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It's impossible to know where to pick rookies in dynasty drafts until they get drafted. That being said, I'm going to start compiling initial scouting reports on some of the best rookies for my own benefit. Hopefully some of you can find it useful, can add your thoughts..and if not...then my league mates will know all my deepest, darkest thoughts on the upcoming rookie class. 
CJ Spiller is very exciting and VERY fast. Watching his replays, you can see that he is explosive in many different ways. He can run the ball, catch the ball, return kicks...basically do it all.
I'll compare him to two people in this article: Chris Johnson (because everyone else is doing it) and Reggie Bush (because that's who he reminds me of). However he differs from both in a number of ways.
First of all, he has the same overall body size as those two. He's listed as 5'11 195. To me, he seems shorter than 5'11. I'll be interested to see what he measures at the combine. From a body standpoint, he seems thicker to me than Chris Johnson in the legs. I get the sense that I'm watching a guy that is 5'10 max, but he runs low, so that's probably the reason.
As far as his speed goes, he's not in Chris Johnson's realm. (who is?) In watching his highlights, there are a number of times where I think to myself "CJ would have scored there". CJ has angles that he breaks where you're like "no way he's going to break that" and than he does. It's almost other-worldly.
The good news for Spiller is that he still has top-end speed and will benefit greatly from CJ's success in terms of where he's drafted.
I do see a few problems for Spiller though. One is that his production isn't anything amazing in college. He was a part-time player until this year, and his ypc isn't anything out of this world. Therefore, there will be legitimate questions as to whether Spiller can take the full load as an NFL RB. There will also be questions as to how well he'll do if he goes to a team with an average OL. There were many games where his ypc was in the 4's, which isn't anything special in college. Especially for a guy that is a home run hitter. What that means is that he has alot of plays where he goes for very small gains. Noel Devine has a ypc over 6 (with more carries), which is more of what you expect from a home run hitter in college.
Looking at highlights on youtube can greatly influence your perception of a player in the wrong way. I can put together a reel of some pretty amazing Reggie Bush highlights IN THE NFL. If that's all a person saw of Bush, they'd be convinced he was a hall of famer.
The problem is that some of these guys that are great in space, just don't get "in space" very often. Therefore, there are only a few times a game where they really shine. The rest of the time they are kind of bottled up.
Chris Johnson is unique in that he never stops churning the legs and his cuts are made at full speed...Spiller (like Bush) makes jaw-dropping cuts and jukes that seem at times more impressive than CJ's. But CJ isn't slowing down to make them, he's cutting on the fly at full speed.
So anyone hoping to get the next Chris Johnson will be disappointed with CJ Spiller.
That being said, what can we expect from Spiller?
I think much will depend on the team he goes to. With a great O-Line that is able to create holes, Spiller could be a dynamic player who gets 15 carries a game and catches 4-5 balls a game. If Spiller avoids the tendency to bounce things outside and always look for the big play, he could be really good, and could potentially be a great RB1 in ppr leagues, and a solid RB2 in regular leagues.
But if he goes to a team with an average line, and starts looking to break everything to the outside, he could easily have a career that is very similar to Bush. A guy with great speed, great moves...a guy that always gets on the highlight reels and who is exciting...but not a fantasy superstar.
My current prediction is that he'll be a little bit better than Bush, in large part because I think he's faster than Reggie. When Bush got the ball alot, he was pretty good in PPR leagues. Spiller will be no different and I truly think that Reggie Bush is a worst case scenario for Spiller, which isn't too bad of a risk, especially in PPR leagues.
CJ Spiller is very exciting and VERY fast. Watching his replays, you can see that he is explosive in many different ways. He can run the ball, catch the ball, return kicks...basically do it all.
I'll compare him to two people in this article: Chris Johnson (because everyone else is doing it) and Reggie Bush (because that's who he reminds me of). However he differs from both in a number of ways.
First of all, he has the same overall body size as those two. He's listed as 5'11 195. To me, he seems shorter than 5'11. I'll be interested to see what he measures at the combine. From a body standpoint, he seems thicker to me than Chris Johnson in the legs. I get the sense that I'm watching a guy that is 5'10 max, but he runs low, so that's probably the reason.
As far as his speed goes, he's not in Chris Johnson's realm. (who is?) In watching his highlights, there are a number of times where I think to myself "CJ would have scored there". CJ has angles that he breaks where you're like "no way he's going to break that" and than he does. It's almost other-worldly.
The good news for Spiller is that he still has top-end speed and will benefit greatly from CJ's success in terms of where he's drafted.
I do see a few problems for Spiller though. One is that his production isn't anything amazing in college. He was a part-time player until this year, and his ypc isn't anything out of this world. Therefore, there will be legitimate questions as to whether Spiller can take the full load as an NFL RB. There will also be questions as to how well he'll do if he goes to a team with an average OL. There were many games where his ypc was in the 4's, which isn't anything special in college. Especially for a guy that is a home run hitter. What that means is that he has alot of plays where he goes for very small gains. Noel Devine has a ypc over 6 (with more carries), which is more of what you expect from a home run hitter in college.
Looking at highlights on youtube can greatly influence your perception of a player in the wrong way. I can put together a reel of some pretty amazing Reggie Bush highlights IN THE NFL. If that's all a person saw of Bush, they'd be convinced he was a hall of famer.
