)

Duke Johnson didn't exactly outperform Crowell, but he was certainly in the same ballpark

Yeldon outperformed the field, albeit a rather weak one

I'm not even considering Gurley and Gordon, who were pretty much drafted to start.  But that's a decent number of the higher-drafted backs.  And Coleman had a chance to add his name to the list if not for an injury.
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Here's the thing... Bell sucked, Crowell was competing with West and didn't win that competition too clearly, Yeldon didn't have competition, David Johnson was suppose to beat Ellington and Chris Johnson who didn't get contract until David got injured. With Anderson I think it's a whole different story, non of those last years news shocked me as a fantasy player.

 
TripItUp said:
well, pretty much every GM had Booker rated higher than Anderson...and Booker has a more well rounded skillset to boot.
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Pretty much every other GM was home watching CJ Anderson perform well as the feature #1 RB on the Super Bowl winning team last year.

CJ is the #1 RB in a Gary Kubiak offense and he just signed a large contract a few months ago after another GM tried to sign him to be their feature #1 RB.  

He is heading into camp as the top back, he is healthy and reportedly is in the best shape of his career.

I think he will start, play well, and post solid numbers.

 
TripItUp said:
that's one way of describing it...
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CJ Anderson was the #1 RB on the Super Bowl winning team and in three post-season games, including the Super Bowl, he rushed 54 times for 254 yards with 2 rushing TDs.  He performed well, he was the #1 RB, his team won every one of those games, and pretty much every other NFL GM who didn't take him was home watching unless they were at the game.   That happened.  

It doesn't matter if someone rewrites history the events happened as they did.  You either participate like CJ did or witness it but you're funny.  You think we didn't see what happened or that Miami and Chicago pursued CJ and the Elway signed him to a big contract and that he's healthy and in great shape and is the #1 RB in Kubiak's offense and primed to have a good year.

 
Bracie Smathers said:
Pretty much every other GM was home watching CJ Anderson perform well as the feature #1 RB on the Super Bowl winning team last year.

CJ is the #1 RB in a Gary Kubiak offense and he just signed a large contract a few months ago after another GM tried to sign him to be their feature #1 RB.  

He is heading into camp as the top back, he is healthy and reportedly is in the best shape of his career.

I think he will start, play well, and post solid numbers.
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Just to add to your point, TWO different GMs tried to sign him to be their feature back: Chicago offered him $19M/4yr and Miami actually did sign him to $18M/4yr.

 
Cecil Lammey ‏@CecilLammey  17h17 hours ago
going through my Day 6 #BroncosCamp notebook...if you have any questions, just let me know! @1043TheFan

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@CecilLammey @1043TheFan do you think the offense will pass or run more this year
Cecil Lammey ‏@CecilLammey  17h17 hours ago
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They'll be 1 of the most run-heavy teams in the league. Feeds amazing #Broncos D & keeps ball out of shaky QBs hands

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It was speculated the Broncos would be more run-heavy this year without Peyton and with the dominant defense coupled with switching to Kubiak's offense.but the QBs have not looked great in Broncos camp.

The Broncos will emphasize the running game this year and CJ will see the bulk of the carries as long as he's healthy IMHO.

 
He looked great tonight.  I'm a dummy for benching him as I started David Johnson and Ware over him this week.  The Carolina D scared me a bit--but I'll be starting him from now on.   I agree with the above poster that he could be one of the steals of fantasy drafts if he can stay healthy.  

 
Great start.  3 down back, did everything well.  Was almost perfect with decision making cutting back hitting the hole.  Excellent in passing game and in pass protection.  Very happy to get him as my RB2.

 
Penguin said:
The Booker fumble on his first carry was nice as well, Devonte only got two touches the rest of the game.
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I don't think CJ owners really want him getting 26-30 touches a game. No way he holds up. If Booker can be solid for 8-10, that helps CJA out big time in my opinion. Ive seen many rbs start there owners 4-0 start only to break down. CJA was barely picking himself up off the ground the whole second half yesterday. Granted, that was a physical ### game but noone is going to be scared of any downfield throws vs Denver all year so he's going to face stacked boxes. Any help he can get to stay fresh for 16 would be nice. 

 
Skoo said:
When you go WR-WR-WR for the first time ever and land CJA in the 4th round.....

:pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle: :pickle:
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I was at the ends of every draft, and had him as a target for each one, but didn't get him in any.  Seems like my leagues went a little RB heavier this year and he seemed to be taken in the 3rd right before me.  Looked good last night.

 
Can't wait for the "What trade offers are you getting for CJA?" Or, "I need to upgrade my WRs, who should I ask for CJA?" 

Yeah, can't wait for those threads. 

 
Screws me last year, this year I avoid him like the plague, and then he looks great in Week 1 with a QB who has never thrown an NFL pass until last night.

Figures.

 
packer_junkie said:
I don't think CJ owners really want him getting 26-30 touches a game. No way he holds up. If Booker can be solid for 8-10, that helps CJA out big time in my opinion. Ive seen many rbs start there owners 4-0 start only to break down. CJA was barely picking himself up off the ground the whole second half yesterday. Granted, that was a physical ### game but noone is going to be scared of any downfield throws vs Denver all year so he's going to face stacked boxes. Any help he can get to stay fresh for 16 would be nice. 
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I don't think tonight will be their typical game plan going forward. You had a brand new rookie'ish type QB going up against a nasty defense. I believe it was a ball control/defense centric game plan. As Siemien gets more comfortable I could see them opening things up more. Heck, on the opening drive I believe the first 5 plays were all passes. 

He played decent, not much more. One of the interceptions was a terrible throw off his back foot intended for Sanders and it just hung up there for the Corner to pluck it. 

Booker's fumble on his first carry hurt as well. Denver pretty much marched dow the field and Devonte coughs it up on the 12 yd line on his first carry. In the end, maybe it helped Denver as Booker only saw 2 more touches the rest of the game and CJ kicked a little ### down the stretch.

 
C-Bound said:
How about when you go WR-WR-WR-WR and then CJ in the 5th!  KaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaBOOM!
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I wish I played in a league with CJ Anderson in the 5th round

I wanted him, took 3.06 in 12 team standard. He would not have made it to the 4th.

And agree with the above, I'd like to see Booker get closer to that 8-10 carries in games where they run it that much.

 
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Dan Lambskin said:
I bench him for Spencer Ware :kicksrock:
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Don't kick yourself too hard--I did the same thing.  The funny thing is that I'm a firm believer in playing your studs too. However--for me--I had a decision to make--I needed to start 2 of the following: David Johnson, CJ Anderson, Jeremy Hill, Gio, Spencer Ware.  David Johnson was a must for me even with a tough matchup--so essentially I was between Hill, Ware and CJ. I liked CJ's and Hills matchups the least--so I went with Ware.   Two things I learned after last night.  I vastly over rated Carolina's run D--and even though I drafted CJ as a RB3--I now need to look at him like a low end RB1-high end RB2.    I'm certain benching him will be one of many mistakes that I make this season. 

 
packer_junkie said:
I don't think CJ owners really want him getting 26-30 touches a game. No way he holds up. If Booker can be solid for 8-10, that helps CJA out big time in my opinion. Ive seen many rbs start there owners 4-0 start only to break down. CJA was barely picking himself up off the ground the whole second half yesterday. Granted, that was a physical ### game but noone is going to be scared of any downfield throws vs Denver all year so he's going to face stacked boxes. Any help he can get to stay fresh for 16 would be nice. 
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I personally want all my RB's to get 26-30 carries a game.  That's why the high drafted RB's are such.  That being said I think last night is going to be pretty typical work load for CJ this year, 18-22 carries and 2-4 receptions.  Unlikely he gets 2 TDs every week.  But I'll take it every week till he breaks down.

 
C-Bound said:
How about when you go WR-WR-WR-WR and then CJ in the 5th!  KaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaBOOM!
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This is what happens when you take a strategy as religion. This year the "zero RB strategy" is all the rage. When people pursue a strategy, any strategy, and ignore value, they do so at their own peril. I expect next year people will temper their enthusiasm for this strategy, and we will a more balanced approach to drafts. Particularly when you consider the infusion of young talent at the RB position next year. Consider the league already has Gurley, Zeke, now add in Chubb, Fournette, McCaffery, to name a few, and I expect the enthusiasm for this strategy will die down. 

 
In redraft I kept moving Anderson up my rankings but probably still had some bias after being burned on him last year and did not get him on any of my teams.  In one league I did float a post draft trade offering Peterson for CJA and a WR but it never really went anywhere.  In another I have a feeling I will regret passing on him for McCoy but we'll see.