The problem is that some of these guys that are great in space, just don't get "in space" very often. Therefore, there are only a few times a game where they really shine. The rest of the time they are kind of bottled up.
Chris Johnson is unique in that he never stops churning the legs and his cuts are made at full speed...Spiller (like Bush) makes jaw-dropping cuts and jukes that seem at times more impressive than CJ's. But CJ isn't slowing down to make them, he's cutting on the fly at full speed.
So anyone hoping to get the next Chris Johnson will be disappointed with CJ Spiller.
That being said, what can we expect from Spiller?
I think much will depend on the team he goes to. With a great O-Line that is able to create holes, Spiller could be a dynamic player who gets 15 carries a game and catches 4-5 balls a game. If Spiller avoids the tendency to bounce things outside and always look for the big play, he could be really good, and could potentially be a great RB1 in ppr leagues, and a solid RB2 in regular leagues.
But if he goes to a team with an average line, and starts looking to break everything to the outside, he could easily have a career that is very similar to Bush. A guy with great speed, great moves...a guy that always gets on the highlight reels and who is exciting...but not a fantasy superstar.
My current prediction is that he'll be a little bit better than Bush, in large part because I think he's faster than Reggie. When Bush got the ball alot, he was pretty good in PPR leagues. Spiller will be no different and I truly think that Reggie Bush is a worst case scenario for Spiller, which isn't too bad of a risk, especially in PPR leagues.
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CJ Spiller is very exciting and VERY fast. Watching his replays, you can see that he is explosive in many different ways. He can run the ball, catch the ball, return kicks...basically do it all.I'll compare him to two people in this article: Chris Johnson (because everyone else is doing it) and Reggie Bush (because that's who he reminds me of). However he differs from both in a number of ways.First of all, he has the same overall body size as those two. He's listed as 5'11 195. To me, he seems shorter than 5'11. I'll be interested to see what he measures at the combine. From a body standpoint, he seems thicker to me than Chris Johnson in the legs. I get the sense that I'm watching a guy that is 5'10 max, but he runs low, so that's probably the reason.As far as his speed goes, he's not in Chris Johnson's realm. (who is?) In watching his highlights, there are a number of times where I think to myself "CJ would have scored there". CJ has angles that he breaks where you're like "no way he's going to break that" and than he does. It's almost other-worldly.The good news for Spiller is that he still has top-end speed and will benefit greatly from CJ's success in terms of where he's drafted.I do see a few problems for Spiller though. One is that his production isn't anything amazing in college. He was a part-time player until this year, and his ypc isn't anything out of this world. Therefore, there will be legitimate questions as to whether Spiller can take the full load as an NFL RB. There will also be questions as to how well he'll do if he goes to a team with an average OL. There were many games where his ypc was in the 4's, which isn't anything special in college. Especially for a guy that is a home run hitter. What that means is that he has alot of plays where he goes for very small gains. Noel Devine has a ypc over 6 (with more carries), which is more of what you expect from a home run hitter in college. Looking at highlights on youtube can greatly influence your perception of a player in the wrong way. I can put together a reel of some pretty amazing Reggie Bush highlights IN THE NFL. If that's all a person saw of Bush, they'd be convinced he was a hall of famer. The problem is that some of these guys that are great in space, just don't get "in space" very often. Therefore, there are only a few times a game where they really shine. The rest of the time they are kind of bottled up.Chris Johnson is unique in that he never stops churning the legs and his cuts are made at full speed...Spiller (like Bush) makes jaw-dropping cuts and jukes that seem at times more impressive than CJ's. But CJ isn't slowing down to make them, he's cutting on the fly at full speed.So anyone hoping to get the next Chris Johnson will be disappointed with CJ Spiller.That being said, what can we expect from Spiller?I think much will depend on the team he goes to. With a great O-Line that is able to create holes, Spiller could be a dynamic player who gets 15 carries a game and catches 4-5 balls a game. If Spiller avoids the tendency to bounce things outside and always look for the big play, he could be really good, and could potentially be a great RB1 in ppr leagues, and a solid RB2 in regular leagues.But if he goes to a team with an average line, and starts looking to break everything to the outside, he could easily have a career that is very similar to Bush. A guy with great speed, great moves...a guy that always gets on the highlight reels and who is exciting...but not a fantasy superstar.My current prediction is that he'll be a little bit better than Bush, in large part because I think he's faster than Reggie. When Bush got the ball alot, he was pretty good in PPR leagues. Spiller will be no different and I truly think that Reggie Bush is a worst case scenario for Spiller, which isn't too bad of a risk, especially in PPR leagues.
. Nearly ever mock draft or ranking I've recently seen has Spiller as the #1 or #2 back. I've seen some that don't even have Dwyer in the top 10.But like I said to each his own, I'm not trying to convince anyone of whom they should or should not pick. I'm just saying they have yet to go to the combine, draft or even spring training and many have already said they will not touch him to the point of nearly calling him a failure or disappointment especially considering how early it is in the War we call Fantasy Football....is comical at best.:twocents:Tex
I didn't see this when I made my last post. By the way, to the other posters let the record show that I'm NOT comparing him to CJ3 and most certainly NOT comparing him to Bush, LOL!
LOL, you guys convince yourself he won't make an impact at the NFL level but I'm not interested in buying your wolf tickets. 
at this point its very subjective, hard to make an arguement one way or another.
) the reason being, he seems to be the safest bet to succeed. 
at this point its very subjective, hard to make an arguement one way or another.