Bottom line though is that those of us who were high on him last year just missed the mark.  Things set up much better for him this year with Kubiak's system now being fully employed post-Peyton.  And perhaps more importantly, he's healthy (turf toe notoriously lingers), reportedly came into camp lighter and in better shape, and looks like the RB many of us were expecting when we invested a lot in him last season.  And Denver's offensive line has also been rebuilt and looked much better than last season.

Life, and FF, are often about timing.  This season looks like a great time to own CJA.  I'm predicting a top 5 finish, with #1 overall potential.  Maybe premature based off week 1 but a lot of the things many of us thought we liked about CJA last year are now coming to fruition this season.

 
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Leonidas said:
I wish I played in a league with CJ Anderson in the 5th round

I wanted him, took 3.06 in 12 team standard. He would not have made it to the 4th.

And agree with the above, I'd like to see Booker get closer to that 8-10 carries in games where they run it that much.
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I got him in the fourth round of a ten-teamer. Never thought he'd fall to me.  Obviously thrilled that he did and even moreso now.

 
Bracie Smathers said:
Pretty much every other GM was home watching CJ Anderson perform well as the feature #1 RB on the Super Bowl winning team last year.

CJ is the #1 RB in a Gary Kubiak offense and he just signed a large contract a few months ago after another GM tried to sign him to be their feature #1 RB.  

He is heading into camp as the top back, he is healthy and reportedly is in the best shape of his career.

I think he will start, play well, and post solid numbers.
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Week 1... give credit where credit is due   :goodposting:

 
I give a lot of weight to what the guy had done up to the point where he got hurt early last year and then after he got healthy heading into last year's playoffs.

I thought people got too emotionally wrapped up into his early-season struggles due to having an injury and didn't give him enough credit as to what he did after he was healthy.

Mike Clay ‏@MikeClayNFL  14h14 hours ago
Nice stat there by NBC. Anderson the only RB to average at least 4.5 YPC each of the past 2 years.
Some in the fantasy crowd hold grudges and last year CJ was a disappointment to anyone who took him high based off his 2014 season yet he was injured early last year AND then got healthy and produced solid numbers especially in the post-season where yards are tougher to get.  Kubiak's system is very RB-friendly.  Anyone holding a grudge would shift any upside to the rookie and try to supplant CJ but Booker struggled.

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Cecil Lammey ‏@CecilLammey  15h15 hours ago

Devontae Booker's preseason was disappointing (2.9 YPC), fumble a bad way to start things off #Broncos - just feed CJA!

EDIT:  Oh and I had CJ on my bench but my starters are Adrian Peterson and David Johnson so I'll play it by ear for awhile.  Great start for CJ.

 
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need2know said:
Car run def looked soft.  Will be interesting to see if cj can keep it up
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perhaps, but CJA looked sharp last night.  very quick and decisive with his cuts.  i was asking myself last night how as this guy an UDFA running like this?  he looked like he was moving twice as fast as booker was out there.

 
Bracie Smathers said:
I give a lot of weight to what the guy had done up to the point where he got hurt early last year and then after he got healthy heading into last year's playoffs.

I thought people got too emotionally wrapped up into his early-season struggles due to having an injury and didn't give him enough credit as to what he did after he was healthy.

Mike Clay ‏@MikeClayNFL  14h14 hours ago
Nice stat there by NBC. Anderson the only RB to average at least 4.5 YPC each of the past 2 years.
Some in the fantasy crowd hold grudges and last year CJ was a disappointment to anyone who took him high based off his 2014 season yet he was injured early last year AND then got healthy and produced solid numbers especially in the post-season where yards are tougher to get.  Kubiak's system is very RB-friendly.  Anyone holding a grudge would shift any upside to the rookie and try to supplant CJ but Booker struggled.

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Cecil Lammey ‏@CecilLammey  15h15 hours ago

Devontae Booker's preseason was disappointing (2.9 YPC), fumble a bad way to start things off #Broncos - just feed CJA!

EDIT:  Oh and I had CJ on my bench but my starters are Adrian Peterson and David Johnson so I'll play it by ear for awhile.  Great start for CJ.
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That stat is not correct or is incomplete.

L. Miller - 4.5/5.1
L. Bell - 4.9/4.7
J. Charles - 5.1/5.0
R. Mathews - 5.0/4.5

 
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iamkoza said:
perhaps, but CJA looked sharp last night.  very quick and decisive with his cuts.  i was asking myself last night how as this guy an UDFA running like this?  he looked like he was moving twice as fast as booker was out there.
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He looked good.  He also took some monster shots.  A little surprised he didn't get dinged

 
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